US Spec Lancer EVO VIII information!

[-Fred-]

still not much, but it's better than what we knew!

The car is supposed to be here by January, it will have dual side mount intercoolers (on the sides of the bumper) instead of the big front mount one, to cope with North American crash standards. 270hp is expected, with AYC (active yaw control) and ACD (active center differential), two features that were on the JDM and Euro Spec EVO VII. 8000 units are rumored to make it to our shores yearly, at an estimated price of 31 000$ US (which is about the same as the WRX STi's estimated price) expect 5 colors, and a revised front fascia.


a small video clip of the car in action, at the Nurburgring: http://www.the-shadows.net/movies/Evo8_Nurb.wmv

It will look pretty much as the EVO VII, except for the new front bumper, and a few other bits.

this is a modified image of an EVO VII, i think, to give an idea of what the VIII will look like...

i will dig up more info, and come back with that. this is great news!

 

[-Fred-]

and already found some more info!


There have been a few weight saving measures. The rear spoiler is made entirely of carbon fiber, which means it's a lot stronger than the resin one of the past, not to mention it's 2 kg lighter. 17'' Enkei wheels will be made standard, 0.8 kg lighter per wheel than the BBS wheels found on the EVO VII.

the engine is lighter than in the past as well, due to the use of lighter material in the internals.

6 speed manual will be standard, no mention of an Automatic version as of yet.

i found this page, with all the specs on the car. these are for the JDM and Euro spec version, but it's still a pretty good base for the US spec one.

http://japanvehicles.com/newcars/mitsubishi/Evo8/main.htm

note the 17'' brakes up front. i don't understand how can the brakes be that big, it would be impossible to fit under the 17'' standard wheels. time will tell, i guess.

 

[1X83Z]

It better be hard-edged.

And we know there's going to be a waiting list if it's $31k and only 8000 units are expected.

Who would want an automatic version anyway?

 

[Joey D]

I'd rather go with the Subby WRX STi. I just think it looks better and knowing Subby it most likely a better factory tuned car.

 

[-Fred-]

Originally posted by M5Power


Who would want an automatic version anyway?

womens? or people living deep in the downtowns? i still don't get it, but hey, you can get auto Ferraris nowaday...

rumors have it the EVO VIII will be faster than the STi, when it arrives here. we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by PunkRock



womens? or people living deep in the downtowns? i still don't get it, but hey, you can get auto Ferraris nowaday...

For celebrities who never learned how to drive.

rumors have it the EVO VIII will be faster than the STi, when it arrives here. we'll just have to wait and see.

When's the STi arriving?

 

[-Fred-]

supposed to be here a bit later, probably when they'll introduce the facelifted Impreza, maybe a couple of months after the EVO. haven't found much valid informations on it as of now...

 

[Gran Turismo7058]

looks like a Modified Lancer EvoVII

 

[Hooligan]

Softer-looking than the v6, but harder than the v7. It's okay. I fully expect AYC and ACD to be options on top of the $31,000 price, given Mitsubishi's recent track record. As for the twin side intercoolers, obviously that won't be as effective as one larger, central intercooler. Add on the maintenance headaches from that bit alone, and I'll still go for the WRX STi.

 

[1X83Z]

Alas, if the STi comes out after the EVO, I would be unable to wait and purchase the EVO. Subaru's making a mistake if they don't release at the same time or first.

 

[12sec. Civic]

I simply cannot wait for both cars to come. These cars will be putting alot of people in their place.

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

All I can say is, Mitsubishi screw it up again.
I hate cars that are detuned, it doesn't look original, it looks like we are the weakling against the Euros, and the Japanese. And BTW this wasn't Mitsu's first, the legendary Eclipse (supposed to be a 2.0L I-4 Turbocharged, 4WD monster coupe) was turned into a DaimlerChrysler s*** V6 and FWD crapmobile.

Screw that, I prefer to spend $45,000 on a JDM-spec EVO VII/EVO VIII that has a pure-bred 4G63 engine that has 280hp, AYC and DSC at Evolution Imports, rather than spending $31,000 and end up embarrasing myself driving an "EVO wannabe".

 

[1X83Z]

I don't - especially if Britain and Japan get the same car.

 

[Hooligan]

Having just glanced through Car&Driver (*shudder*...), it seems that AYC and ACD are indeed not standard, and will be options later in the year. That leaves you with a slightly de-tuned 270HP, normal AWD, 5-speed manual or auto, and added weight to the front bumper from the redundant crash beam. For US$31,000. IMO, not as good a deal as the STi (better day-to-day ride, 6-speed manual, stronger torque curve). But of course, I'm quite the Scooby fanatic.

In the same issue, it seems that Subaru is thinking about bringing the Legacy B4 over here, only changing it from a 2.0L twin-turbo to a 2.5L single-turbo. They claim more low-to-midrange torque, which I could have seen from a 2.5L-tt, but not from a single-turbo setup (read: if Bentley couldn't do it, how can Subaru?).

They're also considering the H6 as a performance engine candidate. My personal favorite would be a twin-turbo version of the H6. It is so...Porsche.

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

Hey, I read the same article as you do, man the B4 is tight.
The STi the biggest value. EVO, a big dissapointment.

 

[1X83Z]

Does Subaru insist on never changing the ever-dominating 2.5 H4? How long have they been using it on their entire range - ten years? Fifteen? At least throw the Forester the H6 bone, here!

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

Imagine the same turbo/intercooler on the STi on the already impressive 2.5L H-4. That would be neat.

 

[Hooligan]

Originally posted by The Vanishing Boy
Imagine the same turbo/intercooler on the STi on the already impressive 2.5L H-4. That would be neat.

Neat, yes. All that efficient...well, it'd be different. The turbo would probably spool faster, the increased amount of gases forcing its way down the exhaust, so there would be less lag. But that small turbo can only spin so fast, so at higher rev's there will be a limit on boost, if not a decrease in power due to less air than is needed at that engine speed.

Turbo sizing is akin to voodoo. I don't pretend to know how to do it. I take other's advice and say "Um, yep; sounds good to me".

But Subaru is already setting up something with (to quote M%Power) the venerable 2.5-H4. Whatever new turbo setup goes on that should be quite nice. I can easily forsee a torque curve similar to the Neon SRT-4. Which is a good thing.

 

[Supra4eva]

Going over the info in here about the Evo VIII, must say it sounds good, and i got some information from australia when i was over there. Its going to be a great car, and when put into racing, it will certanly give the subaru's a run for their money, on the track, and in WRC's.

Must say nice pics too. C ya later.

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

If Subaru engines compared in horsepower:

2.0L max power= 300HP est (WRX Sti S02)

*2.5L max power=350-400HP!!!!! :rscared: :fdevil:

*estimation

 

[Supra4eva]

With the new specialised parts the VIII is made up of, the overall performance of the car could probrably superceed that. IT runs so smoothly apparently. We'll have to wait and see !

 

[Hooligan]

Originally posted by The Vanishing Boy
If Subaru engines compared in horsepower:

2.0L max power= 300HP est (WRX Sti S02)

*2.5L max power=350-400HP!!!!! :rscared: :fdevil:

*estimation

You can get considerably more from the EJ20. Of course, that would require replacing most of the internal engine components. But aside from that.... I've seen 340HP with bolt-ons, but I don't know how long that lasted, or how often it actually hit that HP peak. But the EJ25 should do quite well. I'd expect considerably more torque, though, which means Subaru will have to get up off their duffs and strengthen their gearbox (and perhaps the half-shafts, driveshafts, differentials...). And it'd be about damned time, too!

 

[askia47]

Can't wait for it any more...Come on EVO!

 

[-Fred-]

well, found a thread on evolutionm.net with scans of the service manual

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?threadid=11180&perpage=15&pagenumber=1 for those interested

bad thing: GT-A like clear taillights... seems like they riced it out themselves...

also looks like it will have a full front mount intercooler, and not a twin side mount like previously stated. with all these years of tuning the 4G63 in the Eclipse/Talon/Galant VR4/Starion, expect to see major engine upgrades in no time!

and a correction on the release date, it's due out for maybe late February or early March, according to Mitsubishi insiders.

 

[-Fred-]

looks a bit shorter than the WRX...

the ugly taillights...

ohh, carbon fiber!

good shot of the bumper, intercooler and Pontiac reminescent grille...

 

[Supra4eva]

Nice shots, anymore ???

 

[Solid Fro]

If I had one, the first thing I'd do is replace that horrible front bumper with a JDM front.

 

[Supra4eva]

Hey sorry but i kinda like the styling on the bumper, its new to the EVO Styling for a change. Have you got anything more to add viper zero. I c u like the F-14, send me an E-mail at Supra4eva@hotmail.com. I think me and u might get along well, lol

 

[Hooligan]

Originally posted by PunkRock

looks a bit shorter than the WRX...

Shorter usually makes for a better handling car, since there's less mass to move outside of the turning radius. But in this case there's a trade-off. The WRX engine is longitudinal, leaving the option of equal-length drive axles. The Evo engine is transverse, so while it takes up less space in the engine bay, it is almost impossible to avoid unequal-length axles. Without AWD, that means massive torque steer (if coupled with lots of power, which the Evo has in spades). So expect a twitchy steering wheel when launching the car in less-than good road conditions.

But I may still hunt for one should I come across such money....

 

[illegal]

hmmm, nice...