Why can't i drift no matter how hard I try :(

[neosin]

Can some pro drifters with g27 please tell me what I'm doing wrong?

I have read all the guides on drifting and even bought a nissan 300zx with mods to drift.

But whenever I try to turn the car on its side, the car spins around even if i try to countersteer?

I feel the problem is with my g27 wheel, since it has 900 degrees rotation, I can't seem to turn the wheel fast enough?

How are you people doing it?

Can someone please make a proper dift video tutorial with g27 and car setup and put it on youtube?

Pleaseeeeee I'm begging you!

 

[Ishie]

Are you letting off the throttle once you get it sideways? Basically, the throttle controls angle. Angle being oversteer. You need to let the speed you come in at carry you through, not the throttle. The wheel just tells you where you want to go, not where "you will be going". So basically even if you countersteer perfectly, bad throttle management will make your car get such a great angle, it spins out.

Hope this helps, though i'm hardly a pro.

 

[Mr.Alex]

Honestly, I dont think you should really concern yourself on how other people are doing it. The best thing to do would be experimentation, go into a corner faster or slower or more throttle or less, the same to do with angle, etc.

How are your settings set up?

 

[neosin]

Are you letting off the throttle once you get it sideways? Basically, the throttle controls angle. Angle being oversteer. You need to let the speed you come in at carry you through, not the throttle. The wheel just tells you where you want to go, not where "you will be going". So basically even if you countersteer perfectly, bad throttle management will make your car get such a great angle, it spins out.

Hope this helps, though i'm hardly a pro.

thanks

so am I suppose to let go of the throttle? If i do that the car stops moving after a while. and even if i try to throttle aft i let go the car doesn't seem to move forward...

 

[neosin]

Honestly, I dont think you should really concern yourself on how other people are doing it. The best thing to do would be experimentation, go into a corner faster or slower or more throttle or less, the same to do with angle, etc.

How are your settings set up?

I copied one of the settings that someone posted for the 300zx but it seems to have too much power. If I put the car on the side and even gently press the throttle it spins out.

Can someone post full car settings and driving aid settings? I tried looking in the settings thread but they don't seem to cover driving aids and car settings. e.g none of them mention if the abs should be off or at 10?

 

[haubi]

deinstall some of the performance bits if you think it has too much power
All aids off, abs 1. steering settings on simulation and ffb strength at how you like it. The rest doesn't even matter to get you started.

Reading tutorials might help you get the hang of it quicker but you still need to learn how to do it. It's like driving a car or riding a bike. You can read and watch all you want but when it comes down to it you are going to suck at it in the beginning...

I would even go as far as not paying attention to any tutorials on how to drift in gt5. All the ones I have seen don't suit my driving style at all.

Everyone is different so just start practicing on a wide track.

Another problem could be that youre not countersteering fast enough. A friend of mine had the same problem and often times you just neet to let go of the steering wheel for a short amount of time and it will start countersteering by itself.

But as I said... Best thing in my opinion is to just go and do it. Maybe try to lower the car and stiffen the rear spring rates and shocks... When you are getting better you can worry about the perfect settings but if you spin out all the time its just as good as practicing with a stock setup

If you still spin out with the stock power on the 300zx maybe try a miata or a s13 and try to drift them


Contrary to the dualshock 3, drifting with a wheel isn't as easy and can get frustrating in the beginning.

 

[placebo]

lift off the gas and feather the throttle. its all about throttle control

 

[050999742]

How I've taught people: Get the car into a small slide, like an accidental one... push too hard on some corners where you know you will lose control. Then save it by developing your own techniques. That's starting small, and you can use those techniques and prolong them to hold and control a deliberate slide.

 

[Falango]

I found the G27 was actually really easy to use for drifting, and I was terrible at it before.

I bought a 370Z (Fairlady Z34 in game) and a few mods to bring it up to about 385hp. I found Grand Valley was good for this car, or Cape Ring too. Approach a corner at about the same speed you would to corner it regularly, and before you turn in, give the clutch a good kick with your foot in the gas to build revs. Let the clutch out and crank the wheel with our foot still on the gas. The back end will step out quickly. Once it's out about 30 degrees, take your foot off the gas slowly to control the slide. Start to countersteer as well. The key to holding the slide is throttle control. If you feel like the car is spinning, take your foot off the gas, maybe 10-20% gas, and steer more. If the car is regaining grip, stab the gas a bit more to push the back end out.

I use 900 degrees as well, and find this car reacts very well to steering and throttle inputs in a slide. I drive with 1 ABS, no traction control, no other assists, and the stock sport tires on the car. This car can't slide with race tires.

 

[DoriPanda]

900 degrees is harder anyway

 

[fitftw]

take a lightweight, overpowered car like a Miata or S2000 out on Cape Ring without chassis stiffening. Practice, practice, practice.

Remember to press the clutch (while foot on gas, to make rpm's jump and car loses traction) and turn the wheel to initiate the drift. Once sideways, countersteer as necessary, when starting to straighten, feather gas to keep drift going or center the wheel and gas out.

 

[050999742]

aw this thread makes me feel all warm inside :-)

 

[cosmicgate]

same here, i had no luck with the G27 as well

 

[Soullessvessel]

To be honest, drifting it not something that's easy to pick up on, it takes quite a while to get a hang of it, my recommendation if get a car you like the feel of, don't go nuts with the power on it, and simply run the same track over and over and over, I know this sound boring but the logic behind it is this, When learning to drift your having to learn 3 things usually. 1) the feeling of the car when sideways 2) the feeling of a car sideways period and 3) how to negotiate corners while sideways. If you cut 2 of those things out, and stick with 1 track (I recommended Tsukuba personally) And 1 car, after a lil bit you are leaving yourself to learn one thing and that's actually how to drift since you know the corners and you know the car.

Drifting is largely a balancing act, its not as simple as getting the car sideways and pressing the gas, it requires you to learn when throttle application is appropriate and when its not, a commonly used term is "feathering" the throttle, doing thing your giving the tires just enough spin to keep you sideways but not to much to throw you into a spin, as for countersteer, If your to gentle when you apply countersteer its no good. (I see people do this alot) don't be afraid to man handle the wheel to go into countersteer. I use the term "catching" the drift because you get this feeling where the rear of the car is slipping, and then it just balances when you get throttle and countersteer correct and isnt losing angle or isn't spinning more.

It also might help watching a more exprenced drifter online and just observing what he does from a follow car or in spectator mode, (esp spectator mode if it shows you throttle input and steering, I don't know if it does though) But paying close attention to how the driver balances the throttle can help alot if you are able to pick up exactly whats going on.

 

[Serum]

Stop worrying about settings. Pick up a silvia and purchase: clutch, flywheel, custom diff (read up on how each setting affects the diff), comfort hard tires. Don't buy suspension, power parts or anything else for that matter. Just drive, drive, drive....But most importantly have fun. If you get upset, walk away from the wheel then come back when you calm down. Listening to music helps also.

 

[Ishie]

Last two sentances are crucial.

 

[scir16v]

I'm still learning to slide on gt5. I have found some cars easier to drift with than others. The main thing I have learned from real drifting is to practice donuts. Thankfully gt5 does donuts better than previous versions.

 

[Robbks]

As said above.
Slippery tyres and just drive it.
learning how to get it sideways when you want
and learning how to slide it and hold that slide

 

[bazet]

don't even think to drift I failed miserably on GT5 + G27 ..though I can drift pretty easy in Battle Gear 3&4 arcade using Hachiroku

 

[ZSPaulus]

Stop worrying about settings. Pick up a silvia and purchase: clutch, flywheel, custom diff (read up on how each setting affects the diff), comfort hard tires. Don't buy suspension, power parts or anything else for that matter. Just drive, drive, drive....But most importantly have fun. If you get upset, walk away from the wheel then come back when you calm down. Listening to music helps also.

This is a very good tip for me; ive been punching my wheel at times..

 

[why_spyder]

I personally think the Z32 is a brick with nitro boosters.... if you want to learn to run it fast I suggest you start with bare minimum power upgrades. I started out with 660+ and in two days (with a controller) I have finally got a better understanding of the car. Also - I don't know what tires you are using, but I highly recommend Sport Softs even with higher power levels.

 

[BLueMotiioNx]

thanks
and even if i try to throttle aft i let go the car doesn't seem to move forward...

Maybe you are going to fast for that gear and try to shift down?