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Finland has been tough so far on day 2, Pajari has been on the trees in his Yaris Rally1 and lost most his aero, Taka has been off and done some major damage to his suspension and Tanak has had a monster crash. Tanak is OK, Jarvejoa has been taken to hospital for further checks.


The 3 scoring Toyotas are top, Rovanpera leads Evans with Ogier 3rd (in his first Rally1 Finland start).
 
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The RBR vs every other rally game argument has now been elevated to international broadcast on WRC All Live :lol:.

After SS8, in the stage-end interview, Gryazin said he knew the stage from playing Richard Burns Rally. However, the official site quoted him as saying EA Sports WRC. He complained about being misquoted in the interview following SS9 and now the official site has replaced it with [rally game].

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The RBR vs every other rally game argument has now been elevated to international broadcast on WRC All Live :lol:.

After SS8, in the stage-end interview, Gryazin said he knew the stage from playing Richard Burns Rally. However, the official site quoted him as saying EA Sports WRC. He complained about being misquoted in the interview following SS9 and now the official site has replaced it with [rally game].

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Saw that, found it amusing. It's a faux pas either way from whoever was doing the text as the stage in question isn't in EA WRC, so was silly to suggest it anyway. Today's SS12, Paijala, is in the game.
 
Saw that, found it amusing. It's a faux pas either way from whoever was doing the text as the stage in question isn't in EA WRC, so was silly to suggest it anyway. Today's SS12, Paijala, is in the game.
I found it quite strange tbh. It's hardly a direct competitor and is only really played nowadays thanks to to the RallySimFans mod. It's very niche and not a threat to EA WRC in the slightest. Given EA WRC is a primary sponsor with quite heavy branding front and centre I kind of get it but still... It was strange. :lol:

According to the RSF website only 23 people are in game
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No hate to the RBR and the RSF mod. Its great, The car list and stagelist they have amassed is incredible, If I had a wheel I'd spend a whole lot of time on it probably driving all the cool weird stuff like Ladas, Trabants, Old Skodas and even a Wartburg!
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How cool is that :lol:
 
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I found it quite strange tbh. It's hardly a direct competitor and is only really played nowadays thanks to to the RallySimFans mod. It's very niche and not a threat to EA WRC in the slightest. Given EA WRC is a primary sponsor with quite heavy branding front and centre I kind of get it but still... It was strange. :lol:

According to the RSF website only 23 people are in game
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No hate to the RBR and the RSF mod. Its great, The car list and stagelist they have amassed is incredible, If I had a wheel I'd spend a whole lot of time on it probably driving all the cool weird stuff like Ladas, Trabants, Old Skodas and even a Wartburg!
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How cool is that :lol:
You're right it's not a threat but they don't exactly want to advertise it regardless.

Meanwhile, absolute drama today as Rovanpera has rolled out of the lead in what looked to be a safe home win for him. Crew ok.

This leaves Ogier in the lead overall in his first rally Finalnd at the wheel of the Rally1 Yaris, Neuville P2 and Formaux P3.
 
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What a wild rally. I was not expecting an OGI NEU FOR podium!

I wonder what Latvala was thinking as he drove his Rally2 past the wrecked cars of Elfyn and Kalle.

Looks like the season will finish with Ogier hunting Neuville for the title.
 
What a wild rally. I was not expecting an OGI NEU FOR podium!

I wonder what Latvala was thinking as he drove his Rally2 past the wrecked cars of Elfyn and Kalle.

Looks like the season will finish with Ogier hunting Neuville for the title.
Would be remarkable if Ogier took the title on a part time drive.
 
Would be remarkable if Ogier took the title on a part time drive.
Would be embarrassing for almost all the drivers involved especially Elfyn. I get the sense Elfyn isn't much if a favourite at TGR anyway and with the pair of close 2nd place finishes in the championship and this dissapointing year maybe both might want a change of scenery.

Or am I just making excuses for ways of a Elfyn - M-Sport reunion 😂
 
This rally was chaos from the start. Crazy that no Finn was on the podium. I agree with Seb to be honest. The new Super Sunday thing is good, but should have replaced the Power Stage instead of in addition to it. It takes away from the PS, in my opinion.
 
OK, so are we starting a GTPlanet gofundme or patreon to buy it? I don't have high hopes, we didn't buy Willow Springs either :)
With an operating profit of 4.7mil € its only about 106 years until its profitable for whomever buys it?
I certianly shouldnt be running a business if I either dont see how this is going to be good or I am calculating something wrong (no matter which of both it is) 🤪
 
Bad news from Hyundai. This could mean they're pulling out.

I thought I'd read that Neuville had signed an extension with them. It would genuinely suck if they pulled out. They may be on the verge of finally doing it, surely they can find the funds to do both this and WEC like Toyota.
 
I thought I'd read that Neuville had signed an extension with them. It would genuinely suck if they pulled out. They may be on the verge of finally doing it, surely they can find the funds to do both this and WEC like Toyota.
I think funding is only part of the issue, the WRC doesn't seem to align with Hyundai's wider automotive goals at the moment. Plus with the limited championship success they have had (or haven't had), it doesn't surprise me.
 
I thought I'd read that Neuville had signed an extension with them. It would genuinely suck if they pulled out. They may be on the verge of finally doing it, surely they can find the funds to do both this and WEC like Toyota.
Yes, Neuville just extended his contract for a year, until the end of 2025. However, he wanted a two-year extension.

Unfortunately this is another sign pointing to Hyundai possibly pulling out at the end of 2025.
 
There are now a couple new articles on DirtFish regarding Hyundai drivers that add more fuel to the "Hyundai leaving" fire.

One is "Tanak concerned by Neuville's one-year Hyundai deal" and, while Ott didn't specifically say he was concerned, when asked if he was concerned he answered "yes". Ott's contract is up at the end of 2025.

Other article is Neuville denying having his own team involved in running Hyundai Rally1s in 2026. He also said that a private i20 Rally1 team for 2026 would be the "best solution", leading me to believe that Hyundai, despite having committed until end of 2026, is looking for a way to exit early without reneging on their contractual commitment.

There is plenty of speculation from other outlets worldwide ranging from 'announcing soon that 2025 is the last year' to 'committed until end of 2026'. Whatever is really going on, it does look like the WRC will lose Hyundai within the next two years.

The third i20 seat is open and Abiteboul has stated he prefers to have a permanent driver there instead of two or three rotating ones. Fourmaux is rumored to be in talks to move to Hyundai from M-Sport but given all this uncertainty around Hyundai surely he must be preferring to stay with M-Sport now. I would hope so.
 
Lots to catch up on. Ogier has struggled in the last few rounds, with issues at both the Acropolis and Chile, all but killing his title chances. Mathematically he can still claim his 9th title, but he needs Neuville and Tanak to drop a lot of points. Ogier is 41 points behind Neuville and 12 behind Tanak with 60 points on the table at CER and Rally Japan.

Elfyn Evans is technically still in with a shot, but needs to overcome a 46 point deficit to Neuville in 2 rounds to do so.

It is Neuvilles to lose, with 2 events that should play to his strengths, particularly the Central European Rally, which Neuville dominated last season. A maximum points haul at CER this season would secure his 1st title. However a maximum point weekend has only been achieved once this season under the new points system, which was Neuville way back at the first round in Monte Carlo.

It's worth noting how phenomenal a job Ogier has done despite the last few rounds being disappointing. Aside from Greece and Chile, he has been on the podium at every even he has competed this season, not finishing lower than 2nd. Started the season as a part time 3rd driver and therefore didn't compete in Sweden, Kenya or Poland, still scored a combined 25 points in Greece and Chile despite incidents and despite all of this can still take the title. Remarkable.

Hyundai meanwhile hold a slender 17 point advantage over Toyota in the constructors championship, after Toyota took a huge chunk out of them in Chile. Both teams will field strong lineups at CER, it will be interesting to see who gets nominated to score points. Hyundai will enter with Neuville, Tanak and Mikkelsen, whilst Toyota go in with Ogier, Evans, Katstuta and Pajari (who debuts on Tarmac in Rally1).

In driver news, it is heavily rumoured now that Adrien Formaux has signed for Hyundai for next season, on a 1+1 year deal as a 3rd driver with a full schedule contracted alongside Neuville and Tanak. This would be a big move for Adrien who has driven above expectations, with 4 podiums to his name this season. Compared to teammate Gregoire Munster who has only finished 8 rallies with a best result of 5th.

Toyota are expected to field Kalle Rovanpera, back to a full time drive, alongside Elfyn Evans. Jari-Matti Latvala has indicated they need 3 full time drivers for the championship so a 3rd driver full time driver will likely be announced. Currently it's unknown if they will choose Takamoto Katstuta for the seat after he was dropped for Rally Chile in a surprise move. Sami Pajari has impressed and would be a natural progression for him after a stellar season in WRC2 at the wheel of the new Rally2 Yaris and a season in which he took his first WRC Rally1 stage win at Rally Finland. Ogier is yet to confirm his own plans.

M-Sport are yet to confirm any of their drivers having seemingly lost their battle to keep Formaux in the face of uncertainty over their WRC future. Munster has disappointed and M-Sport need a strong season to justify staying around in 2026. With Esapekka Lappi and Andrea's Mikkelsen both seemingly available, and the likes of Yohan Rossel knocking on the door of Rally1, they have options. Oliver Solberg will be a target but sponsorship deals may put pay to any chance they would have of being able to sign him.
 
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Speaking of MEM getting another ERC or WRC2 shot...


I didn't think it would be Meirion out of the two drivers that would be doing it. Still, Thanks to MRF he's taking part in Rally Silesia.
 
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Big congratulations to Codies own Jon Armstrong for his first ever ERC podium in Rally Silesia!!!


Also MEM won the Livery of the year award for their Castrol Yaris R2.
 
Super tight at the top this morning at the CER.


Mikkelsen has crashed out though after a good start yesterday.



Champions elect are leading after SS5.
 
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It's not quite over just yet. After Neuville lost over 30 seconds yesterday getting stuck in a roadside ditch.

Needs a strong super Sunday to claw points back. He can still win the title today but it needs errors from those ahead and Tanak can't back off because Ogier and Evans are in strong positions for Toyota innthe constructors.
 
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