http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WZxx4XTzFI
By participating in the big Gran Turismo 6 reveal at Silverstone, I had the opportunity to be one of the first people in the world outside of Polyphony Digital to get some hands-on time with the game. It was, sadly, all too brief, but it was enough to give me a good idea of what the game’s new physics engine feels like, and to capture some of the first gameplay video footage.
Above, you’ll see a few (admittedly quite slow) laps around Silverstone’s International Circuit in one of GT6’s new cars, the KTM X-Bow R, along with a brief replay.
So, what does Polyphony Digital’s all-new physics engine feel like? It’s hard to describe, but let’s just say I think it will be hard to go back to Gran Turismo 5 after having experiencing GT6.
With traction control disabled and ABS set to 1 (I didn’t notice SRF was “on”…ugh, sorry!), it felt difficult to be “quick” around the track. However, the car was also easier to control, as if I had a better sense of the level of grip available at each wheel and exactly what the car was doing. It felt good.
When I play an older Gran Turismo game, I notice a kind of “numbness” or “dullness” in the handling characteristics of the cars, after having become accustomed to GT5. Now, I think I will feel the same way about GT5 the next time I play it.
The audio which you hear in the video was recorded via the television’s line-out headphone jack. It’s mono (single channel) sound, and doesn’t quite represent the sound that I could hear through the TV’s speakers. Although it’s not a radical change, I did notice a rougher, more visceral texture in the engine note that was more satisfying than what’s provided in GT5.
Regardless, Polyphony Digital’s work with Yokohama and suspension company KW Automotive has no doubt paid off, and the changes were immediately apparent to me after having spent only a very short time with the new game. Stay tuned for more exclusive GT6 gameplay and menu footage coming over the next several days.
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the SRF complaints is alright, since that thing is a joke
but the sounds? c’mon, is that hard to simply ignore the game and waste your money to get forza 5 for the xbox done when it’s released?
I want to be blown away PD.. I first thought GT6 looked more like a GT 5,5, now seeing this gameplay(though I can’t talk for handling), this looks and sounds more like GT5,2.
This sucks, I hope that demo makes up !
What are you expecting?? Its a racing game.. They’ve added a new physics engine/better visuals more cars and new tracks. What do you want?? Fighter jets?? Actually…
and plus that part wen u go on the track and it tells u the weather and everything,………….*ahem* I noticed that I think that its a copy from forza 4 cause they have that too
and I believe that Toca had that before Forza.. So Gran Turismo copied Forza which copied the Toca series… But then Forza also copies from gran turismo.. But that also means that Gran Turismo copied from Toca??! I have a headache..
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!I paused it and saw some of the cars they put in lol
A couple of things I noticed: The car was behaving like were locking up your wheels under braking a lot, which indicates there has been a big change in the physics model. Secondly, anyone else notice the tires weren’t rotating in the in-cockpit camera view? I’m sure PD will fix that by launch, but I thought it was kind of funny.
The tires where rotating, if u look at the replay at the end you’ll notice there are 4 mood flaps covering over the wheels. The mood flaps use the same material as the dashboard.
u know y Schaden,cause that’s the fenders ur looking at! lol, if u look at the pic of the car really closely then u will c fenders(every car needs fenders)lol hopefully u saw this message!
I haven’t even made it halfway through GT5 and 6 is coming out this fall.
Then you still have plenty of time unless you have very limited gaming schedule.
Everyone complained that it took 5 years to come up with GT5 and now, after 3 years, we get one complaining that GT6 is coming out too soon!
BE HAPPY ya mongrel…!
Well, i’m looking forward to the game, I just hope it will have all the cars I want.
It won’t at first!
The DLC’s will make up for that though…
All those nice new cars to pick from and you choose the KTM Crossbow? The worst track car ever made. Yuck.
“I swear to god that i want to never hear the word “KTM”, “Cross” and “Bow”.”- Jeremy Clarkson
he is the man
I’m watching the gameplay video now with my 2.1 speaker system and the engine sounds rather good, I think PD have done a good job with the engine sounds. The Bass notes sound nice and raspy and sounds great when its accompanied with the higher pitch whine at higher revs. There is also a great sense of range in the notes as well. It sounds WAY better on speakers then it does on TV speakers. There was nothing wrong with the engine sounds anyway, its just that a lot of people don’t understand that a car like a ford fiesta doesn’t sound like a ford mustang… I prefer GT sounds, they sound more natural…. Forza and Shift engine sounds are constantly angry and in your face all the time which although can be very exciting, prevents me from feeling like im driving the real thing. This whole thing bout GT engines sounding like a vacuum cleaner is just fanboy bull and it’s a shame because it’s putting negativity on the game.
+1
That is quite impressive looking. I only saw one instance of severe pop-in, and this is not even the final build. I am very excited to see how this all develops.
I have Sony Everything in my Living Room, including Bravia Surround Sound, and GT5’s Notes were still underwhelming to my ears; but some of the Comments I’ve seen here suggest that a change to the Settings is the answer, next time I start up GT5 I’ll give that a shot and see what happens..
It would be pretty embarrassing to have missed out on this simple solution for so long (if it works), but if it does work, one of my only problems with GT would be solved..
As I’ve said before and as I’m sure most of us have seen in Videos and Pictures etc, Polyphony’s Staff use mics and other equipment to capture the sounds of each individual car they scan and model for GT games, the Authentic Notes should be there..
Use an optical connection for best results….the sound output settings in gt5 options menu are only fully available when the right ps3 system output sound setings are selected..the auto select is ok but doesn’t always come on if my external amp is switched off.
its all dependent on your external amplifier capability’s …DTS is very good for most home theater systems..but I prefer 5.1 as I have 5 x full range speakers .
I have GT5 set to small theater as large theater makes things fall off the wall..like pictures and plaster..
I have a 5.1 home cinema setup and gt5 still sounds weak whereas shift 2 on my pc thru 2 speakers sounds awesome ! Stop defending weak points we know what they are and the gt6 game is a joke could of been dlc for gt5 . Hyper disappointed by gt6 on ps3 all this content should of been dlc which they started well, then it became a joke because obviously they changed their plans and just added all the dlc content to gt5 to sell it as gt6 . Gt is surpassed now and they are on a downwards slope with gt6 , just look at what is coming out project cars, assetto corsa the new forza and race club they will all make gt look like the dinosaur they have let it become . Fan boy attack commence .
Very amazed that you can make that assumption from one vid. Also, with different physics you couldn’t add this as DLC to GT5 – so I rather think it’s a different game and was intended as such from the start.
I also don’t see the sound as a weak point – but have fun with your other games. I just know I’ll be having fun with GT6 and Drive Club too, though quite possibly for different reasons.
gt5 numbness , kinda says it all!
Gran Turismo – for when my mom wants me to vaccuum-clean my room…. ;)
I think that joke passed it’s expiration date dude.
It still is true though, so it is no joke!
No it’s not – well it is if you want to believe it…
For all those who feel that GT6 is no improvement on GT5 – go and take a look at the GT6 photos and videos thread in the GT6 forum. There are more vids up now and some good discussion, so a lot more to go on.
Sigh, the car sound still sounds terrible, c’mon PD. I would hope that these engine sounds would be fixed by now. I don’t really see anything of significance in GT6. Hopefully it’s still too early to tell but I’m hoping they really fix the horrible car sounds in all of these GT releases.
I seriously cannot wait. I really want to see how far the PS3 can be pushed to handle the new effects.
Crappy sounds – Check!
Flat kerbs – Check!
Yeah… I think I’ll pass on GT6…
Kerbs don’t look that flat to me, certainly in a few pics I’ve seen.
You have got to try the Sony Wireless Stereo/Surround Headphones. They make the current engine sound pretty good.
Any improvement should be an order of magnitude better. Honestly folks, try them. They will open up your other PS3 games as well. Just saying……………….I mean your hear footsteps clearly in combat games along with shot direction cues.
The only thing better is a well put together 5.1 or 7.1 surround system. The Sony phones are worth every cent.
I got one, and yes they do make GT5 sound better. It’s pretty cool to hear cars, especially go-carts, coming from behind. Got mine before they implemented that new “extra bass” software in the newer sets. I’m a little hesitant to pick up and try the new ones because I fear they won’t sound that much different.
Something I just noticed that I hadn’t before – you can hear the turbo blow back when the gears shift, at least in the cockpit view, anyways.
I dont remember hearing that (though, I haven’t played it in a few months) in GT5…
ive heard it in gt5 in a few of my turbo cars one of them is the mazda 6 (atenza) which I could really hear it
None of the people commenting about the bad sound have invested in a decent sound system that can reproduce the sounds of an engine accurately. Yes it takes more speakers than the ones in your television to get a proper audio experience. Please, before posting about the audio, do yourself a favor and go buy a 5.1 surround system to enlighten you to the audio nuances present in GT5. The sounds in Gran Turismo honestly make Forza sound like Need for Speed instead of a racing simulator. I love to hear the blowoff valves, big loped cams, and crackling exhausts.. they really nailed most all of the premium cars for their sounds. The Pagani Zonda R, Ferrari F40 and the Cobra 427 are all great examples of sound acoustics which make me giddy :) Start up any one of these next time you play and just play with the engine notes, its very satisfying. Have fun and get driving some vehicles!
Yes ..get a sound system and sit in the middle of it…or change game sound output settings…to suit..
I have 5.1 surround and it sounds fecking brilliant!!!
So why do all lambos sound the same? The aventador doesn’t have a v10 in it. The 350z doesn’t have that chewbaca exhaust sound real life has.
Well they do for half the premium cars the other half is literally a vacuum, m3 sounds horrendous, 350z no Chewbacca distinct sound. The list goes on. The 787b has a really ugly rasp at high rpms. The shifting transitions are so fast it seems like the cars have a triclutch set up(sarcasm) no but seriously they need to be improved
With your logic a vacum cleaner will sound more like a racecar on a good system than a racecar on a bad mono system… It doesnt work like that. I can tell you a game that sounds good – Battlefield! And it doesnt matten what system you got, sounds good any way. Sorry but i dont think polyphony knows how to make sound effects….
@Hotrails17, sorry bro but you are way off. Watching an ALMS/NHRA/FIA GT/SuperGT/GrandAM/WEC/Traxxis Pro Trucks/Nascar/etc. race on my old TV with crappy speakers sounds just fine. So now what?
I’ll tell you what. Sound option sliders:
Tire noise ….l..
Engine Bay .l…..
Cabin sounds …l…
Air rush …l…
EXHAUST NOTE ……l
Transmission …l…
Crash effects ….l..
Enviroment …l…
Crowd Noise ….l..
^put these in the options menu and everybody wins. The sound argument would instantly fade into the past, allowing us to b**** about bigger and better things! Hhahaha : D
Keep in mind this is NOT the final build. This looks like just a DEMO. I wish the poster would have made clear this is recorded off a video camera and not directly of the screen.
I agree, the sound SAMPLES are what’s lacking. regardless of what sound system you have, the car is just going to sound boring and slow…. But this is a Demo so we’ll have to wait and see, so far i’m not impressed.
Funny to think I could probably beat Jordan in a race :3
you get that impression after watching a guy try out a track for the first time? Man. That’s some cold s***. I bet, all things being even, he would smoke you out like Snoop Lion in a ’64 glasshouse.
Play to have fun, its not about the Sounds or graphics…………….. Just sayin!
Yeah, but good sound effects and nice graphics enhance the game, thus improving the fun.
The better the game is on all fronts, the more fun it will be to play.
All Guys who say “the sound is good” go to youtube and watch Raceroom Experience Zonda R, Bmw Z4, Audi R8, Radical ect…
This are Carsounds…!!! That gives you heebie-jeebies :)
I suggest the sound on said video is edited for the medium it is on….sound within an inviroment is a lot more complex.
to recreate that sound you need an apropreait sound system..DTS or 5.1 sound within a game were your caricature is the center point of the inviroment…differs tremasly to DTS or 5.1 in the movies where by the viewer is static ..it’s simple…if you understand the fundamentals af gameing…get a sound system to match the sound in the game sit in the middle of it and then say its not right…don’t try to compare the 2 different formats they on not the same….GT5 is very well orchestrated sound reproduction…if your still not sure how it works…then SSX tricky demonstrates this exact point in a video included in special features demo.
@ TetreRouge
I just did as you suggested and watched a few KTM X-Bow videos on YouTube and I can assure you that the X-Bow does not sound a thing like a vacuum cleaner. It sounds pretty throaty and tasty actually. GT6’s version of the X-Bow in this demo sounds absolutely nothing like it’s real-life counterpart. The sounds in this GT6 demo are clearly brought in from GT5. That would leave me suspect to believe that GT6’s sounds will be that of GT5. So far the air and tire noises are that of GT5. I am still hopeful that that’s not the case and GT6 will have re-vamped engine notes, but I’m not holding my breath. It will be a pretty big disappointment for me if GT6 doesn’t get it self up to speed in the sound department and level with other racing game titles.
Here is something to think about. If Kaz says GT’s sounds are “too realistic” and “too perfect”, than how about we imperfect them a little bit and make them a little less realistic, at least for the sake of enjoyable game play. GT has some really good sound effects and they way the sounds change as the car gets closer and further away is just about perfect and awesome, but the engine notes are so disappointing and dull it just ruins the ultimate driving experience. So maybe throw accuracy out the window and do what you know actually sounds best instead of getting all technical on us.
I know that’s a bit hard to believe but PD have actually used real recorded sounds since GT1! I think the problem lies in the way they do the recordings! The low pitched sounds like the howl and growl of the cars are almost lost but if you turn up tremble/bass on your tv it actually sounds kinda awesome! I made a video once on my crappy tv with a stock gallardo to prove my point! The video is called ” gt5 amazing sound lamborghini gallardo “! Do check it out, then adjust ur tv’s settings and live happily ever after :p
I completely agree. If GT6 sadly uses gt5’s sounds I’ll be pretty darn disappointed. A good game needs to be good on all levels, not just looks or handling but sound too. If sound didn’t really matter it wouldn’t be there in the first place. And I think what Kaz meant by the cars sound too realistic is maybe when the car turns on when ever you switch cars, otherwise I have no idea what he means. You can never get too realistic.. thats the whole point.
Thanks Jordan for your feedback and first impressions.
Looks interesting so far. Not getting my expectations up but hoping to see a few issues on my list addressed – I’ve always been baffled by some of the decision making in every installment of this series. In any case, still very early going so looking for more info over the next few months….
Also hoping that ‘GT Academy 2013’ will be the GT6 demo.
if only he could make some deal with a good sound recording company as well… I can’t believe we will still get this GT1 era designed sound and these 800+ standards in GT6… You really have to be a starving fanboy to accept this two biggies.
Is this the demo we might be seeing come July btw?
No thats GTAcademy. It begins in July.
Update: There will be a GT6 demo accompanying the start of GT6, so you were on point Shawtyoner. It just got posted in the news thread while I was writing. :tu
Jordan you know we all love you man.. But not noticing SRF was on is a foul :/
Im looking forward to seeing the changes they made and i just hope they dont fail on the car customisation cause GT5 really needed it :)
They ve should listen to forza 4 audio to learn how to do it.
People are to quick to criticise PD instead of being passiont, judging everything about GT6 on a 4 minute video is an insult in my opinion to PD, more will be revealed at E3 and then we should have a better insight into GT6.
@TheGTGuy The complainers are really just mad cause GT6 will be on PS3 IMO. Jordan broke down why the sounds are the way they are, and gave a synopsis of how the games physics felt to him but the “Hateration Nation” has chosen to ignore that. Theyre only happy if they can express their negativity.
I do agree with you bro.
Yeah, it’s all pretty much a knee-jerk response, and you may have a point about the PS3/4 divide there PC. I also agree, people can’t know everything from a single vid sample.
This is to all those who are already critisising GT6’s sounds.
If you use a sound system, crank the bass, and listen, you will technically hear thunder. The sounds really are that well developed for the lower bass notes for most cars.
However, when you rev the engine past 5,000 RPM and beyond, you can hear that PD have implemented artificial noises, which sound terrible.
To conclude, lower RPM is the real thing, but higher up is pretty much computer generated.
P.S- The X Bow sounds awful in real life, so listen before commenting!
Trolls, Xbots and Forza/NFS/Grid fanboys are jumping the gun on the engine sounds.
As far as we know so car the engine sounds are neither good or bad because we don’t actually know. We’ve only heard one car in action, on a bad quality camera, and people are jumping the gun?
Also bear this in mind; the KTM X-Bow isn’t a nice sounding car, it pretty much sounds like a vacuum in real life, so it’s going to sound like a vacuum in most games to be bluntly honest.
If you actually left the armchair and went out to see racecars in action in real life you’d actually know what you’re talking about for once and if you had braincells you’d do a youtube search to hear just what a vacuum the KTM X-Bow sounds like, first time I heard the KTM X-Bow was at Race of Champions and it sounds (and looks) like a vacuum.
Lets suspend judgement on the engine sounds until we hear a good 10 or so cars in game.
As for those whining about the sense of motion in the cockpit view, If you actually got off your butts and drove at the limit on the track then you’d realise that the ‘sense of motion’ is the last of you worries! You’d be more concerned with being able to get the car to do what you want it to do as opposed to nit-picking the scenery!
Lets stop bashing skulls on keyboards, joypads and egos etc. and actually use our braincells for once shall we?
But don’t you understand that this is always whats said when defending bad sound quality Its always oh its a bad recording, its only a demo, its only one car. Yet as time has proven its never the case, the sound quality was and has always been below par. Its should not only sound good with premium and expensive sound equipment, because if that is the case, PD’s sound department has failed doing there job, plain and simple.
Hopefully, they’ll show a few more classic rally monsters at E3… While we’re on the topic, when is E3…?
Sonys E3 is the 10th of June.
Thanks a bunch ;-)
cockpit view is horrible again, like it was horrible in GT5! u dont feel the car is moveing, its to static!
———- Poly pls take a look at PC games how to make a good feeled cockpit view!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and somethings more, ……..the virtual wheel should be disable if its not synchrone to the real wheel (in game 200 degree, in real 900 degree)
…….if they dont change this no one will use cockpit view, most driver will again use bumper view
Sir, he wasn’t holding the camera far back enough to show the whole screen!
JUST CALM DAOWN
@howeller Sir I fear you may be making a big fuss over nothing. Hurry along to bed now, and be sure to put all your toys away neatly.
Just sharing my views regarding the new gameplay footage and the ‘criticism’ people have being giving GT6. So for a I am happy with what I am seeing with the new gameplay footage, Polyphony said that they had improved the physics and you can see that in the wheels/suspension of the KTM reacting to the road surface. You can also tell from watching the trailer that cars have higher polygon counts and textures and lighting have been improved. I just hope that GT6 will have a longer campaign than GT5, I hope they get rid of the B spec campaign and just have one campaign with the option of entering races with A spec or B spec modes. I am not too concerned about standard cars, yes they can ruin immersion a bit when you see them on the track, but i cant really remember having to drive a standard car in the campaign, maybe a couple of times.
Now I just want to give my opinion on ‘criticism’ given to GT6;
Engine Sounds – In my full honest opinion, there is nothing wrong with the engine sounds. I have played Forza and I have Shift 2 on my PC, the engine sounds sound nice but are far from realistic. Shift 2 engine sounds are far too distorted as though they are coming straight from the exhaust when im in cockpit view. And as for forza? I remember driving a ford fiesta in the game and it sounded like a WRC rally car… I think the main difference is that Polyphony are aiming for accuracy, so if a car sounds dull in real life, it will sound dull in the game. the KTM uses a VW 2 litre I believe, not a big v8…..
GT6 is just GT5 spec 3 – I don’t really agree with this at all, there wasn’t really much difference between GT3 and GT4 except GT4 had more cars and tracks, a new campaign and a different interface but yet back then people saw it as a new game. And to be honest, more premium cars, more tracks, a better interface, better physics and graphics and a new campaign is all that I want really. You can’t expect the game to look and play completely different since as though its on the same system, just small improvements that add up to make a difference.
Standard cars – I agree with concerns, they do ruin the immersion a bit when you see them on the track at times. But I don’t think they are a major issue, it’s not like you have to use them regularly, you can virtually ignore them. Polyphony added them in because it gives us more choice if we wish to use em. I can’t see more standard cars being added, the new 200 additions are likely to be premium cars making it 800 standard and 400 premium cars. And 400+ premium cars is absolutely fine, remember in GT3 we had to ‘make do’ with what 190 cars in total or something like that?
Just my thoughts, peace guys.
Good common sense – shame we have no kudos voting on here.
Random Musings..
I wonder if PD could increase the number of Vehicles on-track with GT6 still on the PS3, I honestly doubt it will happen, but it’s something I would have loved to see, also wished they had let Jordan join a Race instead of a Time Trial–that would’ve given us a window into seeing if AI improvements were made..
I’m also interested in the Car Customization possibilities they mentioned, I wonder how in depth it can go and will there be anything along the lines of a Livery Editor..
Graphically I’m still satisfied with our current game, Visuals shouldn’t have garnered too much attention, I hope more work went toward the Gameplay such as a more expansive Career, I also missed being able to switch between A-Spec and B-Spec in Endurance Races etc–and of course improvements to Aesthetics are needed like Sound and Vibration Feedback, to hear Proper Skid sounds and V8 Growls in GT would create shivers.. I’m sure they will do something about Engine/Exhaust Notes, there’s no reason why others can and they can’t..
This Demo was just to show us that they are working on it, and Progress is being made, after E3 there will be endless updates, videos, and screen shots.. Trust that I’m not on the Hype Train though, because I bought GT5 on launch and tasted the bitter taste of Standards and Dirt Devil Vacuum sounds and basically blew through A-Spec in no time (got into B-Spec later), this time I will wait and listen to others’ overall feedback before I purchase GT6, but I have stuck with these guys for 15 years and have hopes that they will be able to get back to the Top with this one..
Lets hope you can play ps3 games on ps4 so we can buy ps4 and play gt6 on it :)))))))
As long as it plays great like past GT games I’m all on board for GT6. I just want more online multiplay options like a drift mode for example and better graphics if that’s possible.
The comments on the you tube vid is a bloodbath, it seem the Forza people have infiltrated it. Forza seems interesting but everyone knows it looks like your a small RC car traveling at warp speed.
I am an avid GT fan.. just not impressed with the sounds.. GT is better than Forza and has nothing to do with engine sounds in GT..
Looks great, but the same awful sound has ruined it for me.
siigghh… yep.. they have 7 months to release the game.. that aint gona change. however!.. the big problem to me wasn’t the stock sounds.. they sounded pretty good.. the problem was when upgrading the engines the sounds would get completely different.. biggest example is the 458 italia.. stock sounds great 1st exaust upgrade sounds not so great.. 2nd upgrade sounds like a completely different sized V8 and 3rd upgrade sounds like the baby trex screaming in jurassic park 3…
and the lamborghini gallardo sounds exactly like the 548 italia when both exaust systems are upgraded fully.. makes no sense..
The Baby T-Rex one made me seriously laugh out loud lol..
Erm, it’s not the game, the KTM X-Bow really does sound this aweful in real life. Maybe if you left your armchair and drove a few cars in real life you’d find out?
Oh, ambient temperature! Something that was missing from tire strategies! Awesome! Makes me even more excited! Can’t wait for the demo and then the full game!
Loading times are somewhat faster just well hidden with fancy transitions more premium cars, better ui, new tracks. Okay it may be looking to be close to a patch rather than a new game. But they made little improvements. Cod just changes the toilet but it’s the same shat.
I am buying this regardless like everyone else here. But we as loyal customers won’t just bend over and take a game heading the wrong direction, improving Those sounds will satisfy me is all I an asking for! there is a reason why the LFA is my favorite car
Wow, some of you are just complaining just for the sake of complaining.
Anyone here that has ever drawn a sketch, built a model, made concept, developed a rough idea, recorded a video, wrote a song, or done anything creative from the ground up should know that this is NOT A FINISHED PRODUCT. There is still a lot of work to be done graphically, sound wise, and perhaps in the physics department. I’m sure when these changes take place they will release that information to the public. But don’t be so quick to judge this as if you’re in your living room playing it for yourself.
I’ve been experiencing Gran Turismo since 1997 and I’ve been there through every step of the way and I truly believe that GT6 will be a huge improvement over GT5 because Kaz listens. If you want Forza, go get it and leave the car and driving enthusiasts alone with the negativity. These comment boards will be a much better place without all of the complaining.
Yeah, willing to bet with you that the sound will not be improved much.. we will have the same sounds in all future GT’s. Something is awry here.
Great work Jordan!:)
Did you notice any clutch simulation?
I’m sure the KTM has a sequential manual right?
Gear changes weren’t seemless were they?
Even if the clutch isn’t simulated,I don’t mind.
I don’t think any sequential manual has clutch stimulation programmed into the game.
I noticed that in GT5 that it wasn’t even necessary to use the clutch pedal when using a (gated) shifter while driving any (premium) car equipped with a sequential manual.
Kaz. It must bite. You devote your life to this “game,” I mean 15+ years is a big commitment. You set the state of the art in the genre. People are never satisfied. Please know that for every snivley little whiner below, there are 10 silent lovers of the game that will be around long after the new wears off and all these complainers quit visiting the online rooms.
Kaz. Thank you very much. I realize that the GT series has been an integral part of my gear-head-dom. The “game” has given me an opportunity to experience racing, the tracks, and the cars in a way that was inconceivable 20 years ago. I really do appreciate it, almost every day.
The game looks amazing. I am excited and looking forward to it.
Jordan! For Shame! SRF on?!? Oh, I think now I’m doing it. Jordan, thanks for the coverage and the gameplay footage. Keep it up.
Ha ha. …be careful it’s easier to be critical….than grateful…+ 100 thanks Kaz and polly..
+1 :) very well said
Have you guys not developed a competent filter for places like this? Get better at ignoring the ridiculous whining from the spoiled children, and the constructive critisisms based on deeper thought will stand out and benefit all of us so much more.
Filter that mess out like baleen!
Good post. It really must hurt to hear about all this complaining, no matter what PD do it’s always there. If I was a developer, I know I wouldn’t listen to this lot anymore.
I have to say though it is difficult to see in this off-screen footage, the tarmac looks really good and detailed. Since I spend all my time in GT looking at that (I use bumper-cam), I think that’s a pretty important feature.
Very nice interface. Much more pleasing to look at and navigate. Sound seems improved a bit. I like how you can see the suspension at work. It gives the impression some new physics are at play or something.
Graphic wise, it only seems marginally better than GT5. But to me, any improvement is welcome when it’s on the same system.
Wasn’t a very thorough first impression, but it makes me think it will actually be better than GT5.
I’d be happy with marginal graphical improvements if they addressed the shortcomings of GT5.
We’ll just have to wait for more info, but let’s hope that Kaz was listening.
Polyphony Digital’s work with vacuum cleaner company Dyson has no doubt paid off.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I don´t like the sounds as well but the joke is old and not even funny at this point because the sounds are a great part of the immersion and this is getting absurd.
“LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL”
…..How old are you?
Nice video, thank you very much for making that!
Looking forward to modify my car like i want.. i hope different paint styles or editor to create your own striping. November sounds like a ralistic release date, cause they promise the next 6 months of revealing info. About the DLC they promised every month.. they did promise alot on GT5 so i’m not sure it will hapen every month. I do hope it will.
I’m looking forward to GT6 and the new cars and tracks, but seeing that footage reminds me that Silverstone was built on an old airfield and consequently is flat, featureless and gives no sense of speed – I wish PD had given us Brands Hatch instead which is an infinitely more enjoyable track.
Hers hoping they give us Brands Hatch eventually!
Still sounds utterly crap,huge let down
It says in the piece that its recorded in mono, try reading before posting a comment
People will say its not done yet, but we all know it is, they would not add a new car in a demo with the same rubbish sounds as before. Such a huge disappointment. I guess the car becomes an electric car when looking in reverse mode in exterior view?!?!? GT5 did the same, its such nonsense. Please for the love of all that is good and green on this god forsaken earth, get a new sound department!!!
if you want gran turismo sound sound better then buy a home theatre system. trust me you will be shocked at how real the cars sound.
Just to be clear, I am still super excited about all that was announced yesterday. However, I really wish Kaz announced, ALL OF THE IN GAME SOUNDS HAVE BEEN REDONE AS WELL!
@GTHEAD87 I understand that, but we shouldnt have to. If T10 can make Forza sound glorious through TV speakers, the PD shouldnt have an issue doing it either if they would just try harder. Granted yes, FM sounds can be a OTT, but at least that visceral sound is exciting, instead of dull like GT’s.
sounds good to me you:)
@ sepulturite. maybe you need to practice what you preach to a higher degree…plus what has mono got to do with anything?
just to be clear this is about gt6 not battlefield? while im on the topic, if bf4 is like bf3 then its gonna suck ass.
back to a real game. I’ve read that the sounds have been redone? good news. i expect some standard cars in the game but to be honest, the s1 quattro rally car is a good sign for other legendary cars in premium. can’t wait.
@GTHEAD87
I have a top-end stereo system and GT5 still sounds like crap. OK, there’s maybe 50 cars that sounds pretty good but the rest are awful.
i meant to post the bf thing public. you are right about forza tho, dirt 3 too. i hope they have clicked on and sorted @shawtyowner
About my posted video, it’s recorded with a poor microphone… So difficult is to record this sound and put it into the game ? For a sound engineer that’s should be easy, after 8 years developing GT5 and GT6 !
Graphics and physics seems great to me, but i’d add some drama like race videos, it’s too clean and perfect the graphics and physics of GT6 for me.
@leeson that is kinda true. i do wish for better sounds but i guess we have to deal with it.
Gt head..I think you have sorted there problem…never sounds good until the wife is out and I can let the 5.1 rip..then it’s just awesome…trust us…I can here cars coming down the other side of the track….but not all sound systems are good….get an optic input…truly much much better…
If your not using a top notch sound system you must reset your output sounds on the ps3 and game for your speaker set up..or it will sound crap..half the sound is missing on standard stereo tv’s unless u change the settings to match…
@biftizmo thank you. that is what i was trying to point out. even the screens resolution is way out of anyone’s league as the tv’s are too expensive.
@squeezethejuice – I take it you’ve never heard a record played in mono and then in stereo and then quadraphonic…huge difference.
Wow they are still fabricating the sound instead of recording them, how is it that Turn 10 can record the majority of there car sounds but polyphony digital can’t. People say sound isn’t that important, but to me if you think that you are not a car person. One of the great thing about cars is the noise they make and I have never heard a car that sounds like that. Lets get to the physics, looking at it the tire model seems to have improved very little, there is still far to much grip when turning in but I won’t no for sure until I’ve played it. The main problem is Forza 5, turn 10 always vastly improve there games. This might be the final nail in the coffin interms of GT for me.
Jordan admitted that SRF was on the Demo so there is still hope for the Model, and I noticed that every time I’ve seen footage of their Staff analyzing Cars they HAVE the Mics and Listening Devices at the Tail Pipes and Hood/Trunks of the Vehicles taking down Sound Notes, but they just aren’t in GT5, I don’t know why that is–but there is still time before they finish this, furthermore the Sound of the Video is a recording in Mono so it has to sound better than that.
I agree that if they let their Competitors hand it to them again as they did with GT5, Polyphony will have a huge problem on their hands, now their is a Simulator (that shows promise) heading for the PS4–a direct challenger that may woo the Sony System Faithful, so Forza may be the least of their worries..
I’m personally hoping that Polyphony will come out on top and reclaim their Throne, it is one of the rare Gaming Companies that actually care for their Products and the People who buy them (you can mask it under a subsidiary, but Forza will always be linked to EA in my eyes, and that’s an automatic turn off lol), GT is the Underdog for the 1st time since it imported over here in the 90’s but it is still GT–which means they WILL give us something worth buying..
Can’t wait for GT6 now. Looking forward to all the new stuff that’s been implemented, and to anything else Polyphony reveal in the coming months. I wonder if there will be more cars on the grid, and qualification like there used to be. Only time will tell I suppose!
The cockpit view seemed to shake more realistically when you went off the course than it has in the past. I’m glad to see that, too, as I always thought it was a bit too rigid in GT5 for my tastes.
I would have loved to see a car with more shadow detail showing during the replay, but it’s looking very nice so far.
Hmmmm, I wonder if no one bought this game then if they would release all the DLC, including the new 7 tracks, for GT5?
Wow, I am most impressed with the gameplay and the new cars they have as well as the new Silverstone track! Also, if I am not mistaken, I think that Alpine and Lamborghini pictured in the video are premium now! Can’t wait to find out!
” I think that Alpine and Lamborghini pictured in the video are premium now” —>>> Obviously they are !!!!
7 more months of Petty immature complaints. What to do what to do.
People have the right to complain. We don’t want the same sounds period.
I don’t think they have the right to complain based off a Youtube video recorded in mono. Wait for the demo – though there will still be complaints then, no matter if it is improved.
Indeed, what to do?
Magi Ayrton, ummm did I mention sounds? No I didn’t and like Mean Elf said why go overboard picking apart a 5 minute video of an Alpha Build video. Its Petty.
*Alpha Build Demo*
@ kolloson : i played GT5 every day…!!!
the sound is bad, very bad…
800 Standard Cars was unreasonable…
But you must give me right…! Do you belive 1200 Premium Cars….????
Not in GT6
I cannot wait… you’ve really showed this game will be great, Jordan. Awesome.
Oh, and also, I love the graphics. The way they made things sort of pale and not too lush and vivid like Forza, makes GT6 look truly real.
Agreed.
Yep, I like the way the graphics are looking too – seems to be a good improvement.
It still sounds like a damn vacuum cleaner, and probably 1000 of the 1200 cars are standard cars and look like you are playing GT3.
It’s a big DLC pack that they claim to be GT6, well good for them, i think people are stupid to fall for it.
GT5 was not worthy of the name, and they will have to work hard to Make GT6 worthy of its name, looking at the time it took to create the crap they called GT5, GT6 can’t be finished by the end of the year.
Besides that, i expect to be to busy anyway with actual finished games by the end of the year (GTAV, BF4 etc)
@MRSkyline, are you buying Battlefield 4 on PS3 or PS4? It will be out PS3 in October 2013?
PS4 November 2013? Dont buy that for PS3… Ive “heard” its 100% Battlefield 3 game engine and asset wise on PS3/360. Its bad enough Battlefield 3 on PS3/360 looks like an illegitamate child of the PCs BF3
@KilzoneStrife Some genius invented a magic box called a PC once. It’s a very nifty device that allows you to do all sorts of cool stuff, like battlefield. Shooters on consoles instead of pc is like racegames with d-pads instead of a wheel, it’s stupid.
Yes, PCs are great but consoles were created for people who didn’t want all of the faff with constantly upgrading and needing to tweak things to run a game – the two cannot be compared. Have fun with your other games.
Content wise I’m not hyped, yes the Xbox is cool, the SLS GT3 and the Alfa prototype looks sick but that’s about it.
Physics wise I’m hyped.
What is this… a game for ants. Worst Gran Turismo ever. Why did they have to change everything. Gran Turismo 1 was perfect, let’s play that instead.
There now that I have covered all the haters, looks good, can’t wait.
Zoolander!
Hope that manage to squeeze in the 3D into this one too … GT5 is sooo much better in 3D
That/they **
People are looking at this like its the completed game, they should look at it as a pre-alpha. Just like with Battelfield 4, a lot of the things are probably placeholders.
Isn’t it coming out within the next 4-7 months?
As a 36 year old man who has spent most (all) of his formative years with every version of GT I consider myself to pretty well versed in all this hullabaloo!!! Firstly, we’ll done to Jordan. Excellent work. You must have had a great day their at silverstone. Very jealous. As for the release of gt6, I love the whole process.
We’re so blessed with modern technology now, not only in gaming but in communications to, that we want everything and we want it now. The hype is all part of the process now, and always was, it’s just now, there seems to alot more ‘aggression’ towards developers, the game, the supporters etc. It’s quite frustrating to see people seemingly wasting their time on done to death rants about which is better bigger faster ….
We are users of gtplanet presumably because we have a positive interest in GT. So apart from the odd troll, all opinions are valid.
Getting to the point, my opinion of the recent announcements is mixed. Initially it was that child like excitement of Christmas Day. “I have to unwrap it now, oh why is the live blog down?!” Ha ha. The fact that we are on the verge of a fresh instalment of the franchise, with plenty of time and experience now under PD’s belt onthe ps3 should mean that even though its not going to be next gen game (for now) it should really show us what the PS3 can do. So, excitement and intrige reigns.
Going by the demo alone, in the context it is presented and in which it is viewed, my absolute honest initial opinion was comparable to that of a child who had unwrapped the same present twice. “Oh, I’ve seen that before” I’m not ungrateful as I appreciate a lot of time effort and money has gone into its development and that it’s going to make far move use of the consoles capabilities but initial impressions from where I’m sat are that this could quite easily be GT5 to look at.
GT5 is a good looking game. Maybe a bit to clean and pretty for me, but still, graphically, one of the best out there on any platform. So have we arrived at a point on this gen console that visually it can’t be improved? This is isn’t a case of going from gt1 to gt2. And is that important?
Are the physics, race dynamics, ai, competitiveness more important? Personally, I think they are. And this demo does little to ‘demonstrate’ any of that. But hey, the demo is all part of the marketing hype machine. There will be more releases in time. But to pick up on a point raised earlier, if there is any expectation that in the next 6 months the game is going to change much graphically, i would think that to be a false hope. It would be a hope that I would share, but I can’t see that happening. Graphics are important and I think we’ll see PD kick butt in that department again with gt7 on the ps4. But let’s not start the hype on that one just yet hey!!
gt5 has its issues. The ones that get my goat are more to do with the racing mechanics and the system performance. Screen tear is so annoying. Consequences of actions, oil spills, blown tyres, engine fires, aggressive ai, bumpers hanging off and falling off when doing 140 down the back straight, bunched up racing touring car style, qualifying, an enforced flag system, a proper online race experience that is akin to iracing.
So in summary…..!!……. Gt6 demo looks like silverstone dlc for gt5. But I’m still hungary to learn more.
I don’t post often, but when I do, stand aside!!;)
Some good points and some bad ones.
All of them are good points to me, I agree with Bishop 100%
go on then, squeeze me!
@Jbishop..I’m with you there mate all the way….add me up we will have some races..I remember the days of the first games…and always looked forward to the future…GT5,PS3 and internet technology surpassed all my expectations..I new it would be good…and it’s all good to me
@biftizmo, sure i’ll add you up. I don’t play as often as i would like, but happy to turn a few laps at some point!
@squeezethejuice, you haven’t squeezed me yet? what did you consider to be the good and bad points?
No bad points for me ..I never understand the complainers .no hype train here….2 years playing gt5 And still getting free content…wow..I never thought there would be any major improvements to game engines or sound…graphics? Shouldn’t think there’ll be ewt coming until super HD is more widely available I.ve only just got HD tv to match ps3…now the Internet is more world wide available the Academy couldn’t be better placed…the back lash to this is the social network explosion…I think this is why GT5 has had a revamp..looks like pd are on this with announcements of multi platform and forward compatibility…
Now we should see plenty more DLC…and all those old tracks with weather and time changes …roll on deep forest ,Seattle… Photo locations …events….improvements to loading times smoother interface..what more could we ask for….for me wish list…maybe real time weather..events…and livery editor…we shall see when Gt6 is out…
Probably because he’s all juice and no squeeze…
This looks and sounds almost the same as GT5..
Im SO hoping for a “REAL” driving simulator. But a square nissan 180 with max 400 hp, that sounds like a F****** vacuum cleaner, that is simply not “REAL”..
This is so just gonna be a patched GT5 (minor changes), i bet….
PD better step it up, or they will loose alot of players…
Yep. When I first heard all the details, I was, initially, somewhat disappointed. Then I thought to myself, well if it comes with much improved sounds, frame rate, no screen tearing, all standard cars to premium along with its announced things such as improved track creator and physics etc. then maybe…just maybe, it would be fair to call it a new game and not just a patch. Secretly, I even thought that the graphics may well be improved a lot more than I and perhaps a lot of other people could believe (see Uncharted 1>2).
Now I’ve seen some footage, the only thing which is a cert at the moment is the improved physics (and by how much will only be known when I play it myself), along with:-
– the sounds are not, if at all, improved what so ever.
– the graphics are not improved at all.
This looks like it should be GT5 Spec 3 via patch/dllc and feels like a rip off as far as I can tell at the moment.
Unless I can transfer credits, cars, all dlc cars & tracks I’ve already got in GT5 (which is kind of the point of GT – my cars feel like they’re mine lol), I shall not even consider GT6 (it’s looking highly unlikely at the moment regardless) – just keep GT5 and buy DriveClub instead.
Until GT5, PD could do no wrong and I trusted their quality implicitly – I could list a multitude of things what I would call major things in GT5 which were just not good enough (especially when lying had occurred – remember the damage will be to the last nut & bolt!)
Other little things like changing the force feedback, the sparks, the wind, the shaky camera etc etc which were adjusted/taken away with no options for those who wanted them the way they were, grated me over time…
I really missed a lot of tracks too.
They are in danger of loosing a customer to one who will only be interested as and when they prove their worth and more than likely, some time after their game has been released…(see above points)
I must admit, I’m surprised at the fan boy comments – that’s part of the problem…
@ Longa23, 800 standard cars? where did you get that from, oh yes out of your bottom, we have no idea of the content of GT6 in terms of cars and as has been repeated many times on here……
The audio which you hear in the video was recorded via the television’s line-out headphone jack.There seems to be alot of MS fanboys on here, proberbly worried that GT6 is gonna look and be better than Forza 5 a bit like how GT4 on PS2 blew Forza 2 and 3 on 360 out the water lol
This is just an excuse, Jordan even said although the sounds were a bit more….they were still pretty much the same. Go and listen to the sounds in Drive Club.
That’s true….
The Fanboys comments are the Problem….!!!
It’s common sense that there will be standard cars in GT6.
Drive the XKR-S please
iracing have the best sound from now…
1200 Cars
800 Standards + 400 Premium + Vacoum Sound… I’m very disappointed…
Waiting 4 Project Cars…..!!!!
Project cars have horrible sounds too and it’s still on pre alpha
Shift 2 is not a good reference though – GT is not working with sounds very well (Shift does), but it has pure real sounds without any edits (Shift doesnt).
jamesst99: 7 environments not tracks!!
Still 7 tracks with variations (backwards, part course etc) I think..
“In my opinion, if you take a person that knows nothing about Gran Turismo and show them this video and then show them a video from GT5, they would think its the same game, and to me, that’s worth calling it a patch and not a new game and that’s disappointing.” second that !!
Vacuum cleaner FTW !!!
and who denies the reality is lying to him self .
And if you think the cars sound like a vacuum cleaner, then I think you are also lying to yourself – or you have one helluva vacuum cleaner…
I was worried about the menus but i think they look fantastic this time arround, like those beatiful white menus in 4, and for what i see the gampleay looks quite different, what do you think about it? does it fell that different, for better or worse, from GT5?
Sounds spot on…
Jordan did say in the article that he thinks he’ll have difficulty going back to GT5 because this feels better, or more realistic – something like that.
Wheel rotation still looks like it’s ridiculously small. Why PD why? At least give me the option to turn the hands off whilst driving and then let the wheel turn as my steering wheel turns in my hands.
No Livery Editor????? Too bad!!!!
Ugh, hasn’t been announced yet…. Try harder…
WHOOO!
it looked very different to me, especially that crash…
hope gt6 have a long, high quality career and more alive tracks… and I highly doubt PD modeled all 1200 cars premium.. they cant just delete standard cars, and they cant just model them all that fast… either way, there is only one way to do it right, PD have to create all 1200 cars premium, and then use those cars in future ps4 titles, with better track graphics and damage…
Thought the crash looked the same?
Would be great if they model all cars Premium – at least ready then for GT7 on ps4 :-)
In my opinion, if you take a person that knows nothing about Gran Turismo and show them this video and then show them a video from GT5, they would think its the same game, and to me, that’s worth calling it a patch and not a new game and that’s disappointing.
Well you and your imaginary friend could also say the same thing about SHIFT1/2, FORZA3/4 and so on… Its a NEW GAME so get over yourself…
Mature guy.
Why thank you. >:)
Point proven.
Agreed.
I’m not so sure about that. the member arohn over on the GT6 coming to PS3 thread posted a pic from GT5 parodying the GT-R on Autumn ring with the leaves – there is a clear difference.
Sure, without actually looking at examples of both, your memory will probably say ‘they’re the same’ – but if you do do the comparison, there are clear, visual differences and Jordan feels the physics feel different too.
can’t wait for another 9 months for 7 boring tracks!(yawn). that’s 10 bucks a track. yeah gt6.
Pre-Alpha. I think people are not remembering. We still have over half s year for the game to be done. Everyone needs to stop slating on GT with no good reason.
Seven locations that you don’t know which they’ll be, well, not all of them…and you are already bored? It must be rough being so omnipitent. I feel for you…
I’m looking forward to what else GT6 can bring to the table when more details are revealed. The early gameplay showing the new suspension model looks rather promising.
I’m more interested in the core gameplay experience rather than just sitting and picking holes in the product. I don’t care if the sounds will be terrible, I don’t care if standards return and I don’t have the insane OCD that some people have when it comes to how the cars look in game. If there is a decent offline and online experience, that will be good enough for me. This is of course just my personal opinion and we are all entitled to our own.
I’m not getting on the hype train for this game but I look forward to what GT6 will be capable of.
Driving simulators are about getting the closest to the real thing, so graphics and audio plays a HUGE role in a driving simulator.. I don’t have to be OCD to care about what’s supposed to be in a “Driving Simulator”
Replyed to the wrong comment, dont i feel silly. Im on my phone thats my excuse
;)
For me, it’s all about gameplay, too. What I found really disappointing about GT5 is that the career mode races were so short and so few championship series. I really liked the championships, one make races and special challenges in GT4. I also liked licenses better in GT4. There was a lot of variety and a lot more to do. GT5 had the Mercedes special events which were absolutely awesome imho. GT6 needs more of that.
Another thing that I found really annoying is the lack of true racing! Every race in GT5 career mode and seasonal events you start in last place at least 15 seconds behind the leader. Racing needs qualifying and standing starts and no rabbits and competitive AI.
My only hope is they fixed the fun.
The sounds for me is still insipid and flat :(
Need for speed SHFT2 is yet a reference for me of real and inmersive sound !
Slide sound have to be improved also, its a too constant sound, in real life is more changing more imperfect you have only to ear a video of amateurs in track to realise it…
“The sounds for me is still insipid and flat :(”
“The audio which you hear in the video was recorded via the television’s line-out headphone jack. It’s mono (single channel) sound, and doesn’t quite represent the sound that I could hear through the TV’s speakers.”
Agreed @ oneloops
It aint GT6 if it still has those vacuum cleaner sounds.
To say this site is dedicated to Gran Turismo and fans of the franchise, the negativity on this site never fails to amaze me
Any idea of the FPS? 30/60?
zero sense of speed,. can’t wait to race against super boring a.i. should have just gave us all, lol, 7 tracks as dlc! wheres the championship editor? do we even need a gt6? feels like a rip off to me. because they are soooooooo slow with dlc, this is all they offer? fricking 7 tracks?
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You gotta understand that it takes longer to model a track than it does one premium car. And while I do agree that 7 seems a rather small addition, I can appreciate that we are at least getting new tracks.
Are you dunce jamesst99? YOU CAN MAKE A CHAMPIONSHIP….
“Players themselves can create and manage their own online events”
+1 Toko. I can’t believe the negativity on here, the game isn’t 100% complete yet, does no one realise this? It’s not like its being released tomorrow! Some people need to stop throwing their toys out of their pram.
I mean offline, like the one in gtr evo.
If you want a false sense of speed, then Grid 2 is the game for you.
Thanks to Jordan for capturing this, along with all the other news yesterday.
I’ve a couple of performance related questions
– Do we know if this running at 720 or 1080 resolution?
– Was there any tearing of the screen during play? Jaggies?
– Load time seems to be improved in Arcade TT, did you happen to notice if the same was true in other parts of the demo?
– I’ve seen GT Academy quote a demo release date of July, was this confirmed? Were there any other announcemets regarding Prologue or prerelease versions?
Yes please Jordan?
I’m not overly excited to be honest, I was hoping for them to take their time and make an epic gt6 for PS4 (after drive club)
I don’t buy that crap either about it’s mono sound.. You can still tell the sounds are crap.. Not overly impressed with this ‘revised’ polished version of GT5… Personally it’s nothing to be hyped up about fair enough physics and handling are improved but all the tracks that were promised for gt5 and all this DLC that never happen is just making it’s way into this version.
Ugh, come on really?
Logged back in today after a long time (took me 20 minutes to find my password lol!) after seeing this comment. SPOT ON!
@ TokoTurismo – really? REALLY?
Yes, really…
And calling the excuse about mono sound quality crap, is surely a direct insult to Jordan as he is the one saying that. No one can help that you’d have prefered GT6 on the PS4. It looks to be more than simply a revision. Well, okay it is revised in that it’s improved, but that could be said of any series game.
I thought that GT5 using maximal PS3 capabilities… but turns out there’s still room for improvement… I’m amazed by how powerful PS3 is… I think GT6 would be awesome, and GT7 surely on PS4… would be AAAWEESOOOOME!!!!
I was gonna buy Xbox360 to play Forza 4 or Horizon, but i guess i only need GT6, no need to buy expensive new console.. just the game for what? $60? ….sooo happy, save your money :)
^ Agreed. :D That’s why I’m so happy that GT6 is going on PS3. And the best part, we finally have Car Clubs and be able to do championship races online, and the freedom to create our very own tracks in cities and even other areas. :D W00T! :)
Well, it did use pretty much all of the capabilities. But you can use things more or less efficiently. With the new renderer and the adaptive tessellation it seems like they get a better result with the same hardware.
You have twice as much time to do things if you halve the frame rate. Maybe that’s what’s happened.
Its incredible, this site is for Gran Turismo fans, here we have the announcement of GT6 the game we are all waiting for and now we have the first hands on in game footage, i just can’t believe some of the comments, everything i have read and seen is so positive and looks great yet people are finding a way to complain, i don’t think these individuals are true fans, more than likely Turn 10/MS plants on here to stick the boot and do as much damage as possible, its rediculous. Everything so far about GT6 looks fantastic, this game is going to show Turn 10 and other developers how its done, a true return to form from the greatest racing sim franchise on the planet.
it’s called having an opinion.
Just let them complain as much as they want.
I really really really care about what they think.
:D
I agree, GT6 is taking some hard knocks, but it’s still standing. Everything so far looks great!
^ Hyped. :)
It’s probably disappointment shining through. If you were expecting GT6 to be all about new cars and new tracks it doesn’t seem like it’s going to have much to offer initially. We’ll see about the DLC, but personally I’m a little sceptic to that “every month” quote from the presentation – as it was said more or less indirectly and wasn’t printed on the screen. So I can understand if some people are upset about that.
In the end it’s a question of buying the game or not. I will definitely buy it, so far it sounds like a massive upgrade from GT5 in many areas.
It’s been M$’s m.o. this whole generation. You see, M$ brainwashes their gamers, so whenever there’s big Sony PlayStation related news on the internet, those brainwashed shills spam every comments section on the web related to that Sony news with negative thoughts and reactions to the awesome news.
And Turn 10 employees in particular are known to do the same thing as the brainwashed M$ fanboys (which I call Xombies) in regards to any Gran Turismo news or updates. They and their half-arse-sim-racing-game loving fans coordinate negative comments. You can even see them teaming up
It’s an effective tactic for controlling people’s thoughts, even though it makes them some of the niggest lowlifes in the gaming industry and community. People are starting to see MS and their shills for the scum they are, and in turn gamers with a mind of their own left are distancing themselves from the Xbox brand.
same boring slow,made for and by a retard crap , absolute supercars still beats this!just kidding! great job pd!
lol
My farts sound better.
Well go sniff them if you want,If Jordan say’s they sound better,then i believe him.
Way to many whiners.
Spoken like a true 10 year old.
That looks great! I am so looking forward to playing GT6. Also, we saw the Jaguar XK-R S at the beginning so we can add that to our list of confirmed cars.
Would love to try the Silverstone GP Circuit in a Toyota TS030-HYBRID or Audi R18 e-tron quattro. Kaz make it happen please…
so, this is going to be going head-to-head with PS4 and Drive Club? possibly Nextbox and Forza 5? good luck with that Kaz.
Sony’s really milking the last drops out of this particular cash cow.
I personally don’t particularly mind because they need the money. I do however think it won’t help with ps4 adoption for some people although I now know I’m likely to go for Drive Club (even if is not a simulation racer) as long as its got plenty of options (maybe others will feel the same).
In some ways, it could be a blessing in disguise for GT7 even if it does mean we may need to wait up to another 4 years for it. It may be built from the ground up with most of the leg work done on GT6. Nah….who am I kidding, they’ll probably still do a GT6 port as well as a GT7 prologue version so then it will be more like 4 years plus!
I may have to take a media blackout though for all GT6 and GT6 dlc in the future cos I sure know it will do my nut in if I see some tracks I’d like! Arrrrrrrrrgh!
Check the threads because you won’t be waiting four or more years for GT7. Anything on the PS4 will be more like half the development time.
The new suspension is looking really good! The way the weight transfer makes the wheels bounce off the track is amazing! I can imagine the downhill races on this.. and I can also imagine the roll overs! :D
I can’t imagine Nordschleife without drooling.
Sounds very nice :-)
Silverstone looks fantastic, looks the real deal.
Jordan, thanks for your coverage. And now I know what you look like, sort of!
Wow! i’m actually really hyped about those new suspension system, looks cool! i will buy this game for shure on release.
Jordan,
Did you drive Countach 74′ in this demo?
Is this car really premium with fully modeled interior?
*Forgets to turn SRF off*…
*Spins out* lol
I’m not going to judge the game yet! But, If this is how the game is going to be as far as audio i seriously am going to consider passing on this game. On GT games I’ve always preferred to drive Rwd V8 Muscle cars because i would rather own a 65 Shelby Cobra or a Gt500 or a Cuda over any super/hypercar in the world. But as we seen with GT5 V8’s quickly turn into honda civics with fart cans. Hearing the sound of a proper v8 adds so much to the experience Forza’s audio isn’t the greatest but at least they get you damn close. This just being a quick demo i’m hoping they fix this issue because i’d rather have real sounds an no rims then have 1000 rims with crap sound. I wont scratch this game yet but if they fail to impress me like they failed with gt5 then i won’t buy this game an i’ll just buy Driveclub an pass on gt altogether. PD DON’T TURN GRAN TURISMO INTO ANOTHER COD. But i’m thinking around thanksgiving we’ll finally see the full game so there plenty of time to see whats coming an if this games worth spending the extra money on.
Here here I almost totally agree. I will still buy the game but I would rather PD put more effort into the “driving experience” i.e. sound than stupid damage models and rims
My goodness me, the constant whiners about the engine noise, did you not read Jordan’s post???
“The audio which you hear in the video was recorded via the television’s line-out headphone jack. It’s mono (single channel) sound, and doesn’t quite represent the sound that I could hear through the TV’s speakers. Although it’s not a radical change, I did notice a rougher, more visceral texture in the engine note that was more satisfying than what’s provided in GT5.”
He is like us and wants the best of this game and I for one am looking forward to this improvement. It’s looking fantastic – the game has not yet been completed. Lets stop the GT6 bashing one day after what we have all been hanging for – a peek at the next GT. By the sounds of things PD has taken a lot of what the we, the fans have requested into account.
It’s not how the sound is transmitted, but the sound sample its self. It just sounds so dull and boring no matter how much you crank up the volume. That’s just my 2 cents.
2013 models vacuum cleaner
My goodness me he drove ONE car with a decent noise. There are a couple of cars in GT5 that sound adequate, NOT all 1000+ unless you consider “adequate” to be that the car makes some semblance if an engine noise.
We pay money for this game, we would like to get out moneys worth out of the game. PD and Kaz tout the GT series as a simulator we expect the cars to simulate their real life counterparts sounds as well as their looks and handling
you and other people here don’t no nothing about engines to play this games like gt or forza.
did you know that this car has a 2 liter from a golf r and not an American 5.5 v8?
great video by the way, all cars premium and this game is to play every day
With srf on I don’t think there is anything qorthwhile to be said about the physics. Srf just adds some much strangeness that it just pointless to make any comments about the handling. That may sound harsh but it is also true.
Overall I’m getting just a huge dejavu with this annoucement. Just like with gt5 there are tons of new different things mentioned and in the end the final product that was shipped did not have any innovative features in it. But in that sense it should be really easy to improve from gt5 on so many areas. Only thing that remains to be seen is that whether pd can do it. Their history says no but being optimistic does not cost anything either…
So, Engine’s sound seem a bit better than GT5????
Oh come on people. Stop bashing the sounds. After I did my homework (I knew nothing about the X-Bow, reason why I criticized the sound in my first post) the sound IS more than correct for this car considering the type of engine.
Yes, it has the same sample than the VW Scirocco, but isn’t it a 2.0 TFSi form Audi/VW what this car has? I think it’s spot on! And if it’s the loudness what you’re all mad about, can’t you see that this was recorded of a screen? I’m sure the sound effects are as good or better than in GT5.
The only thing that could be improved is the turbo sound though.
(My apologies, PD. You really did a great job in this one.)
it’s got Audi S3’s TFSI engine with 300 hp
I have NOTHING to apologize for. I pay for this game and as a paying customs I have issues with the sound quality of the product I pay for
Any vids with other cars? Maybe a vintage?
“Stay tuned for more exclusive GT6 gameplay and menu footage coming over the next several days.”
You guys have to remember that the KTM is often criticised for having almost no audible engine sound so don’t take this as a benchmark for new engine sounds.
Sound a lot like my old Electrolux vacuum cleaner with the power head attached.
LOL i thought it had more of a Hoover or Dyson tone, but yeah you’re right.
I though us old fellas were meant to be the grumpy ones – jeez, I’m seriously surprised at the amount of negativity that apparently can be extrapolated from a sample.
Well that’s what PD get. GT5 didn’t get the core gameplay, racing (especially against AI), right. Than there were huge lacking areas like the sound engine and standard cars.
And now it all seems to hint at GT6 doing all that wrong again, with the exception of the things we haven’t seen yet (like actual racing… like it matters for Gran Turismo anyway).
I’m glad people don’t blindly overhype GT6, if PD thinks they get away with all the flaws from the previous game on a new full title release 3 YEARS later, then they are a little too arrogant, and hopefully their sale numbers will be insanely low.
I’m just surprised as you are MeanElf. Over one little sample and there are annoying babies crying already…
…and the fanbois are defending already…
Toko, I’m actually worried about GT’s future and PD’s attitude, because I don’t want it to turn into a bad, few innovating game series. Right now it does from what we’ve seen and what info was given. Has nothing to do with being a baby.
Really? Well. Lets wait for Jordan’s Q&A to be posted up, I’m sure it may cheer you up. ;)
That’s rather my point KiroKai, people commenting on ‘what seems to be the case’. Wait until the Q&A and more gameplay is probably fairer, dont you think?
And you should know by now that calling people fanyboys, even if you respell it, isn’t cool on this site. I’m still amazed at what can be squeezed with regards to improvements out of an older console. So I for one will take what we get because I have enjoyed my time with GT5…actually a lot more than I did with GT4 or 3 neither of which I have replayed – possibly for the reasons Jordan mentioned in the covering article.
No improvement in sound?
Admitting to not reading the srticle that went with the pretty pictures?
Great engine sound can do half the experience with a car and what a shame, this is exactly another vacuum cleaner. They didn’t touch the sound engine a bit :o(
So far, it looks like GT5 extended and not a whole new version of the game.
Honestly, I’m not as excited as I was in the prerelease of GT2, GT3, GT4 and GT5.
Agreed.
The static chase cam remains, as does the poor sound, which is only rather decent when you use…
chase cam! GT5 all over again. And let me guess, 80% of the custom exhausts, especially the ‘titanium racing’ ones, will still sound like fartcans just like they did in GT5?
I really don’t see what’s the fuss about when this could just as well be GT5 Spec 3. Actually it IS Spec 3, just named different so they can sell it for money.
AGREED+1
its a GT5 evolution.
But have to wait E3 for further informations about it.
Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. announced today that Gran Turismo ® 6 (GT6 ™), the latest title in the best-selling PlayStation ® series, will be released in the third quarter of 2013. The news was announced today by the legendary “Gran Turismo ®” creator Kazunori Yamauchi at an event on the occasion of the celebration of the 15th anniversary of the series sold over 70 million copies. Thats what they saying 3 quarter not 4
Oh my lord. Looks like my wallet’s going on a diet later this year, with Saints Row IV, GTA V, and GT6 all coming out within 5 months of each other!
HAHA! Be ready, because I’m sure there will be a collectors edition for both. Prepare your wallet!
I’m so hyped for GT6!!
Me too!!! :D
Jordan,
Did you manage to run an arcade race?
I was wondering if they’ve update the split times to the car in front of you instead of the car out in front….
AUDI! AUDI! AUDI! AUDI!
No, really, I want to see some gameplay with the Audi with that new tire and suspension engine. That’s going to be epic!
Yeah I too would like to see how they end up crashing because of the understeer ;)
Yeah. An old Quattro with 800 hp and a heavy 5 cylinder hanging from the nose isn’t really the best choice for a tight tarmac track.
Physics look very Good ! THX PD THIS IS WHAT COUNTS IN GT
Hmm, the visuals look very cheerful (that’s not necessarily a bad thing), and the shadows don’t look quite as blotchy as GT5’s.
Very cool! except I have to be honest, the car sound isn’t very good. :(
Yeah. Wasn’t expecting that at all for a 3 year game development!
Seems that P.D forgot to clean their ears out!
Looking good, great job PD
The car that was in the video sounds like I think either the VW Golf r, or VW Scirocco r in GT5
Absolutely gorgeous! Thanks Jordan :)
All I know is that these will be the longest 6 months of my life… That is if the game doesn’t get delayed, which for some reason, I feel it won’t this time.
I hope it doesn’t either. Come Kaz and PD, you’re doing just as good as Sony are doing with the PS4. Don’t give up. :)
I’ll tell you the reason why you feel it won’t be delayed: it’s GT5 spec III.
It’s a whole new game for me. I really wouldn’t dare to say is GT5 Spec III. Besides, how much do we know about the game, really?
GT5.5, GT5 Spec III, GT6. I really don’t care. It’s a new GT and I’m glad I’ll have a decent (if not the best) racing game for at least the next three years or so until GT7 comes out for the PS4.
Well said HuskyGT, and I highly agree with you on that. GT6 will be the best game ever.
Kobooi….. Get over yourself calling GT6 that crap. Nuff said……..
Honestly, Gran Turismo has always been a victim of its own paraphernalia. Never fully achieves what they advertise, or what the community out of exaggerated reactions expect. It is just a mild simulator with huge budget on a console. That is it, guys. No whining would be as nice as no blind worshipping.
Basically everything that I have said in one post.
Speak for yourself mate, If u don’t like GT5 then don’t play it, simple!
I like it, I’ve played the franchise to death from 1 to 5. I just don’t blindly worship stuff like some, and try to provide constructive criticism to the devs. If we all said this is amazing they will never improve the game… Oh wait… :)
It’s a Demo, and being supportive of PDs effort to enhance our experience, is not blind worship. It’s being Positive. As usual Haterade reigns supreme.
Jordan had a ball. Ill bet he’s still smiling from ear to ear. Like MeanElf said, good job.
3 cheers for Jordan, Hip Hip Hooray Hip Hip Hooray Hip Hip Hooray. :)
The Turn10 employees are working hard on GTP tonight. lol
No, it’s not that I’m a Forza fan.. Don’t even go into that. I’m just sick of the people getting mad for criticism and pointing back to the age old excuse of ‘it’s just a demo’. Most games that show at briefings during the summer with fall release dates don’t see much change because the game has most-likely been extremely far into development so major changes will not be seen. If PD surprisingly makes radical changes to graphics cars ect. then I would have something to say.
You got all that from a demo? Unbelieveable.
I honestly don’t understand what the complaint is about towards a DEMO…
I love the morons arguing over the fact that it’s a demo. Either they will delay the game and release it later than the fall date or PD will try and iron out as many bugs as they can. I don’t see this changing much from the demos other than some graphical and physics tweaks. Stop making excuses.
My ass Sony will let PD delay a HOLIDAY SEASON this year. Just stop, seriously….
I expect a delay, it comes with the territory, just like negativity comes spawns from misery. Im still buying GT6.
I played the Battlefield 3 Beta a month or so before the full game came out; aside from the obvious, like bugs and glitches, the graphics weren’t smoothed out and the physics didn’t work correctly. Are you seriously telling me that you believe a press demo six months before release will be an accurate representation of the final game? Battlefield 3 was vastly improved in one month from being hands on with members of the public (which caused some to claim it’d be terrible… I found them amusingly naïve too), Gran Turismo 6 has six to fix whatever issues you saw that you feel would detract from the experience.
As I said, I expect some graphical changes and physics tweaks and nothing much else.
You also like the sound of your own opinions enough to repeat them. And calling people morons…never a smart move.
Naturally, you’re entitled to your opinion, but stating it once is usually enough, okay?
It also seems like he knows very little about game development, six months is an immense amount of time. In thirty they’ve:
Created a new game engine.
Worked on a new way to make car models.
Improved the lighting and shadows (from what I could see on the demo footage).
Improved the course creator.
If they have the manpower, they could make many changes. It’s even possible that they’ve found or will find a method to model standard cars closer to premium, including cockpits, in time for launch. Of course, it’s always possible that it’s going to be released half broken or late, but all parties involved in development and release would need a special level of stupidity to allow that to happen again, as it would likely kill any credibility left in the franchise.
I’m super excited for GT6 and will preorder it as soon as it’s available. I do wish, however, that different styles of replay would come back to Gran Turismo. While the replays are okay in GT5, they are nowhere near as exciting as the ones (with fast effects, etc) on prior games. Also, I wish and pray that all cars are premium now.
Everyone remembers how much better GT5 was over the GT5 Prologue right? (I’m sure some will still find a way to argue it wasn’t) but just imagine this, like that. The finished product will be better, I’m sure.
I’m also sure the finished product will be better. This demo won’t be able to compare once its released I bet. :)
You do a lot of betting Toko. Just like you bet GT5 DLC was gonna be great after the 1st DLC, and then after the 2nd DLC, and then the next DLC. And you lost.
^ What the? When and where did I bet on that? (Like you’ll search for it, impossible). *Chuckles*
It’s still a demo…. c’mon guys get over it… just let PD focusing on perfecting the final product
+1
speaking of which, what’s that “driving physics” in the set menu options for?
My god, DAT suspension movement is amazing… I like that!!, finally GT’s car got a natural bodyroll =D
Driving physics option? I didn’t see that, I’ll may check. :)
And I agree. That suspension is working so good, I can watch it all day. XD
I mean in the driving options menu after the SRF box… might wanna check it out =D
Oh okay I saw it now. :D
Im sorry but I sooo wanna drift this car.
I feel exactly the same as I’ve felt the last years. Promises of what GT will really be once it is fully finished-released-patched-tweaked. Same thing is happening with GT6. Hope they at least fix the “just barely touch the brakes and lock them up” with ABS off. Everything else could probably be ignored if you look at it as a driving/racing experience on a console.
Theres actually a way around the ABS off Brake lock-up issue. Refer to the tuning forum. Plenty of good tunes there. Adrenaline, Praiano Watering Hole, etc. Just gotta look for it, and follow the guide.
Yes I know there’s a work around. But in my opinion that issue should be solved by correct simulation by the product itself out of the box. it is a very basic behavior that any mild sim should offer off the bat.
^ Sure whatever you say…
You have to switch off the brake balancer too.
If you look hard enough you can see the Tire tread pattern. Nice LOD there, and the working suspension, works. Im not a hater so I know Ill be happy. The Naysayers should just find a hole and jump in.
I know right?
Ugh the whining is bacl. -_-
Sad…
I don’t think the sound from what I hear is that bad, it certainly sounds more gruntier but I would love to hear another vehicle considering this vehicle is open top and there’s a lot of wind.
Wow This GT5 DLC sure does look nice… -_- zzzz
GT5 DLC, where you see that? All I see is an awesome gameplay of GT6. Get your eyes checked…
You should change your Profile name to Gran_Hater
I’m only hating because I had higher hopes.
Than you shouldn’t have had your hopes up. This time with E3, don’t have your hopes to high, alright? :) You can get surprised at what Kaz will bring there.
Just give it a chance bro. Im sure it will grow on you. :)
Does anyone know if GT6 will support a wider range of steering wheels? By support I mean – fine tuning of settings for Fanatec CSR. Or will the support be generic?
Can’t wait to try GT6 out.
Cheers
I just hope they can atleast put on board spectate for online. Most camera angles are garbage on GT5 (fuji)
You can see the new suspension model at work. You can see the shocks moving on the car.
I think I know why the engine sounds are high-pitched in Gran Turismo.
In fact, I think Kazunori is right into saying the sound is too accurate.
Because of the sophisticated recording instruments they used to capture almost lossless sound, and the fact that the vehicle is stationary.
A moving car sounds different from a stationary car.
Since a car is moving, sound waves stretch through the air and they don’t overlap because sound waves are travelling on a distance thereby the waves are distributed on varying spaces (whether you go slow or fast). It is called the Doppler effect.
Now if an object is stationary, that means the sound waves get compressed easily and thus would produce a higher-frequency sound than if it were moving.
Now, cars in Gran Turismo move, but the sound source of them didn’t. Will we get dynamic sound effects in video games someday where a stationary vehicle would sound different from a moving vehicle given other factors? Obviously an engine running in lower gear sounds different from an engine which is accelerating on a higher gear in a fundamental way, but a car running at 250km/h on a treadmill will sound different from a car running at 250km/h on a road (to us). Maybe we’ll get something similar someday, where the sound waves are dynamic relative to our position and how the sound source moves.
Now on replays (the cinematic camera) we hear the faint-direct-faint effect like we would from a passing vehicle or from the siren of a passing ambulance. Sadly, I believe it isn’t really the doppler effect as the frequency is constant all throughout and so we could only hear volume and decibel changes, but not exactly the compression of sound waves as they come closer and stretch as they go farther. It’s just that the sounds get louder and fainter. Now why is that? Again, no doppler effect programmed. It’s just recorded sound playing, so not really a natural sound source that would bend and flatten as it goes through space but a constant sound that’s just moving through an artificial level.
Orrrr….someone can correct me on this.
As a driver, you’re travelling with the car so you don’t notice the doppler effect. Doppler effect is only there is you’re travelling at a different speed than the source of the sound.
The doppler effect is in the game, as well as in GT5. You hear it on replays when the car is passing, when it approaches the sound is high pitched and when it has passed the pitch drops. That’s the doppler effect.
The cars could sound like cats fighting for all I care – I mostly play with no sound on account of playing at night while my wife is trying to sleep lol. If the physics have improved by as much as the GT4 to GT5 jump it’ll be amazing – I can hardly believe I used to be able to drive at all in GT4 when I go back there now!
Man, why not use a set of wired headphones with the ps3. If your not sure how just google it. It’s easy and the needed cables are cheap.
Yeah, I do night shift so play on a few of my days off at night too – headphones are a definite must. Quite a few models with microphones out there too for a good price.
PD, if you read these comments. Ignore my first comment about the car’s sound! I didn’t know the engine specs of the KTM and assumed it had a high rev bike engine! You did a great job selecting the sound for this car. You don’t need to record new sounds if it isn’t necessary. Just match the sample with the car’s engine configuration like you did here. This is the Scirocco’s sample and it goes great with this car!
I love you PD!!
You can’t be serious…
I agree!!
I am serious. I never felt crazy for these type of cars so I don’t know much about them. I just assumed that since it was a KTM it had a bike engine.
PD is amazing and this game will be a monster. I feel sorry for all the people who just complain and whine… I bet they are the first in line to buy the game on release date.
Looks great and can’t wait it’s going to be awesome! Gt6 baby!
Relax everyone. This is only a demo of GT6 (such as a pre alpha-build). The real thing will soon come to be in the holiday season of 2013 when the game is finished and released.
I hope they will improve from these tire sounds too.
In real life tire sounds vary depending which action is being taken. Braking, Turning, Hard braking, Drifting, etc…
Not the same sound over and over again.
Should’ve crashed the cars into one of the walls to see how damage is in GT6, however, I’m not sure if visual damage would be present on a GT6 demo.
Hey Jordan, there’s a new special event time trail celebrating the gt6 announcement!
Finally someone mentions it.. I should’ve said it :/ lol
I hoped for this. Good looking out PD.
Oh crap…Why do you do this Kaz? Sure, lots of content but the core gameplay is still broken, the sounds…the views…can’t even make a real hood cam and the 3rd person view is as boring and stale as it gets, jesus christ! What’s the problem Kaz? Is it really that hard? 15 years and 3 generations and you still can’t let it go…Evolve god damnit!
Please look up broken – those things you mention function and do not stop you playing the game, ergo: not broken. They may not be to your taste, but the only thing that’s broken here is the record…
Forget him MeanElf. Its not worth your time. People like him look for and create issues of negatively where there really is none.
Good point Pit Crew – I really should stay away from all of this.
*Deep breath*
Thanks once again Jordan. Nice work.
Oh no not BWX. D:
SRF is coming back :( That is the worst news I could possibly hear. Again, they are trying to make the game fit a broader audience by making the cars easier to control. I hope that this time they at least tell us in every replay if SRF was on, along with any other assists, hp and weight. If not shown on screen, visible in the replay file itself and/or in the data analyzer.
Oh and it would be nice to slow a replay down again like in GT3.
Jerome
In GT5 there is a way to see what assist your online opponent is running while watching replays
That’s a good point Jerome, but it could be worse. They could leave SRF on with no option to turn it off.
Or worse still, not make the game at all. I’m sure there will be the option to turn it off, just like in GT5.
Awesome
they need to adjust the tire squeel sound. it was reminding me of the old GT games. Would be nice to have different sounds for different tire grades, and different types of tire sound effect, rather than just more slip=louder squeel.
Listen to the KTM X-Bow vid on the GT6 coming to PS3 thread – plenty of tyre squeal on that.
I want to see the Dino on Comfort Mediums next time.
+1
Yesss :tup:
+1 And no assist – that means no ABS too :D
Wow, I didn’t know a Hoover could get around Silverstone that quick!
But all jokes aside, that looked pretty good, except for the sound quality. But I bet you had to be there to here it’s true sound.
The NEW ERA of Complain and Whining begins… LOL :p
*i’m already happy, i cannot complain… i hope the GT6 Prologue release soon :p
I think it’ll be the full GT6 this Holiday season. :)
LOL. But in all seriousness I doubt there will be a Prologue version.
^What he said, No Prologue. Its not necessary.
Heheh… well straight to full version is fine… but i hope there’s demo we can play soon, maybe for GT Academy 2013? i wanna feel the new physics!!
Thanks for the video. Can’t wait for GT6!
Way to show it off when we cant see it… XD third person any one?
Dont defend the sound, its rubbish.
ZIP IT! Are you the one playing it, no? Okay than ZIP IT!!!
I don’t believe you are either. Go find a khazi and change your pad will ya..
Haha. PD could zip it and get their act together with their “too realistic” sounds. :)
@Swagger897 Did I say I was? No? I thought so.
@JvM Okay that’s it, get over here you.
I am terribly scared of what a kid for all I know, defending a game with 26 letters, and about 29 other keys on his keyboard could do to me…
The way you implied it, seems that you are hiding copyrighted information, which could be used sway public opinion by false advertisement.
Where I’m from, you are guilty until proven innocent… Who’s the “smart” one now?
And the last i knew, for all apparent “simulators” who have been acknowledge by major companies as certified… (Msfs, where Boeing certifies products that are close enough to be used in training for actual flight planning and knowledge)
… have been able to create freeware that could be downloaded to enhance the quality of the “simulator experience”
They should include a sound manager where the environment, engine noise, cockpit noise, tyre squeal, exhaust note, and miscellaneous sound can be tuned
Real driving sim… Not on a console.. That’s a setup for failure..
A snob now? Cute. If you’re going to make a big deal over “DEMO SOUNDS”, than by all means go right ahead. I ain’t no whiner…
They are gonna do it again I will bet any thing from seeing that replay it will just what I hoped it wasn’t going to be just another version of the same game layed out diffrently they can do the same thing with DLC. Just do that PD make GT6 a DLC pack too add on to GT5, so far I’m not impressed!!
mmmmm whats the difference between GT5? of course trakc/cars) but I mean graphics looks exaclty the same as GT5, even the grass still looking too unreal, like an arcade game, come on, where is the dirt? in real life the grass is not Green in all the places, the only difference between GT5 is the menu, they should better added these new things as DLC and make GT6 better, wont be happy to see it by myself in November, 1200 cars, but . . . . . 800 standard, 70% japanese and old, just 15% are good/new cars, the rest of old GTs not even Premium, same with the tracks, route 5 and cape ring looks exactly the same, between GT4 & GT5 they have real difference but between GT5 & GT6 they dont
Alright lets get something straight here. PD actually HAS the sound we all want, even in GT5! – they just mix in the microphone recording from the front of the car (with the intake sucking like a vacuum, belts whirring, valves clicking away, fans blowing) to a ridiculous degree.
Watch a replay or do a B-spec race at Suzuka East (maybe in the beginner section/japanese classics race if you want). There will be several good sequences where our camera/point-of-view will slowly and methodically go from being in front of the car to behind it. The difference is astounding. As soon as our pov passes the back edge of the car, it’s almost ALL exhaust note, and it is beautiful. Even on my crappy TV speakers.
It’s the mixing job that is getting us all messed up. Somebody please get inside Kaz’s head about this. We want the exhaust note to be dominant from all angles, including the cockpit. It is definitely a bit sad that after YEARS of loud protest, that whoever is greenlighting the incorrect mixing of car sounds is repeating this same old mistake.
Sounds aren’t even at the top of my list, but to hear the sim-racing, casual gaming, and motorsport communities constantly gripe about this issue is downright painful to me- especially considering they’re mostly right! I am very excited for GT6. When Kaz mentions the Loyal fanbase, I am certainly within that maligned group. I may be in too deep.
It looks like a TON of things are being improved for the upcoming title, but once again- simple decisions are being botched on the regular. This is easily fixable stuff. The people do not want “sexy” sounds. They want MEAN and NASTY sounds. Arrrr!
: )
:tup: :tup: :tup: :t–
You have one problem, Kaz just does not care about GT anymore, so he doesn’t fix stupid crap like that. He just lets it be messed up for eternity. I don’t think he has ever played through GT5 one time.
A-Spec – it is tiny, has way too few races and way too few championships.. and what is there is not thought out at all, it’s a grind session if it has any length at all. Not to mention the horrible “chase the rabbit” ai that causes ALL starts to be rolling starts in GT5. The sound that has dyno whine as the dominant feature.. it can sound ok with a huge home theater adjusted just right, but still..
Kaz is the problem, Kaz is not the solution.
GRRR BWX if Kaz didn’t care about GT anymore, than why does he still make it? What’s your problem!?
Time to wait for someone to upload a video of the Alfa, GT-86 cockpit view this time!
Lest Be Honest, that could be just another GT5 DLC.
A whole new physics engine, completely new UI, modes, and course editor, and adaptive tessellation could be DLC for GT5? Yeah sure, plus all of the stuff we don’t know about the game yet…
^ Excatly. :tup:
well, about how it looks and sound. DLC all the way!!!
I love the race loading screen, so fast and perfect looking with the flag pasting by. :D
Yeah the presentation is much better in this game!
Agreed. :)
Indeed, I’m loving it. :D
Hopefully we’ll get podium ‘celebrations’ this time around.
And please bring back the qualifyings and the licenses requirements for the events!
Here is what I personally think should be in GT6.
$: Would really like to see
$ Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
$ Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport
$ Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport Vitesse
$ Bugatti Veyron Sang Noir
$ Bugatti Veyron Sang Bleu
$ Bugatti Veyron Blanc Noir
$ Bugatti 16C Galibier
$ Bugatti Super Veyron (?)
Hummer H1
$ Hummer H2
Hummer H3
Hummer HX Concept
$ Lamborghini Reventòn & Reventòn Roadster
$ Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
$ Lamborghini Estoque
$ Lamborghini Gallardo Concept S
$ Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera
$ Lamborghini Gallardo LP 550-2 Valentino Balboni
$ Lamborghini Diablo SV
$ Pagani Zonda F
$ Pagani Zonda Cinque & Cinque Roadster
$ Pagani Huayra
Caterham Superlight RS500
$ Audi R8 GT (’12)
$ Audi e-tron Concept
$ Audi Q5
$ Audi Q7
$ Audi A Series
$ Audi S Series
Toyota Prius V
Toyota Prius C
$ Spyker C8 Zagato
Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 (’11)
$ Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 Concept
$ Chevrolet Corvette Stingray (C7)
$ Chrysler Firepower Concept
Scion xB
Scion xD
Scion tC
Scion iQ
$ Dodge Viper SRT, GTS & TA
Mitsubishi RVR
Jeep Commander
Jeep Compass
Jeep Wrangler (2012)
Jeep Grand Cherokee
Jeep Patriot
$ Jaguar F-Type (’12)
$ Jaguar XK (’12)
$ Jaguar XF (’12)
$ Jaguar XJ (’12)
$ Koenigsegg Agera
$ Koenigsegg Agera R
$ Koenigsegg CCX
$ Koenigsegg CCXR Edition
$ Koenigsegg CCGT
$ Koenigsegg CC8S
$ Koenigsegg Trevita
$ Ford Model T
$ Dodge Duster
Chevrolet Sonic
$ Ford Fusion (’13)
$ BMW i8
$ BMW i3
$ Rolls Royce Phantom
$ Rolls Royce Ghost
$ Audi R8 (’15)
$ Audi R8 e-tron Prototype
$ Aston Martin Vanquish (’14)
$ Aston Martin DB5
$ Aston Martin One-77
$ Buick Verano
Buick Regal
Geo Metro
$ Infiniti JX
Mazda 2
Mazda 3
Mazda 5
Mazda 6
Maserati Quattroporte GTS
$ Maserati MC12
$ Maserati Birdcage 75 Concept
$ Brabham BT46B
$ Marussia B1 & B2
$ McLaren P1
$ McLaren F1 LM
$ Porsche 911 Carrera S
$ Porsche Carrera GT
$ Porsche 911 GT3 RS
$ Porsche 911 GT2 RS
$ Porsche 959
Nissan Juke Nismo
More NASCARs
More Formula 1 cars
$ Audi R18 (LMP) ’12
More trucks (Silverado, Sierra, Ram, etc…)
Unusual vehicles (dump trucks, ice cream vans, etc…?)
Cadillac CTS-V
Cadillac ATS
ETC……………………………
No Bentley Continental GT3?
No Bugatti Type 37A?
No Lamborghini Aventador J? Lamborghini Veneno? Or the new concept they just made, Lamborghini Egoista (not for everyone.)
No Ferrari LaFerrari? Ferrari F12 Berlinetta? Ferrari FF? Ferrari 250 GTO? Ferrari Testarossa? Etc etc etc
No Porsche 918? No Porsche 356? No Porsche 961? No Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7 RS???!!! No Porsche 917???!!!
:(
When I see bathurst my attention will be regained….meh
a Somewhat Jaded GT lover….
That suspension is one of the best that I´ve ever seen. I play a lot rFactor 2 and I think with iRacing are the bests simulators in the market but GT6 is getting closer and closer to the bests P simulators.
Let´s see it when I have this in my hands on July.
Agreed Foxiol. :)
Can’t wait for the demo this summer. **Cough cough** i’ll be sick for 2 weeks
It looks…It looks…THE SAME!!
Which means it still looks like the best racing game out there. But more importantly, it seems like it feels like a whole different thing. Fantastic, I must say.
The sounds (not the volume or effects but the sample) still need some rethinking. However this is far from being the final version.
Some rethinking? Name which Nissan you think this car sounds like…many.. Pick your flavor..
I would have rather picked a distinct car tune, (Audi S1) something that has never been in the game (Audi S1 [not saying the KTM has]) but something that will give clear and distinct noise, vs a car that uses other companies engines…
But we will all wait and see if it was just that…
Yes yes it does… GT needs to catch up with the real world….
seriously if Kaz and Dave Kraemer joined forces Simracers the world arounds heads would ‘spolde from the possibilities…
No it doesn’t. Look at the previous news post.
Some rethinking? Name which Nissan you think this car sounds like…many.. Pick your flavor..
I would have rather picked a distinct car tune, (Audi S1) something that has never been in the game (Audi S1 [not saying the KTM has]) but something that will give clear and distinct noise, vs a car that uses other companies engines…
But we will all wait and see if it was just that
Sorry Swagger, I think you need your ears attending to if that sounds like a Nissan to you…a distinct difference is what I heard and even through a less than ideal sound pick up too. It sounded like a big touring motorbike.
C’mon, I get that some of you would like the sounds as true as possible, but I’m now wondering if it’s your hearing that’s at fault.
I never heard anything but tyre squeal
I actually downloaded the file on audacity and compared the two… This to a stock 350zed, and there was not much of a difference between the overflowing air, and the the drummeling of the engine into irrecognizable miscellaneous sounds…
Sorry, dine me research and work all ready..
Nuff said
I actually made a mistake. I blame my lack of knowledge on this car since I thought it had a bike engine. It actually has a very simple 4 cylinder. The sample, even though it’s the one used in the VW Scirocco (which is very accurate from its real life counterpart) was a great choice from PD.
I don’t mind if they use the same sample in various cars as long as it matches its engine configuration. Except for very characteristic cars like the LFA, Aventador, Viper and such which HAVE to be as close as their real counterparts.
Done your research eh? As Husky says, listen to the real thing – there’s a vid on the GT6 on the PS3 thread. Then wait until you get to hear the GT6 version on a comparable recording.
Nissan my ass…
I hope we see some gameplay of that Audi soon! That’s the car I want to see!
Same here, and for that i pray to God that the sound is the closest we can get to the real thing.
That sound..
~~d@,@b~~
As long as it sounds like a 5 cylinder, I’m okay. Heck, they can even put the R8 LM’s sample and I would be happy since it sounds very similar.
But make it sound like 4 cylinder or a 6 cylinder and let me tell you… after 6 games and 15 years, I will be very disappointed.
I don’t see why they won’t ask for help (ehmm… EA did pretty good on some of their exotics)
EA does a great job when picking the sound samples. Unfortunately the sound effects in-game are painfully distorted and horribly artificial. There are only like two NFS games that sound half decent, like Undercover and Underground 2. The rest, especially Shift, are simply a torture to play because of the sound.
Would you say the graphics looked noticeably better, and if so, in what way?
Were the textures more high-res looking?
Did they fix some of the graphics artifacts like the lines/grid when you have alpha-blending?
Were the cockpit views better?
I’m really eager to get my three copies now.
This confirms it, vacuum cleaner sounds are back, this car’s engine/exhaust note is barely even audible over the tire screeching and road noise, i’ll take a pass.
Read the description -,-
The audio which you hear in the video was recorded via the television’s line-out headphone jack. It’s mono (single channel) sound, and doesn’t quite represent the sound that I could hear through the TV’s speakers. Although it’s not a radical change, I did notice a rougher, more visceral texture in the engine note that was more satisfying than what’s provided in GT5.
Furthermore it’s Youtube…. They compress the audio even in 1080p mode, ain’t no one got time for that!
@Ferrari Alonso and @Unknown? +1
@SlowInFastOut -100, Now SHUT IT!
@Unknown?
I see what you did there!
But I ain’t got time for this lol
@TokoTurismo
Lol!
It doesn’t take a genius to watch three youtube videos… This one, another game with the KTM, and the real thing, to figure out the game will be just a big unreleased DLC… Something we all complained about that we are now getting on a disk…
When will people understand. It’s not the loudness or the roughness of the sound. The sound is perfect since GT5. The problem is the freaking sound samples! It doesn’t matter how much you crank up the volume, how expensive your home theatre is.
Can we start compiling a list of new cars? I assume all the cars previewed but not in the game will be in it, like the new Acura NSX? And please, leave out the 99 new GT-R variants. :)
Scaff is gonna loves this. :)
Wow, I know I’ve been very positive all day, but I noticed PD is back at it again…
That’s the sound sample from the VW Scirocco or the Golf R, and it’s the same blow off valve sounds that we’ve had for years…
Still too soon though. I remember the first videos of the Gallardo in GT5 it had the Cizeta V16’s sample. They fixed it later. As long as cars sound as the engine they have(L4 like L4, V6 like V6, V8 like V8) I’m okay with it.
Other thn that, I can only say WOW!!!! Look like an entirely new game! No more “floating” cars, if you know what I mean. They now look as if they have weight into them and no longer have that feel as if they were gliding in air.
Don’t forget, that sound can be a placeholder. It is a demo after all. ;)
I guess I was being to rash on PD. Afterall, the car does have the same type of 4 cylinder engine than a Scirocco and many sport compact cars.
I’m just praying to the gods that they choose the correct samples for cars this time…
^ I agree.
Wow the presentation is top notch, much better than GT5’s presentation. Just by the menus and the way it shows what kind of race/track you are on while loading.
Hmmmm, that place looks familiar.
The suspension model is so perfect. 0_0
I know right!, looks spectacular.
Agreed. :tup: Scaff is gonna love it and the tire model as well. :)
Speaking of tyre model, look on the concept trailer. The part where the Quattro is doing a burnout, I’m sure I see the tyre flex. Not sure if thats in GT5 already so correct me if I’m wrong but I love GT6 so far!
We need that trailer in slow mo, pronto!
Ill have to upload one tomorrow. Going to bed now, it’s late. :)
Great job on the footage! I’m craving this game now, bar the sounds… :/
Interesting. Appreciated as usua,l Jordan.
usual,*
Anybody else here curious what that track and car list consists of?
Who isn’t? ;)
question can you now spin the camera around the car in third person view??? or is that a no still for gt6
can someone with the demo try this please
I hope the physics improve more than what we’ve seen here. Looks quite the same to GT5, in my opinion.
You can’t really say that just by looking at this one video. Furthermore the SRF was on.
I suppose so, but if someone showed me this clip and told me it was GT5 DLC, I would have believed them. It’s still got until the end of the year but this currently looks VERY similar.
True. But there’s not much they can do in the graphics department. They seem to have gotten rid of those jaggy shadows which is a big plus, the suspension looks top notch if you ask me, and the sound… well Jordan said it was recorded out of the televison line’s headphone and that overall he noticed a ” rougher, more visceral texture in the engine note that was more satisfying than what’s provided in GT5″ so there is still hope for that.
looks fantastic
Gran Turismo 4 part 3.
Thank you Jordan! You all Saw it First here on GTPlanet!!! :)
The new era begins.