Gran Turismo 5 NASCAR Cockpit Gameplay at Indianapolis

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  2. Funkypickl

    Looks pretty good to me and I’m not that much of a NASCAR fan, but I have respect for those guys. My only complaint is the realism of the track. I’ve been to Indianapolis, as I’m sure some of you have, and those corners are banked a lot steeper than they appear in this gameplay. This video makes the track almost look like a flat track.

    1. dalejrfanfreak

      I haven’t been to Indy, but I have been to Talladega and in comparison yeahhhhh Indy is flat.

  6. Frank

    Quantity is a prevalent theme indeed. 90% primitive tracks in a season with a few road courses (when it should be the other way around) only legitimizing primitive mediocrity further. Add to that another 2 hideous series pretty much the same, thats three times the mediocrity. With hoards of unenlightened masses attending each event. It is irritating.

    If they could only use the cars that are already respected internationally..

  7. maxpontiac

    So many people hating on NASCAR in this thread. Could be that NASCAR puts more people at it’s events week in and week out then any other motorsport on the planet other then maybe F1?

    Something tells me that that very fact has a lot to do with it..

  8. George Washington

    RedBaron, use a wheel, get in cockpit view and turn up the volume. Trust me, from experience, these 3 things make long boring races engaging.

  9. RedBaron

    I would like to enjoy it but my experience with GT4 says me that I will fall asleep after ten laps on any oval track :o(

  12. Niko

    50 real race track, 500 premium cars!!And remove those standart cars!!YEES!!Tinted glass 800 cars 2010?:(

    Andre!10/10!

    /Backfires,glowing brake discs NEED!/

  13. Andre

    PD Please cancel realese date ant add about 50 real race track, about 500 premium cars, real damage sistem, skidmarks, perfect smoke, car custumization like in forza3, dynamic wether sistem, and real driving phisics a mean real like in real world, and remove those standart cars and nascar or rallie ok please please please don’t be so egoistic ok that what we want real fans of GT series we all wait this and don’t cry. we wait i by if you do this i pay for gt5 300 us $ and everybody pay don’t worry.

    1. JayKayEm

      Plus glowing brake discs, backfires AND can we PLEASE have all the classic GT tracks we were brought up on – Red Rock, Grindlewald, Complex String etc……

      “Simples”

  14. TylerD951

    I think it is funny that Forza is Better says that Forza 3 NOT having a feature (NASCAR) makes it better. That is some air-tight logic!

  16. Dave-o

    I’m not a huge NASCAR fan but I have seen a little on TV. I was actually quite fascinated to hear the commentators say that the teams have spotters around the track to let the driver know what’s going on. I remember seeing one bit where the 2 trains of cars were going around as they do, and someone from quite far down the pack pulled out, and the cars behind him followed him, and suddenly there were 3 trains of cars, and the guys that were at the front of one the original trains suddenly found themselves on the outside and had to slip right back. There is definitely more to it, but I doubt that kind of situation could be done justice on a sim. just my thoughts

  17. Big Ron

    Oh man, very interesting, how the people are bashing about F1 or NASCAR. Both racing series have its right to exist.

    If you think, NASCAR is boring or Redneck-sport, I say, the Formula 1´s right to exist is to show the best racing technologie. Otherwise it is like every other Formula-series out there.

    And NASCAR is a special kind of touring car series, created for action racing side by side and most viewable for spectators.

    If you do not like one kind of racing, than don´t play it. It’s as simple as that.

  20. funrun

    @ Sam_NY …nor do they even believe in it. This is why I’m supposed to discuss this with you…right. It’s bad enough not to care at all but worse to be stubborn enough to say this all fairytale. Some people simply don’t develop enough senses of connection to nature and the living world around them, usually those who grew up in city enviorments and didn’t experience enough nature. If you develop a sense of connection to nature you will care about trying the very best to put an end to oil consumption on a large scale (I don’t think we’ll ever be completely be off it). This is of course meant in sense outside of the world of motorsports. As far as NASCAR yes it is often a tight race, but only cause there’s a caution flag in the last few laps are the reason it’s like that…great. I’ll run a couple races, see how it is see how I do, but I ‘m gonna be racing down “normal” circuits and dirt/snow tracks 99% of the time. So in the end i guess it just depends on what you prefer.

  21. Frank

    I find every single little thing unappealing about NASCAR, like many people, except the oval tracks. Most people simply cannot separate the two.

    Oval track racing simply has to exist to some extent in motorsports, it just makes perfect sense, technically and aesthetically.

    The NASCAR phenomenon is such a paradox to me because the only reason I believe it is famous, aswell as hated, is due to the way it is marketed and presented on television. The camera angles can be effective, which is all NASCAR has going for it. The interface aesthetic (on the tv screen or on whatever you happen to be watching it on) is awful. The accent of commentators is annoying. The cars are monstrosities, lacking any artistic sensibility. Of course all these things are normal to the NASCAR fan.

    Oval track racing will be fun, no doubt about it, when its done the Gran Turismo way. Be careful of not falling into the trap of appreciating one of those cars haphazardly as you come to appreciate oval track racing. One can only hope the NASCAR fan playing GT will evolve into racing tasteful cars on the oval track.

    1. GasolineJunkie

      “The NASCAR phenomenon is such a paradox to me because the only reason I believe it is famous, aswell as hated, is due to the way it is marketed and presented on television. The camera angles can be effective, which is all NASCAR has going for it.”

      That’s funny because there are thousands of fans at every race, sometimes hundreds of thousands of fans depending on capacity. Not to mention the fans who are in the infield that do not sit in a stadium seat. And there are 36 official races for the Sprint Cup alone per year. There are also the other two series.

      As far as the cars being monstrosities, I’ll give you that to a certain extent. They are outdated in the sense that they are carburated, and arent very pretty while an F1 car in my opinion is probably one of the most technological and appealing looking cars to look at. But that is what makes NASCAR what it is. It is Stock Car racing. That means the teams have to do more with less.

      You say the accent is annoying, well, I can’t help you there. I watch alot of the youtube clips of Japan GT racing and I’m pretty sure you can’t get more annoying than listening to the Japanese language when you don’t speak it. But I watch it for the racing, not the announcers.

      If you don’t like it, you don’t like it. I’m cool with that, but not one of your points had anything to do with the racing aspect of NASCAR.

      And what is the “Grand Turismo way” of Oval Track racing?

    2. Frank

      “If you don’t like it, you don’t like it. I’m cool with that, but not one of your points had anything to do with the racing aspect of NASCAR.”

      My points are intentionally simple, broad and civilian.

      Thousands, even hundreds of thousands attend every race, why I don’t know. There is certainly no reason to get into NASCAR based on how its presented on television which is the only way a non-american would come to know of it (even though some see some appeal in it anyway). The infield is so far infield they might be watching it on tv in their trailer anyway. Whatever the case, they’re apparently so into it, that they are lost to me. They may even attend all 36 races, I don’t see the point.

      Why build 36 massive race parks, all a simple variation of the same track? Why have three separate series, each with machines more hideous than the previous series? Each with more or less the same amount of races on again, a variation of the same primitive track? Thats 3 times the primitive mediocrity.

      If its about having to do more with less, there are dozens other race series inferior to F1 which are just as interesting. Even if these were the stock production models of the Viper, Corvette and GT40, thats all I’d need to get interested. In fact, that would pretty damn awesome.

      The accent is an easy problem to fix, find different people.

      The “Gran Turismo way” of Oval Track racing is, first of all, like I said, done with tasteful, non-NASCAR cars. The rules can even be kept pretty much the same. I don’t know official NASCAR regulation, but that is irrelevant to the essential problem of the appeal of NASCAR.

      That alone is enough, but more importantly it’ll also be done within the context complex race courses. No matter how sophisticated NASCAR rules are or can be, they will always be more interesting with better cars, and doubly more complicated with the addition of say, a right turn.

      When people say they can’t wait to drive a NASCAR on a non-oval track, I think Red Rock Valley from GT2 is a supreme example. I NASCAR would acquire tracks like this, this alone would also be enough for me to be interested. But frankly most have it the wrong way around, you’re supposed to drive nice cars on nice tracks, and nice cars on simple NASCAR tracks.

    3. GasolineJunkie

      You obviously are just predjudiced against NASCAR so there is no reason arguing with you. NASCAR is the MOST SUCCESSFUL racing series in the world. Period. I’m sure it could be even more successful if they would listen to your suggestions on how to make it better, huh?

      Anyway, I’m not a NASCAR junkie, i just appreciate all racing. Like my name implies:)

      Peace out Frank.

    4. Frank

      Glad I could present all the immediate prejudices of one side, in a simple well ordered fashion. Theres a whole other world out there that NASCAR could impress.

      NASCAR fans are so easily amused that when they see how a right turn can be implemented (pun intended), they will be raptured.

      But really I just want to see a bunch of Vipers and Corvettes don’t we all?

      Peace out GasolineInhaler.

  22. JMATZ144

    The Reason Nascar is the best sport in the world (same with indy car)is because its actually competaive. Everyone watch this weekends race at Daytona, best racing you will ever see. At Talladega they set the record for lead changes at 52, I think(And that is only at the finish line!!!. How many lead changes do you see at a road course?!?!?! NASCAR FTW

    1. funrun

      lol, thank goodness not hat that many, otherwise there’s be something majorly wrong with either the driver or the cars. I believe Indy has a boost button they can hit 10 times(or something) where there’s a short hp increase, so that’s a big reason for that, makes for childish position gains.

    2. iRevelationz

      Actually, there was 88 lead changes…in only 188 laps (not including green white checkers). you wouldn’t get 88 lead changes in 1,000 laps in an F1 race.

    4. Ha

      Lots of lead changes doesn’t necessarily make for good racing! You may have had 88 lead changes but how much REAL overtaking was done? I would rather see 5 overtakes on a road course than 88 cars drive past each other at full speed on a massively wide track.
      I’m not saying that there is anything wrong with NASCAR it certainly has an important place in motorsport, but the argument that is better because there is more overtaking is rather weak when you are driving on an oval for most of the season. It has it’s own appeal but comparing to other series is futile.
      Anyway if polyphony can get the feel of NASCAR anywhere near to how iRacing have done it then it will be a brilliant addition to the game (provided uber-drafting is removed!).

  23. LOTUS

    I am not a native speaker so grammar might be strange.

    Anyway, I think a biggest issue in GT5 with WRC and NASCAR included seems to be late release date rather than how well those series are presented.

    I think it was meant by PD that WRC and NASCAR are more like a nice extra fun for basic GT game. If you are really into NASCAR i think you should go and buy NASCAR game for PC and go with it.

    Now when the release date has been changed so many years people start to think that game should offer least three full racing series(full games) because it has took so long.

    I don’t mind about WRC or NASCAR either but it can be nice to try it. I think it makes more richer experience when you can feel the existence of real life racing series in a game which is all about driving with dream cars in dream tracks.

  24. smoke1485

    Seriously all the redneck comments, are people this ignorant. Fine, only wankers and pillicks watch f1 goes both ways.

  25. smoke1485

    waste of fuel and emmissions…..f1 car=3.2 miles per gallon us…..nascar carburated v8 that’s more than twice as large=4.3 to 4.7 us gallons. Check your misconceptions at the door and go watch 2 hours of parade laps while more fuel is being burned away.

    1. Sam__NY

      You could have responded up the page at the origin of this, but anyway, the fact of the matter is, racing fans (at least the majority) don’t give a crap about climate change, nor do they even believe in it. F1 is a spectacular sport that truly demonstrates how far we’ve come in terms of race tech, however, Americans would rather see many cars tightly packed all gunning for the win with finishes where 1st and 2nd place are separated by less than one second.

      It’s just depends on what you prefer.

    2. cuco33

      No one should be preaching fuel consumption unless they are talking about endurance racing, like ALMS/LMS. Cuz that is where it most counts… pushing the crap out of a car for hours and hours, and having to service and fuel the car throughout that time. F1 can guzzle 1 mpg and I think it’s a better motorsport than Nascar. I just never got into Nascar and I find it absolutely boring followed by mostly rednecks who want to see crashes and not the race. Playing Nascar games though… totally different story!!!

  29. Flagmo-T Aka Team_MoFF-No2

    wow I Like it, looking forward to race with these heavy Cars, infineon should be the track to test it on :O)

  30. smoke1485

    Japan and europe and australia have had theor own specific type of national racing series inthe game forever (f1, jgtc, dtm, v8 supercars) but as soon as america gets one of its series in, the rest of the world whines and cries like children listen to yourselves.

    1. Niko

      Offical site 20 locations,not 20 tracks!How many?This military top secret.

      5 years,but i not see old track/Monaco,Deep Forest,Paris,Laguna Seca etc/gameplay video?!

      I really hope,NOT 20 tracks and reverse version/40/!800 standard cars,not cool news/but ok/+only 20 tracks huge disappointing!

  34. Bigcatfish

    Just watching the speeds worry me a bit. The driver in this video isn’t driving the best lines and isn’t very smooth, yet hit 212mph on the straights… not realistic. In qualifying trim at Indy, stock cars might hit 205… and maybe 200 in race trim. Maybe the draft effect is too high?

    message by the catfish

    1. FORZA_SUCKS

      u’ve never seen a race have u… because if u had, u wouldnt say its boring. ur boring alex

  38. Marcus

    Does anybody else think that PD should have gotten the license to f1 before codemasters. Or else split the license. I would prefer that to nascar.

    I mean undoubtedly most people here clearly agree that spa is a better track than the indy oval. I want to race in all the f1 tracks especially singapore, silverstone, monza and even though its not on the calender san marino.

    Apart from f1 i can only think of two other motorsports. proper wrc i.e. stages not dirt circuits and LMS (all classes)

    1. tommygt

      Your so right there… i’d take spa over every single nascar and oval track the world has to offer. The inclusion of nascar in GT5 is purely for the purpose of making more money from americans IMO

  39. Kirill

    Will I ever be able to understand the fun of ovals? I don’t think so. Spa. Suzuka. Twin Ring Motegi (not the oval!!) forever!

  40. blaktek

    Where did any of you guys get the idea that PD would actually make a Nascar game tucked somewhere inside GT ? Or a developped WRC part, for that matter ?

    GT has always been about giving us every car PD can, and make sure that no matter what you ride is, you have at least a handful of tracks suited for it.

    This won’t change with the licensing of those series. Not for the #5 anyways.

    1. danielwhite74

      Tell me something I don’t know. I don’t know why people are judging Forza as a simulator, though. Turn 10 themselves promote the game as being an “arcadey” sim.

  42. RaWRespect

    Hmmm, quite old this movie. Ah well, you got to post something “news” right? 2 weeks ago this small movie was already on youtube and there isn’t even ingame sound…

    Other “news” please….

    2. StarFox550

      Vet is right…. It’s pretty difficult to hold your line around those oval bends especially in a pack with a pad, a wheel will let you be accurate otherwise it’s P.I.T manoeuvre central

    3. HenGTX

      I do not totally agree, I raced oval tracks online with the keypad of my pc. And won several of them.

  44. ElieTheBear

    I never cared abaout nascar .. but with gt physics and wuality gaming .. now I try too watch some nascar races lol I become interesting in it lol ! .. and thats what kaz want I think … sharing a real driving experience through different aspects / disciplines .. and its exactly what he does … he started with a GT game … thenm GT + WRC … then GT WRC F1 24 HOURS CARS NASCARS maybe next go-kart .. ! this is a complete game ! and from one GT to an other .. this game is going bigger n bigger … complex .. and with huge car names and sponsors … redbull… race drivers etc … and its just a 60 dollar game .. this is so cool .. nothing negative to say with gt and all new features they put in !! the only thing I hope is at least black framed cockpit view for standard cars .. to be able to race them all in the same way with the same view … !! its like 4 games in one … ; D

    1. airjoker88

      very true! people seem to over look that sometimes, it seems that kaz is striving for the ultimate racing game and understandly so, as we’ve learned of kaz’s high goals/standards/ambitions throughout the gte series

  45. MarkPL

    Nascar is so fun! And you people shouldn’t neg it just becouse you don’t really know what it’s all about. Get the knowledge first, than share negative opinions. It’s like with the music, most people don’t like classical music, becouse they just don’t get it. Know what’s there to understand and you’ll love it.

  46. airjoker88

    i didn’t realize there are so many close minded/negative people. nascar is what it is; a battle against physics at the fastest pace possible(and thats just the main element among others), its just as physically and mentally draining as any other sport and far from an easy task or everyone would be doing it. i just recently started anaylizing the sport.

    1. Hoodie

      Yeah but since when was GT all about motorsport and racing? The tagline is “The real driving simulator”. Not “The real racing simulator”.

      Gran Turismo is about CARS. Buying them, selling them, modifying them, and yes, racing them too.

      But NASCAR is only about the racing itself. The ‘sport’ of it. The cars are all the same basically and very uninteresting.

      Just doesn’t fit with what my idea of GT is, or what the series originally started out as. I guess if Kaz wants to branch the franchise out into new directions, that’s his right to do so. But it still seems an odd fit and I also fear that GT is being stretched a little thin.

      It’s not that I have a problem with NASCAR itself per se, I just have a problem with NASCAR in GT.

    2. airjoker88

      well i cant give an exact reason for that besides the GT has included rally racing, f1, etc that are motorsport drivin opposed to building up a car, and it is totally plausible for kaz to implement nascar as part of a game that inccludes many aspects of racing to further add to the genius that is Gran Turismo.

  47. DrTrouserPlank

    The ugliest cars in motorsport still look hideous in the most beautiful game around.

    I guess you can’t polish a turd.

    1. NotaSonyEmployee

      Well, you could if you dried the turd in the sun first, or mabey froze it and polished it before it thawed, but I wouldn’t use the rag to wash your face afterwards.

    2. azzaj

      Nah you give the turd a nice coat of varnish first.

      But come on the nascars should be a bit of fun, they do go around both types of corner as well when they dont have a massive stagger on.

      Nascars at trial mountain = pure win.

      Even better if you can mod them – RB26 with 1000hp anyone?

      or perhaps 4wd and catch some noobs out online?

  48. Marcus

    to be honest the only excitment about nascar is the contunous overtaking. Most other forms of motorsport don’t need overtaking e.g. f1 because the excitement comes from the championship.

    Nascar seems to have nothing other than the possibility of overtaking and if that is going to be eliminated then it isn’t very interesting especially when on an oval. In prologue and gt psp ovals are the easiest way to get money and i can’t go for more than 4 laps without being bored to death.

  49. twinspark24

    GT5 is trying to be a little of everything and in the end we will have 5 mediocre licenses stitched into one game

    If the 20 tracks thing is correct…we’ll have two tracks for WRC and two for NASCAR (approximately). On the other hand you will drive F1 cars on the cobbled streets of Rome; NASCAR chunks on Nurburgring (can they turn right?!) and Murcielago on dirt.. how pornographic is that?

    +1 for the guy who mentioned power-boating

    2. viejaloca

      I think you’re being a bit negative. NASCAR isn’t limited to racing on ovals! I predict there will be AT LEAST 6 rally tracks, not counting the different variations. Then there will probably be 3 ovals. That leaves another 11 tracks that will be either city, world or fictional circuits. that to me is good enough, but who knows? We might get more!

  51. KilzoneStrife

    So..if Nascars are ‘premium’ …and their pretty bare on the inside,I’d say thats a huge waste of resources modelling the interior

    1. NotaSonyEmployee

      No more bare than alot of other race cars really, but they do have an uncommon amount of room which can make them look comparitively empty. there are plenty of little details that can be appreciated if done right. Of course, that does open it up for the argument of how much is too much, but I suspect that the target audience will be pleased.

  53. Organ-Donor

    LOL@NASCAR complainers. You dont like NASCAR, dont drive them. To say it shouldnt be in GT5 is ignorant, just because you dont like it. To all that say its just driving around in circles have no clue what really goes into the races. I wasnt much of a NASCAR fan at first but then after watching and really understanding how it works, its pretty facinating. Cant wait to get some heated races online. And good to hear that they support full length races. If anyone is driving the Kyle Bush car I’m going to wreck you right away :P

    1. Rhys

      Indeed! cmon PD we had games with trees and where invisible walls were 100m’s away from the track on ps2… like 10 years ago.

  56. marcvic

    Man, all my life I’ve always bashed Nascar for being “boring” or “easy”… I must admit this looks REALLY fun. That speed when exiting those corners looks crazy. Can’t wait to play with 16 cars on the track!

    1. Mike

      Too bad they can’t have 43 cars on the track like a real NASCAR race, but yeah, it should be fun. I can’t wait to take NASCAR to the Nürburgring.

    2. marcvic

      Yeah, 43 cars would definitely add to the rush with cars inches apart from every angle driving at 200mph! Very interested that they were not able to implement it. There seems to be a lot of compromise with this game, I’ve noticed (even though so much new stuff has been brought to the table)… what do you think? Am I being a little critical with that statement?

  57. Hoodie

    Whether or not NASCAR is good or not (in real life or the game) is beside the point IMO. I just don’t see how NASCAR has anything to do with the ‘soul’ of GT, that is starting out with a sh*tbox and modifying the bejesus out of it, winning some races, earning money, buying more cars, selling older cars, building up the ‘dream garage’, etc, etc.
    WRC kinda fits in because the cars involved have been developed from standard passenger vehicles.
    Having Ferraris and such is cool too because it gives you something to aim for and also gives a great comparasion between the cars you start with and the ultimate supercars you end up driving.
    But NASCAR?
    I just don’t get it. Especially if not every part of the sport is included I really think this should have been left as a seperate game. Seriously it would be like PD including powerboat racing or the red-bull air race. The NASCARS have little to nothing to do with production vehicles, and I thought that’s what Gran Turismo was all about!
    (For the same reason I never want F1 in GT either, as good as it could be.)

    1. GasolineJunkie

      “The NASCARS have little to nothing to do with production vehicles, and I thought that’s what Gran Turismo was all about!”

      So hold on, a Dodge Charger stock car isn’t a production type vehicle but a Peugot 908 is?
      I thought GT was about racing.

    2. NotaSonyEmployee

      I don’t think it’s any more “un-GT” than say GT4’s Leno Tank Car, or any of GT4’s late 1800s early 1900s car examples. Kaz has always put some cars in there just because they interest him. Some you could race, some you couldn’t. At least NASCAR is something that people will be able to race, and is designed for it, and is part of a plan where the goal is for the widest group possible to be reached with various race classes and types.
      Personnally, I’ve always liked the oddballs myself. I’m more into the history of autos and fun of driving them than the hardcore racing. I’m pretty sure some of PD’s picks are made with such people in mind, especially has caz is a car lover first and foremost from what anyone can tell.

    3. NotaSonyEmployee

      Excuse me for misspelling your name abbreviated even in it’s abreviated form Kaz (not caz, lol) Morphine patch kicking in…

    2. Sam__NY

      What are talking about? It was filmed at E3 by someone’s hand held HD camera (mimaximax’s to be precise)

    5. NotaSonyEmployee

      Shadup Forza fanboys, or this cute liddle xbox360s gunna be wearin cement overshoes. I means it. I’ve got one tied up on my livingroom floor right now, with it’s little forza offspring, and it’s gen1 xbox wife. Me ‘n PS3 here, we’ll do the whole lot of em. Dump em in the swamp, see? You’ll never see dere beautiful little red rings of death again. We means it. We’ll do it…..
      …..
      …..
      …..
      I’m tellin ya. We’ll do it……
      …..
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      Aw crud, no we won’t. Called our bluff ya did.
      But I tell ya. It’s only cause I like Morrowind and Halo and they don’t wanna be no orphans, see?.
      Oh wait, I can get those on PC now. That’s it. Curtains for the whole lot of um….
      Now if I could just remember Where’d I put that dang quickcrete?

    7. tvensky

      HEY, wait a moment! Why you say “Forza is better” in here, go and play it.. got bored? WTF? how old are you fat american??

  60. FASJ6418

    Such a shame. Drafting (slip streaming for some folks)looks atrocious.

    We can’t have serious races with this kind of BS.

    Same as in Prologue, same as in the Academy Finals. I’m afraid they won’t change it until the game is released

    :(

    Hopefully they read stuff like this and realize we don’t want this unrealistic setting.

    1. tyl0r_r

      it’s on standard physics. it doesn’t take much brain power to imagine things *including drafting* will be different on pro.

  61. twinspark24

    Judging by the music…this is definately the Stig driving :D

    I simply respect Americans- this Nascar thing is so elaborate and exciting. PD, pls delete Nurburgring and Suzuka and all the pointless japanese and european cars.
    Two straights and two left corners are enough to make a real driving sim.

    I honestly do not like the McDonaldization and Americanization of GT. They include NASCAR, give them a release date a month earlier than EU, Do they expect any effect other than making me negative towards US fellow-drivers?

    I do hope modelling oval tracks has not taken 5 years

    PD, pls give me GT5 and some Ferraries, I want nothnig more

    2. Sam__NY

      Let me think, 400 cars?, or 1000+. I’ll take GT5. Plus, NASCAR is technically just 4 cars. Added to that the fact that Forza DOES have NASCAR. They’re just not the new ones because Forza didn’t have the licensed logos on them.

    5. benighted death

      hey forza sucks…..you clearly never played the game because forza 3 is right now the best sim on console..like it or not!

      maybe..i said MAYBE GT5 will be better,we dont know,graphic wise,yes for sure but gameplay and physics?….dont know yet

      one thing is for sure,i have all forza games and i’ve never stop playing them…forza 3 is simply amazing..best physic on console and cockpit view on all 400+ cars..

      i also have all GT games and still play them…its a great franchise,but i’m conserne about the cockpit view thing for GT5 and i’m also a bit affraid they put to much effort on graphics and MAYBE not enough on physics..i hope not but i’m consern with some gameplay video i saw…bumper cars anyone?

      i just wish we will have cockpit view on all cars..its a must for a sim,if not,its gonna be a HUGE disapointment!

      i hate fanboys!! they simply have no credibility!

    6. maxpontiac

      benighted death –

      You do realise you are on a Gran Turismo site being a Forza fanboy don’t you?

    7. benighted death

      hey maxpontiac do you realise that you are really retarded?well obviously no! or maybe you just dont know how to read?!
      its because of stupid closed mind people like you that theres not fun anymore to talk about games…because when you “dare” to say that you love 2 games of the same types on 2 different consoles..you have retards like you who dont understand anything,that think you are a fanboy (like you btw) because its impossible to like games,just games…you HAVE to like one console or the other…dont you maxpontiac?

      well,i have news for you,even if its clear that you wont understand anything…
      it turns out that i’ve been playing games for over 25 years now..and i always had every consoles on the market,i just love games,i dont care on wich console they are because honestly,you have to be retard to think like that,you dont work for sony or MS or nintendo..you dont get money out of your stupid fanboyism…you simply are just stupid!

      so finally…forza3 is the best sim right now..like it or not and we will see if gt5 will be better..and you know what?i hope its going to be better,not because i’m a stupid fanboy like you but because i want the games i like to get better every time..just like i will be hoping for forza4 to be better than gt5!

      so maxpontiac you have no credibility

  62. aelange

    Real snazzy vid!
    I can appreciate Stock Cars and ovals, but online is where these cars and tracks are really going to shine! To those who dislike the NASCAR feature, have you raced on any ovals online? Daytona in GT5P is such a trip online and it’s converted me to oval racing. Not that I’m watching any races on tv, but to be side by side, with 16 other players doing 300kmh, I think you may be surprised how much you may like it….

  63. ErrDiabolo

    The first culprit in this GT5/NAscar marrieage is the sound… I dont know if you guys saw those vids at E3, but they put in that OBNOXIOUS racing gear whine, totally muting up the engine sound and last time I watched, U hardly hear gear whine over the engine in Nascar. Another thing, the actual engine sound is too passive, it sounds like a regular Cadillac being floored…. Nascar engine sound is nothing short of brutal… Here comes some sacrilege, like Forza’s stock cars

  64. smoke1485

    I agree nick, f1 and nascar in their own rights are both great racing disciplines and people who bash them because they are too stubborn to understand its appeal are losing out. I for one watch all racing. What people don’t understand is that in one nascar race there can be more lead changes than in another race series entire season, yet its boring. How do you define entertainment then?

    1. twinspark24

      Soap operas with 4 000 episodes do have hundreds of “unexpected” memory losses, pregnancies and surprising family relations.

      Are they more entertaining than oscar-winning thrillers?

    2. GasolineJunkie

      twinspark24
      Are you trying to say that you watch soap operas all day? Cause you sure know alot about them.
      Terrible analogy.
      smoke,
      You’re right. Lead changes are constantly changing in NASCAR. LAast week at New Hampshire 3 different drivers led within the final 10 laps or so.
      Not to bash F1 but I’ve seen races where the lead didn’t change but a couple of times total.

    3. twinspark24

      So you didn’t know what happens in soap operas?
      My analogy is perfect- in my opinion lead changes do not make a race exciting

      rather, the monotonous and reperitive tracks make it boring

    4. tommygt

      Agree with twinspark…
      Gasoline – comparing NASCAR an F1 in that respect is so stupid i cant even begin to explain

  65. ismellbacon611

    i would really like to hear what the nascars engine sounds like …… to bad it was at loud e3 O.o

  66. Nick

    I’m English, huge F1 fan, but I have a lot of respect for NASCAR (as with all forms of motorsport) and watch most of the races on Open Access 3 on Sky.

    Most of the race is spent getting into position to win in time for the last 50 laps, so there’s a huge amount of pit strategy, finetuning handling so the car is at it’s best and staying out of trouble. Road courses, short tracks, standard ovals and superspeedways all offer very distinct challenges, and just hustling those cup cars around takes a very particular and smooth driving style.

    If you don’t get it, you don’t get it. It may be boring to you but it’s not for some of us, and having more real world series in GT5 makes the product better and more appealing for everyone.

  67. smoke1485

    Forza is better…so juan pablo montoya, sam hornish, dario franchitti, jacques villinueve, ron fellows, danica patrick, mario andretti…they are all redneck as well right?

  68. smoke1485

    Love all the nascar haters…good stay out of the online nascar rooms you’ll just screw up all the races when you hit the wall in turn one spin and bring a caution out on every restart. What was the margin of victory in the f1 race in canada? I’m pretty sure at new hampshire it was .75 seconds. That’s right it was over 16 seconds THAT’S SOME GOOD RACING!

  69. Forza_Is_Better

    Meh. Forza is better than GT5 in so many ways. First of all, it has a realistic damage model for ALL cars. You can customize your car in many ways. The physics are better in Forza. It doesn’t have redneck NASCAR. There are more tracks. It has a cockpit view for ALL cars. I know I’m probably missing a few, but yeah, Forza is better. Oh and Forza has skidmarks.

    2. Sam__NY

      Of course, because forza has worse graphics. That allows for more things such as cockpit view, damage etc. However, you forgot to mention GT5 will have 950+ cars, 70 tracks, 3 licensed motorsports, 16 cars on track at once, and graphics that would cause any forza fan boy to cry. ‘

    3. NotaSonyEmployee

      I was just thinking this topic was comparitavely so clean of the trolls, after spending a day hanging around the InsideSimRacing comments, but this goes to show why one should never relax too much, in case of troll ambush that is….lol

    5. aceboogie/craponforzaseewhathappens

      douche, what a liar, gt-better graphics, more cars plenty more tracks, more authentic (THE REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR) physics emulates real life not cardboard cars or clay modedls if you prefer, its more real its more real and its more real too. loser, slow poke, shut up and go by modnation racers thats more within your apprehension level.

    6. aceboogie/craponforzaseewhathappens

      shall i continue, oh I think I will, GT-weather, track editor, real-time day to night trans, people in the cars, better wheel, head-tracking, 3-d , multi display,GT TV with psp connectivity, better graphics hahahah!) and what im about to say next is also a repeat but its also when any true car enthusiast who doesnt care how they get but what they get….1000+ cars, START CRYING then throw yourself out of a window along with your broke xbox it might just save your life douche

    7. tyl0r_r

      Good to know the physics are better in Forza then in a game that you haven’t played yet. Troll/Idiot.

    8. cuco33

      I am a HUGE Forza fan (as well as GT fan) but seriously man… go troll elsewhere. Both games have pros and cons, both games are worth owning the system on their own, a fan of 1 franchise should be into the other.. Don’t come here flaming man… it’s bad enough the Timmy’s took over ever since E3 hit

    9. NotaSonyEmployee

      Hmmm, I,m guessing Forza_is_Better is between 10 and 13 years old, not allowed to play video games, or at least doesn’t have forza3, may not know that GT5 isn’t the same has GT5P, and probably tortures field mice has a hobby….
      Sooo, just for future reference, before you go trolling again, here’s a quick guide to common troll/fanboy mistakes to avoid:

      1. Don’t compare physics, since GT5 isn’t available, it’s a dead giveaway that your just trolling to say much of anything by way of comparison. This especially includes stating that you’ve driven both has a way to qualify your statements.

      2. Don’t bother with an apparent fanboy favorite of claiming you can’t turn off active steering and TCS in Forza. True, the other Fanboys and trolls will love it, but mostly it just proves you don’t know what your talking about and are two steps below villiage idiot.

      3. “better damage than GT5”, or “more realistic” has a simular problem has comparring the physics, has no one knows what the final damage model for gt5 is yet, but it is known that you can ram a Forza car into a wall at 120mph, still drive to the pits, fix the car in about a minute, and come out of the pits at 100%. Rinse and repeat. And though this has provided me personnaly with some fun, I can garantee you it’s not realistic. (please don’t try it at home)(Just in case you are two steps below the villiage idiot)

      4. “Forza has Cockpit view on all cars” What forza has is a dashboard view on all cars. Big difference. Aside from a few extra animations, it’s really just putting a background behind gauges we allready had. Oh, and some of Forza’s don’t even work, albeit only on a few cars.
      A cockpit view has it stands in GT5 has been shown to have a full 360* enviroment. That means GT5 has 200 “cockpit views” to forza’s 0 cockpit views. In Dashboard views, Forza may actually win that one, but I don’t think it’s the kind of win Turn 10 would like…

      5. “Forza has skidmarks, customization, etc,” While these could be seperated, I’ll put them togeteher if only to speed this up. We don’t know that GT5 doesn’t have the very same customization or not, and I get the impression the skidmarks may or may not make it in has well. I do know that some people want thiese things, but I doubt anyone is going to go “aw crap, no skidmarks, I’m selling this awful game”, or “Darn it, I can tune the engine, transmition, brakes, tires, suspension, and other performance areas, but dang if I can’t put a carbon fiber bumper and flame stickers on my car. I want my money back.” So even bringing such minor things up is obvious straw grasping.

      So there is a brief short guide of fanboy/troll mistakes that I hope hlpe you not to appear so transparrent in the future. I know I’m probably missing a few (or more than a few0, but since you allready did most of these in one post anyway, it’s probably too little to late anyhow.
      Was a good waste of 15 minutes for me though. Thanks.

    10. NotaSonyEmployee

      Oh, and almost forgot, since you obviously are confused, those three primer gray cars Forza has from ford chevy and dodge, the ones with gobs of horsepower, and only one seat inside, those are what we call NASCAR. Not to be confused with NESTLE who makes choclate milk.

    11. tvensky

      DUDE, this is wrong place to talk about other games, guys, learn from this “troll” mistakes :)

  70. hardvibes

    The music is boring, not the gameplay!! It should only be used for showroom. Facepalm at SMOQU GAMING…

  71. FlareKR

    The inspiration of NASCAR, when a red-neck looked at a merry-go-round.
    BTW our friend on the far right still can’t beat the first Sudoku level at 1:45 :D

    1. NotaSonyEmployee

      Actually, most car people would probably get a kick out of the actual beginings of NASCAR. Basically a bunch of bootleg moonshine smugglers getting together with highly modified street cars, and racing them around largely unpaved (but yes, oval) tracks. After that, they’d go back to smuggling and running from the cops in the same cars. Lot’s of cheating and hot tempered “disagreements”.
      Good show.

  72. TRDArtz

    wow, that looks boring…. Can I set the alignment so that I don’t have to turn the wheel either like in real life nascar?

    1. NotaSonyEmployee

      Sure, if you don’t want to pass, avoid the spinout in front of you, use the pits, etc, etc…. lol ;P

  75. GT-Relentless

    As an age old player of the series I have to agree with some of the thoughts here when it comes to GT5 possibly spreading things a bit too thin. Because I am worried that the WRC and NASCAR sections of this game may? be a bit watered down, compared to a fully fledged game on each sreies but I guess we will all find out fairly soon and I hope I am wrong.

    1. tvensky

      I’m afraid too, hope you are wrong.. ;) I’m a BIG WRC fan.. and knowing how real WRC works.. and how PD makes racing tracks.. its, hmmm… weird… What WRC is is = falling down the hill, smashing trees, damage, drit, every race is something different, every rally track is special… bumps, rocks.. well I hope PD got the right idea….

    2. Tim

      I agree with both of you , I love WRC myself I am looking forward to seeing what happens to the cars when you get a corner wrong and roll it over. and yep i also thing they are spreading a little thin.

    3. funrun

      Wouldn’t that be something if PD in the future were able gain the licenses for Nascar, WRC, F1, DTM ect. and release these as fully fledged games. The problem of course is PD collaborating exclusively with Sony which probably will result in this not happening. Plus they would have to hire a few more people to accomplish that in a timely manner.

    4. tvensky

      yea, I think if GT5 dont finish it in 100% GT6 will do the job for sure knowing PD… I trust them..

  76. tvensky

    WELL.. I LOVE cars, I love GT, I love Speed! this is for me I suppose.. even when “nascar” seems to be boring, I doubt that when I try it..

  77. KilzoneStrife

    maybe..Nascar+El capitan= cool. Around oval track…better not be one of the 20locations or a few of the variations :(

  78. nascar :/

    Oh come on! Nascar is so effing boring. You guys said driving it would be more fun..of coz it would. Just that I’d have a thousand times more fun driving a car in a real track

  79. PaMu1337

    Looking good, slipstream is still exagerated though, if they bring that down we can at least have some real nasca races (which are NOT boring!)

  81. NihilismOnToast

    Having recently watched the NASCAR races at Infineon and New Hampshire (this being the first time I had ever watched NASCAR live on TV), my interest was most definitely piqued. As Jordan said, the racing is very close and watching a restart after a caution is quite a spectacle as V8 monsters tear down the track, two abreast with mere inches between the cars. I can’t wait to try a restart in GT5. :)

  82. rpr101

    yeah. for those people that have not tried playing nascar than i am sure they are going to be in for a pleasant surprise when they try it. i raced with stock cars in rfactor and that sure is exciting especially when you are dead in the middle of a huge pack just trying to go up one or two positions is a challenge while trying to avoid major collisions with others. it sure is exciting even though it may not seem like it on the videos. once everybody tries it though im sure they would understand and i cant wait for some of these online races =)

    1. Shokz

      I thought exactly the same… Though it’s slightly higher resolution. I would have thought that after watching two hours’ worth of the same track already in a NASCAR cockpit/bumper it would have been enough, but i guess not.

  84. Skiddmarxx

    I keep coming back to GT Planet several times a day just hoping for some juicy morsel…while this one didn’t exactly satisfy my appetite it did help with my fix.

    I’m jonesin’ pretty bad for this game. Broke out the old GT5 Prologue…dusted off the wheel…it was fun for an afternoon.

    I can hardly wait…really looking forward to more tidbits from Polyphony.

  85. braden

    is nascar going to have the official rules and 43 cars when racing cause i sure hope it does in the full game or nascar will be a complete waste of time

    1. Mark

      I doubt they will have a full 43 car field. I just don’t think it would be possible for the PS3 to render 43 highly detailed cars. I would be surprised if they did. I don’t that will take away too much from it though.

    2. Jakemania

      I agree Braden. It seems pointless not to have the whole field in the game. Mark, I agree that they won’t have all 43 cars. That being said, I disagree 1000% with you saying it won’t take much away from NASCAR racing… The whole point of NASCAR is having 43 cars jammed together 2-3 wide on a small track. If NASCAR only had 16 cars in real life, no one would watch it at all. The only reason it is exciting is because of all the cars in the little bit of space.

    3. Belisario93

      Really, at any given track there’s only about 16 or so cars that would have a chance at winning anyways. The rest are just in the way. So it’s not much of a loss.

      Of course, this isn’t necessarily true with Daytona and Talladega, but at most tracks that’s how it tends to work out.

    4. AceArcadia

      43 Cars with the same Polygon modell should be not so difficult to render. Remember GTA3 and all other 3D GTA’s? You drive car x and all cars arround you are surprisingly also car x. As far as I know is this used to save system ressources, the same should work for GT5 :)

  86. riad

    watching may seem boring but playing might alot of fun.. forexaple the daytona track on gt5p is kinda fun and exciting when playing online.. its on the edge fun lol

  88. DemonBlade

    I appreciate what everyone is saying about Nascar being in GT5, but I highly recommend anyone with a raceseat and G25 to get the official Nascar game for PS3 and give it a go. It is hugely challenging and far more fun than you might think, so my expectations for Nascar in GT5 are very high. The real challenge from a Nascar race tends to be looking after the engine and tyres, as I found after a few races. I was nearly a lap ahead of the field after about 170 laps (real time) but my engine started to lose power. I won by less than 3 seconds and had a couple of mates sat watching who were on the edge of their seats. The feeling of satisfaction was huge :) If PD manage to recreate that along with their amazing graphics etc I think a lot of people will be pleasantly surprised!

    1. Maxiboy

      Well its extremely likely because there will damage which causes engine malfunction, who says damage has to come from hitting a wall, why cant it come from over working an engine?

  89. maxpontiac

    Well, this NASCAR fan is excited about the possibilities of racing is Stock Car.

    That and seeing a NASCAR machine on the other tracks too.

  90. Dom

    Nascar even for me as european is great and I love to see the 42 get some good results ;)
    But for GT5 I am skeptical. I really had some great fun with Nascar 2003 back in the days, but I feel that GT5 will not be able to deliver that Nascar feeling. But it’s good the cars are included and it wouldn’t be the first time that PD surpassed my expectations. So lets hope the AI and the slipstream system are tweaked to perfection for the final game.

  91. GasolineJunkie

    What makes NASCAR exciting is the fact that there are 43 cars on a track. And alot of those tracks are much smaller than almost every track in GT. Can you imagine that type of pack racing? If there is only going to be 16 cars on a NASCAR oval, then no, I don’t hink it will be as exciting as it could be.
    But if PD could duplicate NASCAR the way it is actually raced, then I think it would be one of the most difficult series in the game. There would be wrecks all over the place, and then people would complain about it being too hard.

    1. GTracerRens

      You are totally right about that. In the prologue it was to easy to overtake other drivers by just driving in the slipstream… This looks, however it’s boring, very good! :)

    1. NotaSonyEmployee

      That’s why we largely avoid building them into our road systems… ;P

      Besides, from what I’ve seen of the few roundabouts they have by me (florida), most people just drive straight across, through the center of them anyway, lol.

    2. Nemesis

      Some people have tryed that here as well. Without a lot of success I must add. What is in the middle of these roundabouts?

    3. NotaSonyEmployee

      There not like the european versions I have seen, with monuments, or grass and such, at least not the ones near me. Most just have open space in the middle. Brick pavers arranged in patterns are not uncommon in the middle, for looks. Ussually don’t have curbs, so you can sprint across pretty much no problem.

  95. funrun

    Loopy and non-exciting. This clip of Nascar with it’s music go hand in hand. I know it can be competitive and all just like anything in the world but I will probably not spend any time really running dozens of laps. In real life I hate it and it’s such a huge waste of gasoline (carbon emissions). If it wasn’t for the yellow flags it would be so dull.

    1. Sam__NY

      And F1, the least competitive sport on earth, isn’t? Plus, what racing fan doesn’t adore CO2?

    2. d3br34k5

      You gonna turn off the game when you have to lap a Cappucino around the Nurburgring?

      Talk about a waste of CO2…

    3. funrun

      Umm.. I’m a major F1 fan, yes they also burn unimaginable amounts of gasoline, the difference being F1 is a much more watchable type of racing, giving it a much more appealing reason to dump CO2 into the atmophere. Do you mean it’s less competitive because of the amount of overtaking oppertunities? 300 laps with almost twice as many cars track, it’s quite simply the American mentality, not thinking twice about the dependence on oil, of course you adore CO2.
      @d3br34k5 am I correct in assuming that you mean that simply being online racing that car along the ring in itself is a waste of CO2. If so I agree, which is why I hope the future slowly moves toward 100% renewable energy. Germany is the world leader in wind power I think close to 30% of electricity is clean of emissions. US is 0.1%. Until then I’ll whip a BMW or Ferrari around the ring, thank god i’ll be leaving the same carbon footprint as the person racing the cappucino.

    4. Sam__NY

      Yup, I guess Americans get bored quicker. However, regarding emissions, it’s racing. What do want them drive? Smart cars? I disagree completely and would gladly continue this here- herehttp://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=64596

    6. NotaSonyEmployee

      Crap, now I’m going to have wierd dreams about toyota Prius and honda insights taking 36 hours to race 500 miles around the brickyard…..

    7. lilmann73

      Sam_NY, a full sized GMC 7 passenger SUV gets better milage and giddy-up than a Smart Car. It also holds 5 more people.
      Just sayin’.

    9. funrun

      @Sam_NY Hey man I’m not gonna continue this convo in a thread about CO2 and subsequent global warming where people are going delusional when voting on the poll there. Anyone who doesn’t want to believe the first question/answer is the only one that is correct is terribly ignorant. Look man don’t take this too serious I was saying of course that NASCAR is a waste of carbon emission, in other words saying I don’t like it. I don’t exactly drive the most fuel efficient car either, that’s unfortunetly the the reality these days for anyone who loves racing but also cares about this amazing planet that was just a few decades ago reletivly clean. It’s really no laughing matter and it’s scary governments aren’t doing a lot more about this steering away from oil, when we clearly have technologies to do this.

      @lilmann73 WHAT??? Which model is this supposed to be and with what technology have they achieved this. Either I’m not getting you sarcasm or your just talking crap. Totally false.

    10. Sam__NY

      *sigh* Actually, it is a laughing matter (to me that is). I’d gladly convince you otherwise in the thread I posted a few posts ago (3rd).

      That’s fine if you don’t like NASCAR, everyone has their opinions.

  96. Vince

    Boring. Was waiting for a crash. But the models look great. Physics seems good. Can’t really yell much without being there watching it on tv though.

  97. starfox550

    Bump drafting, pack racing, nascar can be fun if you know what you are doing and are racing with others who also know how to race, there is a little more to it than 500 yards, left turn,500 yards, left turn etc. but nothing can touch road racing, I’m not american ;0)

  99. Mike1

    why do people take away the sound and put in this kind of music? is it suppose to look and sound exclusive or something? this old game on this old console… yeah, the game is old before it’s even realesed…

    1. Jordan

      This was recorded at E3 – in a big convention hall – so the actual sound from the video would be pretty useless.

    2. d3br34k5

      Shhhh, people are passing official judgements regarding the new engine sounds based off of these cam-corder clips!

    2. tvensky

      very, very late… guys, take this silly “first” stuff away…. ok? please.. this is not funny anymore… ;P

  104. Big Ron

    Let me advise: the video is by mimaximax. I accept this by the useless music. The guy has a great musical taste perversion.

    3. aceboogie/craponforzaseewhathappens

      what is the name of that song i want to put it on my playlist along with london electricy and any other good techno (i.e. MSTRKRFT)

    1. Sam__NY

      Like I said, it’s on standard. Added to that the fact that it’s just a demo. I’m sure they’ll be much more aggressive in the full game. (like we saw with the Super GT demo)

    2. Jordan

      I always thought NASCAR gameplay would be boring, until I gave it a try in iRacing. The racing was very close and it was difficult to get or maintain an advantage – wait until you try it, you may really enjoy it!

    3. JayKayEm

      NASCAR *is* boring thats why. I can push toy cars round a toilet bowl seat and get a similar recreation.

      Thus, PD have it spot on!

      /joke ;-)

    4. Belisario93

      People need to stop being closed minded NASCAR. Maybe watching it on TV isn’t that much fun, but actually going to a race, or being a part of it, has as much of a fun factor as other motorsports. I help a local NASCAR driver (he’s in the lower levels, below anything you see on TV, although he is pretty good) and being down in the pits and watching how things work and helping out when possible is a lot more fun than watching the cup series on TV.

      Also, the series that are shown on TV aren’t near as good as local racing in terms of entertainment anyways. There is plenty of close, clean, and fast racing in NASCAR, you just need to stop being closed minded and check it out.

      And NASCAR actually does take skill. F1 drivers (Montoya), Indy drivers (Hornish, Patrick), DTM drivers (Ekstrom), and V8 Supercar drivers (Ambrose) are all struggling in the series, even in good equipment, because there is much more to it than just hopping in the car, mashing the gas and turning left.

    5. FORZA_SUCKS

      Belisario93… i totally agree. its very hard to drive a 3450 pounds beast.(and in the demos we are watchin, the players are driving with standard physics. not pro)
      The crowds that Nascar beings to the tracks 38 weeks a year is unmatch by any other motorsports. they must be doin sum then right

    6. NotaSonyEmployee

      I’m being serious here, only 3450lbs? I would think it would be more. My station wagon stickers in at 5161lbs. Course it only has 200 horses, and alot less foot pounds.
      LOL, I think my wifes 2001 Civic weight was listed around 3400lbs…

    7. Kilborn230

      I agree with Jordan, please go play iRacing… it’s an incredible sim. I was never a fan of NASCAR but have found I appreciate it more since.

    8. viejaloca

      The video kinda looks fun, I mean, these cars were built for high speeds! Keeping control in the race constanly going 200km\h+ must be hard. When you think about it, making sure you hit every corner a the perfect speed and trying to keep that speed up for many laps without losing positions and your apexes must be pretty difficult. The ONLY thing i don’t like about nascar is the massive amount of laps! I don’t want my PS3 (or even worse- GT5!) frying from keeping it on all day!

    9. LoneWanderer

      @Belisario93

      You are totally right about going to a real race is much more fun in person. Seeing the Indy 500 in person was amazing.

    10. leiwei

      I started watching Nascar as a kid and was became very fond of sim racing on the PC since the early days of EA with Indycar and nascar racing games. I recall doing a 15 hr indianapolis race on nascar once and despite the graphics of ‘those’ days, it was still quite exhilarating – especially the accidental ‘oops’ AI crashes nearing the final laps and knowing the best time to go in to the pits.

    12. Luke

      I have to agree that Nascar should be more entertaining. Think about it, if you watch a F1 race, you get to see the cars once per lap. But on the oval tracks Nascar is using, you should be able to see the cars all the time. And the tracks are shorter, so even if you can`t see them on the other half of the track, they still pass you about 200 times. (200 laps, is that correct ?)

    13. leiwei

      I actually wonder where are the 32 other cars? It feels kinda empty with just 8 vehicles circling a track.

    14. NotaSonyEmployee

      Depends on the race length in milage vs. the track length. Simplified because I know alot of the members are on the metric system, if its a 500 mile race on a 1 mile oval, it would be five hundred laps. 500 miles on a 2 mile oval would be 250, etc,etc…

    1. G

      I noticed that too, by the fact the car got to within 2 miles of grass without acting like it had just hit sheet ice!

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