Wireless?

[funkyDucks]

Hello,
The current ISP I am with is giving me below par speeds that restricts me with my online gaming and web browsing. No other ISP can reach me in my area.
I have looked into a couple of other ways of bypassing this problem.
Firstly, http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002RM08RE/?tag=gtplanet-20
If I buy one can I put it right into my laptop and use it as a wireless hub(?) to run my PS3 off.
Another idea was that if I bought a http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0044YU60M/?tag=gtplanet-20 and maybe linked it with the adaptor above to get better speeds.

Am I on to something, do you have any other ideas or am I stuck with what I got?

 

[nick09]

You use a wired connection for all of your devices right? Then wireless won't be any faster or more stable than a wired connection. With the regular internet connection you get from the average ISP(which would be something like 3-10Mbps download and 1-3Mbps upload at least), a wireless device would not make the connection any faster and would just give you more problems. The PS3 would run better on a wired connection and almost all computers have a 1Gigabit Ethernet port vs the Ps3's integrated 54Mbit connection or even a 300Mbit Wifi N connection from your laptop. The best option here is to contact the ISP and tell them that you are not getting your advertised speeds.

 

[funkyDucks]

You use a wired connection for all of your devices right? Then wireless won't be any faster or more stable than a wired connection. With the regular internet connection you get from the average ISP(which would be something like 3-10Mbps download and 1-3Mbps upload at least), a wireless device would not make the connection any faster and would just give you more problems. The PS3 would run better on a wired connection and almost all computers have a 1Gigabit Ethernet port vs the Ps3's integrated 54Mbit connection or even a 300Mbit Wifi N connection from your laptop. The best option here is to contact the ISP and tell them that you are not getting your advertised speeds.

No, I am using a wireless connection. The location of the router doesn't allow a wired connection without tripping over wires. I have contacted my ISP and all they did was lower my price plan so that I am not paying for 8mb but a more realistic 3mb.

 

[Lock2Lock]

You use a wired connection for all of your devices right? Then wireless won't be any faster or more stable than a wired connection. With the regular internet connection you get from the average ISP(which would be something like 3-10Mbps download and 1-3Mbps upload at least), a wireless device would not make the connection any faster and would just give you more problems. The PS3 would run better on a wired connection and almost all computers have a 1Gigabit Ethernet port vs the Ps3's integrated 54Mbit connection or even a 300Mbit Wifi N connection from your laptop. The best option here is to contact the ISP and tell them that you are not getting your advertised speeds.

Not totally true... I had at&t dsl about two years ago and i found when you connect it straight into the modem (i hear is better to do, which i do this for a living part time and i work on computers 98% of the time) the connection was NAT3... When i used my netgear router i got NAT2... Now with comcast i get NAT1 or NAT2 running wireless with the same router... It truly depends on your ISP in a lot of cases... I was so re-leaved when i got comcast.. I took the riding lawn mower and obliterated the at&t modems when the comcast guy was on his way out of my house.. He was laughing.. But yes i would call to see what your ISP's bandwidth is and if it isn't high you should go with someone else... But totally up to you.

 

[nick09]

Well you could consider running Ethernet cables through the house. But then again I don't think no one would want to do that. There is a device called powerline. It's a device that will take an Ethernet connection and transmit it through your outlet circuit to another powerline device where you can plug a second Ethernet cable to get internet to your other devices. There are models which have more than one Ethernet port on the receiving power line device or you can attach a wired router to the receiving powerline device to get access to more ports for all of your devices.

 

[funkyDucks]

Roughly how better would a Ethernet be going by my wireless connection, or are they not related?

 

[funkyDucks]

http://www.dabs.ie/products/tp-link-200mb-mini-powerline-ethernet-adapter-7S1B.html?src=17
Is this the powerline? Just plug it into the wall and put an Ethernet cable into it?

 

[nick09]

A wired connection is still better because there are less interference and a faster ping speed(speed of your connection to send out a packet and get back to your computer) due to Ethernet cables are shielded from most interference. Those are important for a device which requires a constant connection to the internet. Yes, that is a power line device. This one would be the best option. The one you use to connect your wired devices to has four Ethernet ports and would be simple to setup.

 

[funkyDucks]

Thank you very much for your help. I will defiantly be getting one of them soon.
If you refer back to the first link in the OP, can the adapters offer a plug in and play service or do you need a ISP or anything for them. (Its for a different situation)

 

[tlowr4]

If your speeds are this slow already, avoid powerline. Running the signal through your main house where there's more to fight it isn't a good idea. I can't really suggest much though, my thread on 'Ethernet Patch' may help with the input that others had.

 

[nick09]

Yes there would be some loss but the device has a 200Mbit connection. Still plenty to stream with and even then everyone is limited by their internet connection. A powerline device won't make your house blow up. The signal is transmitted in a different frequency.

FunkyDucks, The device does not give you a internet service but rather the ability to access the internet through the ISP.

 

[wfooshee]

It feels like there are a couple of different things being discussed.

OP says he's using a wireless connection because the router's location doesn't allow wired without a nest of cables to fall over. I think he's confusing wireless LAN with wireless WAN, though. The router has something from his ISP into it, a coax cable, an Ethernet cable, or a phone line. (He doesn't say hat his ISP connection is, i.e. cable modem, DSL, or what.)

His ISP may actually have a wireless connection into his house, simply because hanging antennas is cheaper than digging ditches and burying fiber or coax, but wireless ISP is not common.

The idea to use his laptop as a wireless hub has no merit. He's already got wireless to his router, why split the bandwidth his laptop could use by using it as a hub? It would be slower.

A powerline system would be no improvement, either. His LAN might be marginally faster than wi-fi (but I doubt it) but his bottleneck still seems to be the ISP.

To the OP, it doesn't really matter what you do on your LAN. because any LAN connection you can come up with is gonna be fater than the WAN speed you show on the speed report for your ISP. If you can't get outside of the house any faster than that, it makes no difference whatsoever how fast you move data around inside the house. The WAN is still a bottleneck.

Speeds:
wired Ethernet, up to 1Gb, actually seen would be about 600Mb.
wifi, up to 110 Mb (with n,) actually seen would be about 60Mb. Wifi-g would be about half that.
Your ISP, about 3Mb, actually seen (as shown in your report) would be about 1.5 to 2 Mb.

So you see, nothing you can put in the house will get you faster Internet, because the ISP speed is the ISP speed is your Internet limit.

 

[nick09]

Most wifi N speeds are either 150Mbits or 300Mbits but really it does not matter when you don't have a fast connection in the first place.

 

[acascianelli]

How much bandwidth are you allowed through your ISP?

 

[DQuaN]

Instead of having network cables or wireless. Run the network through your powerlines.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/networking/powerline/

 

[yzfmike]

The powerline system does depend on the age of the house wiring. If it is older it will be slower. My aunt has a powerline system and she is only doing 10Mbps, way lower than a CAT 5e line will do. I advised her to get a 50 foot line of CAT 5e line and run it around the baseboards and tape it under the rug and what not. Her speeds will be at max for her service. (She does lots of data uploading/downloading)

 

[wfooshee]

Again, all you guys telling him how to fix the LAN have missed the point. It's his ISP speed that sucks.

 

[djinline]

When in despair, try improving your existing wireless antenna instead of buying (read: wasting money on) one of those big, expensive wireless antennas. It might help in your case, I'm not promising anything.

Also, read the author's comments in there in order to avoid confusion and potentially fubaring your wireless antenna.

 

[bevo]

Why don't you first try going wired on your computer and see if that speeds it up. If it does, then you might be able to do something about it being so slow when you are wireless, by getting a different router or something. If going wired doesn't give you better results then what you are doing now, then there is probably nothing you can do.

It's really hard to give you advice if you are only giving your wireless speed. Everyone needs to see how fast your ISP really is, when you are going straight to the modem from a computer with an ethernet cord.

 

[thechosenwonton]

Lots of bad info in here.

If your connection to your ISP is that bad, wireless or wired will make NO DIFFERENCE.

That is 100% fact in this case. Also, those mentioning wireless routers with 300mb speeds, this is moot, as the PS3 is wireless G only, so that is a max of 54mb, and that's optimal.

That being said, even super suboptimal conditions, you'll get far above what your ISP is providing, so it makes no sense to go about buying things or wiring your house, when the ISP is the problem, nothing else. You will only get outside of your own network as fast as your slowest link, and the link in this case is by FAR your ISP's speed.

So wired/wireless, its retarded to even THINK about changing anything if your ISP is that slow.

See what you can do. Call them. There is obviously a problem with the line, but, and this is a big but (no pun): If you are at the very limit distance wise from the DSLAM, there will be almost nothing that can be done, save hope they put a DSLAM nearer to you. DSL signal has a max length, and the farther you get from the DSLAM, the worse the signal will be. So have them tell you how far you are from the DSLAM (they will know, or SOMEONE should know who works there). If its over 18,000 feet (for ADSL), then thats that I'm afraid, it's a distance issue and the signal just isn't strong enough.

If its under 18,000 feet, then something is wrong with the line, and should be fixed.

But don't bother with all this wired/wireless/eth over power nonsense until the core issue is fixed; and even then, wireless is 100% fine for the bandwidth your PS3 uses on online gaming; you would never notice wired over wireless, period. I steam HD movies to my PS3 via Netflix over wireless, which uses WAAAAAY more thruput than online gaming. The only thing I can suggest after you try and get your line speed back to normal is put your modem/router in bridge mode (Google it), so at least you'll be on NAT2.

Cheers, and good luck.

 

[funkyDucks]

Sorry I didn't reply sooner.
Did a wired speed test and it was only marginally better. On my phone so can't post results.

I have and have always had believed the ISP was the problem but wanted to try other possible reasons. I will just wait until a better ISP is in my area because my current one probably will never get better.

 

[thechosenwonton]

I mean the problem may be fixable - if its a wiring issue to your house, they can/should fix that, and that is entirely possible; I wouldn't let it stand, those are pretty terrible speeds for ADSL - I'd be bugging them every single day until they fixed it, or gave you a definitive reason as to why your speeds are so slow (such as the distance issue I mentioned previously).