Tyre Wear

[KkillgasmM]

Does anyone have a problem with it in some races?

I always do in endurace races, i find myself racing ahead of the other racers but needing to replace my tyres much more often than them, even when im using harder ones.

It's as if i have to use a ridiculously faster car than the rest just to be able to win!

I can go in a car thats around the same level and be winning until i need to keep changing my tyres.

Does anyone else find this or know a way to get around it?

 

[Ev0 4 drifter]

use really hard tyres.

 

[Hypnotoad]

Never had this problem, cept when on mediums.

My advice, which could be wrong... Is;

Don't bother with turbo 4, turn asm off, put enough TCS on to stop the wheels spinning too much without hindering your driving style and apart from that... I dunno.

Alternatively, use the Pescarolo or Mazda 787B, they apparently have the best tire life.

 

[DeSwyft]

use really hard tyres.

See now, the thread starter stated that his tires wear out easily. Now, use Super Hard tires isn't recommended simply because those tires have pretty much no grip. What ends up happening is more screwes up and more wheelspin so it'll not perform as you thought it would. Some cars have Enudurance over Short Performances. Refer to Pescarolo and Audi R8 versus Minolta 88C-V and R92CP. Most european cars have Endurance performance over Short Performance. So if your endurances are REALLY long, then try a Playstation pescarolo for only 4,500,000 Cr(NTSC).

 

[Der Alta]

The other key to tire wear is sound. Yes, sound. Turn up the volume and listen to your tires. What you'll learn is that sound can be a key item to lap times. You may be turning ridiculous lap times, but at the cost of your grip. Slow down just a bit and improve your lines. The less your tires squeal, the cleaner your lines are. Eventually, you'll learn braking points based on tire squeal and smoother lines. These two pieces will add into better lap times.

Better lap times = more consitency in your racing, and better predictions of what cars/mods you can use to win an endurance race.

Hope this obscure lesson helps you out.

 

[Famine]

Yes - it's a case of too much power, applied too early.

The other thing to note is that you're comparing your tyre wear to AI cars - they are usually very kind on their tyres, as they're following a preset line to preset instructions (regardless of whether you're occupying that line or not... dummies). If you're pitting a lap earlier than the equivalent AI car, you're doing just fine.

 

[Moloch_horridus]

Tyre wear is proportional to how often you loose traction. Traction can be lost due to too much power being applied (wheel spin) or going into corners too quickly (spinning/sliding out).

The first can be largely solved with TCS. The second is far more difficult and requires both correct corner entry speeds and smooth lines through the corners. Driving more slowly and smoothly can often make tyres last an extra couple of laps. Major spins and slides will chew up the tyres very quickly and is not recomended.

Try a few experiments - take a car, drive flat out, see how long the tyres last. Try again taking smooth lines and never loosing traction, see how long they last. Compare the two and see which is quicker overall (taking into account extra pit stops etc.).

 

[jasperw4]

der alta is exactly right about the sound, if they're squealing you're wearing them out. if you're going for the maximum number of laps on hard or super hard tires move your braking points back for the first lap or two until the tires are up to temperature. once they are a nice green begin to push harder for a few laps. then as the tires change from green to yellow they will "go off" a bit a you will lose some of grip and will need to back off a bit, but when they turn a bright yellow for a of couple laps they will "come back" and you can use your deeper braking points again to squeeze off a couple quick laps before backing off again and preparing to pit.

 

[socomplayer2]

well with racing tires use R1's or R2's the grip is a bit less but they last alot longer so in the end the are more beneficial

 

[PARAGON GT]

Don't forget to set the cars suspension too. A well set car will allow you to push hard into the corners with out destroying your tires.

After setting my Bentely I was able to keep close to the AI driver in the Super Speedway endurance race. I made it to lap 46 before going into the pits. (low on gas and bright orange tires) The AI driver in the Pescarolo Courage car went to lap 48.

 

[cory101]

also (tell me if im wrong) bring down the rear downforce and up the tcs, it'll stop the tire spin and less downforce=more life out of your tires and speed!

 

[samj_13]

Actually, cory, that would worsen the speed on high speed courses due to reduced downforce. You would want to find a balance of downforce to reduce tire wear, but keep good handling characteristics.

One more tip is to use a slight (1) toe out setting after you've adjusted your braking lines. This gives the car better handling at lower speeds but be warned: it decreases your stability at high speeds considerably.

In a nutshell, you just have to be more conservative with your tires and driving style. If you have a street car, give it a weight reduction upgrade to give it better fuel consumption, handling, tire life, acceleration, etc.

 

[cory101]

just take it down like 5-10 notches, it doesnt make that noticable of a diference then

 

[samj_13]

Agreed. Then it makes a difference in the tire wear, but not on speed.

 

[kart racer]

Take the time to find the proper setup.I find that after finding the best setup for my driving style will increase the life of the tires by 5 to 10 laps.It just takes alot of time.Do it in the practice part .Once you have it,go and change your oil.When you come back to the race,put on your softest tires and set your best lap time.This should get you pole.Put your race tires back on and go hard.Getting pole makes it easier to make your tires last as you don't have to race through the pack.

 

[PARAGON GT]

also (tell me if im wrong) bring down the rear downforce and up the tcs, it'll stop the tire spin and less downforce=more life out of your tires and speed!

If you are saying that if you reduce the downforce you will be able to go faster . . . Thats yes, becasue there is less force pushing down on the car. But reducing downforce too much will decrease the cars handling ability.

Will it improve tire wear . . .Um . . . Not really sure about that.

 

[Mt. Lynx]

this and this may be of interest in this case.

 

[kart racer]

also (tell me if im wrong) bring down the rear downforce and up the tcs, it'll stop the tire spin and less downforce=more life out of your tires and speed!

Actually,less downforce = more tire spin and more sliding in the turns.This will shorten the life of the tires.

 

[PARAGON GT]

this and this may be of interest in this case.

*offtopic* I wonder if it is possible to decrease fule comsumption by tingering with the final drive ratio? Using 5 gears to get to speed, and sixth to drop RPM's??

ok, back to the topic.

 

[Mt. Lynx]

Actually,less downforce = more tire spin and more sliding in the turns.This will shorten the life of the tires.

This depends on what track you´re at. A high speed track with few turns, or a technical track with many turns. A high speed track requires less DF.

*offtopic* I wonder if it is possible to decrease fule comsumption by tingering with the final drive ratio? Using 5 gears to get to speed, and sixth to drop RPM's??

ok, back to the topic.

*OT* The answer is yes, but it´s too small of a change to really matter. You getjust as much preservation from driving smoother, IE not accelerating and decelerating too harsly.

Infact, DF comes to play here too. Less DF = less drag = better MPG.

 

[KkillgasmM]

wow i wasnt expecting so many replies to this thread!

hehe, ill giv it another try

 

[kart racer]

Your right Team666,I don't really think about the high speed tracks when I am looking at lowering tire wear.

 

[kart racer]

wow i wasnt expecting so many replies to this thread!

hehe, ill giv it another try

There is alot of us in here that have been ariund for a little while. So when someone needs help,we will give all that we can.👍

 

[Philly]

Take into account the fact that you will never achieve tire performance like many racing cars. F1 takes what 1.5 - 2 laps to warm up, then they go 3 "golden laps" then go for about 30 more with little performance degradation. In GT4, it takes 1.5 - 2 laps to warm up, maybe 5 laps of speed, then performance drops for about 3 laps.

On the more boring enduros, I like to keep myself entertained by trying to follow a set pit strategy, adjusting my pace to allow the tires to last just how I wanted. Did all of 1000 miles on 2-stoppers except Sarthe.

Try moderating throttle. Easing on to the throttle when exiting a corner can make tires last a while longer. That was how I won race 1 of GT All-stars (the one in Prof. hall.) I think you can also play with brake distribution to ease wear while breaking.