Will GT7 be PD's GRID Autosport?
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- Johnnypenso
Nope. I think Kaz and PD believe they are humming right along and while there are some issues with GT6 some of them are due to hardware limitations and others are simply a question of personal preference. Even the crappy AI I don't think is really that big an issue outside of a tiny number of harder core sim racers. For the prototypical casual/pad user I think the game is just fine. A crapload of cars and tracks, new Seasonals regularly, good physics for consoles, easy to win races. Good enough for most people.
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GT6 might still make up for it by the form of updates but I'm expecting something great from GT7 and expect it to be a major advancement in the series history in key areas and maybe even for the racing genre.
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- xmalcolmpowderx
Hard to say really. I cannot see GT ever reclaiming its crown of the king of console racers/drivers. Its time has come and gone.
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Right. Because GT's 1 through 4 were awful.
GT7 can be a pivotal game for PD. It can be a fresh start, a powerhouse presentation on their new system, with Kaz and Co stepping into the limelight with their best foot forward. Or, they could stay mired in the utterly strange decisions that have plagued the PS3 era of GT. As ever, we'll know when we see.
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- Tayeedz1
I'll look at this in terms of restoring a car's neglected paint
GT5- The bad paint appears with swirls, scratches, oxidation, the works
GT6 - Paint gets some cutting compound
GT7 - Ideally where the polish, sealer and wax gets applied and buffed
So if we're lucky, GT7 should be a fully restored car paint.
GT5- The bad paint appears with swirls, scratches, oxidation, the works
GT6 - Paint gets some cutting compound
GT7 - Ideally where the polish, sealer and wax gets applied and buffed
So if we're lucky, GT7 should be a fully restored car paint.
mister dog
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Grid autosport would mean Kaz and co would have to throw their whole game around.
Seeing how conservative they have been with their design decisions since like what, 10 years now, i give that idea 0% chance.
I bet Kaz feels he is still on a roll with the GT series anyway...
Seeing how conservative they have been with their design decisions since like what, 10 years now, i give that idea 0% chance.
I bet Kaz feels he is still on a roll with the GT series anyway...
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GT7 will be PDs GT7, and no one elses.
It will have the same flaws, the same ridiculous design decisions, and the same standard cars.
It will have the same flaws, the same ridiculous design decisions, and the same standard cars.
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You say that, but a new generation brings about new possibilities. To be honest, every major franchise hits a snag or several during its run. The PS4's extra power should help alleviate any of the issues people besides myself have been having with the series.
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I hope you are right. I really do.
I hate hating GT. It was my go to driving game since day one. Now however, that title goes to Assetto Corsa. GT7 will need to be AMAZING for me to turn away from Assetto. That includes VR support too.
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Many of the flaws with the series at this point are design decisions that won't be affected by better hardware. Which cars to include in the game (fantasy cars vs. real cars, modern and classics), a boring, linear career mode, the need to grind your way through the game in the absence of a money glitch etc. etc. etc.
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AI certainly will be affected by better hardware, as will sounds, graphics, physics, stability, and a bunch of other things. And as for career mode, each event takes up hard drive space, so if they wanted more events they'd have to give up on other things. And let's be honest, many, if not most, players want better online features as opposed to a better career mode. Quite frankly, I think that's incredibly stupid, but if it's what the masses want PD is certainly in no position to turn them down.
And why would you want a money glitch anyway? It's the gaming equivalent of theft.
EDIT: Oh, and who is that driver in your avatar? I don't recognize him.
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GT1-4 had plenty of events, cars and tracks without the benefit of hard drives and blu-ray discs.
What's incredibly stupid is thinking they have to chose one or the other (not aimed at you, but at the gaming industry in general). If they really are being forced to choose due to disc space, they can just put the single player on the disc and the online part on a day 1 patch.
That would be Gilles Villeneuve.
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I know GT1-4 had more events, so I'm guessing that, on top of shifting focus more towards online functions, the engine PD built for GT5/6 had to be more complicated to code for due to the incredible complexity of the hardware.
By "disk space," I meant "space on the hard disk," not "space on the Blu-ray." Even if they cut online features off from the shipped version and put them out as a day-one update, the resulting install size would be the same regardless.
Ah, thanks. I've never seen a picture of him before, so that's why I was asking.
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Interesting topic.
What Codemasters did was simply focusing on what made the original GRID great, listened to feedback from the community and translated that into a game with the little time they had. Now, the game is obviously far from perfect and the original GRID is in several ways still better than G:AS, but to me, it at least shows that they do listen and are willing to change. As a result, I've (although not yet fully) regained my faith in CM after the severely disliked GRID2 that took a detour from the original and for the worse.
As for PD and the GT series, my interest and faith in a once beloved franchise as well developer have quickly waned over the years. They haven't really impressed during the last generation and their latest effort is still suffering from issues that go back ten years, sadly. Most of them are once again due to design decisions and not results of hardware limitations. If I were to speculate, I do believe many of them will remain with GT7 - if Kaz's statement about keeping standard cars is anything to go by. I'd like to be proven wrong though.
Well, at least they have the Suggestion and the Q&A forum at their disposal. There's plenty of feedback to give them a hint or two, if they decide to take advantage of it at all.
What Codemasters did was simply focusing on what made the original GRID great, listened to feedback from the community and translated that into a game with the little time they had. Now, the game is obviously far from perfect and the original GRID is in several ways still better than G:AS, but to me, it at least shows that they do listen and are willing to change. As a result, I've (although not yet fully) regained my faith in CM after the severely disliked GRID2 that took a detour from the original and for the worse.
As for PD and the GT series, my interest and faith in a once beloved franchise as well developer have quickly waned over the years. They haven't really impressed during the last generation and their latest effort is still suffering from issues that go back ten years, sadly. Most of them are once again due to design decisions and not results of hardware limitations. If I were to speculate, I do believe many of them will remain with GT7 - if Kaz's statement about keeping standard cars is anything to go by. I'd like to be proven wrong though.
Well, at least they have the Suggestion and the Q&A forum at their disposal. There's plenty of feedback to give them a hint or two, if they decide to take advantage of it at all.
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Like having AI fields of poorly-matched cars, or only rolling starts...
That would be true, if the Blu-Ray were full as shipped. Which it isn't close to for GT6. Admittedly, GT7 on PS4 will probably be a bigger game, data-wise, but races take up very little space versus something like a car model.
Why not? It's not as if they have a sterling reputation of listening to the masses anyway. It's their decision.
Without the glitch with GT6, I would'v stopped playing even earlier. That being said, something like it wouldn't be required for me, personally, if the game were interesting. I played the PS2-era GT's for years, and while grinding certain credit-heavy series was required (B-Spec'ing the DTM championship in GT4) to keep a healthy bank account, the payout/cost-of-most-expensive-cars ratio was far, far better back then.
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Codies better continue apologising because they still haven't matched TOCA3. GRID was a good effort but never came close to they genre defining TOCA series and Autosport would have been a true modern classic if they simply released it as a TOCA 3 HD port. That's after all the game the "fans" want. So nice try OP but next question please.
As for the grinding in GT4 that was a huge pain to me and I only fully appreciated GT4 when I got a 100% save file and I could marvel in the riches the game had to offer but were locked away behind some stupid races or infuriating license tests. For everything which was great in GT4 there were a crapload of dodgy gameplay decisions and only when I could simply skip the parts I hated I came to truely love the game. I love license tests or driving missions. Just not all of them.
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