What will stay and what will go?

[oli440]

Since the next GT installment is now confirmed to be 'Gran Turismo Sport', its fair to establish that the franchise is heading down a different, but more 'revolutionary' road. However, I have this horrid feeling that some of the features we know and love about the GT series will be discarded in favour of the games added emphasis of Motorsport and the FIA partnership. If the game approaches the racing genre like Project Cars for example, do you think any of the following features will stay or be removed?

The ability to buy and sell cars (or even GT Mode as a whole)

Photo mode and Photo travel - The trailer does however suggest multiple 'environments' which we could take photos of our cars in

Customization - I.e performance and cosmetic features. My fear being, if the game emphasizes online play, would customization be seen as an inconvenience in terms of race balancing?)

'Original' Racing circuits - Will they be dropped in favour of real circuits?

Snow/Dirt racing - This has slowly started to become less of a priority for PD, especially in GT6. I hope they don't drop them altogether.

Split Screen

I don't mean to alarm anyone with the context of this post, but I felt I needed to get your guys input. Will PD be loyal to the Gran Turismo formula and keep all the above features or will they be removed, resulting in a less diverse and more generic racing game experience?

 

[JKgo]

...Got a feeling this thread is being looked at by mods right now...

 

[Marc30599]

Well lets see split screen will probably go and on an off topic but related opinion I think standards should go

 

[Imari]

The ability to buy and sell cars

It'll probably be modified at the very least, certainly within the FIA series. I would imagine some sort of group unlocking system, such that when you gain access to a racing series you also have access to the cars needed to race it. It's possible that they could gate it a bit with credits so that you have to buy yourself a car, but I think they'd be better off being cautious with that one.

It's really kind of irrelevant anyway if the point is to buy one car and run the same race over and over to improve your skill and placing. Buying and selling does not improve that style of play. The only reason I could see to have it there is to continue to provide the Pokemon effect, so that people keep playing because they have to own every car. Maybe that's worth it to ensure that online races are well populated.

As long as it's not gating people out of getting at least one car that can race in a series that they're otherwise qualified for, it'll be fine.

Photo mode and Photo travel -

The trailer does however suggest multiple 'environments' which we could take photos of our cars in

Photo mode should stay, because the tech exists already and should presumably drop straight in. Photo travel should still be in, because they should just use the environments from GT5P/GT5/GT6 + whatever other things they've made for trailers and such.

Customization -

I.e performance and cosmetic features. My fear being, if the game emphasizes online play, would customization be seen as an inconvenience in terms of race balancing?)

I expect it to be severely restricted or eliminated entirely in the nations series, but performance tuning will need to be available in the manufacturers series. Otherwise some manufacturers simply won't be competitive, due to getting unlucky with how their cars are placed within arbitrary performance restrictions.

Cosmetics should remain. If anything they'll become more important as online takes off. One would hope that Polyphony has understood by now how much players enjoy making a car their own. Livery editor needs to happen, even if it's only a simple one.

'Original' Racing circuits -

Will they be dropped in favour of real circuits?

Possibly. At the very least, I'd like to see the classic circuits updated to something approaching real life specifications. Deep Forest and Trial Mountain need barriers and run-off where appropriate.

Realistically though, I imagine they'll keep them in even if they don't use them for FIA competition. If they refused to ditch them for PS3, I don't see why they'd start now.

Snow/Dirt racing -

This has slowly started to become less of a priority for PD, especially in GT6. I hope they don't drop them altogether.

Yeah, I can't see them taking it much further if they're pushing this FIA thing. They may retain it as a blast from the past, or it may just die. Possibly it's for the best, if they want to do rally it should probably be it's own game.

It's cool and all, but it's spreads GT too thin and they're really not doing it justice any more. It really requires it's own grip model, not just the tarmac model with extra slipperiness. I don't think that would be time particularly well spent.

Split Screen

I imagine they'll keep it. I know a lot of games have done away with it, but never for any particularly good reason I felt. I'd hope Polyphony feel the same.

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Performance tuning will need to be available in the manufacturers series. Otherwise some manufacturers simply won't be competitive, due to getting unlucky with how their cars are placed within arbitrary performance restrictions.

It's possible that all the cars within each category would be given the same performance so they would effectively be the same car, but with a different external appearance. This would have the benefit that you could choose to represent your favourite manufacturer knowing that it was a level playing field. If they went down this route they might also have no tuning available - this would be similar to previous GT Academy events.

 

[Imari]

It's possible that all the cars within each category would be given the same performance so they would effectively be the same car, but with a different external appearance. This would have the benefit that you could choose to represent your favourite manufacturer knowing that it was a level playing field. If they went down this route they might also have no tuning available - this would be similar to previous GT Academy events.

They could, but I can't see the manufacturers being terribly happy with that. Mazda, Honda, Toyota, BMW and all the rest didn't build their cars to have them drive the same as a Nissan.

Possibly it's doable for silhouette racers or stuff that is damn close, like GT500 or V8s. In those cases the intent of the rules of the series is to equalise performance anyway, so having actual equal performance is less of a big deal.

But for something like a Sunday Cup? Civics, MX5s, GT86s and so on all with the same performance? That doesn't seem right. I'm assuming that they'll include some traditional GT style races instead of purely spec racing, because otherwise it'll be pretty dry. And pretty limited, they won't be able to get many manufacturers into the lineup.

I strongly suspect that they'll just use the PP system, or power/weight restrictions. At least for the manufacturer series, nations stuff could be purely equal machinery races to ensure no advantage.

GT Academy has never had multiple selectable cars available for a single race, to my memory. Each race has had one car type only. So I don't think that's of any use informing us on how they might treat this situation.

 

[Sick Cylinder]

GT Academy has never had multiple selectable cars available for a single race, to my memory. Each race has had one car type only. So I don't think that's of any use informing us on how they might treat this situation.

I don't remember having the option to tune the cars used in GT Academy events - that's what I was referring to - they may make GT Sport a no tuning game.

 

[RodolphoPNeto]

I'm loving all of this.

But i might be a bit close minded when i say i hope there is a full spec GT7 on the way with 1000 premium, hi-def cars and proper sound, some good customization, new and classic tracks all the way back from GT1 so we can have some traditional fun and not only world wide competitive stuff, which sometimes i'm not that into it...

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

If the ability to buy/sell and upgrade cars was removed then it would no longer be Gran Turismo and I would definitely not buy it.

 

[doblocruiser]

I think sport will also start to focus more on race cars or racing modifications. Yes we saw an MX-5 but it was the only non-racer. Why would they use a name "Sport" and add a huge roster of non-racers?

 

[sparkytooth]

I think sport will also start to focus more on race cars or racing modifications. Yes we saw an MX-5 but it was the only non-racer. Why would they use a name "Sport" and add a huge roster of non-racers?

Well there was also the Veneno, the 4C and the AMG GT in the same trailer so the game might be focusing more on racing while still trying to balance the global appeal of the car list.

 

[doblocruiser]

Could be the case as well @sparkytooth

 

[Samus]

One just has to hope they don't have so much focus on the FIA stuff that the single player game is even further neglected than it was in GT5 and 6.

 

[syntex123]

I think sport will also start to focus more on race cars or racing modifications. Yes we saw an MX-5 but it was the only non-racer. Why would they use a name "Sport" and add a huge roster of non-racers?

Because the game is named GT Sport. The MX5 is a sporty car

 

[RodolphoPNeto]

I'm loving all of this.

But i might be a bit close minded when i say i hope there is a full spec GT7 on the way with 1000 premium, hi-def cars and proper sound, some good customization, new and classic tracks all the way back from GT1 so we can have some traditional fun and not only world wide competitive stuff, which sometimes i'm not that into it...

I guess this answers where this game fits in and my hopes are still high:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-10-28-gran-turismo-sport-is-not-gran-turismo-7

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'Sony Computer Entertainment Europe's president and CEO Jim Ryan provided some clarity in the wake of Sony's conference at Paris Games Week.

"We're not announcing Gran Turismo 7 at this stage," he told Eurogamer.'

 

[Johnnypenso]

I think sport will also start to focus more on race cars or racing modifications. Yes we saw an MX-5 but it was the only non-racer. Why would they use a name "Sport" and add a huge roster of non-racers?

Maybe we're taking the FIA connection too literally. Likely the upper tiers of the championship will be in FIA sanctioned cars on FIA sanctioned circuits, but there is no reason why you can't race anything and everything in the lower tiers as a qualifier to make it to the bigger stage.

 

[doblocruiser]

Could be @Johnnypenso but I have the impression that when FIA regulations come with GT Sport that the cars you enter in a FIA event must be authorized to race in a certain class. So somekind of racingmodification should be there.

Outside of those events you can race whatever you like. Only GT Sport is not GT7 as I understood so why separate the two? There must be a reason, otherwise they will add the same content in GT7.

Surely everything will be cleared up in the months to come 👍

 

[MisterWaffles]

I hope the Ferrari 458 is on GTS, or else I might just hover around project cars until GT7 comes out. So yes, the Ferrari 458 must stay, because it is my favourite car in GT6. If the GT3 version shows up then I'm probably pre-ordering it.

 

[oli440]

I hope the Ferrari 458 is on GTS, or else I might just hover around project cars until GT7 comes out. So yes, the Ferrari 458 must stay, because it is my favourite car in GT6. If the GT3 version shows up then I'm probably pre-ordering it.

Chances are, the entire Ferrari line up will be on GTS, since all the cars have been modeled to premium detail. In fact, all the premium cars in GT6 should make the game, even those which may not necessarily have a 'sporty' appeal.

Personally I'd rather not see the standard cars in GTS, but if PD are so insistent on keeping them as we think they are then so be it.....

 

[MisterWaffles]

Chances are, the entire Ferrari line up will be on GTS, since all the cars have been modeled to premium detail. In fact, all the premium cars in GT6 should make the game, even those which may not necessarily have a 'sporty' appeal.

Personally I'd rather not see the standard cars in GTS, but if PD are so insistent on keeping them as we think they are then so be it.....

Yeah, might as well keep what they already have. But something is ringing in my ears because this game is more race car oriented they might remove some road cars and save them for GT7.
You never know until the car list is announced...

 

[syntex123]

Could be @Johnnypenso but I have the impression that when FIA regulations come with GT Sport that the cars you enter in a FIA event must be authorized to race in a certain class. So somekind of racingmodification should be there.

Outside of those events you can race whatever you like. Only GT Sport is not GT7 as I understood so why separate the two? There must be a reason, otherwise they will add the same content in GT7.

Surely everything will be cleared up in the months to come 👍

I honestly believe GT Sport is a GT6 based game with better graphics and sounds, a game they rushed out to give us something, make us busy with something new until GT7 finally hits thr shelves. A prologue that's not a prologue. A chunk of the big apple, a taste of what lies ahead.

 

[Castrol96]

It's not GT without the original circuits