What ?!?

Every body and their dog knows GT4 has horribly outdated physics. Understeer is too prevalent, snapback is impossible to recover from, suspension movement is horrid, and muscle cars handle too well.
 
First off, don't just make What?!? as your title. Second of all, GT4 is close to being a Six Year old game on a PS2. And it's a Driving Simulator. The dude in the videos kept on talking about donuts, and drifting. Driving on roads in real life like that just might be illegal...
And I agree with the Youtube Dude, but GT4's still fun :dopey:
EDIT: Got Tree'd by StigNumbers. Damn you, Stig *shakes fist angrily*
 
See, this is what I can't understand is those same comments. Now, watching those videos (which are old as hell by the way) shows you some things.

1. Video #1 doesn't know how to distinguish donuts properly....what he is after are heli's, not donuts. The problem with GT4 is that it didn't model cars with standard LSD's properly to allow heli's to occur but it can do a perfectly round donut doing 28km/h in any gear you want depending on the car you use.

2. We already know about the "ballet dancing" pirouetting that the car does, it's nothing new, which is why we're thankful for rollovers in GT5.

3. The guy is using the brakes before doing anything else causing it to understeer....you can easily get drift out of a Skyline GT-R, but it's hard to maintain that drift for a long time without big loads of power and you use a different method of driving to induce the drift without the brakes or by using the handbrake.
 
Understeer is perfectly normal. The thing that's wrong with GT4 physics (aside from being old and outdated with a very simple tire model) is that it's too difficult to induce snap oversteer with a scandinavian flick on a flat track. On some tracks and with cars with heavier rear-ends, it's easier. But it's a bit too difficult on front-heavy cars with really stiff rear-ends.

Which means handbrake turns are near-impossible (in GT5P, they're just right... difficult, but doable) and the cars feel like they understeer too much. In truth... they understeer just right for the amount of grip they actually have in real life... the problem is that some cars don't oversteer nearly as easily as they should.

Everything understeers. Civics, Evos, M3s, NSXs. The only difference is, what happens when the rear end loses traction, too. :lol:
 
GT4 is still fun no matter what. Best racing Sim I've ever played. So what it's six years old, you wanna fight about it?
 
Yea no doubt, he needs to practice his skillz. What a terrible driver. I can see if the guy was skilled and had a few criticisms, but learn to drive first for heaven's sake!

I've seen these vids before btw; they're nothing new.
 
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