What Racing Games Are Better than GT5?

[Jedikoolaid99]

Gt3

 

[UNPLISHED]

FM4, & NFS Shift 2 why? Because they have Porsche.

No but that's not the only reason FM4, it may not have weather or night races, but it does have rivals mode which is very fun too me at least.

NFS Shift 2 is challenging and aggressive not a real simulator but in some ways you get that simulation feel and the game draws you in.

But GT5 is also fun it has a welcoming feel to it. To me all 3 games are equal they all have their pros and cons.

 

[mikecustom]

FM4, & NFS Shift 2 why? Because they have Porsche.

No but that's not the only reason FM4, it may not have weather or night races, but it does have rivals mode which is very fun too me at least.

NFS Shift 2 is challenging and aggressive not a real simulator but in some ways you get that simulation feel and the game draws you in.

But GT5 is also fun it has a welcoming feel to it. To me all 3 games are equal they all have their pros and cons.

also, both games (Forza, NFS) have better engine sounds, better damage model, better car selection, better customization, better career modes, better graphics, better AI (shift's being the best) and even better DLC, but I'd say Forza is the winner this generation by far, i dont think GT6 will beat Forza 5, Turn 10 is a long way ahead PD,

maybe Project C.A.R.S will be able to beat Forza but we'll have to wait and see

 

[coolboy48]

I'm sure it has been mentioned many times but....

Enthusia anyone?

Apart from a lack of aerodynamic drag (170 mph stock Mazda6!) and maybe a bit too much traction off the line going straight (pad controller assist?), it still feels right somehow.

Cars looked as good and as accurate as GT4, presense of interesting matchups like a Touareg vs a Legacy wagon, proper donuts and automatics, the ability to do a dakar style quick race in a SLR.....

Imagine if we had a super Oriental racing game with the combined strengths of both.

If only someone would sponsor me MorzaFotorsports 4, all the DLC, a decent wheel and the console so I could try it out.

 

[CJSpencer77]

The only other racing sim im looking at atm is Project Cars , ive payed my 50 euros and play the weekly builds to watch the progress, P cars definatly has a lot of potential and seems to be leaning to the simulation side of things quite a lot, but atm is only on PC although the developers are saying it will be coming to Playstation.

 

[Sampyla20plus]

also, both games (Forza, NFS) have better engine sounds, better damage model, better car selection, better customization, better career modes, better graphics, better AI (shift's being the best) and even better DLC, but I'd say Forza is the winner this generation by far, i dont think GT6 will beat Forza 5, Turn 10 is a long way ahead PD,

maybe Project C.A.R.S will be able to beat Forza but we'll have to wait and see

FM4's Sounds = Over-exaggarated to even sound like the real cars, if I'm honest.

Damage model = Well, if you like more Pre-made impact points than actual real time based, then it's only about a choice, oh and FM4 doesnt have windscreen modelled at all from the cockpit and is invincible and it doesnt have chassis damage.

Car Selection = This is true, but ONLY if you bought the DLC, without those, the list is almost identical with FM3 (without the Porsche)

Career = FM4 is identical with the FM3's career, almost, they took away the endurance races due to the lack of fuel consumption which is made all wrong in FM series.

Graphics = Only blind person can really say FM4 looks better than GT5, cant fool anyone who actually has both.

AI = in FM4 it is certain that AI will ram onto the player car whenever player is braking at the corner, these dont care are you there or not.

Better DLC = Depends, FM4 has received any new track at all, and only DLC cars are really interesting but there is some cars I personally dont understand at all, Jackson's Charger for example.

T10 ahead of PD = IF T10 can ever create tracks, surfaces or cars right then it could happen, but I doubt that will happen before FM X appears.

Sam, owner of the both games.

 

[locoman88]

FM4's Sounds = Over-exaggarated to even sound like the real cars, if I'm honest.

Damage model = Well, if you like more Pre-made impact points than actual real time based, then it's only about a choice, oh and FM4 doesnt have windscreen modelled at all from the cockpit and is invincible and it doesnt have chassis damage.

Car Selection = This is true, but ONLY if you bought the DLC, without those, the list is almost identical with FM3 (without the Porsche)

Career = FM4 is identical with the FM3's career, almost, they took away the endurance races due to the lack of fuel consumption which is made all wrong in FM series.

Graphics = Only blind person can really say FM4 looks better than GT5, cant fool anyone who actually has both.

AI = in FM4 it is certain that AI will ram onto the player car whenever player is braking at the corner, these dont care are you there or not.

Better DLC = Depends, FM4 has received any new track at all, and only DLC cars are really interesting but there is some cars I personally dont understand at all, Jackson's Charger for example.

T10 ahead of PD = IF T10 can ever create tracks, surfaces or cars right then it could happen, but I doubt that will happen before FM X appears.

Sam, owner of the both games.

I completeley agree with the ai espcially

 

[Tornado]

FM4's Sounds = Over-exaggarated to even sound like the real cars, if I'm honest.

Damage model = Well, if you like more Pre-made impact points than actual real time based, then it's only about a choice, oh and FM4 doesnt have windscreen modelled at all from the cockpit and is invincible and it doesnt have chassis damage.

Car Selection = This is true, but ONLY if you bought the DLC, without those, the list is almost identical with FM3 (without the Porsche)

Career = FM4 is identical with the FM3's career, almost, they took away the endurance races due to the lack of fuel consumption which is made all wrong in FM series.

Graphics = Only blind person can really say FM4 looks better than GT5, cant fool anyone who actually has both.

AI = in FM4 it is certain that AI will ram onto the player car whenever player is braking at the corner, these dont care are you there or not.

Better DLC = Depends, FM4 has received any new track at all, and only DLC cars are really interesting but there is some cars I personally dont understand at all, Jackson's Charger for example.

T10 ahead of PD = IF T10 can ever create tracks, surfaces or cars right then it could happen, but I doubt that will happen before FM X appears.

Sam, owner of the both games.

People still bother typing out these cliches?




I'll link you to this anyway, though. Have at it.

 

[Sampyla20plus]

People still bother typing out these cliches?

I'm sorry, didnt mean to hurt anyone by my comment, I just bringed up something I've encountered while playing the FM4 personally.
I take it that you dont like it when someone goes for the idiotic VS comments and because we got a surveillance agents over the internet, you are showing me my place and I should shut myself up, right ?

 

[mikecustom]

FM4's Sounds = Over-exaggarated to even sound like the real cars, if I'm honest.

Damage model = Well, if you like more Pre-made impact points than actual real time based, then it's only about a choice, oh and FM4 doesnt have windscreen modelled at all from the cockpit and is invincible and it doesnt have chassis damage.

Car Selection = This is true, but ONLY if you bought the DLC, without those, the list is almost identical with FM3 (without the Porsche)

Career = FM4 is identical with the FM3's career, almost, they took away the endurance races due to the lack of fuel consumption which is made all wrong in FM series.

Graphics = Only blind person can really say FM4 looks better than GT5, cant fool anyone who actually has both.

AI = in FM4 it is certain that AI will ram onto the player car whenever player is braking at the corner, these dont care are you there or not.

Better DLC = Depends, FM4 has received any new track at all, and only DLC cars are really interesting but there is some cars I personally dont understand at all, Jackson's Charger for example.

T10 ahead of PD = IF T10 can ever create tracks, surfaces or cars right then it could happen, but I doubt that will happen before FM X appears.

Sam, owner of the both games.

graphics are inconsistent in gt5, thats why shift 2 and forza 4 look better, have you forgotten the standard cars? or standard tracks? jagged shadows? pixelated smoke? pixelated reflections? low res weather? 2d backgrounds?

DLC is better in shift 2 because with just 2 packs (legends, speedhunters) they added 30+ cars,(15 tuned versions of already existing ones and 15+ new legendary cars) they added 7 new tracks (i think) 5-ish tracks from 50s-60s and 3 drag strips with full mile configurations and also 2 more championships to the career mode, drag and classics championships,

Forza is quite obvious, they've added like 100 new cars all the same level of detail

Sounds, i prefer exaggerated sounds than horrid unaccurate and electronic ones,

Damage, are you kidding? you must be the only person that thinks damage model in GT5 is good

Career, guess what? we've been playing the same events since GT2

AI, ok, maybe i went too far, but there's no denying that Shift's is one of the best i've ever seen, it's so agressive that you don't even need to play online


Turn 10 has murdered PD to a point that considering PD being off the GT franchise is reasonable, after all, its Sony's game and i think they should get rid off PD or at least make them outsource some work

 

[Tornado]

I take it that you dont like it when someone goes for the idiotic VS comments and because we got a surveillance agents over the internet, you are showing me my place and I should shut myself up, right ?

Not at all. I was simply pointing out that if you want to type out the typical tired responses of questionable accuracy telling people why they shouldn't prefer the Forza games to GT5, feel free to post them in either of the threads dedicated to doing so rather than arguing with people to just turn this into another Forza vs. GT5 thread.

 

[ch3ng]

Not at all. I was simply pointing out that if you want to type out typical tired responses of questionable accuracy telling people why they shouldn't prefer the Forza games to GT5, feel free to post them in either of the threads dedicated to doing so rather than attempting to just turn this into another Forza vs. GT5 thread.

This. 👍

I apologize but this is to funny

Car Selection = This is true, but ONLY if you bought the DLC, without those, the list is almost identical with FM3 (without the Porsche)

What? Is this an argument? You want to compare GT with Forza and after you didn't find a good argument you just compare Forza with Forza to search for a point of critique?

You did something near it with the sound.

But i agree with Toronado this is not a Forza vs GT Thread. And the thread is about which racing game is better in your opinion.

 

[locoman88]

graphics are inconsistent in gt5, thats why shift 2 and forza 4 look better, have you forgotten the standard cars? or standard tracks? jagged shadows? pixelated smoke? pixelated reflections? low res weather? 2d backgrounds?

DLC is better in shift 2 because with just 2 packs (legends, speedhunters) they added 30+ cars,(15 tuned versions of already existing ones and 15+ new legendary cars) they added 7 new tracks (i think) 5-ish tracks from 50s-60s and 3 drag strips with full mile configurations and also 2 more championships to the career mode, drag and classics championships,

Forza is quite obvious, they've added like 100 new cars all the same level of detail

Sounds, i prefer exaggerated sounds than horrid unaccurate and electronic ones,

Damage, are you kidding? you must be the only person that thinks damage model in GT5 is good

Career, guess what? we've been playing the same events since GT2

AI, ok, maybe i went too far, but there's no denying that Shift's is one of the best i've ever seen, it's so agressive that you don't even need to play online

Turn 10 has murdered PD to a point that considering PD being off the GT franchise is reasonable, after all, its Sony's game and i think they should get rid off PD or at least make them outsource some work

Shift 2 has drag strip?

 

[Sampyla20plus]

graphics are inconsistent in gt5, thats why shift 2 and forza 4 look better, have you forgotten the standard cars? or standard tracks? jagged shadows? pixelated smoke? pixelated reflections? low res weather? 2d backgrounds?

DLC is better in shift 2 because with just 2 packs (legends, speedhunters) they added 30+ cars,(15 tuned versions of already existing ones and 15+ new legendary cars) they added 7 new tracks (i think) 5-ish tracks from 50s-60s and 3 drag strips with full mile configurations and also 2 more championships to the career mode, drag and classics championships,

Forza is quite obvious, they've added like 100 new cars all the same level of detail

Sounds, i prefer exaggerated sounds than horrid unaccurate and electronic ones,

Damage, are you kidding? you must be the only person that thinks damage model in GT5 is good

Career, guess what? we've been playing the same events since GT2

AI, ok, maybe i went too far, but there's no denying that Shift's is one of the best i've ever seen, it's so agressive that you don't even need to play online


Turn 10 has murdered PD to a point that considering PD being off the GT franchise is reasonable, after all, its Sony's game and i think they should get rid off PD or at least make them outsource some work

I know you work for the Microsoft but be reasonable there.

Details = FM4 car interiors looks like being made from cheap plastic, cannot compete with GT's interiors, standard cars ? Like those has anything to with the fact what GT5 graphics engine is capable of ? Just how many light sources Forza Motorsport 4 has anyways ? How many driving lights can you see there ? And what happens to the cars when you're having a race going on ? You guessed it, cars loses details dramatically, 2D interiors, engine etc.

sounds = I am a car enthuasists, and so far I can see how T10 is actually **ping the cars with their "correct" sounds.

T10 havent yet reached the PD's level, that is why they are now entering into EA's turf with upcoming Horizon.

 

[Sampyla20plus]

Not at all. I was simply pointing out that if you want to type out the typical tired responses of questionable accuracy telling people why they shouldn't prefer the Forza games to GT5, feel free to post them in either of the threads dedicated to doing so rather than arguing with people to just turn this into another Forza vs. GT5 thread.

Understand that, I know I go overheated, mainly because I see some typical fanboy comments, and I know I shouldnt even bother to comment on those, my apologies.

To the topic, my top 3 at the moment for consoles are

PS3 = GT5
Xbox 360 = TDU 2
PS2 = Enthusia / GT4 shared place.

 

[ToyoBart]

Project C.A.R.S. looks good ! thanks for the heads up forum :-)

 

[ch3ng]

Understand that, I know I go overheated, mainly because I see some typical fanboy comments, and I know I shouldnt even bother to comment on those, my apologies.

Well. I think it's against the AUP but if i quote it maybe i can post it.
If i read your and mikecustom last comments i maybe see some

typical fanboy comments

That's what he said

 

[mikecustom]

I know you work for the Microsoft but be reasonable there.

Details = FM4 car interiors looks like being made from cheap plastic, cannot compete with GT's interiors, standard cars ? Like those has anything to with the fact what GT5 graphics engine is capable of ? Just how many light sources Forza Motorsport 4 has anyways ? How many driving lights can you see there ? And what happens to the cars when you're having a race going on ? You guessed it, cars loses details dramatically, 2D interiors, engine etc.

sounds = I am a car enthuasists, and so far I can see how T10 is actually **ping the cars with their "correct" sounds.

T10 havent yet reached the PD's level, that is why they are now entering into EA's turf with upcoming Horizon.

uhm what? i work for microsoft? i play gt5 (not anymore) but i'm no fanboy, i don't have to explain myself why i prefer forza 4 and Shift 2 over GT5, in my opinion those are better and i undesrtand if you prefer GT5, i like it too but i'm an audio guy and i just can't stand GT's sounds, i wouldn't even care about other flaws if it had realistic sounds, for that reason alone i prefer forza 4 over any other game, even if they're exagerated, the note is accurate and thats what i want

 

[Foxiol]

pCARS physics are bad guys don´t fool yourselfs. I play tons of simulators on PC and pCARS looks good but that´s it. Tracks are inaccurate, physics (in "pre-alpha" state) are all wrong and as a true simulator fanatic player i can´t even finish a lap in Nürburgring and want to turn off the game.
Never happened this to me before in a game, imagine how bad the physics are...and i am talking in the FFB and car behaviour combined. If you want to make a simulator the first thing that you need to introduce and test are the physics and the simulation not the graphics and the content of the game.

They are introducing cool stuff to the market...as amazing graphics, great car list and some other cool things but the most important thing are the physics. They keep telling us that they are going to implement this close to the release of the game...hopefully this is true, but if it is not, this game is going to fail so hard in the "simulation business".

I have the pre-alpha since the beggining and i am a full member and i am going to receive the final version of the game at the end of the process, but if they fail at simulation this game is going to be a part of GT5 photomode and nothing more.

People seems way too exited about this game but it is nothing special at the moment really.

ACR, other beta game that some people by looking at videos on you tube call it Arcade...lmao...are talking rubbish about it and this game is going to be pretty cool...physics and FFB by now is pretty cool and realistic...and the best thing is that this game is totally free. They started with physics since 1st day and they are making a very good job with it. Still not "perfect" or even close to the best simulators but it does its job .(not promoting it, lol)

And about Forza VS GT...come on both games have its pros and cons...get over it and keep this threat on topic.

 

[MSTER232]

I completeley agree with the ai espcially

M.Rossi, 'nuff said.

 

[mister dog]

FM4's Sounds = Over-exaggarated to even sound like the real cars, if I'm honest.

Damage model = Well, if you like more Pre-made impact points than actual real time based, then it's only about a choice, oh and FM4 doesnt have windscreen modelled at all from the cockpit and is invincible and it doesnt have chassis damage.

Car Selection = This is true, but ONLY if you bought the DLC, without those, the list is almost identical with FM3 (without the Porsche)

Career = FM4 is identical with the FM3's career, almost, they took away the endurance races due to the lack of fuel consumption which is made all wrong in FM series.

Graphics = Only blind person can really say FM4 looks better than GT5, cant fool anyone who actually has both.

AI = in FM4 it is certain that AI will ram onto the player car whenever player is braking at the corner, these dont care are you there or not.

Better DLC = Depends, FM4 has received any new track at all, and only DLC cars are really interesting but there is some cars I personally dont understand at all, Jackson's Charger for example.

T10 ahead of PD = IF T10 can ever create tracks, surfaces or cars right then it could happen, but I doubt that will happen before FM X appears.

Sam, owner of the both games.

Mister dog, long time owner of GT and now passionate about Forza:

FM4 sounds: better all around, V8's V10's V12's all sound proper, this compared to half the cars in GT that sound like electrical kitchen appliances.

Damage model: At least Forza has one, and chassis damage is included.

Car selection: A car nuts wet dream, from classic to modern, not biased towards any continent, no countless versions of the same car, and in general a better choice in the rides that truly excite people.

Career: World tour, events, multiclass racing, rivals mode, online racing.. and not only that but you can change to any car class during world tour; the venue, money and bonusses stay the same. As such all your cars in your garage can get used throughout the career and events modes whenever you feel like driving them. Feel like doing that race with a LMP car, or maybe you feel more like breaking out the F50 or no.. let's go for some american muscle? The game will adapt the race towards the car that you are using and change the class.

Graphics: Almost at the same level as GT, the car models and interiors are great, the lighting is great, only when watching replays the quality is a little worse.
And no standard cars in sight. What good is top notch graphics and attention to detail when you put 700 PS2 models in there with blocky pixels?

AI: Yes more agressive, but at least they race you. Open up the door and they will jump into the gap and pass you. Also they are generally faster and give you a better run for your money. This compared to the grandmothers- moving obstacles in GT that are afraid to come even close to you.

DLC: Yes Forza has it, and its good and its monthly.

T10 ahead of PD? Yes, like you cant imagine (and i couldn't imagine neither before i actually made the switch).

 

[CJSpencer77]

LoL What Racing Games Are Better than GT5?
translates to Forza vs GT time

 

[SlipZtrEm]

It's been linked numerous times now, within the last few pages: take it to one of the main FM vs GT threads, folks. There's the general one, the physics one, and even a DLC one.

 

[mister dog]

Just had to reply, as i can't stand incorrect statements
And it was quite obvious this thread was bound to end up like this eventually no?

 

[MSTER232]

LoL What Racing Games Are Better than GT5?
translates to Forza vs GT time

I'm sure the creator of the thread didn't mean it in that way. I'm sure that he didn't mean to start a Forza Motorsport VS Gran Turismo war, but he meant, "What racing games in general are better than GT5?".

In terms of physics and on the console I can't think of any games better than Gran Turismo 5. But if PC games are included then many games come to mind like Live For Speed, Project C.A.R.S and so forth.

 

[SuperCobraJet]

Thats an easy one:

GT4.

FM4?
Better in some respects, and not as good in others.
Overall about the same, IMO.
Just goes to show how far PD missed the mark with GT5.

 

[azrael1965]

I lost my Ps3 & GT5 and X-Box 360 & Forza 4 because of my recent divorce. I bought PS3 & GT5 again but don't intend to rebuy Forza.

 

[UNPLISHED]

Graphics = Only blind person can really say FM4 looks better than GT5, cant fool anyone who actually has both.

Do you even own an Xbox 360 with HDMI? Seems like you're the blind one FM4 has better graphics than GT5 but I'm not bashing on GT5 both are good games I own both games. But why do give false information? Seems to me that you're just a GT fanboy.

 

[mikecustom]

so just to say forza is a better a game its automatically tagged as a fanboy gt vs fm, right?

i was just answering to the OP,
The forza word is banned?
i didn't know but thats lame

 

[IceMan PJN]

What Racing Games Are Better than GT5?

Alright, I didn't read a single reply, but I'm sure it must have been discussed plenty, but....

The correct answer is: definitely Forza Motorsport, especially FM4 and even FM3. There are some places where I might give GT5 the nod, but as a total package you can't beat Forza.

Graphics = Only blind person can really say FM4 looks better than GT5, cant fool anyone who actually has both.

Gran Turismo 5 - Honda S2000 Type V '03 at Laguna Seca

Forza Motorsport 3 - 2003 Honda S2000 at Laguna Seca

Gran Turismo 5 - Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD) '00 at Laguna Seca

Forza Motorsport 3 - 1997 Mazda RX-7

Gran Turismo 5 - Mitsubishi Eclipse GT '06

Forza Motorsport 3 - 2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT

That was just some of my old GT5 vs. FM3 photos. I didn't do any for FM4, which looks better.

"But you didn't choose the right cars or tracks from GT5!" 1) I needed something comparable in both games. 2) You don't get to hand-pick the better-looking parts of GT5 and pretend the rest isn't there. The old track models and Standard car models are also GT5, and they count against the graphics.

Oh, and here's a personal favorite. It's an unedited photo straight from GT5. It was taken in the game's own photo mode (during a race replay), exported to XMB, uploaded straight to Picasa, and now displayed straight (unedited) from Picasa.