What do the Japanese think of GT5?
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- zedextreme8177
I think the general consensus everywhere, is that the game could've been much better.
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- ham_vet001
But Japanese gamers have different needs to Western gamers, right? So there might be a chance that they're happier with the game than we are.
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I think everyone basically feels the same regardless of country. 50 miatas.... Overkill.
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- GeneralJesh
Feeder - Just a Day in GT3 was nice
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- neema_t
I often wonder this too. Well, when I say often I mean, I have wondered about this once. If you play any number of Japanese games then western ones you'll see a massive difference and GT5 is Japanese through and through, right down to the part where it expects you to know how things work without ever explaining it properly (this was more or less my experience of JRPG's, though I only really ever played Front Mission 3 and about half an hour of FFVII).
Of course, i wouldn't exactly be surprised if Japanese gamers liked a Japanese-made game more than westerners do, I mean even without a massive imbalance in the ratio of Japanese to non-Japanese cars that exists (I think over half the premiums are Japanese, I think) there's the whole massive cultural differences thing. Things like menu layout, UI, typography, though none of those are exactly offensive to me, but there are one or two things that bug me slightly that may not even register to a Japanese player because they might be conventional oversights, i.e. something that may not be correct, but it's always been the way so no one cares. I'm way too tired (it's 3am here now) to give examples, though... Recently, though, I think it was just after the Tokyo Games Show, some Japanese producers did come out and say that Japan's game industry really needs to get it's act together or get made redundant by the western developers, and that really rings true when you compare GT5's online section to more or less any other racing game. The standard/premium car thing I can forgive because the standards handle as well as premiums do, but the online section works about as well as games back in 2001 did... For me, anyway.
In terms of the actual game, though, as in actually driving a car on a track, I'm not sure how the Japanese and western experience can really differ.
Of course, i wouldn't exactly be surprised if Japanese gamers liked a Japanese-made game more than westerners do, I mean even without a massive imbalance in the ratio of Japanese to non-Japanese cars that exists (I think over half the premiums are Japanese, I think) there's the whole massive cultural differences thing. Things like menu layout, UI, typography, though none of those are exactly offensive to me, but there are one or two things that bug me slightly that may not even register to a Japanese player because they might be conventional oversights, i.e. something that may not be correct, but it's always been the way so no one cares. I'm way too tired (it's 3am here now) to give examples, though... Recently, though, I think it was just after the Tokyo Games Show, some Japanese producers did come out and say that Japan's game industry really needs to get it's act together or get made redundant by the western developers, and that really rings true when you compare GT5's online section to more or less any other racing game. The standard/premium car thing I can forgive because the standards handle as well as premiums do, but the online section works about as well as games back in 2001 did... For me, anyway.
In terms of the actual game, though, as in actually driving a car on a track, I'm not sure how the Japanese and western experience can really differ.
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If they worship the game thats sad, because it could make some real big improvements in the AI department, along with having more road to race on. This is an 8/10 game that took 6 years to develop.
They need open highway racing, because having 1,000 cars boils down to where you can drive them. If I'm logging hundreds of laps at the Nurburgring, de Sarthe, or some street circuit thats boring. Its like climbing on a Different Merry Go Round every day. Yes Tuscany Rally was interesting, but it was limited to short 1-7 minute long stages that couldnt have been more than 8-9 miles at a time tops. In the next decade people are going to want to race across Siberia for example, or from coast to coast in America. Its fun to hit it for longer periods on real roads. The Dakar Rally is a super cool race, being able to drop down 5,000 feet in the desert to the coast would sell a lot of copies.
The future of all videogame racing is being able to drive anywhere. The systems need more power, but thats where it'll be at 10 years down the road imo.
They need open highway racing, because having 1,000 cars boils down to where you can drive them. If I'm logging hundreds of laps at the Nurburgring, de Sarthe, or some street circuit thats boring. Its like climbing on a Different Merry Go Round every day. Yes Tuscany Rally was interesting, but it was limited to short 1-7 minute long stages that couldnt have been more than 8-9 miles at a time tops. In the next decade people are going to want to race across Siberia for example, or from coast to coast in America. Its fun to hit it for longer periods on real roads. The Dakar Rally is a super cool race, being able to drop down 5,000 feet in the desert to the coast would sell a lot of copies.
The future of all videogame racing is being able to drive anywhere. The systems need more power, but thats where it'll be at 10 years down the road imo.
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- xNEVER-ONEx
I think everyone was disappointed with GT5 to a certain extent. Was the game over hyped, yes, but usually when a game is hyped this much, there is reasoning behind it. Lengthy development cycle, an astronomical budget, and, large amounts of content and steller graphics all pointed to arguably one of the greatest games ever.
I think what people forget is that GT5 is a console game. Despite being a sim racer, it does not get treated like an PC sim racer gets. There are essentially 2 major parts to the game, the driving part, and the gaming part. GT5 is a great driving game, but a sub-par game. The ambitions were too high, the promises were too many, and in the end, GT5 tried to do too much at the same time, and so what we ended up with was a lot of quantity, but barely any quality.
I mean look at the various aspects of the game. On paper, GT life is huge. A-spec, B-spec, licenses, Special events and an online portion. But A-spec is too short, B-spec has become infamously unliked and is essentially A-spec races rehashed with restrictions. Special events are unique, but there are only 8 challenges. License sort of lost their meaning in this game. Most shockingly, the online is missing many many industry standard features, and basically more like a beta than a finished product.
The car customization is severely limited. Only 17 cars get the RM. There is too much inconsistency in the game. The premiums look great, the standards look like they should have remained on the PS2. The standard/premium problem is more than just visuals, as standards lack interior views, can't be customized to the level of premiums, can't go to photo travel.
I could go on and on...........
I think what people forget is that GT5 is a console game. Despite being a sim racer, it does not get treated like an PC sim racer gets. There are essentially 2 major parts to the game, the driving part, and the gaming part. GT5 is a great driving game, but a sub-par game. The ambitions were too high, the promises were too many, and in the end, GT5 tried to do too much at the same time, and so what we ended up with was a lot of quantity, but barely any quality.
I mean look at the various aspects of the game. On paper, GT life is huge. A-spec, B-spec, licenses, Special events and an online portion. But A-spec is too short, B-spec has become infamously unliked and is essentially A-spec races rehashed with restrictions. Special events are unique, but there are only 8 challenges. License sort of lost their meaning in this game. Most shockingly, the online is missing many many industry standard features, and basically more like a beta than a finished product.
The car customization is severely limited. Only 17 cars get the RM. There is too much inconsistency in the game. The premiums look great, the standards look like they should have remained on the PS2. The standard/premium problem is more than just visuals, as standards lack interior views, can't be customized to the level of premiums, can't go to photo travel.
I could go on and on...........
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- iJDM808
I don't speak for all of us but just like any other gamer around the world, there isn't one 'specific' type of gamer stereotype per country. With a lot of games being online, the whole world is connected, challenging each other and learning from each other.
The reception here is just the same as around the world - car nuts like it (of course wishing for more) and casual gamers usually pass on it. Just because we're Japanese does not mean we do not like European cars or American cars and wish for more. It may hit home for lots of gamers here because we own these cars, but it doesn't take away from that we all enjoy the game (not car selection) just as much as players in the UK or players in Australia. Aside from the car selection, most gamers (at least the numerous Japanese players I've connected with and talked to online/face-to-face) is there is room for improvement (e.g. more premium cars), improving on the graphics, better online lobby restriction/quering. If you ask me to put it on a scale of 1-10, it's at the very least, 7.5, an 8 right now.
I just know that there is far more GT coverage here (e.g. last last weekend's GT booth at TAS '11).
I don't even know what is the point of this question? It's not like we're different humans or something. Sorry if I misunderstood the question.
The reception here is just the same as around the world - car nuts like it (of course wishing for more) and casual gamers usually pass on it. Just because we're Japanese does not mean we do not like European cars or American cars and wish for more. It may hit home for lots of gamers here because we own these cars, but it doesn't take away from that we all enjoy the game (not car selection) just as much as players in the UK or players in Australia. Aside from the car selection, most gamers (at least the numerous Japanese players I've connected with and talked to online/face-to-face) is there is room for improvement (e.g. more premium cars), improving on the graphics, better online lobby restriction/quering. If you ask me to put it on a scale of 1-10, it's at the very least, 7.5, an 8 right now.
I just know that there is far more GT coverage here (e.g. last last weekend's GT booth at TAS '11).
I don't even know what is the point of this question? It's not like we're different humans or something. Sorry if I misunderstood the question.
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I'm sure I probably played one of the old GT games that were on the old school PS systems when they first started using discs, but I wasn't really into racing games back then. So GT5 has been my first real racing game since I rented Forza 2 and didn't really get too excited about it. That being said, I love this game to death. If they could really implement some more in-depthness to the online experience it might be my favorite game ever. COD4 in its prime is almost unbeatable for me, but I just spent over 6 hours tuning one car to get it just right and I loved every second of it.
I'm pretty sure I'll be able to drive the Nordschleife when I get to heaven.
I'm pretty sure I'll be able to drive the Nordschleife when I get to heaven.
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Famitsu GT5 score:
Gran Turismo 5 (PS3) – 9/9/9/10 > 37/40
Scored better than Castelvania in the same issue. It is a great score BTW and when Famitsu gives 37 it means game will appeal to majority of Japanese players.
Interesting is that Prologue scored even better in 2007, it got 39/40.
Gran Turismo 5 (PS3) – 9/9/9/10 > 37/40
Scored better than Castelvania in the same issue. It is a great score BTW and when Famitsu gives 37 it means game will appeal to majority of Japanese players.
Interesting is that Prologue scored even better in 2007, it got 39/40.
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- brycepunk1
I agree wholly with what Rich S said. And it is why once Test Drive Unlimited 2 comes out I have a feeling GT5 will collect dust in my collection. I can only go around the same track so many times before the boredom sets in... and seeing as how most of the tracks I was already kind of bored with from GT4 (and 3, 2, 1) and the tuning options are not too great and the AI... never mind. That's all been said.
I think if GT had nice long point to point races/drives (between 5-30+ miles) I'd be really happy. But they don't, and I don't see myself playing GT5 for the lengths I played earlier installments for, trying to shave 0.08 seconds from the High Speed Ring.
I think if GT had nice long point to point races/drives (between 5-30+ miles) I'd be really happy. But they don't, and I don't see myself playing GT5 for the lengths I played earlier installments for, trying to shave 0.08 seconds from the High Speed Ring.
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I hope they think the same as me: Give more tracks or accept that i don't play GT5 anymore within a month or so.
I'm fed up with the same races (unbalanced, and repetitive) on the same tracks.
GT5 has 1000+ cars but only gives us a handfull of tracks to try them on. How unbalanced is that content wise.
I would love to give 600 cars up for a few new challenging tracks.
And yes 15 corvettes or so, but that includes different models (visually). The 50 or so Mx-5 actually almost look identical. Who cares if it's (NA), Miata, Miata 1.2, Miata 1.3 etc...
The physics and actual driving in GT5 is great but overall as a game i rate it at 6/10
I'm fed up with the same races (unbalanced, and repetitive) on the same tracks.
GT5 has 1000+ cars but only gives us a handfull of tracks to try them on. How unbalanced is that content wise.
I would love to give 600 cars up for a few new challenging tracks.
And yes 15 corvettes or so, but that includes different models (visually). The 50 or so Mx-5 actually almost look identical. Who cares if it's (NA), Miata, Miata 1.2, Miata 1.3 etc...
The physics and actual driving in GT5 is great but overall as a game i rate it at 6/10
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That confused me for all of 10 mins as i was sure I remember Feeder. Found it anyway, then noticed you posted the Japanese version.
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He can, it all bows down to personal preference.
While some of us distinct the difference of so-called "arcade races" and "simulation races", majority of players see them all as basically "racing games".
You can't force the difference to anyone, because it all caters down to subjective perception of particular game/genre.
While many would argue in this matter until sun freezes, the foundation is pretty simple: you drive cars on tracks (roads) and so it is basically the same form.
You can argue about the substance and ways to portray and display the form, but the form does not change. Thus his perception is 100% valid.
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nipponj
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I am not racist or anything but Japan is a very Homogeneous Society, the Japanese gamers will love this game no matter how in-complete it is. No matter how much you think they wil NEVER listen to your ideas and implement them in the game. After 6 years of waiting, most of what we the fans expected were not in the game.Where is Twin Ring Motegi ( a VERY famous Japanese course), Infineon Raceway or even some of the tracks from GT1 and GT2? Racing on Circuit de la Sarthe over and over VERY is a boring IMO. GT4 is way better. I will probably play when there are GT5 some good updates.
P.S: Why arn`t the Logitech G27 Racing wheel settings available in the settings menu, but its compatible with the game?
P.S: Why arn`t the Logitech G27 Racing wheel settings available in the settings menu, but its compatible with the game?
