Weight of Ferrari F40 wrong in dealership??.

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Sorry if this has already been brought up, but I just noticed that the weight of the F40 is higher then the weight shown in the Ferrari dealership for the F40. Anyone know whats up with that?.

The dealership shows 1100kg, whilst quicktune shows that at 100% the F40's weight is actually 1352kg.

Or am i going made from grinding that one race to get this car?. :scared:
 
Yeah, it's been disputed many times. People don't know why its much heavier. By the way, how about other cars? lets say the NSX? what is Weight in dealership and in PP setup? If F40 is only car with that, then we need a patch right away
 
The reason is probably a confusion about specs, because the US version had weight added to comply with laws.
Original F40 = 1100Kg
US F40 = 1352Kg

I doubt the rest have such significant mistakes. Hopefully, theyll update it at some point.
 
Some of my other cars.

F430 - QT (1450kg) DS(1450kg)
Z06 -QT(1421kg) DS(1421kg)
M3 - QT(1655kg) DS(1655kg)

QT = QuickTune, DS = DealerShip

Seems like it was a bit of a screw up on PD part, I want my 252kg back. :P

The reason is probably a confusion about specs, because the US version had weight added to comply with laws.
Original F40 = 1100Kg
US F40 = 1352Kg

I doubt the rest have such significant mistakes. Hopefully, theyll update it at some point.

Thank you for that!. Case closed it seems.
 
Sorry if this has already been brought up, but I just noticed that the weight of the F40 is higher then the weight shown in the Ferrari dealership for the F40. Anyone know whats up with that?.

The dealership shows 1100kg, whilst quicktune shows that at 100% the F40's weight is actually 1352kg.

Or am i going made from grinding that one race to get this car?. :scared:

Yup. See below. Personally I am very unhappy about this error. It is not a small error......I won't be so pissed if it is some unknown version of a Skyline GT-R that is only for sale in Mars, but the F40 is an icon of the automobile industry, the legacy of Enzo himself. If there is one car that they need to make it right in this game, it will have to be this car.

Simply put, PD nerfed the F40. Either by mistake or on purpose....

By the way, all the data I gathered for the US-Spec F40 is right out from a US-Spec F40 owners manual I happened to have.

Fact:

1) Ferrari F40 production car curb weight is 1100kg
2) Ferrari F40 US-Spec production car curb weight 1352kg
3) GT5P F40 is NOT a US-Spec car, per visual and showroom weight
4) GT5P F40 is a normal spec car, per showroom weight 1100kg.
5) GT5P F40 in QTS menu shows 1352kg as 100% weight.
6) GT5P had the same discrepancy across all versions.


Q) Could the 252kg difference be added weight like fuel and driver?

A) No, cause the showroom weight and the QTS menu weight is the same for all other cars, except for the F40. Showroom weight is defined as "curb weight" for cars. "curb weight" is defined as "the weight of an automobile with standard equipment and fuel, oil, and coolant".


Q) Could the F40 in GT5P be a US-Spec car?

A) US-spec Ferrari have very distinct visual changes to the original production F40 that are sold in the rest of the world. These visual changes are added body (and some hidden) features to comply with US safety laws. The F40 appeared in the game does not have those visual changes and the showroom clearly stated the weight as 1100kg.


Q) So how does this affect the car in game?

A) It will probably not be an issue if the QTS menu show 1100kg at 100% weight and the showroom data show something else. The problem now is the other way around with the car's 100% weight is 1352kg in the QTS menu. All the numbers appeared in the QTS menu is a "dynamic" part of the game code, hence any changes to it will affect how the car behaves in game. This means the incorrect weight in the QTS menu will have an negative affect on the car's in game behavior. While normally a slight difference in such data discrepancy is normal, however a HUGE 252kg (556lbs) discrepancy will have massive negative impact on the in game experience when using this vehicle.


Solution:

Revise the weight in the QTS menu to CORRECTLY reflect the weight of the production version of the actual F40.

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P.S. Gearing for this car is also incorrect. While the gear ratio does correspond to the actual ratios used in the car, however, the corresponding speed associate to each gear is wrong.
 
P.S. Gearing for this car is also incorrect. While the gear ratio does correspond to the actual ratios used in the car, however, the corresponding speed associate to each gear is wrong.

That's the biggest problem with GT5P's F40. It is frustrating to do time attacks (therefore not being able to change gearing), and having a 3rd gear which goes well above 200km/h!! You only get to use 1st, 2nd and 3rd, with gigantic gaps between them!
 
Definitely in 1st gear. When I stop, press the clutch on the G25 & switch to 1st gear, it take awhile jus to get some active speed.
 
Well, it's not the first time. The Fiat Barchetta in GT4 had the wrong weight and wrong gear ratios. It seems PD are human after all :-)
 
Is there any possibility this will be addressed in the August 1st update? Has this even been brought up to KY? Lets hope they really do look at these forums.
 
This ain't nothing new. The Corvette Z06 has had the mistaken power and driving model pasted from one year-model to the next (GT3-GT4)... the RX8's power in GT4 was pasted straight from the concept... not the production car... the VW GTi and Mitsubishi Eclipse GT V6 have incorrect high gear ratios because the low-level data encoders assigned to fill all the data boxes didn't know squat about converting twin final gear ratios into realistic single final gear ratios... and none of these are cars that "nobody cares about".

Simply put, PD nerfed the F40. Either by mistake or on purpose....

Of course, to imply that it was done on purpose would mean that they specifically went through reams of data to change one tiny number. Simply put... PD makes mistakes in specification... sometimes due to the data provided to them by manufacturers.

Given that: some manufacturers quote HP, some quote kW, some quote PS (while some even quote BS... :lol: ) and that weight ratings are often given as either dry weight (no fluids, no battery), wet weight with fluids and curb weight including a full tank of gas, driver and one or two passengers, I doubt that anybody wants to go to all the trouble of lugging around a set of four scales to weigh every single car they test to make this game... :lol:
 
But that Fiat is not so important as the F40, and GT4 had much more cars ;)

Ha ha !!!! (many more not much more, by the way)

I suppose it's a good sign that we can list the ones they got wrong from memory as it implies they got a lot right.

For the Barchetta it was frustrating because I own one and it's so wrong that it's like driving a different car. At least with the F40 I haven't driven one so it's all theoretical.
 
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