why is this game so hard to drive with logitech gt?

[jinjin123]

no matter what car i used it's very hard to drive with the logitech gt and i have to constantly fight the wheel. I've driven my bro's altima in RL and it's very easy. i understand that if you go fast, it's harder to control but i'm using a silva and goes like 60mph and i can barely control it in turns. is the game like that? for those of you who have raced in real life, is this closed to real life in terms of handling, or is it just a problem with the game or my wheel?


i've did some google searches and it seems that this is due to me not having power steering on. "assisted steering" is power steering correct? anyway, i've turned it on and it does help but i just want to confirm that it was my settings and not a problem with the wheel. I also just wanna know how realistic the handling is compared to real life.

thanks.

 

[Bluntified]

no matter what car i used it's very hard to drive with the logitech gt and i have to constantly fight the wheel. I've driven my bro's altima in RL and it's very easy. i understand that if you go fast, it's harder to control but i'm using a silva and goes like 60mph and i can barely control it in turns. is the game like that? for those of you who have raced in real life, is this closed to real life in terms of handling, or is it just a problem with the game or my wheel?

i've did some google searches and it seems that this is due to me not having power steering on. "assisted steering" is power steering correct? anyway, i've turned it on and it does help but i just want to confirm that it was my settings and not a problem with the wheel. I also just wanna know how realistic the handling is compared to real life.

thanks.

Try going 60 around a normal corner in real life lol. You'll have some fighting to do!

You need to get use to it, the wheel is trying to give you feedback for many things at once, where a real cars wheel only has one source of feedback, the tires! They have many similarities but many differences as well, something to get use to.

 

[MAidioPT]

I have a DFGT since 3 Years now. and i can say ITS AWESOME.

since gt5 came out (2 Years) i play with dfgt , and i am a MASTER.

Got one of the Fastest lap around Nurburgring with an GT-R Spec V. Even faster than the GTR Black Edition 2012.

Have fun! and TRAINING TRAINING TRAINING

 

[Infinital-NG]

Try lowering the Force Feedback setting.

Are you using a tuned car? Tuned suspension/LSD settings?

Try something stock (MX-5 is a good starter wheel car)

 

[scholesy1899]

Hey man, you've just got this second hand haven't you?

Don't dismiss as too hard straight away, wheels take time to get used to.

Do not compare to RL in any way, GT5 is a game/simulator and must be taken as such.

Forget how you drive with sixaxis.

When I first had my DFGT I was swinging from one side of the track to the other and never felt I would be able to control anything, so don't despair.

Note (but not gospel): Set all aids off except ABS 1, def don't use steering assist etc. if you want to become good with wheel you don't want them on.

Use manual gears (MT).

Get back in your Silvia and just cruise around for a while like a sunday drive, just getting the feel of steering first (Most important)

The gas pedal isn't an on/off switch, you need to feed in power and modulate with steering when exiting corners etc. (when you get faster you should understand what i mean).

Do not get in a Jaguar XJR-9 LM or any other unhandillable beast until you can drive 400-500pp cars proficiently.

Don't give up dude! However much you've played GT5, the usage of a wheel will open up a whole new game to you!

 

[jinjin123]

Hey man, you've just got this second hand haven't you?

Don't dismiss as too hard straight away, wheels take time to get used to.

Do not compare to RL in any way, GT5 is a game/simulator and must be taken as such.

Forget how you drive with sixaxis.

When I first had my DFGT I was swinging from one side of the track to the other and never felt I would be able to control anything, so don't despair.

Note (but not gospel): Set all aids off except ABS 1, def don't use steering assist etc. if you want to become good with wheel you don't want them on.

Use manual gears (MT).

Get back in your Silvia and just cruise around for a while like a sunday drive, just getting the feel of steering first (Most important)

The gas pedal isn't an on/off switch, you need to feed in power and modulate with steering when exiting corners etc. (when you get faster you should understand what i mean).

Do not get in a Jaguar XJR-9 LM or any other unhandillable beast until you can drive 400-500pp cars proficiently.

Don't give up dude! However much you've played GT5, the usage of a wheel will open up a whole new game to you!

Let me practice with automatic first lmao.

btw i got another question. to reverse, i have to hold the reverse button?!?!
can i put it into reverse gear and have it stay there then back into drive? having to hold reverse is very annoying. i'm on auto as i've said.

but yea i'm already getting the hang of it. most settings off except for abs. i just have to be careful with my speeds. i go too fast lol. the supercars are still hard to handle though. however, the sls amg is very easy to drive now.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Yes, you have to hold down the button, no way around it.

 

[scholesy1899]

Yeah, reverse button it is! but when you get good reverse will be needed few and far between, so sounds like your still ragging it TBH. The button won't be an issue once you can drive.


So you took my advice then.........oh no you didn't, you couldn't help yourself and started saying words like 'supercar' and SLS lol. (shiny lambos and ferrari's, froth froth, let me drive.)

If your happy diving into taming these then go for it, but i would urge to draw back a little.

There are lots of great cars road and race in the 400-500pp level and both road stock and race cars at this level are brilliant to train with. (think RMable premiums - they'll look great in cockpit view with your new HDTV aswell)

Its not all about the high end cars, most FF cars are low pp range and mastering FF driving I believe is part of making you a better overall driver.

Always remember, small steering inputs, then everything else will fall into place.

 

[jinjin123]

Yeah, reverse button it is! but when you get good reverse will be needed few and far between, so sounds like your still ragging it TBH. The button won't be an issue once you can drive.


So you took my advice then.........oh no you didn't, you couldn't help yourself and started saying words like 'supercar' and SLS lol. (shiny lambos and ferrari's, froth froth, let me drive.)

If your happy diving into taming these then go for it, but i would urge to draw back a little.

There are lots of great cars road and race in the 400-500pp level and both road stock and race cars at this level are brilliant to train with. (think RMable premiums - they'll look great in cockpit view with your new HDTV aswell)

Its not all about the high end cars, most FF cars are low pp range and mastering FF driving I believe is part of making you a better overall driver.

Always remember, small steering inputs, then everything else will fall into place.

yea i was playing arcade to test out the game. no i'm into GT life and the slow cars

man i was stuck on the last race in the B license and couldn't find out how to go faster than the other cars. then on youtube, someone said to turn off all assists and so i did. i went fast like a rockettttt:idea:

 

[scholesy1899]

There you go bud, little bit of research and your there.

Don't forget to utilise search on this forum for all your questions, as little as you might think they are. This is the best GT5 site there is.

Fast as a rocket is good, smoothness is the key.

Just keep going through the game as it sounds like you are now (licences ,GT mode)

Before you know it you'll be engine braking down through the paddles! (some people drive as the real car i.e. gear shift for gear shift cars and paddles for cars that are paddle equipped IRL)

I only use the paddles. Get use to manual trans now mate, it may feel like too much going on atm but as you said you're driving the slower stuff so this is your time to really pin down the basics and eat the lairy racers later with knowledge you won't be reaching for the reverse button.

As said before sunday drive stuff, you'll start to understand different feels of cars. Eventually leading you on to be able to tune and feel affects of what you changed in tuning.


You'll get there bud, be patient, all wheel users went through this at the beginning believe me, unless they were alien drivers at birth.

 

[feverpitch82]

Try racing something with at least race hard tires on, it will be alot easier to control...the comfort tyres are like driving on ice and I find them completely miserable to use. Also check your speed, you dont realise how fast you're actually going ( then compare that speed to " would I be able to do this in real life ". )

Driving force is a good wheel.

 

[eran0004]

Try racing something with at least race hard tires on, it will be alot easier to control...the comfort tyres are like driving on ice and I find them completely miserable to use. Also check your speed, you dont realise how fast you're actually going ( then compare that speed to " would I be able to do this in real life ". )

Driving force is a good wheel.

Actually, if you really want to learn to control the car with a wheel, go for comfort tyres. If you learn to drive with racing tyres you'll learn it wrong because the high grip will forgive your mistakes to the point where you'll not learn much from them. If you start with comfort tyres you'll notice the mistakes you do and you'll learn how to drive in a correct manner.

 

[Moontallico]

Try racing something with at least race hard tires on, it will be alot easier to control...the comfort tyres are like driving on ice and I find them completely miserable to use. Also check your speed, you dont realise how fast you're actually going ( then compare that speed to " would I be able to do this in real life ". )

Driving force is a good wheel.

Actually, if you really want to learn to control the car with a wheel, go for comfort tyres. If you learn to drive with racing tyres you'll learn it wrong because the high grip will forgive your mistakes to the point where you'll not learn much from them. If you start with comfort tyres you'll notice the mistakes you do and you'll learn how to drive in a correct manner.

Indeed.
Not to mention that the comfort tires actually have the most realistic grip for the slower cars and having those tires fit, you'll learn how to control the throttle in order to maintain grip.

Here's athread about tire recomendations for a more realistic driving: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=160821&highlight=GT5+Stock+Tire+Recommendations

That's what I did when I got my DFGT, anyway.
I followed the advice given here: turned everything but ABS off, FFB to 10, picked a stock VW Beetle and drove it on the Nordschleife.
Did that for a while, but eventually thought it was too hard and stopped for a moment.
Went back to practice after figuring out that the reason it was being too hard for me was that I was turning the wheel more than necessary causing the car understeer and spin easily.

Hope this helps.

 

[JohnScoonsBeard]

In case you haven't checked, go to the options menu from the initial menu that you see when the game loads. There go to wheel options. That is where you can set feedback level and where you turn power steering on and off. That may be what your friend meant rather than the steering assist option found on the event menu. I use powersteering off but it depends how comfortable you are with the force feedback. As another user suggested, you can turn ffb down. Play around to see what works best for you.