What are your opinions on people driving in the USA?

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I got irritated about a driver from California threw a cup of soda at a driver from Oregon, so this got me into the topic why I cannot drive in the United States and stuck on using the steering wheel for racing games.
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My opinion on people driving in the USA is very much a free country. A free country that can let you drive, but still don't know crud about driving etiquette?

Well, like for an example, a person from California and driving in Vegas. When suddenly a person from Vegas horned the person for attempting to change lanes without signaling. The next thing the person knew he/she were flipped off.

Some of you know that California is ranked number 48 as one of the least knowledgeable drivers in the United States. New York is considered worst and Nevada is at 77.1% which is in the C+ range. All states deserved the ratings below B+ according to GMAC's National Driver's test. The highest rank is Idaho at 80.6%. It is still not good enough to get a B+ or higher.

My opinion on people driving in the USA is that people shouldn't drive at all even if they still don't know how or have anger issues. I can't drive here either because the drivers in the United States are driving me crazy. It is hard to drive in the US now and not only for me, but for some of us. Maybe you guys living in the US still can drive, but you guys have to realize that this country did not get a better grade when people driving the real car. If you want worst, the Philippines got you covered, but if you want the best, then we'll have to do research.

The incident between a driver from California and a driver from Oregon felt like Mario Kart Double Dash on steroids. It's not my problem, that's theirs.
 
For the most part I think people in Michigan know how to drive pretty well, albeit we are a tad bit crazy. I've never been anywhere else in the US where several people will drive in excess of 100mph and where the average speed on many motorways is well into the 80's, possibly the 90's. This is not to mention how we drive in the snow either, there could be 4" on the ground and people are still doing 60-70mph on the highway.

Going into any one of the surround states (Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio) and it clear that we do things a bit differently here. I could easily see how someone in another state would think a Michigan driver is insane though.

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I think one of the reasons people in the US don't appear to drive as well to people from other countries is because our driver's training system is surprisingly awful. I think all that was required of me was to drive 40 hours with someone over 21 and take two written tests. Needless to say a week after I got my license I stuffed my Blazer, which was due to the fact I didn't have the proper knowledge on how to avoid the situation that was presented.

Increase the training and you'll eventually see the quality of driving improve.
 
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Sounds like one of those drivers need some anger management... ;)

Not really an issue about bad driving or so...but rather just some patience needed from everyone...

But to refocus on the subject, the first thing i can think of that make Americans bad drivers is:
- they stay on the left most lane on the freeway while driving rather slow...:dopey:
INSTEAD, they should be driving as much as possible on the right lanes
IN ORDER TO leave the left lane EMPTY for those of us who drive faster....

NO ETIQUETTE what so ever !!! and what about those turn signals!!!??? 💡

and those who put high beams on without knowing it...
for thoses people, they must not know anything about their car... :dunce:



Those would be my complains



EDIT: Great Post Joey D, i must agree with you about the driving education Americans receives : which is NONE! compared to what a French person must go through in order to get their permit.
In the State, the test consist and rely principally on Common Sense... which sadly not everyone has it :(
 
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I think people drive fairly well here, sure we have the normal idiots that just act stupid but most are fairly safe. However the highways are horrible during rush hour, I think we are in the top 5 or somewhere close when it comes to congestion.

I have never been in a crash, although if I wasn't paying attention there have been several occurrences where there would have been one.

I do agree with Joey that it is relatively easy to get your license. 1 written test and a drive around with a instructor and your set for life.
 
You guys need to get out more...

Asian drivers are the worst in the world... bar none. Proven fact.

I can't count the number of times people have attempted to sideswipe me... push me out of lane (mirrors rubbing) or have tailgated me so close I could count the driver's cavities in my rear-view mirro.

This isn't to mention the fact that everyone sits in the left lane, makes U-turns in the right lane, counterflows down one way streets... or comes to a dead stop in the middle of a busy highway and backs up when they've missed their turn-off.

And we haven't gotten to the scooters yet... passing on the left when you're in the turning lane, passing on the right when you're about to turn off... and sometimes passing right over you and into the air when they swerve into your lane to overtake.
 
I have to give you that niky, but this tread was probably not meant to be a competition on which population is the worse driver... just your thoughts on American's driving style ;)
 
I think one of the reasons people in the US don't appear to drive as well to people from other countries is because our driver's training system is surprisingly awful. I think all that was required of me was to drive 40 hours with someone over 21 and take two written tests. Needless to say a week after I got my license I stuffed my Blazer, which was due to the fact I didn't have the proper knowledge on how to avoid the situation that was presented.

Increase the training and you'll eventually see the quality of driving improve.

I think that, for whatever reason, the very idea of driving is treated differently in the US. The wide roads (compared to those in Europe), the relatively slow speed limits (again compared to those in Europe), and the near-exclusive use of automatic transmissions combine to result in driving not being taken very seriously. The number of people talking on cellphones, eating in their cars, etc. is evidence of that. I think American culture places so much emphasis on "safety" and easiness, which in this case is the three characteristics of roads and cars that I mentioned, that the result is actually less safety because people feel that they don't need to pay attention. By contrast, Europeans have to treat driving as requiring their full attention because they are driving much closer to the limits of their cars' capabilities, are closer to other cars and pedestrians, and need to actively think about things like shifting. So I'm not so sure that improved training will result in better driving, because current American driving simply doesn't require focus. And if people don't need to focus on something, they will soon learn that they can either zone out or concentrate on something else.
 
I've been to the USA a few times (Buffalo, NY and Orlando, FL) and the drivers therewere fine. Sure, you get the odd moron, but you get that everywhere.
 
I agree that the tests for getting a license is a complete joke. As much as I would hate it, there really should be tests every couple of years to make sure that you're not a complete tool.

Also, I think the reason Joey, Justin and I think that our local drivers are pretty decent is because in the winter, you have to be or you'll be dead. If you can be civil and drive decent in the winter, summer is a breeze. That's not to say there isn't the occasion idiot out there. It's just not nearly as bad as elsewhere.
 
That was the whole point I was trying to make.

Your drivers are fine, aside from the odd moron or two.

Elsewhere... you get more morons.

It's not an "American style" thing unless everyone or nearly everyone does that... so to me, "American driving" equates to long, 80 mph slogs on the freeway... (speeding is an American tradition that I can actually dig) actually signalling turns... not counterflowing recklessly into oncoming traffic... is actually pretty... nice.
 
. . . . although if I wasn't paying attention there have been several occurrences where there would have been one.

Um . . . . no kidding? Not paying attention while driving can lead to crashes?!??!?! Aw, damn!!! :crazy:


Carrying on:

Driving in the US is generally poor because nobody in officialdom gives a whit if you actually know anything about it. It can't be changed because elected officials would have to change it, and no elected official is going to end his career by telling 95% of his constituents that they're not going to be renewed when their license comes up unless they do this or that or the other to actually get some skillz behind the wheel.

In most states, you get a learning permit at 15, where you get to drive with a "real" driver as your passenger, but only during daylight. After a few months you can drive in the dark. At 16, you can "solo" after taking an exam where you demonstrate your skill at parking, backing up, using a stop sign, and going around the block in actual traffic. That is the last driving test you will take for the rest of your life!!!!!!!!! If you renew in person (every 4 to 6 years) you might have to retake a sign recognition test and a simple vision test. Or you can elect to renew by mail (cheaper) and never see any examiner of any kind ever again.

In Driver's Ed they give lip service about keep right except to pass, slower traffic keep right, etc. I've heard people say they don't have to move over because they're not slow, they're doing the speed limit, and they don't see the contradiction there at all. Mostly the left lane people are there because they don't want to be held up in the "slow" lane, and they have no clue what's going on around them. That thing on the windshield is a makeup mirror, not used for anything else.

Wait. Scratch that. It's used to monitor the kids in the back when they get into a "He's touching me!!!!" whiney game. While doing 5 under in the left lane.

When teaching my son to drive, I'd ask him about stuff behind him. If he had to look, or was wrong, I got a quarter. If he was right without taking another look in the mirror, he got a quarter, because he was already paying enough attention to know.

As for improving driver skills and attitudes, until an agency other than the various legislatures becomes responsible for licensing, it isn't going to change. Something similar to the FAA in aviation, but not at the federal level. Driver licenses are a state's pleasure to issue, not the federal government's. (But can you imagine if the FAA renewed pilots by mail, without ever seeing them again for years and years? The airways would be kinda like our highways!)

I have 3 pet peeves with drivers:

1. Locked onto the cruise control. They're passing the truck, but only by .00003 miles per hour, and it's going to take weeks to get by. Mash the damn pedal and go on by. It's allowed!

2. Same cruise-control-lock driver will speed up after they move over, and now they're going as fast as you wanted to go, so you don't pass them, and now you're the jerk blocking the left lane! (Easily solved by mashing the damn pedal and going by.)

2.b. If you're going the same speed as somebody else, do it in the same lane, not next to them.

3. Same cruise-control-lock driver moves over in front of you just as you reach him, because he refuses to tap the brake and disengage so you, going 10mph faster, can play through before he makes his pass. That's not to say I think I'm entitled because I was already there, it's to say how does it hurt to let the obviously quicker traffic go on through instead of holding them up? Besides, he has now forced me into an avoidance of some kind (see rules below.)

4. Approaching a 4-way stop sign from intersecting streets: Other driver arrives well before you, you're obviously slowing down for the stop, and his way is clear. He waits for you to stop, sits another couple of seconds to make sure, then proceeds. He could have gone quite some time earlier and not forced you to wait for that rigamarole.

5. Opposing traffic at a light with no dedicated left turn lane (right turn for you Brits and some Asians): lead vehicle both directions are flashing left turn signals. One goes, the other doesn't, and now he's stuck waiting for a break in traffic and I'm stuck behind him, where if he'd turned simultaneously with the other guy, I'd be clear to go straight ahead.

6. Rather than actually pay attention to cross traffic and the lights while sitting at a red light, the driver in front will "wake up" when the light turns green, then examine the intersection for cross traffic to make sure all is well. Meanwhile half the alloted time for your green light has elapsed and nobody has even entered the intersection, much less cleared it.

7. Entering an intersection you know you can't clear, then blocking cross traffic when their light turns green. You have to be a real ass to say that your 3 minutes waiting for the next cycle is more important than 47 other people who can't take their right-of-way because your fat SUV is sitting across their lane.

OK, so I lied about having three pet peeves.


All you kids learning to drive, here's the rules you need:

1. The windows are made of glass so you can see through them. What is out there (cars, trucks, pedestrians, motorcycles, road signs) is way the {stuff} more important than what's inside the car (radio, phone, conversation, food.)

2. Know everything that's going on around you. That INCLUDES to the sides and the rear! You might be dead in less than 2 seconds if you don't. ALWAYS keep that in mind.

3. YOU are responsible for the lives of everyone you go by, and everyone you carry as a passenger. YOU and YOU ALONE control whether they live or die. If you don't accept that, then let somebody else drive. Really.

4. Driving down the road is not a competition. If someone is going faster, let them by. You'll still have your gonads afterwards. Really. They don't disappear.

5. If someone will have to take avoiding action (including just slowing down) after your planned maneuver, then you don't have room. You're assuming that they're paying attention, and that's a stupid assumption to make. When you kill someone for a shot at gaining two seconds in traffic, you'd better be ready to explain to their family what you had to do that was so important.

There are no other rules that really mean anything. Yeah, red means stop, green means go, but all the rules come down to paying attention and not relying on other people to keep you alive. Simple as that.
 
5. If someone will have to take avoiding action (including just slowing down) after your planned maneuver

On a driving test in Britain, that's an instant fail. You could drive the first 39 minutes and 30 seconds of the 40 minute test perfectly, but if someone has to slow down when you turn back into the test centre, you've got to do it all over again.
 
Going into any one of the surround states (Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio) and it clear...
That you're all frickin' crazy.

No actually I get along with Michigan drivers just fine on the highway. When I go into Kentucky and elsewhere it seems myself and other highway drivers have seriously conflicting interests. It drives me nuts. Must they always change lanes at the same time as me? Must they pass me at such a slow rate that I have to turn my cruise off so I don't run into the slower car in front of me? Must they just be annoying in general? Damn.
 
Considering driving is not the complete free-for-all that it could be (not should be), with all traffic signals and signs ignored, all sorts of intentional collisions caused, we are generally knowledgeable about the rules of the road and basic laws.

The problem lies in a total lack of etiquette, especially in (sub-)urban situations, and the misunderstanding that some "rules" are actually created to improve traffic flow and help other motorists. That, and as stated, some people are overly-occupied with doing too many non-motring things at once when behind the wheel.

For example, in the state of Florida, traffic that makes a turn from the left or right lane onto a multi-lane road (more than 2 lanes in each direction), is supposed to merge onto the desired roadway by using the right-most lane for right turns and the left-most lane for left turns. It's more of a rule, than a law; to put it in other words, the right-of-way goes to the one obeying the rule, after the law has been obeyed by both parties, should they be involved in an accident.

If oncoming traffic understood this rule, then there would be no need to clog up the right lane, unless turning right (or about to do so), when it could allow traffic to merge more easily, and prevent accidents/road rage. The same goes for left-turning traffic at an intersection; it could allow the traffic turning right opposite the intersection to efficiently make their proper right-turn-on-red, and vice-versa. Instead, you get drivers that go any where they want, which creates occasional backups and confusion.

Things like that really bug me: It's the ignorance of situations like that which breaks down the rules of the road, for which the Department of Transportation proliferates this new age of NO TURN ON RED signs for clear intersections which wastes time, gasoline, and creates gridlock. Nobody wins, except the stupid.
 
I think I must have been fairly lucky - in the month I was in the States a couple of years back, we passed through nine States and I don't recall once ever coming across a situation where other drivers were either a danger or even just a nuisance. Perhaps we were lucky, but then in the UK in a three or four mile commute each way to work I'll come across a handful of cars doing something stupid. On a longer journey there could be dozens.

Perhaps we just appreciated the space you guys have on the roads compared to the crowded British roads. Driving in the States was probably some of the most stress-free driving I've ever done. You could pretty much take your pick of the lanes on the highways, many of which were four lanes wide at the least, which is nice when even major roads like the A1 in the UK are two lanes wide for most of their distance and you have to pass on the outside unless traffic is significantly slowed in the passing lane. Rural roads have virtually no traffic at all out there compared to here, and even if you do get stuck behind someone moving really slowly, there's usually more than enough room to pass.

As for cities, sure, they're busier, but I can't even think of a single road in the larger cities we visited out there that had fewer than two lanes in any given direction - all that space was just luxurious. Hell, even a few one-horse towns had wider roads than London does.

Essentially, I can't believe how monumentally bad some of the drivers out there must be if you have that much to complain about, given how blissful your roads themselves are and how much easier it is to drive than it is here...

I've driven in Dubai too. That was fun. It's equally as loopy as you think it'd be from a country where the majority of drivers have only had the money and the road network to even be able to drive in the last 15-20 years. And where the test essentially involves a drive around the block. And where very big and very powerful cars are widely available.

There was a big pile-up last year on a Dubai highway in the fog. Why? Well, when weather conditions out there deteriorate, everybody puts their hazard lights on... and drives at exactly the same pace as they do when it's the middle of the day and 45 degrees C. One person makes a mistake because they can't make out an indicator in all the hazard lights, someone crashes into them, and all of a sudden the rest of the traffic pile in because everyone is doing 85mph when they can barely see the end of their bonnet.
 
You guys need to get out more...

Asian drivers are the worst in the world... bar none. Proven fact.

I can't count the number of times people have attempted to sideswipe me... push me out of lane (mirrors rubbing) or have tailgated me so close I could count the driver's cavities in my rear-view mirro.

This isn't to mention the fact that everyone sits in the left lane, makes U-turns in the right lane, counterflows down one way streets... or comes to a dead stop in the middle of a busy highway and backs up when they've missed their turn-off.

And we haven't gotten to the scooters yet... passing on the left when you're in the turning lane, passing on the right when you're about to turn off... and sometimes passing right over you and into the air when they swerve into your lane to overtake.

Hehe! I can relate. You will also find 3 lane highways turn into 6 lane highways. The first time I took my wife to the Philippines her first comment was "What the hell do they need the dividing lines on the road if they aren't going to use it in the first place. But if you check the statistics the accident count in the Philippines is probably lower than the US. Since people drive crazy there they seem to be alert at what the other guy is going to do. So you could say they are agressive but defensive drivers at the same time.

Now with regards to American drivers. I think it's that American attitude that we like to police the world and we always know whats right. So if the speed limit is 55mph and they are already going over the speed limit and they are in the left "Passing Lane" they will not pull to the next lane to let the guy going faster past. Even if you flash your headlights. It's that attitude that "Hey I'm going fast enough and you shoudn't be driving faster than me" then the more they slow down. Also they tend to pay more attention to traffic signs than what the other car is doing. So if you are in a four way traffic stop sign and you see another car speeding down the intesection and you already made a full stop they won't care to check and see if the other guy is actually going to stop or slow down before they start moving into the intesection. They just feel hey I made my full stop it's my turn to go. But sometimes the other guy just isn't paying attention and BAM!. I live on an Island community in where it's 25mph in the whole Island is pretty much the highest speed allowed and I still see a lot of padestrians and cars running into each other at intersections. :dunce:
 
You guys need to get out more...

Asian drivers are the worst in the world... bar none. Proven fact.

While I would agree with you partially.. But you have some competition.. Here in the bay area we have an insane amount of immigrants from both down south and from eastern Asia. And 90% can't drive worth crap... of coarse I bet a lot of them don't even have licenses.

Here we have annoyingly rich drivers who drive Volvo's (Because they think if they drive something else their whole family will die) so they drive around 10 MPH slower then the speed limit. Or you the older rich folks in their big German cars driving ridiculously slow.. Yes people drive around in 911's going to the country club doing 25 in a 35. Of coarse the Police won't ask them to pick it because "they are being safe." Prius drivers are horrendous here.. I'm not even going to start there... Maybe I should drive around filming 10 minutes of driving here just to see how many complete morons I will run into. California is terrible..

I remember Florida being ridiculously bad from all the trips I went there to visit Ms. Grandma. But that's likely to be the sheer number retired folks.. (Not all of them bad but I'd say a good majority where paranoid as hell.)
 
Up where I'm at, we don't have bad drivers (well we do when winter rolls around, but that's not what I'm getting at), but rather old people. We also have the crappy center turn lane, 'nuff said.
 
Well, I live in California - the land of insane drivers. That being said, I think Americans are generally passable drivers. Not good, not by a long shot, but not horrific either. I don't generally get the impression that drivers are proceeding with complete disregard for me and reckless abandon. I do spot the occasional idiot who is ready to get himself and some unlucky bystander killed, but mostly what holds American drivers back is insecurity and low attention spans.

Insecurity
- Getting waved to go out of turn at a 4-way (I hate this)
- Slamming on the brakes to stop for a lit crosswalk when it is not safe to do so (and impossible for the pedestrian to make it into the crosswalk in time to be hit)
- Turning way way way too slow. This is especially problematic on curly onramps.
- Refusing the gas it on on-ramps so that you can properly merge
- Stopping in traffic to make a turn that could be taken 20 mph faster.
- General lack of understanding of safe vehicle operating speeds and capabilities. Usually this is biased low (eg: assuming your vehicle will blow up if you go over 80 mph). Occasionally this is biased the other way (eg: assuming your vehicle will blow up if you dip below 110) in which case it doesn't qualify as insecurity.

Low Attention Spans
- Swerving due to cell phones, McDonald's, children, maps, books, GPS, radio, or passenger conversations
- Improper lane etiquette
- Improper use of cruise control
- Complacency

There are other problems. But this covers a lot of it. Generally I think many drivers do a reasonable job of not fowling things up. It doesn't take many idiots to cause a traffic jam, but most drivers do a decent job out here. I'd give them a solid B- overall.
 
Driving between Toronto and London Ontario quite frequently, I notice a lot of American drivers heading south/west. That said, most of them are fine—except for the truck drivers. The sedan and coupes are usually just tourists or folks visiting their relatives, but the truck drivers. . .

Well, verbalizing my feelings about American truck drivers would get me banned.

Once, at about 12:30 at night, I saw a truck flooring it up the rear of another driver, forcing him to speed up and get out of his way. The driver was clearly terrified and on the edge of control; the truck was about 4'' from his rear bumper. We were already doing about 70mph, an they were easily 90mph+. I've experienced this kind of aggression from American drivers before—often from Pennsylvania, but again, almost exclusively from truck drivers. The majority I see are from Michigan and they are actually getting passed on the highway quite frequently.

I was in downtown TO the other day actually, and saw an American plated BMW quite competently dealing with the horrible congestion on Bloor St.
 
I got my driving licence in both New York and Florida, and while the tests aren't really that hard, at least there's some sort of test. In Florida I did the whole theoretical + practise tests in less than 24 hours, in New York it took me significantly longer since I had to make an appointment for the driving test and I had to go to that defensive driving crap.

Having driven on major highways across the US I have to say drivers aren't that bad at all. It often would happen that the speed limit was 65 and the guy in the left lane would 65, while the guy in the right lane would go 64.78... so if I was going around 70-75, I had to sit behind the guy in the left lane for at least 45 minutes until he'd overtake the other car. Having said that, I found out there seemed to be a lack of people minding their surroundings when driving. There seem to be so many distractions within the car that the drivers can easily lose sight of what's going on around them.

This is not an issue only having to do with the US, but it was there where I saw most of it.
 
To most Americans, their car is a bubble which carries them where they want to go, and nothing outside the bubble is of any consequence. That's the main problem.
 
I wonder if that's only in Major cities in California. Nevada drivers are somewhat the same in my opinion though it tends to get a bit crazy around the Las Vegas Strip. I hear that in some parts of the Philippines that there will be 4-6 cars in two lanes side by side.
 
Going into any one of the surround states (Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio) and it clear that we do things a bit differently here. I could easily see how someone in another state would think a Michigan driver is insane though.

QFT

Of those you mentioned, I can normally give Illinois drivers the pass. Californian drivers typically don't bother me, same with Florida, likely because they drive fairly similarly to us up here.

What irks me is when people don't know where they're going. That's why someone else reads the map, holds the GPS unit, and the driver... You know, drives. Its not like roads are tragically different all across our country, much of the territory west of the Appalacians are laid out on a grid. Why people can't figure out basic directions I've yet to understand.
 
One thing that really used to annoy me was the speed limit in NY State (55). I went to college in Buffalo, NY and when we'd take roadtrips, getting in and out of NY State was so boring.

Michigan had 70, which was probably the highest, except for some 75 mph zones. I once overtook a guy in NY State while doing about 80 and the driver of the other car flashed me his high beams, honked the horn and did all kinds of stupid gestures out the window.
 
While I would agree with you partially.. But you have some competition.. Here in the bay area we have an insane amount of immigrants from both down south and from eastern Asia. And 90% can't drive worth crap... of coarse I bet a lot of them don't even have licenses.

Here we have annoyingly rich drivers who drive Volvo's (Because they think if they drive something else their whole family will die) so they drive around 10 MPH slower then the speed limit. Or you the older rich folks in their big German cars driving ridiculously slow.. Yes people drive around in 911's going to the country club doing 25 in a 35. Of coarse the Police won't ask them to pick it because "they are being safe." Prius drivers are horrendous here.. I'm not even going to start there... Maybe I should drive around filming 10 minutes of driving here just to see how many complete morons I will run into. California is terrible..

I remember Florida being ridiculously bad from all the trips I went there to visit Ms. Grandma. But that's likely to be the sheer number retired folks.. (Not all of them bad but I'd say a good majority where paranoid as hell.)

The Prius drivers deserve a whole thread dedicated to their fail-ness at driving. Here in the northern bay area (above Marin) everyone seems to be fine, except for the occasional moron, which is common I guess. I can relate to all of the slower older drivers, mostly in their German cars, an mostly on 101 south. Ive noticed a lot of people have stopped using the turn signals all together. Do they not work? People drifting from lane to lane without notice is all to common here.

NOTE: If you plan on driving in Bay area in CA, Look out for tourist and people in Hummers; they have no idea that you exist. There is a good chance that they are going to not see you. Also, if you see someone who is texting and driving, lay on your horn.
 
Also, if you see someone who is texting and driving, lay on your horn.

I suggest less beep-beep and more crash-crash. In other words: Start overtaking them, then BAM! a good fast punt. If they crash, stop and say "I suddenly had to sneeze and I lost control for a second".
 
Florida is generally okay, but people really like to gun it from stops and goes. It's hard to hypermile because people will merge in front of you and hop on the brakes when you're just trying to coast to the red light while waiting for it to change. But, yeah, it's a good thing it doesn't snow and there aren't any hills here. You can really tell by how people drive.

Also, lane discipline on highways is not always so great. It's not like German highways.

Truck drivers are usually real conservative but there are a few that haul ass like no tomorrow. I was alongside a dump truck on the way to school today that was just hauling total ass... probably late for a delivery. Oh, and then there are cement mixers but they are rarely dumb enough to face the risk of not delivering their load before it dries up in the drum.

Arkansas is pretty different though. Everyone there drafts each other and does like 100mph minimum. It's like Nascar. Traffic is like nothing most of the time, however.
 
I'd have to say it's pretty bad, if not scary some times.

Around where I live, people are horrible drivers. Cutting off motorcycles, no move out of the passing lane because I'm approaching you, can't stop on yellow, sure as hell gunning it at red, pulling out with the whole car past the white line at a stop sign, so when you have to turn, you need to do it like your driving a Mack truck. Then there are texters, talkers and eaters who don't pay any attention, crossing lanes, waiting till the last second to turn when they could have been in the right lane for turning or signaled way before. And the scooter-ers, just last night, there was one ahead of me in traffic coming home, he went from the inside of a left two lane turn, cut off a car to get to the outside, mind you we just left the stop light. Then I got over and passed him, even though he was trying to take up the whole lane, wearing what looked like Bose noise canceling headphones. I stopped at the next light as it turned red, not him, he just kept going, then he made the next left into a neighborhood, INFRONT of an oncoming car, which I thought was about to cleanse the gene pool a little bit. However the car missed, by maybe 10 feet, the guy never noticed... That's just a small amount of complaints though, I'm sure it's similar elsewhere.

I was driving to Mississippi, everything was fine all the way down I-10, untill I went across the Alabama border... Wow, is it Talladega EVERY day? It was crazy at first, random lane changes and what not. THEN I was crossing the causeway over Mobile Bay, I don't know how "the big one" didn't happen, I was doing 10 above the speed limit (60 maybe?) then an Escalade on 24's came blasting by and cut across my bumper, zig zagged around cars in front of me, people were jamming brakes, doing all kinds of things, I was reallllly unhappy to say the least. That was not the only car to do that to me. Then, I left Alabama, it all stopped, everything was back to normal. Very weird.

I'm sure some of it has to do with people lack of respect for other people and thinking they are they only ones even in the world. Mostly, it's the lack of driver training, to get my license, I just took the test, I waited to long for drivers ED (not even useful) so I just got my license when I was 18, it would have been pointless for a permit. But I was on the road, could have been death on 4 wheels, but who cares right? I was fine though, I can't speak for everyone though, we obviously have problems. I really think it all needs to be looked at, strict driving standards need to be put into place, with extensive driver training to happen before that. I know that all costs a lot of money people won't want to pay, but it would alleviate much of the crazys on the roads, or at least help curb the problem.
 

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