WEC rising star R9 SPA Final

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Cars should they stay or should they go?

  • No, I'm happy with the cars

    Votes: 16 64.0%
  • Yes, I hate he cars and I want something else

    Votes: 9 36.0%

  • Total voters
    25
I wish I had neighbours who don't make a huge bonfire of an evening, and the people over the road who set off the fireworks all race (Brighton always has fireworks on a Saturday, rather annoying)
 
I hook mine up to one those wooden folding tables,luckily it was just the right height,so when I need it out of the way,I just fold the table with the wheel still on it and put it to the side,I also a very good chair which can also rotate,before I did that(like a year ago)I used a short chair with a pillow to get me higher.
 
I didn't have the pace of Plux or Jonny but had a completely textbook race up to about lap 43 ( no damage, pretty consistent laps). Then I suffered my first of three incidents that would impact my race.

I was catching Tati halfway around the lap to lap her and on the approach to the fast eases I saw oalithgows R10 catching me fast. I moved over to the left to take racing line and he sped past cleanly. But as he tried the same with Tati both cars were already turning in for the Esses, and so with only one line through there they touched and sparks flew as they hit the barriers. I was already committed at full speed to the Esses and as I braked to avoid what I expected to be a two car roadblock, my car snapped severely right and heavily into the Armco. I limped back to the pits for an unscheduled stop which threw my fuel strategy out and lost time.

Then on my lap 47 I had Jonny closing on me to lap me. As we negotiated the hairpin under the flyover for the last turn I anticipated he draft me on the straight and neither of us would loose time. How wrong could I be. The dreaded lag monster struck and halfway down the straight and with Jonny stick showing in my mirrors as about 2 car lengths behind me I suddenly felt and almighty thump from the rear which turned me around and into the Armco while at 150mph. The damage to both cars was huge and we both had a slow full lap back to the pits during which time Adam passed not only passed me for second, but lapped me while I pitted. Jonny apologised in the lobby afterwards but the impact was so great it was clear that this was not his fault. Oh the joys of network gaming!! Grrrrrrr

I did also make one mistake all on my own when I was trying to recalculate my fuel/tyre start on the straight and simply missed my braking point and ploughed into the barrier at turn 1.

Apart from that I really enjoyed the race. The Amuse can be driven with a great rhythm around here but you need maximum concentration because like Monaco, you have no run offs so you KNOW any mistake will be VERY costly. I also found the driving to be clean and fair by all.

Despite only finishing third, with Plux's enforced departure ( RL fire alarm n ident!!) this should mean my points lead in the championship extends considerably.

Bring on round 6
 
I had a bit of a mare lastnight, my Audi seemed to love the walls, I must of visited the pitlane about 20 times for damage :lol:, think my longest run was about 10 laps. It all went wrong for me at the first corner, I spun it on the exit after trying to find a gap to nip past oalith lol, maybe it wasn't the best track for me to jump into the Audi, as it was my first race in this car and only getting time to practice for 30-40mins before qualy started. I'm pretty happy with my fastest lap time of 1.29.7 though, and it was nice to see how the WEC races go from an LMP drivers view (ive only raced in GTE) it was very interesting.

looked like a good race in LMP, shame I couldn't of been up there in the battle, maybe at the next round. I know I said I was going to leave this RS series and concentrate on the main series, but my addiction of GT5/WEC is to big at the moment lol, See you all at the next round 👍
 
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...Despite only finishing third, with Plux's enforced departure ( RL fire alarm n ident!!) this should mean my points lead in the championship extends considerably.

Bring on round 6

Hey you forgot me having to abandon my first move as we exited the hairpin side by side only to discover Richy parked sideways across my lane lol. I will admit I crashed a lot, turns out watching all the contact in a real life endurance race on a street circuit is a surefire way to take lots of damage while driving a street circuit!
 
Avoidng the barriers was key to that race.though I clipped them a few times during the race,I only got damage twice,the 1st time was on lap 26 I think just after I lapped Tati,my tyres were worn so I lost traction and hit the wall at about 70 degrees damaging my right front,luckily that was 2mins away from my 40mins on mediums(that was my 2nd stint,I started on mediums)so I did 1 more lap then came in, on lap 74 I ran wide at turn 1 and tapped the wall,which gave me left front damage,but I held on,pretty much everybody had major damage at one point,but I only had damage on a front corner,noticed memto and oalithgow were nursing a lot of damage in the last few laps,I pushed but I didn't take any risks in traffic as it is quite narrow here,so I sit behind them and pass them down a straight which lost me a few seconds as sometimes I would stay behind for half a lap,quite scary in the last laps as oalithgow was hunting me down but he had moments in traffic and got damage,if he didn't have damage he probably could have got me at the end,I was also very close to running out of fuel at the end too.
 
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Going to have to pull the pin on my tentative registration as I have way too much on at the moment and it is unfair to commit when I am uncertain of when I can race.

Again, apologies to organisers and good luck to all participants in future.

HP
 
Hey you forgot me having to abandon my first move as we exited the hairpin side by side only to discover Richy parked sideways across my lane lol. I will admit I crashed a lot, turns out watching all the contact in a real life endurance race on a street circuit is a surefire way to take lots of damage while driving a street circuit!

Ha yes I remember that. Exiting the final hairpin onto the ramp and you were inside me and suddenly your side of the track completely blocked by Richies R10. I only needed a slight lift of the throttle to squeeze through te gap but I'm guessing you may have needed a pitstop to change your underwear :nervous:
 
Ha yes I remember that. Exiting the final hairpin onto the ramp and you were inside me and suddenly your side of the track completely blocked by Richies R10. I only needed a slight lift of the throttle to squeeze through te gap but I'm guessing you may have needed a pitstop to change your underwear :nervous:

Haha, having rewatched the start, I got the same thing on the exit of turn 1, had to lift off and dip behind Plux as I discover Richy again sideways on my side. Perhaps he's just claiming revenge for suspect passes in WEC proper? ;p
 
I found the end of my race quite ironic. At the exit of the first corner of the race, there was an R10 stopped sideways, and on the exit of the last corner of the race? An R10 stopped sideways! :D
Oalithgow had run out of grip I guess :) I'm excited for the SSR5 race, I really like that circuit.
 
I must admit I'm not a big fan of steet circuits so last nights, SSR5 and Rome are not my faves. I am looking forward to Laguna Seca, Fuji and and Spa though :)
 
I must admit I'm not a big fan of steet circuits so last nights, SSR5 and Rome are not my faves. I am looking forward to Laguna Seca, Fuji and and Spa though :)

I am no fan of Rome either. Laguna will definitely be a highlight for me and I'll see if I can get the Spa DLC so I can race there.
 
hey you forgot me having to abandon my first move as we exited the hairpin side by side only to discover richy parked sideways across my lane lol. I will admit i crashed a lot, turns out watching all the contact in a real life endurance race on a street circuit is a surefire way to take lots of damage while driving a street circuit!

ha yes i remember that. Exiting the final hairpin onto the ramp and you were inside me and suddenly your side of the track completely blocked by richies r10. I only needed a slight lift of the throttle to squeeze through te gap but i'm guessing you may have needed a pitstop to change your underwear :nervous:

haha, having rewatched the start, i got the same thing on the exit of turn 1, had to lift off and dip behind plux as i discover richy again sideways on my side. Perhaps he's just claiming revenge for suspect passes in wec proper? ;p

Sorry about that guy's, like I said I was having a nightmare of a race, think I crashed at every corner on this track lol, when I crash I always look to see if there's any cars coming behind me, if there is I try and leave a gap and park it instead of trying to rejoin and cause another crash, when the track clears then I rejoin, there's nothing worse than somebody else crashing then when they rejoin they wipe another driver out, so I usually stop as you saw.
 
I was pissed for a lot of my race, lol. Lots of crashes. Pitted about 9 or 10 times. Some damage came from really minor grazes that should not have put me out but hey...network physics. In the first full speed lap I crashed in the first of the two right handers before the fast esses in a way that makes absolutely not sense. My car completely veered to the left and into the wall almost as if someone had contacted my left rear fender when nobody had. So start of race I'm already in the pits getting lapped.

Another weird incident that should have put me out of commission was towards the end of the race. Oalithgow was trying to pass but tapped me really hard from the back, put me into the Armco at the right-left switchback, no damage at all. Whew!

On my longest stint without incident, Ninners passed me on the straight but hit the wall after turn one and was sideways on the race line. I plowed right into him. No helping it on either of our ends.

But definitely had hits that were mistakes on my end. Two pits in a row I stopped for damage and immediately crashed on the out lap putting me right back in. It was all bad. Couple that with being 2 seconds off pace from the fastest quali lap and you've got a pretty bad race from me. Wouldn't be surprised if I was several laps down from GTE leader.
 
Don't recall having an incident with you plowing me,the only moment I had with you was when I lapped you then lost the rear on the exit of the corner but that wasn't turn 1,and from the replay,it shows that you didn't hit,unless my connection had an issue that mean't I couldn't see you,but I saw you throughout the race,from my end,hopefully if it did happen on your end it caused no damage I hope,also an interesting pattern I noticed is that LMP cars seems to act like a hover craft and my end sometimes,and the GTE cars are normal,weird.
 
It was towards the middle-end of the race. Right after you had a spin (or maybe just a veer into the wall) at turn 1. I didn't see the actual incident, just you were waiting there right after I hit the apex at turn 1. Maybe I made a mistake and it was someone else?
 
I didn't have any spins during the race, knowing how many times I saw Richy facing the wrong way, I think it may have been him.
 
Sorry about that guy's, like I said I was having a nightmare of a race, think I crashed at every corner on this track lol, when I crash I always look to see if there's any cars coming behind me, if there is I try and leave a gap and park it instead of trying to rejoin and cause another crash, when the track clears then I rejoin, there's nothing worse than somebody else crashing then when they rejoin they wipe another driver out, so I usually stop as you saw.

It's alright, I was just jesting. Everyone was fantastically well behaved I found, apart from me lag-smashing Steve and that dick guy memto bump-drafting me down the start finish ;)

BTW, what did you mean by the prototype - hovercraft comment Ninners?
 
As in the other LMP were at an odd angle at jumping from just infront to 4 car lengths ahead(I had when I was fighting memto at the start)which mades things a bit weird,but with the GTE cars,they were fine,no jumping at all and very smooth.Probaly my stupid connection that caused that.I might just upgrade to get a better online connection,it was fine until mid-June then it started playing up.
 
Sorry to be the barer of bad news, especially before the results are announced, but here are the penalties of Round 4 Tokyo:

Lap 03 - eDirtyTati - white line - 10secs
Lap 10 - RichyB28 - dangerous driving with damage - warning (1)
Lap 11 - RichyB28 - white line - 10secs
Lap 21 - adam46 - white line - 10secs
Lap 27 - Osr20_L - white line - 10secs
Lap 28 - Pluxtheduck - white line - improper conduct - warning (2)
Lap 29 - RichyB28 - white line - 10secs
Lap 34 - memto89 - white line - 10secs
Lap 41 - Osr20_L - white line - 10secs
Lap 41 - adam46 - white line - 10secs
Lap 41 - Osr20_L - eDirtytati - avoidable contact - 60secs (3)
Lap 50 - RichyB28 - white line - 10secs
Lap 52 - eDirtytati - white line - 10secs
Lap 57 - Osr20_L - white line - 10secs
Lap 64 - adam46 - failure to observe blue flags - warning (4)
Lap 66 - jonnyb1990 - white line - 10secs
Lap 67 - adam46 - failure to take avoiding action - warning (5)
Lap 75 - Osr20_L - dangerous rejoin - warning (5)

(1) Placing your all but stationary car straddling the curbing on the apex of a blind corner is not an acceptable line to take through a blind corner. If in doubt move off the racing line and allow cars to pass if you feel unable to control your vehicle.
(2) We understand that real world issues can take priority, however this is what the pause menu is for. In your efforts to avoid losing seconds you instead ruined your own race and came very close to doing the same to others.
(3) Having passed Gadget's car you returned to the racing line to follow Tati, pulling out to pass only once she had already turned into the apex. This was a very poorly executed move, at racing speed there is only one line through this corner. Even if you had remained off-line indicating that you wanted to pass, it was still Tati's corner and since she didn't leave room it is your responsibility to wait.
(4) You weaved unpredictably through the tight sequence of corners towards the end of the lap, including cutting across the nose of the LMP leader into the final hairpin. While it is the responsibility of the LMP car to make a clean pass, it is expected that you take extra care to control your vehicle when racing in close proximity to other cars.
(5) This was a very peculiar incident, since we believe it did not affect the results of the race, neither of you will be penalised, however; Oalithgow, your indecisive flicker of reverse before remaining stationary could have been confusing and Adam, your seemingly complete failure to take avoiding action of any sort resulted in a colision that might have been avoided.

In a slightly removed note, we have noticed a discrepancy with the rules on the OP; the rule for tyre usage should state that once selected, the medium tyre be used continuously for no less then 40 minutes (excluding the pace lap). Since this was not adequately stated, we will not be taking action this round, however please be aware that the rule will be rectified and enforced for Round 5.
 
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No argument from me. I didn't realise he was there until I looked back and he was very close, and I got spooked. I knew that was a penalty from the moment it happened. And yeah last corner I just kind of went "I'm finally finish- WOAH!". Both incidents are my fault of course, still trying to get used to GTP races and multi-class racing. I'll learn.

EDIT: So you have to use the same set of mediums for 40 minutes?
 
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No, you can pit as many times as you wish during this time, but you can only use medium tyres until 40 minutes has passed.

This does not make sense, the explanation given in the penalty post states you should stay on mediums for at least 40 minutes once you have selected them the first time, correct?
 
This does not make sense, the explanation given in the penalty post states you should stay on mediums for at least 40 minutes once you have selected them the first time, correct?

that is what its meant to be, but adam is a new driver and after we looked at the OP we realised that it needs to be rewritten so it becomes more clear.... but yes once you have selected the meds you MUST stay on them for a full 40 mins. so it doesnt matter how many times you pit in for fresh meds you must do 40 mins on them
 
that is what its meant to be, but adam is a new driver and after we looked at the OP we realised that it needs to be rewritten so it becomes more clear.... but yes once you have selected the meds you MUST stay on them for a full 40 mins. so it doesnt matter how many times you pit in for fresh meds you must do 40 mins on them

That's how I read it because otherwise it'd be a nightmare for you guys to police on the replays :sly:
 
Sorry to be the barer of bad news, especially before the results are announced, but here are the penalties of Round 4 Tokyo:

Lap 03 - eDirtyTati - white line - 10secs
Lap 10 - RichyB28 - dangerous driving with damage - warning (1)
Lap 11 - RichyB28 - white line - 10secs
Lap 21 - adam46 - white line - 10secs
Lap 27 - Osr20_L - white line - 10secs
Lap 28 - Pluxtheduck - white line - improper conduct - warning (2)
Lap 29 - RichyB28 - white line - 10secs
Lap 34 - memto89 - white line - 10secs
Lap 41 - Osr20_L - white line - 10secs
Lap 41 - adam46 - white line - 10secs
Lap 41 - Osr20_L - eDirtytati - avoidable contact - 60secs (3)
Lap 50 - RichyB28 - white line - 10secs
Lap 52 - eDirtytati - white line - 10secs
Lap 57 - Osr20_L - white line - 10secs
Lap 64 - adam46 - failure to observe blue flags - warning (4)
Lap 66 - jonnyb1990 - white line - 10secs
Lap 67 - adam46 - failure to take avoiding action - warning (5)
Lap 75 - Osr20_L - dangerous rejoin - warning (5)

(1) Placing your all but stationary car straddling the curbing on the apex of a blind corner is not an acceptable line to take through a blind corner. If in doubt move off the racing line and allow cars to pass if you feel unable to control your vehicle.
(2) We understand that real world issues can take priority, however this is what the pause menu is for. In your efforts to avoid losing seconds you instead ruined your own race and came very close to doing the same to others.
(3) Having passed Gadget's car you returned to the racing line to follow Tati, pulling out to pass only once she had already turned into the apex. This was a very poorly executed move, at racing speed there is only one line through this corner. Even if you had remained off-line indicating that you wanted to pass, it was still Tati's corner and since she didn't leave room it is your responsibility to wait.
(4) You weaved unpredictably through the tight sequence of corners towards the end of the lap, including cutting across the nose of the LMP leader into the final hairpin. While it is the responsibility of the LMP car to make a clean pass, it is expected that you take extra care to control your vehicle when racing in close proximity to other cars.
(5) This was a very peculiar incident, since we believe it did not affect the results of the race, neither of you will be penalised, however; Oalithgow, your indecisive flicker of reverse before remaining stationary could have been confusing and Adam, your seemingly complete failure to take avoiding action of any sort resulted in a colision that might have been avoided.

In a slightly removed note, we have noticed a discrepancy with the rules on the OP; the rule for tyre usage should state that once selected, the medium tyre be used continuously for no less then 40 minutes (excluding the pace lap). Since this was not adequately stated, we will not be taking action this round, however please be aware that the rule will be rectified and enforced for Round 5.

(1) I think I had a lot of damage and my car was uncontrollable, so I couldn't get off the racing line without spinning it, and maybe would of caused a crash if I had tried, would it better to risk a crash or park it? my best plan was to park it imo, I didn't save the replay so I may be completely wrong.


Lap 10 - RichyB28 - dangerous driving with damage - warning (1)

How am I suppose to get the car back to the pits then, I'm sure my Audi R10 don't have wings that come out of the side, should we just quit if we get heavy damage? because my car was undrivable after 1 crash I had, it would not drive straight at all, even at 20mph I was struggling to keep control. can you review this incident please.
 
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