Went to Classic Car auction today, details inside

[Boz Mon]

My neighbor, who is an avid car collector, gave us some passes to a car auction today. He had 3 cars in it, a 1969 Yenko Camaro replica, a 2008 Cadillac XLR, and a brand new, 0 mile Corvette ZR-1. He sold the ZR-1 for like $138k and the other 2 didnt sell. There was 1 other ZR-1 there, not for sale but he did give a ride to another guy who had a ZR-1 at home, he said it did 125mph in 2nd gear and 145mph in 3rd, they didnt even get to 4th. I am not a fan of corvettes, but this is a serious car, its fast. Now onto the shots

Me in the car

Some randoms

The hole in the hood

On the Block

Other cars:

Elanore

Willys/Ford Coupe (I have a huge soft spot for these cars)

Truck (I have a thing for lowered trucks too)

Testarosa

Superbird (one of my all time favorite muscle cars)

One of several Vipers

Long shot of mostly everything

Enjoy and discuss

 

[Barracuda]

I hate Eleanor with a passion, why couldn't they just leave it as a regular GT500.

Other then that, and the dreadful rims on the Willys and truck, some great cars. Looks like it was good fun.

 

[Boz Mon]

Heres some more. I didnt really take that many pictures because there wasnt that many cars that I really really liked.

Tornado

T-Bird (I loooovvveee old T-Birds)

Nuther Superbird

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Question: Why do people like Superbirds? Never understood that one.

 

[Jim Prower]

Superbird (one of my all time favorite muscle cars)

That be a Charger Daytona.

Question: Why do people like Superbirds? Never understood that one.

'cmon, lower Cd than a Prius? I realize the stock versions couldn't do this, (gearing too short,) but NASCAR modified versions did more than 200MPH at Daytona and Talladega...in the '60s...on bias-plies...with basically stock (for Superbirds and Daytonas, anyway) bodywork. If NASCAR hadn't banned them, Ford would've come out with their own version.

And they're rare. and they're '60s Mopars. Put those things together, and you get...expensive.

and they look like nothing else.

and they're awesome.

So there.

 

[Barracuda]

'cmon, lower cd than a prius? I realize the stock versions couldn't do this, (gearing too short,) but nascar modified versions did more than 200mph at daytona and talladega...in the '60s...on bias-plies...with basically stock (for superbirds and daytonas, anyway) bodywork. If nascar hadn't banned them, ford would've come out with their own version.

And they're rare. And they're '60s mopars. Put those things together, and you get...expensive.

And they look like nothing else.

And they're awesome.

So there.

+1

 

[buickgnx88]

That be a Charger Daytona.

The way you can tell which is which just from a glance is the Plymouth has a vinyl roof cover whereas the Dodge doesn't (most of the time). This was because (from what I've read) that Plymouth had such a hard time grafting an aerodynamic window on the rear, they just had a vinyl roof to cover up the bad metalwork. In my opinion though, the Superbird looks much cleaner than the Charger Daytona.

 

[justsomedude666]

The Testarossa kills every car, ever.

 

[Patrik]

'cmon, lower Cd than a Prius? I realize the stock versions couldn't do this, (gearing too short,) but NASCAR modified versions did more than 200MPH at Daytona and Talladega...in the '60s...on bias-plies...with basically stock (for Superbirds and Daytonas, anyway) bodywork. If NASCAR hadn't banned them, Ford would've come out with their own version.

And they're rare. and they're '60s Mopars. Put those things together, and you get...expensive.

and they look like nothing else.

and they're awesome.

So there.

+2

A guy a few miles from here restored a purple(original colour) '70 Charger with white vinyl roof, white leather interior and 426 Hemi into stock condition. I think it had 426 from the factory but not sure if it was matching numbers. He sold it to Germany for like 70.000 euros(about $100.000). That car was sweeeeeet!

 

[Jay]

I hate Eleanor with a passion, why couldn't they just leave it as a regular GT500.

Wow, someone finally besides me that can't stand the Eleanor, way to rape the genuine article.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

'cmon, lower Cd than a Prius? I realize the stock versions couldn't do this, (gearing too short,) but NASCAR modified versions did more than 200MPH at Daytona and Talladega...in the '60s...on bias-plies...with basically stock (for Superbirds and Daytonas, anyway) bodywork. If NASCAR hadn't banned them, Ford would've come out with their own version.

And they're rare. and they're '60s Mopars. Put those things together, and you get...expensive.

and they look like nothing else.

and they're awesome.

So there.

OK, now I get it. I never knew of their aerodynamic abilities. I doubt the road cars did 200mph, they would have run out of gears long before that.

 

[PAPAOSA]

This car ,or it's LOONG body shape has been use in recent times as a 'dragcar' plalform in OZ,It's long nose (RE;run times are timed by the front of car braking the beam at 400M)make a difference...lol>>>>BUT the cars are staged at the "Wheels"(to the beam{light}).....YOU WORK IT OUT....?

 

[Jim Prower]

The way you can tell which is which just from a glance is the Plymouth has a vinyl roof cover whereas the Dodge doesn't (most of the time). This was because (from what I've read) that Plymouth had such a hard time grafting an aerodynamic window on the rear, they just had a vinyl roof to cover up the bad metalwork. In my opinion though, the Superbird looks much cleaner than the Charger Daytona.

Well...not really...

The vinyl roof was an option. I've seen photos of Superbirds...street models...without them. It seems there were more Plymouths with the option than Dodges.

The primary way of telling them apart is in the graphics: The Dodge has a large band around the back, with the word "Daytona" in it, while the Plymouth had black patches on the nose, "Plymouth" in large text along the rear quarter, and a small picture of the Road Runner character holding a helmet on the rear wing.

There are other, subtler differences. The nose, for example: The Daytona's nose is higher, and has a grille right along the point, whereas the Plymouth's nose is lower and has it's grille underneath. The greenhouses are different, too: the Daytona's is significantly altered, flush against the rear line, while the Plymouth already had a virtually flush window. The rear wing is different, too: the Superbird's is further forward, and slightly differently shaped.

 

[Joey D]

Other then that, and the dreadful rims on the Willys and truck, some great cars. Looks like it was good fun.

Look like pretty standard rims that are applied to just about all classic cars these days. I wouldn't be surprised if they were Boyd's.

Question: Why do people like Superbirds? Never understood that one.

I don't know, I see nothing special about the car in fact it looks down right stupid with enormous rear spoiler and goofy front nose cone. Yes, yes it was for aerodynamics but that still doesn't mean I don't think it's ridiculous looking.

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I have a soft spot for the Willy's coupe to for some reason. If I was going to get a classic that would be the one I would want to have...well unless I was given a choice of a lead sled as well.

 

[Cano]

Look like pretty standard rims that are applied to just about all classic cars these days. I wouldn't be surprised if they were Boyd's.



I don't know, I see nothing special about the car in fact it looks down right stupid with enormous rear spoiler and goofy front nose cone. Yes, yes it was for aerodynamics but that still doesn't mean I don't think it's ridiculous looking.

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I have a soft spot for the Willy's coupe to for some reason. If I was going to get a classic that would be the one I would want to have...well unless I was given a choice of a lead sled as well.

There is no Willys coupe in any picture, its a 1941 Ford.

 

[Joey D]

There is no Willys coupe in any picture, its a 1941 Ford.

Whatever all old cars look the same anyways, I was just going by what Boz Man said.

 

[Duke]

Question: Why do people like Superbirds? Never understood that one.

And you claim to be a musclecar fan?

 

[Gil]

Question: Why do people like Superbirds? Never understood that one.

In the event that "because they were freaking cool!" doesn't cut it:

First production car EVER capable of 200 MPH.

This car was the the car that HAD to inspire Truk Nutz, cause no car before or since had that kind of balls to the wall attitude.

May be that car that inspired SpoCom people to put big ass fins on their cars to attempt to be half as cool.

AS far as loving Willys cars and jeeps, I'm not as impressed as I am with a Fiat Topolino with a small block Ford under the hood.

To Boz Man: Loving old T-birds just proves you were raised right!👍

 

[Barracuda]

Look like pretty standard rims that are applied to just about all classic cars these days. I wouldn't be surprised if they were Boyd's.

And? They're still horrible.

 

[Gil]

While those aren't the worst rims I've ever seen, IMHO an old Ford like that almost requires Lake pipes and either a set of Cragar SS rims, or a set of old "moon disk" wheel covers.

 

[Joey D]

And? They're still horrible.

Hate the classic car world, a large group of owners put them on there cars. I think they look a lot better then most stock rims on classics.

 

[buickgnx88]

Well...not really...

The vinyl roof was an option. I've seen photos of Superbirds...street models...without them. It seems there were more Plymouths with the option than Dodges.

The primary way of telling them apart is in the graphics: The Dodge has a large band around the back, with the word "Daytona" in it, while the Plymouth had black patches on the nose, "Plymouth" in large text along the rear quarter, and a small picture of the Road Runner character holding a helmet on the rear wing.

There are other, subtler differences. The nose, for example: The Daytona's nose is higher, and has a grille right along the point, whereas the Plymouth's nose is lower and has it's grille underneath. The greenhouses are different, too: the Daytona's is significantly altered, flush against the rear line, while the Plymouth already had a virtually flush window. The rear wing is different, too: the Superbird's is further forward, and slightly differently shaped.

Yah here's a good page for the 'Bird that has differences between the two.
linky

In addition, there's this line though which is like what I posted earlier:

In addition, Superbirds all had standard vinyl roofs. This was done simply because it was less expensive to fill in the rear plug window with bondo and place a vinyl top over it then leading with a torch and than sanding, which was done on all the Daytonas.

There's also this line from TopSpeed.com

All cars were also fitted with a black vinyl roof, regardless of paint color, to reduce the already labor-intensive time needed for fitting the Superbird-unique body panels.

 

[Barracuda]

Hate the classic car world, a large group of owners put them on there cars. I think they look a lot better then most stock rims on classics.

I don't see how people think they look good, especially the ones on the older ford. Those are the kind of cars I skip at car shows because the owner generally just bought it to make it a show car and really hasn't put any heart and soul into the car.

 

[buickgnx88]

I think there's two main mindsets in terms of older cars. The first is smaller wheels and a more "stock" muscle car feel. The second is larger wheels and a more "custom car" feel. True there are quite a few custom cars made just for show, BUT there are people who buy a perfectly restored muscle car just to bring it to shows and get awards, and like you said, didn't "put any heart and soul into the car".

 

[BayConRong]

ya and most people fall into one of the two groups (you can't not like muscle cars), but they get along most of the time, despite the large difference in ideas:

first group wants to keep the cars the same way they rolled off of the production line

wherease the second group does it the same reason ricer boyz screw up thier cars, with the exception of if you can afford a car like that in the first place you can probably afford to mess with it.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

And you claim to be a musclecar fan?

I'm an Aussie, I'm not going to know every small detail about American muscle cars. As far as I was concerned, yes it was powerful, but it looked silly. Now I know about its aerodynamics.

Realisation: I have never cared about NASCAR, not even looked into it once. Seeing as the road versions were limited by gearing, it's understandable why I never knew about such aspects of the Superbird.

In the event that "because they were freaking cool!" doesn't cut it:

First production car EVER capable of 200 MPH.

I see, so with stock gearing it was capable of 200mph? According to the little book I have here it only reached 140mph in road trim. Dodge had trouble selling them even apparently, and removed the nose cone to sell some as regular Chargers.

I think there's two main mindsets in terms of older cars. The first is smaller wheels and a more "stock" muscle car feel. The second is larger wheels and a more "custom car" feel. True there are quite a few custom cars made just for show, BUT there are people who buy a perfectly restored muscle car just to bring it to shows and get awards, and like you said, didn't "put any heart and soul into the car".

I'll fit in with slightly larger rims, BUT sensibly of course. Something that looks good on the car, not stupidly huge.

 

[Boz Mon]

Everytime I see a Superbird, or Charger Daytona, my dad always goes into this speal about how they couldnt give them away when they were new, and now they are worth a crap ton of money.

 

[Gil]

I see, so with stock gearing it was capable of 200mph? According to the little book I have here it only reached 140mph in road trim. Dodge had trouble selling them even apparently, and removed the nose cone to sell some as regular Chargers.

It's already been noted that with the proper gearing the car would reach 200MPH.

And as I said: "It's just freaking cool" should be enough...

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Everytime I see a Superbird, or Charger Daytona, my dad always goes into this speal about how they couldnt give them away when they were new, and now they are worth a crap ton of money.

Funny how it works like that.

It's already been noted that with the proper gearing the car would reach 200MPH.

And as I said: "It's just freaking cool" should be enough...

A new gearbox/diff is a lot of money to extract that speed............

I'll just accept the terms "they're just freaking cool".

 

[buickgnx88]

Well buying a new gearset for the diff wouldn't actually be alot of money, maybe 500 bucks at most.