Who needs a Gr.B rally car ?

[Lomic]

I am in café menu 36? with the World Rally Challenge.

But I don't have a rally car and don't plan to buy one.

So I went with the only car which has dirt tyres... My F150 Raptor 😅 just for the lolz...

Ended up 2nd half a second behind n°1... 🤯

On first try on this track since long ago in GTS (where I already despised rally)

That's weird !

 

[ryzno]

I won all 3 races in the Nismo GTR 17 and only bought dirt tires for it.

 

[Lomic]

I won all 3 races in the Nismo GTR 17 and only bought dirt tires for it.

Funny that it is possible too. That shouldn't be the case neither 🤔 you should be held back by your suspensions and clearance.

 

[XSquareStickIt]

Gr.B Rally Cars are really useful for entering the Dirt Champions race at Fisherman's Ranch, which is at the moment, the fastest way to make credits in GT7.

Granted you can tune whatever car to enter, but I really enjoy the abundant torque through most of the rev range these specialised machines offer, and their short, close gearing makes sliding around a joy. Plus, the fact that you get a number of them for free in the campaign makes it a low cost, low effort entry into the event.

The stupidest thing about them is that they don't even come equipped with Dirt Tyres.

 

[Lomic]

The stupidest thing about them is that they don't even come equipped with Dirt Tyres.

Indeed ! Had to buy some fort the Audi I won with the Raptor...

 

[MagpieRacer]

I won all 3 races in the Nismo GTR 17 and only bought dirt tires for it.

Did that with my 670bhp R33, just lifted the suspension a bit.

 

[Zero2Oblivion]

One of the races is a road race in rally cars, but there is no requirement that you use a rally car/dirt tyres for it. Do that race first and it'll award you with a rally car that you can use for the other two races.

 

[Lomic]

One of the races is a road race in rally cars, but there is no requirement that you use a rally car/dirt tyres for it. Do that race first and it'll award you with a rally car that you can use for the other two races.

Good advice, but I realized that too late 😁

 

[Fusion]

One of the races is a road race in rally cars, but there is no requirement that you use a rally car/dirt tyres for it. Do that race first and it'll award you with a rally car that you can use for the other two races.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong but the best I can get on that race is 4th. Using my castrol toms supra that I used to complete menu book 36. I only catch the leader pack at the end. 3 laps is far too few. Guess I better try a different car?

 

[Lomic]

Did it with the Audi I've just won by finishing second with the Raptor at the first race. Used it stock and won with ease.

 

[Fusion]

Tried with a GT-R Nismo '17. 2 weight removals, 590HP Racing softs. Hard to manage the car, was clear I'd be slower than the Castrol Toms.

I'm getting 2:04-2:01 lap times in the Castrol toms. Not getting faster with any other car and sick of doing up cars to find out and having to grind back credits! I'm poor since I bought an F40.

Did it with the Audi I've just won by finishing second with the Raptor at the first race. Used it stock and won with ease.

A stock Raptor? What Audi did you win?

What difficulty AI? I'm set to hard. I can lower it but want to know if it's just me or my car first. Is everyone else on hard AI or normal?

I'm starting to think I just can't drive normal cars after driving the Castrol Toms Supra too much (not even that much). It can kick the back out a tiny bit with Racing hards but it's still so easy to control. Glued to the road.

 

[Lomic]

For Raptor I did the weight reduction and some limited upgrades as I did not want to spend much.

I play on normal difficulty, with TCS and no other aid. On controller.

The Audi is the one you win at Fisherman's ranch just before Alsace

 

[Fusion]

Ok thanks. For rally it could be that I'm playing on wheel and am new to it. No idea what the issue is on the road alsace race.

I tried the nismo GTR with dirt tyres on fishermans ranch. 650hp and 2 weight reductions and I just sucked. Didn't want to try and finish the race... Might have to do it with a controller, although after not using one for so long I'll probably suck with that too!

EDIT: BTW I just went to look as TCS because I should have it on 3 too, and it's locked on 0. I think for dirt races they automatically turn it off and don't let you turn it on so it's irrelevant.

Ok I wont gold on Fishermans ranch.

Normal AI difficulty made all the difference. It should be the same for the road race too. On hard the top 4 are way out ahead of the rest and being held back by the rest makes it harder to catch them in the end.

I also used a controller. I hate the rally but I can only get to grips with it by doing little micro adjustments. This is something I've been doing on a controller since the days of no analogue sticks/triggers so I'm very good at it. Subtle movements and adjustments don't work for me with these crap rally physics, I need to tap throttle constantly and the same for steering, although not really for steering as I set controller sensitivity to 0 (default) so full lock doens't equal anywhere near an instant full lock. I tried 7 but I'm not able to react that fast. Chase cam probably would have also helped but I stuck to cockpit which was frustrating. I refuse to go that arcade!

 

[klwn]

Gr.B Rally Cars are really useful for entering the Dirt Champions race at Fisherman's Ranch, which is at the moment, the fastest way to make credits in GT7.

Granted you can tune whatever car to enter, but I really enjoy the abundant torque through most of the rev range these specialised machines offer, and their short, close gearing makes sliding around a joy. Plus, the fact that you get a number of them for free in the campaign makes it a low cost, low effort entry into the event.

The stupidest thing about them is that they don't even come equipped with Dirt Tyres.

Good point. I tried the Audi Quattro PP and the Ford Focus, despite the Quattro has more PP, I like the Focus a bit more in terms of handling. Which one is your choice when it comes to farming? Ever tried the Evo or the Subby?

 

[Factor41]

I think I used my Gp.4 Supra to win the Gp.B Focus in the circuit race, then easily won the other Gp.Bs on dirt using that. The crazy Pikes Peak Audi can then be used to easily win all the German 700pp races, even without giving it longer gearing for the Nordschleife.

 

[Fusion]

I got gold on Alsace tarmac race using the audi with normal AI difficulty despite being 4-5sec slower per lap than when I tried on hard using Castrol Toms Supra. I'm not sure they designed the hard AI properly. I've been using the hard difficulty because the AI is not good enough, BUT on a 3 lap race for the challenge to be to overtake as many as you do on a 5 lap race in the previous challenge... that gets too much.

 

[boostdmarkii]

i found a really nice setup thst doesnt bounce off the jumps with the puegot and have just run with grinding with that.. at fishermans and colorado thats usually my issue if i lose ks losing control on the jumps

 

[Fusion]

i found a really nice setup thst doesnt bounce off the jumps with the puegot and have just run with grinding with that.. at fishermans and colorado thats usually my issue if i lose ks losing control on the jumps

Yep that was a tricky one for me, especially in cockpit or similar view when you see sky. What is the setup for the Pug?

I mentioned going to normal difficulty for this menubook before. Welp, I left it on normal for the Ferrari challenge and got in 1st place on the 3rd lap, he was 8 sec ahead and they just slowed down to be super slow. I got 12 sec ahead of him and lapped last place, then he must've speed up again because he closed the gap to 9 sec but just before I finished lapping the next guy.

In other words... I think I'll up the difficulty again until I struggle! It's just annoying not knowing if I'm struggling because of car choice, skill or the AI. I think I know now when there are shorter races it could be because of the harder AI and not having enough time to catch them.

 

[pedrocor]

International A licence Bronze awards you a Toyota GT-86 Gr B

 

[XSquareStickIt]

Good point. I tried the Audi Quattro PP and the Ford Focus, despite the Quattro has more PP, I like the Focus a bit more in terms of handling. Which one is your choice when it comes to farming? Ever tried the Evo or the Subby?

Unfortunately I haven't. Stuck with the Focus as I didn't want to spend any more time and money buying tyres for anything else. I often land rear first from jumps even when lifting before the crests of jumps however, so I think I'll definitely stay away from the mid engine cars on dirt for now.

 

[CustomX]

Just picking up this thread. I barely touched my rally cars in GTS. Is there a reason to buy a few nice ones in Gt7?

I love rally generally and am happy with Dirt 2.0 and whatever it's successor is. I don't need or want to drive the 3 dirt tracks in Gran Turismo (couldn't even give us some new ones?! Really?!) as it just seems like an incision for the sake of it.

Are any of the Group B Rally cars fun for tight twisty track driving (Tksuba, Nordschleife etc)?

If so, please name your faves and steer me toward which 3-4 to purchase

 

[Greasyfatman]

I am in café menu 36? with the World Rally Challenge.

But I don't have a rally car and don't plan to buy one.

So I went with the only car which has dirt tyres... My F150 Raptor 😅 just for the lolz...

Ended up 2nd half a second behind n°1... 🤯

On first try on this track since long ago in GTS (where I already despised rally)

That's weird !

I use the jeep it’s funny and challenging. Raptor I used first time through dominated the race.

 

[pedrocor]

Are any of the Group B Rally cars fun for tight twisty track driving (Tksuba, Nordschleife etc)?

Short answer is NO.
Group B cars just have massive oversteer in corner entry, just by lifting off throttle, no matter if the lift is on straight line before the corner. Maybe tuning the diffs would solve that, but, as you say, dirt is same **** as always, probably even worse, money is tight in GT7, so...
But through licence A (Toyota 86) and Menu 37 (Ford Focus, Audi Quattro S1 and Peugeot 205 Evo 2), you can have 4 group B cars without spending a penny. In Menu 37 you can make the Alsace tarmac race with any car and use the prize Focus to win the other two races on dirt.

 

[Lomic]

The 205 Peugeot is perfect for Moby Dick 30 laps at Tsukuba

 

[RSClio182]

The Audi Quattro I would pay 20m for. Having it for free is just delicious

My most used car by a long way.

 

[GTvon]

One of the races is a road race in rally cars, but there is no requirement that you use a rally car/dirt tyres for it. Do that race first and it'll award you with a rally car that you can use for the other two races.

This is what I did.

 

[thestig1978]

Absolute cake walk if you use a high powered car on the road race first the use the focus and win the other two with no problems. Why does the rally not come with dirt tyres?