Weight Reduction?

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hi,
Sorry if this has already come up before, I searched but couldn't find anything that answers my question, but I was just wondering if weight reduction makes a noticeable change and if so, what stage would be best to stop at??? I haven't put any weight reduction on any of my cars and i don't really have the credits since i bought the XR8 (stupid thing, i did the Super Speedway enduro 12 TIMES!!! and got every car but that 4 FRICKEN TIMES!!!) so i dont really have the funds to experiment. Thanks for your time - Andrew.
 
Yeah, the weight reducion is really noticeable, you can see it about the acceleration in the car, but if you can push thr car almost to the limits in the turn, you will see it very well.
 
My suggestion, is that lightweight is the first thing you should do to a car. A car's ability to loose tractino, and enter a drift depends on how much weight is on the tires creating friction. By lessening the friction, you're esentially making it easier to keep the back end where you want it.

Now, the other thought line, is that with more weight, it's easier to break the backend loose for the turn. However, the problem with that, is havin gmore weight to control and resulting in a less stable drift.

A famous racer once said "to make a good car a great car, just add less weight"

IF you're looking for a cash outlay, and you can already win the Super Speedway, I suggest you enter the European Amateur series. You've only got to win 4 of the 5 races, and then use the save/reload trick to win the Vertigo. Dump it for the cash, and you're 350,000cr richer in 1/2 hour. Do that a few times and you're set.

AO
 
Sorry AO... But how can you add less weight. I personally view weight reduction in an extremely cautious manner, but then again i dont just drive the cars in gt3 to drift. Weight reduction is unreversable and its effects are extreme in most conditions. I personally avoid weight reduction on already light cars and i am extremely cautious while surpassing stage 2...
 
Its really about simple Physics. F=ma newtons law. force = mass times acceleration. Therefore the amount of force needed to change the accerleration (ie. chage directions, speed up, slow down) decreases when the mass is less. Less weight = better accerlation, turning and breaking. Easy as that.
 
But you can take physics against weight reduction too. The force of friction (amount of friction) = normal force (weight) * coefficient of friction (stickiness). So, if you lose weight, you lose friction, making it easier to slide out in turns, unless you get stickier tires. So, in something that alredy slides too easily, weight reduction may make it simply uncontrollable.
 
Hmmm, my drift car don't get past the Stage 1 weight reduction cause i need the weight to shift using inertia. But my grip car get the full reduction in except to a few.
 
if you know how to tune, you can easily shift the weight of a light car.

you don't need to be heavy to shift weight...
 
I use either 2 or 3 weight reduction, depending on the stock weight of the car. If it's something like a Trueno, I'll only go to 1 or 2...............


;)
 
Originally posted by bengee
Sorry AO... But how can you add less weight.
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That's actually the joke. When thinking of making cars faster, everyone wants to add HP, when in fact, the most noteable upgrade is actually removing weight (hence the play on words).

When you think about it, you can only sling so much weight around a circle. Think of tying a rock on a string. Small rock, means much easier controlled at the same speed as a big rock.

In a drifting car, the point where you break the tires loose, is only a fraction of a second. The point where you need to maintain stability is the length of the drift. Also, all that weight works against you, as the length of the drift, you're keeping the tires from griping, extra weight means your cars will have that much more pressure on the pavement. Hence, lighter cars are better.

Now we take the speed of the drift into consideration. At slower speeds, the less weight means less of a chance of catching traction (so that's why we put sandbags in the back of a truck) Less weight means an easier drift. All things being equal between a heavy and a light car, you can drift a lighter car in a more stable and fluid motion. Result = cleaner, smoother drift.

Through out all my diatribe above, the one thing I'm not touching on is how easily a car breaks loose. While some people are better than others, the added weight will make starting a drift much easier, and make a short drift that much cleaner, as the extra weight helps on the exit with better traction.

So to wrap it all up, a light car will give you a better drift (If you're capable), but a heavier car will be much easier for those that still need some practice.

AO

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Originally posted by Der Alta
WHile some are better than others, the added weight will make starting a drift much easier, and make a short drift that much cleaner, as the extra weight helps on the exit with better traction.

So to wrap it all up, a light car will give you a better drift (If you're capable), but a heavier car will be much easier for those that still need some practice.

AO
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I do believe that that explains the benefits of momentum. But....

Originally posted by Der Alta
Through our all my diatribe above
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What's that? Even if I looked up "diatribe," that still cant make any sense.
 
Originally posted by Purple Platypus
What's that? Even if I looked up "diatribe," that still cant make any sense.
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A prolonged or exhaustive discussion; especially, an acrimonious or invective harangue;

AKA "windbag" AKA a few professors that talked simply to hear themselves talk

;)

AO
 
Ok, so you said "Through our all my big speech above, the one thing I'm not touching on it how easily a car breaks loose." :odd: :confused: Or is it just that I can't read something here... ;)

[edit] OOOOOOOHHHHHHHH You meant through OUT!!! I see now. I can usually read through typos (like touching on IS how.....) but that one just messed me up. My bad :lol:
 
Personally i usually tune suspension, transmission, brakes, LSD and exhaust.... The cars i usually drive are already light enough.
Then again, the weight reduction doesn't help much on heavy american cars or the mercs.

Btw, cheers for the first one to recognize the game from my avatar.
 
The point is weight makes a difference especially in light cars. if you remove 50 lbs from a heavy car and a light car, you will feel it much more in a light car because you are taking away a bigger percent of the weight
 
The reason why i Shy away from gt3 weight reduction is becuase i do not know how it affects the overall weight distribution of the vehicle... We dont know where they take the crap off and uncertanties like this irk the hell out of me...

Other than that i completely agree with AO... The lighter the better as long as balance is maintained. This is why i stick with the light MR cars of the game...
 
Then drive it and find out. All of my race cars, and drifts cars that I tune all get Stage 3 weight reductions and I haven't said any problems, or noticed any imbalance.
 

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