Weather question, am i missing something?

[quickegt]

I have searched, hopefully I didn't miss this question existing already.

Is there a way to see the likelihood of rain before the race starts?

I've lost track of how many races are ruined for me because it starts raining and I'm running on RS tires.

I'll redo the race with intermediate tires only to have it not rain.

The sky during the beginning is not 100% reliable. I've had rain when it was sunny, and zero rain when it wad cloudy.

Getting tired of losing 5 lap races because I select the wrong tire.

 

[Dave A]

I have searched, hopefully I didn't miss this question existing already.

Is there a way to see the likelihood of rain before the race starts?

I've lost track of how many races are ruined for me because it starts raining and I'm running on RS tires.

I'll redo the race with intermediate tires only to have it not rain.

The sky during the beginning is not 100% reliable. I've had rain when it was sunny, and zero rain when it wad cloudy.

Getting tired of losing 5 lap races because I select the wrong tire.

It is frustrating pitting in only for the weather to change on your out lap unexpectedly. When you restart the races re youexiting the race back to the World Circiuts events screen for that track rather than simply restarting the race while inside the event?

As far as I'm aware, unless this has been patched, when you restart the race the weather patterns remain the same on the restart. So if the rais starts after 6 minutes the first itme, it'll start after 6 minutes on the restart.

If you actually leave the event and then enter it again the game will re-determine the weather pattern for the race and it'll change. At least that's how it's always seemed for me, but not played much recently so it could've changed in an update.

 

[DivitLad]

edit: I Said RS tyres be more slippy under wet condition, if rs tyres are more slidey or not than mediums or hard I 'm not sure.

 

[Michael88]

It is frustrating pitting in only for the weather to change on your out lap unexpectedly. When you restart the races re youexiting the race back to the World Circiuts events screen for that track rather than simply restarting the race while inside the event?

I've never had this happen because I always zoom out weather radar before I pit, that shows how the next 2 laps gonna look like. Also in 99% of the cases intermediates are enough since the tracks dry very quickly once the rain is gone - you only really need wet tires to prevent aquaplaning when the rain is so bad the rain-o-meter goes dark-blue.

 

[OldandSlow]

I’ve had the map be all clear when entering the pits and have it be raining when exiting.

 

[Dave A]

I've never had this happen because I always zoom out weather radar before I pit, that shows how the next 2 laps gonna look like. Also in 99% of the cases intermediates are enough since the tracks dry very quickly once the rain is gone - you only really need wet tires to prevent aquaplaning when the rain is so bad the rain-o-meter goes dark-blue.

I do the same but I have still had it happen to me, you have a dark patch approaching but the moment you come out the pit it starts to clear or the wind changes direction and the heavy rain you were epecting to hit swing by. On some races the weather moves across the map super fast too. Granted it doesn't happen all that often and zooming out on the weather radar and checking it before pitting in is a very wise suggestion but it's not 100% as things can still change quickly.

 

[pedrocor]

I’ve had the map be all clear when entering the pits and have it be raining when exiting.

I've never had this happen because I always zoom out weather radar before I pit.

That! You must zoom out to the max the weather radar (100km radius in metric units settings) to get the most out of it... More zoom in doesn't help you at all, as just shows over the track, which means you only see the current weather, not what is approaching the track. This is specially relevant as weather is time accelerated.
Take La Sarthe/Le Mans, where you need almost a minute between pit entry, tires, fuel and pit exit, with time acceleration on weather it's natural that between entering and exiting, the weather changes.

Even in real world racing, with the best weather services available, there are times that just pitting a lap to late or too soon could be disastrous, just look Russian GP 2021...

 

[OldandSlow]

I always have had the map at maximum distance.

 

[quickegt]

I always have had the map at maximum distance.

Unfortunately the map doesnt help your before race tire decision. Just got burnt again the other day. Weather looked terrible, full of dark skies and clouds, so I fitted intermediate tires and spent the whole race in cloudy but no rain conditions and only came in second. It's the short 5 lap races where this really screws you.

 

[CrookedPanda]

I’ve had the map be all clear when entering the pits and have it be raining when exiting.

I had this happened to me too at Le Mans, with the radar at max distance too.
You should have seen my face when I came out on RH with torrential rain!

 

[floydant]

I have made a spreadsheet that has all the events on it with requirements such as PP, tyres, car restrictions, no of laps, prize money etc. I use it to filter when looking for an event to do in a specific car and to log what car I used.
One of the columns is whether the race is dry or wet, as the fact that you have no idea until you start a race really annoys me.
Please see below an extract of spreadsheet showing the weather info.
I have kept it pretty basic, "wet" doesn't mean the whole race is wet, just that it will rain at some point.

I will post the completed spreadsheet if there is any interest?
I am currently updating it with a column to say whether or not there is fuel/tyre wear per race.

Spoiler: Race Weather

Type	Circuit	Events	Weather
1. Timed	Circuit de La Sarthe	World Touring Car 700	Wet
1. Timed	Circuit de Spa Francorchamps 24h	World Touring Car 800	Wet
1. Timed	Road Atlanta	Gr. 1 Prototype Series	Dry
2. Race	Goodwood Motor Circuit	Clubman Cup Plus	Dry
2. Race	Brands Hatch Indy	Sunday Cup Classic	Dry
2. Race	Autodrome Lago Maggiore Centre	Sunday Cup Classic	Dry
2. Race	Goodwood Motor Circuit	Sunday Cup Classic	Dry
2. Race	Broad Bean Raceway	Sunday Cup	Dry
2. Race	Northern Isle Speedway	Sunday Cup	Dry
2. Race	Autodrome Lago Maggiore Centre	Sunday Cup	Dry
2. Race	Alsace Village Test Course Reverse	European Sunday Cup 400	Dry
2. Race	Brands Hatch Indy	European Sunday Cup 400	Dry
2. Race	Sardegna Road B	European Sunday Cup 400	Dry
2. Race	Autodrome Lago Maggiore East End Reverse	Lightweight K-Cup	Dry
2. Race	Tokyo Expressway South Clockwise	Lightweight K-Cup	Dry
2. Race	Willow Springs - Streets	Lightweight K-Cup	Dry
2. Race	Willow Springs - Big Willow	Pick-up Truck Race	Dry
2. Race	Colorado Springs	Pick-up Truck Race	Dry
2. Race	Daytona International Speedway Tri-Oval	Pick-up Truck Race	Dry
2. Race	Tsukuba Circuit	Japanese FF Challenge 450	Dry
2. Race	Suzuka Circuit East	Japanese FF Challenge 450	Dry
2. Race	High Speed Ring	Japanese FF Challenge 450	Dry
2. Race	Autopolis International Raceway	Japanese FR Challenge 450	Dry
2. Race	High Speed Ring Reverse	Japanese FR Challenge 450	Dry
2. Race	Tokyo Expressway Central Clockwise	Japanese FR Challenge 450	Dry
2. Race	Tsukuba Circuit	Japanese FR Challenge 450	Dry
2. Race	Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya National	European Sunday Cup 500	Dry
2. Race	Circuit de Spa Francorchamps 24h	European Sunday Cup 500	Dry
2. Race	Sardegna Road B	European Sunday Cup 500	Dry
2. Race	Brands Hatch GP	European Sunday Cup 500	Dry
2. Race	Deep Forest Raceway	European Sunday Cup 500	Dry
2. Race	Tsukuba Circuit	Silvia Sisters	Dry
2. Race	Willow Springs - Streets	Silvia Sisters	Dry
2. Race	Deep Forest Raceway Reverse	Silvia Sisters	Dry
2. Race	Tokyo Expressway South Clockwise	Silvia Sisters	Dry
2. Race	Watkins Glen International Short Course	American FR Challenge 550	Dry
2. Race	Road Atlanta	American FR Challenge 550	Dry
2. Race	Blue Moon Bay Speedway	American FR Challenge 550	Dry
2. Race	Willow Springs - Big Willow	American FR Challenge 550	Dry
2. Race	WeatherTech Raceway Laguna Seca	American FR Challenge 550	Dry
2. Race	Tokyo Expressway Central Clockwise	Clubman Cup Plus	Dry
2. Race	Tsukuba Circuit	Clubman Cup Plus	Dry
2. Race	High Speed Ring	Clubman Cup Plus	Dry
2. Race	Brands Hatch GP	European FR Challenge 550	Dry
2. Race	Nurburgring GP	European FR Challenge 550	Dry
2. Race	Red Bull Ring	European FR Challenge 550	Dry
2. Race	Dragon Trail Gardens	European FR Challenge 550	Dry
2. Race	Circuit de Spa Francorchamps 24h	Japanese Clubman Cup 550	Dry
2. Race	Fuji International Speedway	Japanese Clubman Cup 550	Dry
2. Race	Autopolis International Raceway	Japanese Clubman Cup 550	Dry
2. Race	Tokyo Expressway South Clockwise	Japanese Clubman Cup 550	Dry
2. Race	Willow Springs - Big Willow	Historic Sports Car Masters	Dry
2. Race	Goodwood Motor Circuit	Historic Sports Car Masters	Dry
2. Race	Nurburgring Nordschleife	Historic Sports Car Masters	Wet
2. Race	Circuit de Spa Francorchamps	Historic Sports Car Masters	Dry
2. Race	Daytona International Speedway Tri-Oval	American Sunday Cup 600	Dry
2. Race	Blue Moon Bay Infield A	American Sunday Cup 600	Dry
2. Race	Willow Springs - Big Willow	American Sunday Cup 600	Dry
2. Race	Brands Hatch GP	European Clubman Cup 600	Dry
2. Race	Sardegna Road A	European Clubman Cup 600	Dry
2. Race	Alsace Village	European Clubman Cup 600	Dry
2. Race	Nurburgring Nordschleife	European Clubman Cup 600	Wet
2. Race	Kyoto Driving Park - Yamagiwa	Japanese 4WD Challenge 600	Dry
2. Race	Trial Mountain	Japanese 4WD Challenge 600	Dry
2. Race	Mount Panorama	Japanese 4WD Challenge 600	Dry
2. Race	Tokyo Expressway East Clockwise	World Touring Car 600	Wet Drying
2. Race	Tokyo Expressway East Clockwise	World Touring Car 600	Wet Drying
2. Race	Circuit de Spa Francorchamps	World Touring Car 600	Dry
2. Race	Tokyo Expressway South Counter Clockwise	World Touring Car 600	Dry
2. Race	Nürburgring GP	World Touring Car 600	Dry
2. Race	Brands Hatch GP	GT Cup Gr.4	Dry
2. Race	High Speed Ring	GT Cup Gr.4	Dry
2. Race	Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya GP No Chicane	Porsche Cup	Dry
2. Race	Nurburgring Nordschleife	Porsche Cup	Dry maybe rain
2. Race	Autodrome Lago Maggiore Full Course	Porsche Cup	Dry
2. Race	Circuit de Spa Francorchamps	Porsche Cup	Wet
2. Race	Watkins Glen International Long Course	American Clubman Cup 700	Dry
2. Race	Trial Mountain	American Clubman Cup 700	Dry
2. Race	Mount Panorama	American Clubman Cup 700	Dry
2. Race	Daytona International Speedway Road Course	American Clubman Cup 700	Dry
2. Race	WeatherTech Raceway Laguna Seca	American Clubman Cup 700	Dry
2. Race	Special Stage Route X	American Clubman Cup 700	Dry
2. Race	Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya	Ferrari Circuit Challenge	Dry
2. Race	Dragon Trail Seaside	Ferrari Circuit Challenge	Dry
2. Race	Autodrome Lago Maggiore Full Course	Ferrari Circuit Challenge	Dry
2. Race	Tokyo Expressway East Clockwise	Nissan GT-R Cup	Dry
2. Race	Deep Forest Raceway	Nissan GT-R Cup	Dry
2. Race	Dragon Trail Gardens	Nissan GT-R Cup	Dry
2. Race	Road Atlanta	Race of Turbo Sports Cars	Dry
2. Race	Autodromo de Interlagos	Race of Turbo Sports Cars	Dry
2. Race	Circuit Sainte-Croix B	Race of Turbo Sports Cars	Dry
2. Race	Suzuka Circuit	Race of Turbo Sports Cars	Wet
2. Race	Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya	Schwarzwald League	Dry
2. Race	Circuit Sainte-Croix B	Schwarzwald League	Dry
2. Race	Nurburgring Nordschleife	Schwarzwald League	Wet
2. Race	Alsace Village	World Rally Challenge	Dry
2. Race	Brands Hatch GP	World Touring Car 700	Dry
2. Race	WeatherTech Raceway Laguna Seca	World Touring Car 700	Dry
2. Race	Deep Forest Raceway	World Touring Car 700	Dry
2. Race	Red Bull Ring	World Touring Car 700	Wet
2. Race	Autopolis International Raceway	World Touring Car 700	Wet
2. Race	Dragon Trail Gardens Reverse	World Touring Car 700	Dry
2. Race	Daytona International Speedway Road Course	GT Cup Gr.3	Dry
2. Race	Suzuka Circuit	GT Cup Gr.3	Dry
2. Race	Circuit de Spa Francorchamps	GT Cup Gr.3	Dry
2. Race	Autodrome Lago Maggiore Full Course	GT Cup Gr.3	Dry
2. Race	Willow Springs - Big Willow	Neo-Classic	Dry
2. Race	Red Bull Ring	Neo-Classic	Wet
2. Race	Fuji International Speedway	Neo-Classic	Wet
2. Race	Sardegna Road A	World Touring Car 800	Dry
2. Race	Watkins Glen International Long Course	World Touring Car 800	Dry
2. Race	Tokyo Expressway East Clockwise	World Touring Car 800	Wet
2. Race	Daytona International Speedway Road Course	World Touring Car 800	Dry
2. Race	Autodrome Lago Maggiore Full Course	World Touring Car 800	Dry
2. Race	Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya	World Touring Car 800	Dry
2. Race	Autodromo Nazionale Monza	World Touring Car 800	Dry
2. Race	Suzuka Circuit	World Touring Car 800	Wet
2. Race	Dragon Trail Seaside Reverse	World Touring Car 800	Dry
2. Race	Circuit de La Sarthe	World Touring Car 800	Dry
2. Race	Fuji International Speedway	World Touring Car 800	Wet
2. Race	Kyoto Driving Park - Yamagiwa	Vision Gran Turismo Trophy	Dry
2. Race	Autodromo de Interlagos	Vision Gran Turismo Trophy	Dry
2. Race	Deep Forest Raceway Reverse	Vision Gran Turismo Trophy	Dry
2. Race	Fuji International Speedway	Gr. 1 Prototype Series	Wet
2. Race	Suzuka Circuit	Gr. 1 Prototype Series	Wet
2. Race	Circuit Sainte-Croix C	Gr. 1 Prototype Series	Dry
2. Race	Daytona International Speedway Road Course	Gr. 1 Prototype Series	Dry
2. Race	Kyoto Driving Park - Yamagiwa + Miyabi	Hypercar Parade	Dry
2. Race	Trial Mountain	Hypercar Parade	Dry
2. Race	Circuit de La Sarthe	Hypercar Parade	Dry
2. Race	Autodromo Nazionale Monza	Hypercar Parade	Dry
2. Race	Willow Springs - Big Willow	World Rally Challenge Gr. B	Dry
2. Race	Tokyo Expressway Central Clockwise	World Rally Challenge Gr. B	Wet
2. Race	Trial Mountain	World Rally Challenge Gr. B	Dry
3. Champ	HSR x2, HSR (reverse) x2	High Speed Ring Track Day	Dry, Wet
3. Champ	Tokyo Central Clockwise x2, Tokyo Central Anti-Clockwise x2,	Tokyo Highway Parade	Dry, Wet
3. Champ	Alsace Village x2, Alsace Village Reverse x2	Petite Course de France	Dry
3. Champ	Tokyo S Counter x3, Fuji Inter x3, Bathurst x3	Asia-Oceania Championship	Dry
3. Champ	Dragon Seaside x3, Monza x3, Nurburg GP x3	Euro Championship	Wet, Dry, Wet
3. Champ	Trial Mountain x2	Trial Mount Cup	Dry
3. Champ	Red Bull x5, Suzuka x5, Dragon Seaside x5	WTC 600	Wet, Dry, Dry
3. Champ	Blue Moon Speedway x6, Daytona road x5, Interlagos x5	Pan-American Championship	Dry x3
3. Champ	Trial Mountain x5, Barca GP x5, Nurburgring 24H x1	WTC 700	Dry x3
3. Champ	Deep Forest x7, Spa x5, Sarthe x3, Bathurst x5, Nurburgring 24H x2	World GT Series	Dry, Dry, Wet, Dry, Dry

 

[regnar]

For the weather to be more realistic the scale of the map should have been reduced to something like 2km, not 100km. No where in the world would a storm 50km out reach you in 30 seconds!!.
The map for the most part is useless, given if your just starting a lap on most tracks you won't make it back to the pits before deluge hits.

 

[MoLiEG]

I have searched, hopefully I didn't miss this question existing already.

Is there a way to see the likelihood of rain before the race starts?

I've lost track of how many races are ruined for me because it starts raining and I'm running on RS tires.

I'll redo the race with intermediate tires only to have it not rain.

The sky during the beginning is not 100% reliable. I've had rain when it was sunny, and zero rain when it wad cloudy.

Getting tired of losing 5 lap races because I select the wrong tire.

GT5 had this super small indicator at the beginning of each race showing how wet the track was, so you could adjust your tire selection.

It's incredible how a 10+ year old game made by the same "indie" company that made GT7 has a better pre-race menu.

 

[KaiB]

For the weather to be more realistic the scale of the map should have been reduced to something like 2km, not 100km. No where in the world would a storm 50km out reach you in 30 seconds!!.
The map for the most part is useless, given if your just starting a lap on most tracks you won't make it back to the pits before deluge hits.

Theres the multipliers so you cant apply RL logic to weather behavior, the same goes for tyres..., which means people must pratice combos in order to understand and optimise the races...

The only thing PD could add its a forescast feature before the race starts so people can have an idea of weather conditions before the race starts, but during race radar its fine as it is, also theres the wet meter so people know how wet the track is and what tyre to use..., in RL with all the tech available teams and engineers still fail and those races are the most unpredictable and full of surprises.

 

[quickegt]

GT5 had this super small indicator at the beginning of each race showing how wet the track was, so you could adjust your tire selection.

It's incredible how a 10+ year old game made by the same "indie" company that made GT7 has a better pre-race menu.

I thought I remembered this too. Glad you said something. I miss that little indicator that gave you an idea what to expect.

This is by far the best GT to date, but not having an indication of what to expect weather wise is definitely an oversight.

 

[shadow0460]

For the weather to be more realistic the scale of the map should have been reduced to something like 2km, not 100km. No where in the world would a storm 50km out reach you in 30 seconds!!.
The map for the most part is useless, given if your just starting a lap on most tracks you won't make it back to the pits before deluge hits.

Oklahoma: Here, hold my beer.

My best advice is just to run sports tires or intermediates. Throughout the various patches IM's have had varying levels of grip. They reduce PP as well, meaning you can increase the power or decrease the weight a bit.