Would you like to run an NTSC against PAL race ?

[Tedehur]

Here's the idea :

• we add to a normal weekly race an NTSC vs PAL challenge
• you all know it before the race actually starts, so that you can give you best
• at the end of the week, I post the normal results
• then I calculate an NTSC total time and a PAL total time
  (this being done using the same number of drivers, that is, if submissions feature 10 NTSC times and 14 PAL, I'll only add up the 10 fastest times of each region, and only taking into account people capable of posting replays).

 

[jmgyro]

maybe add the top 5 times of each side to get the best results. Don't think that there will be 20 d1 people doing it and if its d1-d3 counting the highest 10 then results could vary a lot

Although you'd like everyone to participate and be apart of it, I just see some times that could be outliers. Unless your seeing it pretty even from NTSC and PAL users in all divisions then it'd be good with 10v10

 

[Randymcchickenf]

well we could run the race just for fun, not worrying too much about how reliable the data will be. If you want reliable data it would just be best to look back a few weeks and work it out from there; as all this is actualy deciding is whether we sort the race data in an additional way at the end of the week. Which we might as well do, just for the hell of it. Come on PAL

 

[Jake]

Is this because there is a known advantage for PAL over NTSC? I am still wondering if this is true but I can't seem to find any real info on it...

 

[s00zster]

I thought about this last night after the whole HP thing with the latest race - it would be cool, like the Gran Turismo equivalent of the Ryder Cup, different world regions playing against each other. 👍

Suzie

 

[Casio]

it would be cool, like the Gran Turismo equivalent of the Ryder Cup, different world regions playing against each other. 👍

Yes. That's a good idea 👍

We could have The East Side (Australia, NZ, Asia), The West Side (The Americas) the errr....North Side (Europe) South Side, (Africa, if there is any)

 

[MisterWeary]

I'd feel a little bit bad about PAL destroying NTSC but it'd still be fun

 

[Dr_Watson]

maybe add the top 5 times of each side to get the best results. Don't think that there will be 20 d1 people doing it and if its d1-d3 counting the highest 10 then results could vary a lot

Although you'd like everyone to participate and be apart of it, I just see some times that could be outliers. Unless your seeing it pretty even from NTSC and PAL users in all divisions then it'd be good with 10v10

why not the top 3 from each div?

 

[KLR142]

I voted yes, just because it'll be fun to see the results. I'm not expecting it to be an indicator of anything, nor to be accurate in any way of anything. It depends on who races what week, which changes all the time. So the results won't mean anything. I'm impartial, .

 

[TheWizard]

I think it would more accurate to spread the data over the largest amount of races that is currently possible.

Taking the data from just "one sample" (one race) and deriving statistical data for the entire "population" (all the races done in the past and the ones that will be done in the future) is not going to give any meaningful result. Much like it would be to take one person out of a classroom and checking his/her eye color and derive statistical data for the entire classroom, for example.

But, yeah, I would do it just for the fun of it. But I really think that, in order to get any meaningful information, one method should be chosen (best three-five fastest PAL and NTSC times) and applied to all the races we have done so far. Then you would really see "which one is faster between PAL and NTSC."

My 2 eurocents.

The Wizard.

 

[Tyre King]

Using the maximum number of drivers possible is the only fair way to do this. IMO

The PAL/NTSC spread should be fairly well spread throughout the divisions, so each 'side' would have D1/D2/D3 drivers in them.

All it would mean is that if there are 5 D1'ers on PAL, and 4 D1'ers on NTSC. Then only the top 4 PAL times are used! And the same for the other divisions.


As to any PAL/NTSC power advantages, it only occurs in situations like this week's race. And making adjustments (as Cyril has already done) wipe it out, so no problem!
It will be down to the driver's skills, not any format advantage.

Neil

 

[Dr_Watson]

I think it would more accurate to spread the data over the largest amount of races that is currently possible.

The Wizard.

I thought this was just a friendly competition? not a platform analysis.

 

[TheWizard]

I thought this was just a friendly competition? not a platform analysis.

I think we are both right.

It is a friendly competition and most likely it will stay that way - aren't we all friends in the WRS?

But I also thought the whole point of this was to prove once and for all (or disprove once and for all) that PAL is faster than NTSC.

If we do one race and pick the best 3-5 out of each region, it's not going to tell us anything, under that point of view.

Hence my suggestion: just take all the races we have done so far and apply the same method. Put the results in a spreadsheet and you'll have the answer. Well, maybe not THE answer, but a more accurate one, for sure.

Just as long as you are consistant: i.e. if you pick the best 3 NTSC times and the best 3 PAL times for one given race, you have to do it the same way for all the other races.

The Wizard.

 

[Iceman]

Neither game is better than the other, but sometimes a car is better in a certain version, either PAL or NTSC. In most races it means nothing which version you use but sometimes it can make a difference. There would be really no accurate way to check which version is "better" overall unless you ran every car in the game on the same track and compared it to the other version.