Wanted: Driving Force GT Tips

[Maison]

Not limited to, but other Tips to improve my driving experiance would be great!

I have attached two videos for observation. One without Driving Force GT used, and one with Driving Force Used.

Off topic: I would like to share cars on GT PSP.
And I wonder if anyone else still plays GT2 (which is still my favourite)


Not done with Driving Force GT

Done using Driving Force GT

 

[mr_VOLCANO]

My only tip would be; try to use less steering angle on your wheel and let the body roll do the work insted....if that made any sense

And watch some top 10 replays (from cockpit view so you see wheel!)

 

[crazytortise]

Was that standard physics? If so I would suggest don't waste your time. When you get good in standard physics and you want to go to pro, it's going to be learning all over again. Change to pro physics and do time trials on something like Suzuka East in a RX-8. It will help you get the feel of the wheel and you will learn how to apply throttle and such. Tuned Vette is not easy to start off with lol. But try mid powered cars, get the feel, how it reacts to different inputs. Also try keep hands at more of a 9 and 3 position. Hope that helps somewhat.

Other then that it's just practice, practice, practice, and yes, more practice.

Good luck 👍

 

[daan]

You're holding the wheel wrong. Try and keep your hands at 10 to 2, or quarter to 3, all the time and stop moving them about.

 

[lbsf1]

I agree with daan that you are holding the wheel wrong.
Another thing I noticed that if you are going to race online then you need to stop using others as brakes.

As was allready said that only thing that can be sure to help is practise practise and just abit more practise.

 

[Maison]

My only tip would be; try to use less steering angle on your wheel and let the body roll do the work insted....if that made any sense

And watch some top 10 replays (from cockpit view so you see wheel!)

I'll jump on that ASAP. But a question about why use cockpit not bumper?

Was that standard physics? If so I would suggest don't waste your time. When you get good in standard physics and you want to go to pro, it's going to be learning all over again. Change to pro physics and do time trials on something like Suzuka East in a RX-8. It will help you get the feel of the wheel and you will learn how to apply throttle and such. Tuned Vette is not easy to start off with lol. But try mid powered cars, get the feel, how it reacts to different inputs. Also try keep hands at more of a 9 and 3 position. Hope that helps somewhat.

Other then that it's just practice, practice, practice, and yes, more practice.

Good luck 👍

Yeah, I will use Pro from now on. You're right about the whole learning a new set of skills.

You're holding the wheel wrong. Try and keep your hands at 10 to 2, or quarter to 3, all the time and stop moving them about.

I'll try to do that, I guess its a habbit from actual driving.

I agree with daan that you are holding the wheel wrong.
Another thing I noticed that if you are going to race online then you need to stop using others as brakes.

As was allready said that only thing that can be sure to help is practise practise and just abit more practise.

Hahaha, I know the video looks like i'm using others, however i'm not. The car I was driving was out of class and I was merely trying to pass. I keep trying not to hit the others. I'll upload a video when I get better at that.

As for breaks themselves, I really don't know whats a good setting. I would normally have 7/7 and they would work pretty nice, however now they are so sensitive I have set them to 4/4. What do you think would be a little better?

 

[crazytortise]

As for breaks themselves, I really don't know whats a good setting. I would normally have 7/7 and they would work pretty nice, however now they are so sensitive I have set them to 4/4. What do you think would be a little better?

It all depends on the car. Some cars that have terrible understeer, you would have more brake in the rear to help bring it around in corners. Some cars would have a bit more in the front. It's all down to feel and what you prefer. I tend to use, example 7/5 for a car like the Vette. But like i said it's all down to what you prefer. There's a huge tuning section that can help you. LINK

 

[Maison]

It all depends on the car. Some cars that have terrible understeer, you would have more brake in the rear to help bring it around in corners. Some cars would have a bit more in the front. It's all down to feel and what you prefer. I tend to use, example 7/5 for a car like the Vette. But like i said it's all down to what you prefer. There's a huge tuning section that can help you. LINK

Alright, thanks a heap man. I'll check it out once I get back from school.

 

[chepe371]

What daan said + start with a more balanced tame car, in Pro physics with all aids off except ABS on minimal settings. An RX7 for example, still FR but easy to drive.

Be smooth as possible as Kaz always says regarding how to play GT in general, jerking the wheel around might seem exciting but its the equivalent of splashing your arms wildly while trying to speed swim.

Brake much earlier into the apex to avoid contact with other cars, which will cause unwanted weight transfer.

Downshift late, if you downshift too early your wheels spin = oversteer.

Take the game slow, just cause you have the cash or the cars dont mean you can drive them.

Learn the tracks, proper entry and exit points will make your car seem more stable and balanced.

Drivetrain and Weight will paint a small picture of which methods i should use FF, FR, RR, 4WD and MR all have their kinks and no 2 methods are alike. For example MR cars, when you brake into a turn, get on the gas quickly (not hard, but fast) to exit properly, for 4WD tho, brake smoothly swing the car and be on the accell rather late to avoid understeer.

Remember you can get better at GT and driving in general from watching informative driving videos such as the ones on GTChannel or the Tommi Makkinen rally school videos and of course the Keiichi Tsuchiya 80's OG Touge Videos, Tsuchiya is my personal fav, from the streets so he has that common man appeal, but highly skilled and always enthusiastic!


Lastly, most of driving, in GT at least, is theory. Visualize the cars capabilities and limits.

Have fun driving.

 

[tyl0r_r]

I can't help much because I suck. But I have a DFGT wheel like you and have been trying to get better.

http://www.virtualracersedge.com/physics_of_racing.htm : stuff about physics of racing

http://www.race2play.com/homepage/show_blog_posts/333 : a guide to sim races

Those have helped me. I don't know how much, but I'm sure they have. You may also want to find the Gran Turismo driving guide from the instruction booklet of GT 2 (I think it was GT 2, could've been 1, I don't know). It's a .pdf that's really, really easy to find on Google. It has got some interesting tips.

Pick a small amount of cars that you like which are not completely similar to one another. I like the RX7, any GTR, and the California, for example. Practice with those. It might be best to pick just one, but that can be boring after a while.

Do time trials. You'll have an easier and better time improving without worrying about others on the track. Plus you'll have nobody to bounce off of in order to save yourself. It can be frustrating to keep doing laps alone and not be able to reach the time you just set the last session (a feeling I'm having as I write this after a session on Fuji) but it's such a good barometer of your improvement to track lap times this way. In a month and a half or so I've gotten about 5 seconds faster on Fuji (from newb to semi-newb).

It's difficult and annoying to get better but it's like that to get better at anything, so keep plugging away!

 

[Maison]

What daan said + start with a more balanced tame car, in Pro physics with all aids off except ABS on minimal settings. An RX7 for example, still FR but easy to drive.

so you say the FRs would be a nice first choice when getting use to the wheel?
*edit: I got everything off, like TCS, ABS

Be smooth as possible as Kaz always says regarding how to play GT in general, jerking the wheel around might seem exciting but its the equivalent of splashing your arms wildly while trying to speed swim.

Brake much earlier into the apex to avoid contact with other cars, which will cause unwanted weight transfer.

Downshift late, if you downshift too early your wheels spin = oversteer.

I have been trying the tuning layout by user "RiceBuster" in the 8 gear Lexus IS F most UNDERRATED japanese car in the game thread.

The car stuck to the road very very nicely.

Take the game slow, just cause you have the cash or the cars dont mean you can drive them.

Of course!

Learn the tracks, proper entry and exit points will make your car seem more stable and balanced.

Drivetrain and Weight will paint a small picture of which methods i should use FF, FR, RR, 4WD and MR all have their kinks and no 2 methods are alike. For example MR cars, when you brake into a turn, get on the gas quickly (not hard, but fast) to exit properly, for 4WD tho, brake smoothly swing the car and be on the accell rather late to avoid understeer.

Remember you can get better at GT and driving in general from watching informative driving videos such as the ones on GTChannel or the Tommi Makkinen rally school videos and of course the Keiichi Tsuchiya 80's OG Touge Videos, Tsuchiya is my personal fav, from the streets so he has that common man appeal, but highly skilled and always enthusiastic!


Lastly, most of driving, in GT at least, is theory. Visualize the cars capabilities and limits.

Have fun driving.

Thanks.

I can't help much because I suck. But I have a DFGT wheel like you and have been trying to get better.

http://www.virtualracersedge.com/physics_of_racing.htm : stuff about physics of racing

http://www.race2play.com/homepage/show_blog_posts/333 : a guide to sim races

Those have helped me. I don't know how much, but I'm sure they have. You may also want to find the Gran Turismo driving guide from the instruction booklet of GT 2 (I think it was GT 2, could've been 1, I don't know). It's a .pdf that's really, really easy to find on Google. It has got some interesting tips.

Pick a small amount of cars that you like which are not completely similar to one another. I like the RX7, any GTR, and the California, for example. Practice with those. It might be best to pick just one, but that can be boring after a while.

Do time trials. You'll have an easier and better time improving without worrying about others on the track. Plus you'll have nobody to bounce off of in order to save yourself. It can be frustrating to keep doing laps alone and not be able to reach the time you just set the last session (a feeling I'm having as I write this after a session on Fuji) but it's such a good barometer of your improvement to track lap times this way. In a month and a half or so I've gotten about 5 seconds faster on Fuji (from newb to semi-newb).

It's difficult and annoying to get better but it's like that to get better at anything, so keep plugging away!

Yeah thanks heaps, but about time trial and arcade racing, there is a restriction on tires in Time Trial i'm sure. I think S3, and as for regular racing, I think there is no restriction.

As for the driving tips manual, it is indeed in the GT2 case.

 

[snake900]

Nice thread. I race with a DS3 but only on standard, heh.

Using the wheel looks exciting. I think I'll have to invest in one and maybe use the wheel to learn how to drive on pro instead of using the DS3 to drive professional.

 

[Maison]

Nice thread. I race with a DS3 but only on standard, heh.

Using the wheel looks exciting. I think I'll have to invest in one and maybe use the wheel to learn how to drive on pro instead of using the DS3 to drive professional.

yeah, its a hella lot harder, especially at first, however its quite fun once you get use to it, i'm still getting better, but nowhere near close enough to compete with others... I been using it on the PS2 playing GT4

 

[Maison]

Just posting a update, I think I got the hang of it, I want some more feedback.

EDIT: I will add a YouTube video later, I just remembered, you have to transfer it from your computer to PS3 and then open it, too much stuffing around for some people.

I have attached a replay. It's only 1 lap, well almost. Don't mind the end it, that was a minor mistake. Second gear is only slightly tricky.

 

[Spagetti69]

Hi fellas what force feedback settings do you guys use. Just got myself a DFGT and was wondering what recomendations for the most realistic feel.

Thanks.