GT5 U.S. Sales Update: 560,500 Copies in December

GT5 was off to a great start last month, selling over 5.5 million copies worldwide in just two weeks. Now, we’re able to catch a glimpse of the game’s performance in the United States thanks to fresh numbers from the NPD Group: 560,500 copies were sold in the U.S. throughout December.

It’s difficult to say if that’s particularly good or bad, though it clearly wasn’t enough to get GT5 into NPD’s “Top 10” best selling U.S. games for the important holiday month. U.S. sales for the series have lagged significantly since the launch of GT4, which saw more than twice as many copies sold in Europe than North America. Though it’s still too early to call, it appears GT5 may still be unable to reverse that trend. At least we finally have GT Academy, though!

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Comments (102)

  1. Devedander

    I think the overlooked issue is that the initial 5 mill in sales stemmed for years of preorder interest…. so to say it sold 5.5 mill in the first few weeks is a bit misleading when it relaly sold 5.5 mill in the first year (or however long it’s been availalbe for presale)

  2. Robert

    You guys have to realize GT5 is as close to real as you can get with a $50 game. A lot of people don’t like it because it’s not a kid’s game. You have to have some driving skill and patience and like to be challenged to be able to enjoythis game. That’s why it has not sold as well as those other games

    1. mark

      That would make sense if it were not for a few flaws:
      1. Simply using a powerful car makes most races easily won without skill.
      2. If powerfull car method causes guilt, soft racing tires seriously reduce the skill required for most races.
      3. And if you want one of the easiest racing experiences ever in the GT series, use skid recovery, and other driving aids, for that total arcade experience….

      So no, skill and patience are not required, and plenty of kids can play it with no trouble. The problem is that after all the hype, it simply hasn’t met expectations, even if it is still a great game. On top of that, other games have gone past GT in a number of areas.
      For example, while I personally find GT’s physics to be the best, I much prefer the mechanical tuning concept found in FM3. Still just having engine tune levels 1 through 3 just doesn’t compare to being able to mix and match individual components in FM3. I find it disapointing that PD has simplified tunning rather than expanding like other games. PD needed to advance the concept and surpass other games, and they missed the chance. Given that, having been a fan of GT since GT1, I bought it anyway, but if I was new to the genre i’d probably just have stayed with FM3 and waited for cheap used copies of GT to show up.
      I suspect variations of this example have effected the sales negatively, though there are likely other factors has well, but who knows, after some patching, the sales might spike a few more times yet.

  3. Alvin23a

    The money xbox uses on ads Sony uses on making the game. Forza could be a whole lot better if they didn’t spent all there money on ads.

  4. LeftyWright69

    Man I sure would like to know how many competitors are playing or were registerd to play in the Academy Qualifier given the amount of units sold. If it was just 10% of the total sales that would be more then I was estimating.

  5. Deathsarthe

    The game does just enough to satisfy what fans of the series are left after the half decade wait, but not enough to gain anymore success than that.

    It is unfinished and so far offers nothing exciting that other titles haven’t already explored.

  6. Stu

    The US is dominated by the 360 and generic FPS shooters. The rest of the world has more diverse tastes, hence GT5 selling 6m copies, not poor, not niche, in fact huge and far bigger than any other driving game.

    1. AGTFan

      True, GT5 sold significatly more than Forza3 in a shorter space of time (Forza is at ~2.2 million).

      However, sales might have been even higher if GT5 didn’t get so many mixed reviews from both GT oldtimers and people new to the game. GT5 has a metacritic score of 84, which is lower than Forza3’s 92.

      This means by large GT5 came short of people’s (or reviewers) expectations and it stands to reason the game lost sales as a result.

  7. brainfade

    GT/PD and Sony shouldn’t worry too much about the US market, they’re blind to anything that isn’t an FPS or conventional licensed bullfraf game.

  8. Praggia

    Ok why are sales figures even newsworthy? It doesnt make a difference to anyone except PD and Sony. Pd is obviously aware of what the sales figures are and I would think they are not very impressed. People are making more informed choices these days, doing some research before making a purchase. So the Flak that GT has been getting since its release has definitely affected sales. If you wanna know how i can say that? Go back and research the sales data for GT4 when it was released…..
    And lets face it……GT5 even though i own a copy, isnt PD’s best work sad to say. This was supposed to show the PS3 really flex its muscles but sadly its been a big let down. The Physics engine is awesome but there are too many other issues to overlook.

  9. jasr73

    Haven’t seen the numbers in Aust. yet but obviously they’re a fraction of the US numbers. I do think the PR was a little under done here tho. Sure there where some limited TV slots on the FTA channels, a few write ups in the main stream press and some limited presence on the side of buses and in the train stations. Oh and they had that thing at the Sydney Motor Show which virtually no one knew about; but by and large the PR was underdone for such an important title.

    What’s more surprising is there’s been no second wave of PR that’s hit the mainstream here at all. I work in this space and budget permitting, normally you’d have the build up hype campaign and the launch program, and then you’d go again with another wave of above the line marketing to keep the sales momentum in top gear. Perhaps Sony felt it wasn’t required.

    At the end of the day, it’s not like any of this really matters at all. Like speedthrill said; if you’ve got a heap of mates to play with on line and you’re having a good time, who really cares about overall numbers.

    Provided PD’s made Sony some profit, they’ve got enough cash in the bank for ongoing Dev, can support the server network and keep the lights on, it’s a win.

  10. ucwepn

    Gamers torrent most of the shows they watch :p

    Xbox is not a better console than the ps3 its just that they market it very heavily in every type of media also they engage in dirty anti ps3 “troll” marketing and bribery of news sites and reviewers and also the american market who are fiercly patriotic see it as “The american console” and if you buy anything else you are unamerican lol. Worldwide sales are more relivant in getting a picture on sony’s actual sales performance.

    1. speedthrill

      Yep, for once, i find the truth on this news part of the board…

      XBOX is the only one with dirty market strategys…
      Really dirty.. You should try to find the movies where t10 dude tries to sell FM3 before anybody saw it..
      Was literally pointing fingers to a dude who is now part of history in the gameworld…

      He probably still facepalms himself about those early mistakes… :p

    2. BWX

      “the american market who are fiercly patriotic see it as “The american console” and if you buy anything else you are unamerican lol.” <— That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. There's no evidence this ridiculous statement is even remotely true. That's just some made-up B.S.

    3. An American

      Hmmm, I bought my ps3 almost a year before my Xbox.
      I bought the Xbox because Sony wasn’t really putting out many games that interested me, but M$ was. I could care less about what country the companies are based in, or where the console is made.
      I guess that means i’m about to be raided by the A.B.P.C.E. (American Bureau of Patriotic Console Enforcement), arrested for treason, and be sent to gamer prison forever…….lol

  11. Lawndart

    Least we forget, the PS3 and Xbox are sharing a large part of the space that Sony pretty much owned in the PS1 and PS2 days… That means Sony got nearly all of the auto enthusiasts and really didn’t have much competition…

    I know NFS used to enjoy HUGE numbers, 5-7 million in sales each version but when Underground came out it only made around 500 million in sales and even though that is HUGE numbers it was far below target and EA shut down their Blackbox studio…

    1. speedthrill

      Lo what, underground made them high again…
      Without that, they couldn’t be where they are now….

      You do know about NFS Shift, wright?

  12. BubbleBelly542

    Racing is not a top genre and it’s a ps3 exclusive so I’d called that pretty good. I wonder if that covers costs for development and advertising? I’m sure Sony helped with that.

    What I am about to say is in no way Jordans fault: I wish something interesting would get posted about gt5. But thats up to PD not GTPlanet

  13. Waltermydoinhere

    So they’ve earned about $360 million and the product is still incompmlete?

    =FAIL replay engine
    =FAIL online penatly options (Auto-kick backwards drivers etc)
    =FAIL full setup options. (Individual gear ratios?)
    =FAIL Tire wear and ability to turn it off
    =FAIL for not having a mirror on “bonnet” or “hood” view

    I didn’t spend anytime thinking about this post or there’d be a LOT more issues listed.

    I do enjoy the game, but it seems it’s falling just short in so many areas. What it “Could” be is what keeps me coming back.

    1. Magic Ayrton

      You forgot =FAIL Engine sounds NUMBER ONE PRIORITY!!
      =FAIL No split screen replays or online replays
      =FAIL headlighs USELESS ON MAIN BEAM

      Kaz please look at a real car and actually replicate it properly.. stop trying to save stuff for your next title, because people aren’t stupid and will stop buying this re hashed rubbish.

    2. BWX

      @Magic Ayrton —“=FAIL No split screen replays or online replays” <—You fail. There is online replays, you can save them. "=FAIL Engine sounds NUMBER ONE PRIORITY!!" <—You fail for having a failure of an audio system as I pointed out in response to your other post above.

  14. Gulf_Porsche

    Perhaps the low number is the result of wise(r) consumers actually reading the reviews before investing in GT5, as opposed to other, more popular games. This game has major problems and I’m disappointed in the fanboys who just don’t want to admit them.

    As for the comments about strong “staying power”, that’s whistling past the graveyard. I am about ready to toss it and sell my collector’s edition: I am sick of grinding away race after race after race because I can’t win or buy the cars I need for various race series. A minor fraction of the game’s cars are available at the dealers’, and way too much of the — obviously — limited modelling time went to umpteen NASCAR sedans instead of other race cars . . . or even the multitude of missing tracks, for that matter.

    Forget the “staying power”. Sales of GT5 are going to remain low until GT6 if released — and then after weeks of reading — hopefully positive — reviews. As Prelude was really GT5 Lite, GT5 is really the beta version of GT6, and we’ve paid to be the guinea pigs to watch as Kaz & crew work their away around the multitude of problems.

    After +5 years, you would think that at least the single-player driving module of “the worlds greatest driving simulator” would be settled. Not so, and sales are just reflecting the mixed reactions — and massive frustration — that players are experiencing. It looks nice, sometimes, but it plays like a half-baked version of GT4, and I have better things to do with my time.

  15. LoneWanderer

    The reason GT5 didn’t sell well is because the little kids Sony tried to attract to the game instead went to buy Call of Duty: Black Ops.

    The thing is that Black Ops is garbage, if anyone here has played it. It’s just the same game rehashed every year and is somehow building in hype.

    1. speedthrill

      2 days, six races further, level 25 to 27, in total just an hour work…

      Earned: 6.7 million….

      AN HOUR WORK….

    1. speedthrill

      …. Selfish thinker….
      Why oh why would that happen???

      Maybe if you guys started a war against azia, then i would start to think…
      But you guys do realise you’re the only ones sounding like spoiled bastards about this game, while in the end you would go for Xbox, just to get the dollar up..

  16. Magic Ayrton

    Yeah and Just think how many more copies they would have sold if they scrapped their poor digitised sound system for one like Forza 2.. I mean even GT2 had better sounds on most cars pffffffffft.

    I’m angry because the sound is just lame in some cases and I love this game.. I really hope they sort it out soon.

    1. speedthrill

      Lol, 5.1 dd?
      Or maybe stereo surround set?
      No not even that?

      If you do, you’re full of “blieeeeeeeeeeep”…

    2. BWX

      @Magic Ayrton — Dude you have a crappy audio system if you think the sound sucks. I put it on “Large theater” in the setting and run it via HDMI to a Yamaha 900 watt 7.1 system with a 260 watt 10″ sub. Some cars don’t sound as good as others, but mostly GT5 sounds awesome. I miss the wind noise that was in GT5p, but everything else is 5 times better. I did the Loeb challenge the other day with the sound cranked.. I could feel the exhaust popping and spitting though the subwoofer, even when sitting idling.. It had that uneven idle that rally cars have and it was coming through the subwoofer (that’s crossed over a 60hz) just great. I could hear individual tires breaking traction, gravel kicking up, gear whine, etc.. It was like being in a rally car. Get a better home theater setup and then talk about the sound.

  17. Madman Apex

    i bet the music and movie industries would LOVE to have sales like that. i havent bought a CD since December 1999, Redman’s “Doc’s Da Name”; and only the two Hulk DVDs. i own three copies of GT3, GT4, and two of GT5.

    1. BWX

      “the majority of the game that isn’t the driving physics suck” You make absolutely no sense. Go try to learn how to form a complete sentence. The driving physics is the best part of GT5. A-spec is way too short.

    2. brainfade

      ok turd brain. any part of the game that ISNT the physics sucks. I.e. = the physics are the only good part of the game sh*tface.

  18. Drogahnus

    Numbers don’t seem too bad. However, I think the reason for lower sales in the US is a result of lack of customization (i.e., Forza style). Now, before raging fanboys start assuming I’m bashing GT5, you should know that I’m now. The vast majority of gamers in the states purchase racings games on consoles based on how in-depth customization levels are, visually rather than performance-wise. Considering GT lacks livery editors, decals, etc, I think that may be the reason for lower sales.

    Just my .02.

  19. Simon

    Face it people. PlayStation is just more dominant in Europa and Asia. Xbox is more dominant in America.

    I live in the Netherlands (Western-Europe) and yes, sometimes I see commercials for multiplatform games which ends with the xbox logo but Sony also does the same over here.

    In October, November and December Sony advertised more than ever. PS Move was heavily promoted during this period, especially on channels like Comedy Central but also on normal channels. Besides that there also were a lot of commercials for (multiplatform) games which only showed a PS3 version also GT5 was promoted well since both retailers and sony advertised for it.

    I just don’t see Sony advertise like this in the US because the US is a lost cause because most people have a xbox. This ain’t the case in Europe.

  20. Skiddy

    I don’t think these numbers are good or bad. They are just numbers that don’t matter to me in any way. I know what I bought and I’m enjoying the game. If some guys decided not to buy because of the jaggies or what ever, their mistake..

    1. speedthrill

      They’re good, considering this is just a game of 2 months old, fact, nomather how hard you try to turn it…

  21. GT5 is the best game ever

    Lets round it to 6.000.000 copies sold
    6.000.000 x 70$ a game=420.000.000$
    I wish I was Kaz :P

    1. Robb

      It seems gamers are the only one’s who’d deem selling six million copies inside of two months a “failure”. What does that say about them?

    2. LoneWanderer

      @Robb

      The “gamers” who think Call of Duty is great because it sold more copies than GT5, even though they don’t see that GT5 is only on one console, CoD on 3 or more.

    3. speedthrill

      @ Rob:
      That they’re young and that they really don’t know where it all started and came from… 12 years ago….
      Spoiled rats…

  22. superb16

    I’m not surprised at all. Kaz is still doing things his way only. Once word spread that 80% of the cars weren’t even up to ‘Grid’ quality, this game was doomed in this country. Jagged shadows, crap sound, yada yada yada… GT’s not the only racing game in town anymore. Even if the physics are still the best, that and 200+ high quality cars aren’t worth 6 years of waiting.

  23. RedBaron

    So brave numbers for Europe and they are still not reflecting that into car park used in their games. Many european cars that deserved it aren’t premium (Veyron, RUFs as only Porsches in the game) and many are omitted completely (BMW E30 and many other BMW ///M’s, Quattro S1 Group B, many older Ferraris). Instead of that they worked out many japanese premium shopping bags on wheels.

  24. Snaeper

    The numbers are indicative of the competition. This is the first full GT game to be released since Forza has come to market. I fully expected that the U.S. would be slow selling because American’s have different needs for what they want in a racing game.

    I just hope that PD realizes that they’re not the only horse in the corral anymore and everyone wants to ride the new pony. Having not played a full GT game since GT2, I was astounded at how little has changed in terms of game design. Everything looks and performs better of course, and there’s an amazing car selection and a lot of new features, but GT needs to make a big evolutionary step if it’s going to compete with Forza.

    1. infamousDee

      GT5 sold 5.5 million copies in 10 days when FM3 topped out at just over 2 million after several months, despite being marketed toward a hugely wider target demographic.

    2. speedthrill

      @ Snaeper, PD Doesn’t care what FM at Turn 10 does…
      After 6 years of not talking about that company you all should know…

      You guys love to point the finger, but it never gets pointed back by Kaz, wich i love, but most of you fanboys seems to hate…

      Numbers are blablabala…
      Seeing 40 of my PS3 friends suddenly playing PS3 and GT5 mean enough for me…

    3. Comander Zoloft

      PD doesn’t care about FM?
      Ok, that must be why they both cancelled the march date and got caught with with an Xbox 360 in the office durring a press event after the FM3 release. Lol, they definitely care about the competition.

  25. hardvibes

    What the hell it’s not even in the top 10 of 2010

    1. Call of Duty: Black Ops (Activision Blizzard)
    2. Madden NFL 11 (Electronic Arts)
    3. Halo: Reach (Microsoft)
    4. New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
    5. Red Dead Redemption (Take-Two Interactive)
    6. Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
    7. Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
    8. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard)
    9. Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood (Ubisoft)
    10. NBA 2K11 (Take-Two Interactive)

    1. Hatmantc

      you got to keep in mind numbers 1, 2, 5, 8, 9 & 10 are all combined numbers of all the different skus each system the game came out one.

    2. G

      true and isnt just dance 2 multi platform? its just mainly kinect owners that bought it becaue theyve nothing else to play… and of course halo reach which had half a billion to $1 billion spent on advertising alone… now Im sorry but I could prob sell my turds wrapped in tin foil if I spent that much advertising them.

      fact is for a market that never really ‘got’ gran tursimo its a pretty respectable number I think

    3. Killinator

      Just a quick note, Just Dance 2 was(is) a Wii exclusive,
      Which by most accounts is a sh*t game where your supposed to dance but the game only recognises what you do with one hand,
      Hardly surprising it advertised so much.

      I would imagine with a big advertising campaign and its core fanbase, those numbers could(should) have been significantly higher.
      I don’t think I saw a single ad for GT apart from in a games mag before its release(in Europe, specifically Ireland)….not even on the sports channels!!

      That said I wouldnt be tying a rope around my neck with those figures!

    4. speedthrill

      @ Hardvibes, so what? Does that harm you? What the hell was necesary for it so it seems like it does…

      Just start your PS3, press th GT5 icon, and away you go, If it’s on top 2000 or top 1, it really doesn’t matter if you know why you play it…

  26. smoke1485

    So 1 in 600 americans bought gt5 in a 30 day period. If you put it in that perspective, its not so bad. Plus like posted above, first week sales were probably killer

  27. Catalysis

    The game certainly had a very low profile in my local Gamestop. Seems to me the hardcore fans, of which there are of course many, bought the game, but this holiday season was all about Black Ops, Assassin’s Creed Brotherhood etc., etc.

    The constant delays didn’t help, exacerbated by the eventual launch after some huge AAA titles.

    Having lived in the UK and US, I think the Gran Turismo series is a much bigger deal in Europe. Clearly the inclusion of Nascar in GT5 was part of an effort to reverse that trend, but that aspect of the game isn’t too sparkling or at all accurate in my view, so that was something of a misfire.

    Maybe the smarter future strategy is to make regional releases more regional, as it were, and tailor the car/track selection to the tastes of that region, with other regional options available as DLC.

    The over-riding feeling with GT5 is that, while it is a fabulous package, it does seem a massive opportunity missed, with little in the way of innovation to tempt non-believers.

    1. yak sox

      There’s a definite old school gaming vibe to GT5, and this shows in its approach to online activities. There’s a lot of kids out there (who’re playing Call of Duty Black Ops) that won’t pick up a game if their friends don’t have it because they want to connect online – so again it comes down to having a strong online environment.

  28. fast

    The people who really wanted this game bought it the last the week of November.

    Also, keep in mind that Black Friday sales aren’t included.

  29. Paul

    Marketing. sony doesn’t know how to market their games. When forza comes out you’ll see billboards, magazine ads, banners on every website, tv ads on every station, etc.

    Sony had a measly commercial on speed tv….

    1. Robb

      Once again this only proves that gamers aren’t “guys” and don’t watch football. If you watched the NFL (and it’s apparent you don’t) they ran ads all during December, including on Sunday Night Football. But, it seems that gamers don’t fall into the target demographic of 18-39 year old sports watching males.

    2. idlestation

      I think that’s the shooter crowd :P

      The whole problem is all the lil kids own call of duty games cause their friends own that game, its a never ending cycle of shooters. My lil cousins are neighbors are crazy about it.

    3. Rios

      Agreed Paul, I love GT5 and I’m a loyal Sony gamer sense the PSone, but Sony’s marketing and amount of advertising is horrible. I have watched TV on many different channels where it seemed like every other commercial was an ad for an Xbox 360 exclusive, at the very least every set of commercials during the show had at least one ad. Even the commercials I’ve seen for multi-platform games seem to end with an Xbox logo on screen.

      Alternatively it seems rare to see a commercial for a Sony game even if its a huge title like GT5 or back when Uncharted 2 came out, these games and others like them need advertising to get them out there in the public eye, not all gamers buy game magazines, go on-line for game information, or have twenty friends to tell them how good the game is, sure Sony put out their old stand-by funny ad for GT5 staring the VP of awesome himself Kevin Butler, but I saw that commercial a few times and then havent seen it sense.

      Why Sony has settled on a low key advertising plan is beyond me, maybe its a financial issue, perhaps they don’t have a half billion dollars to dedicate to advertising one game like Microsoft does, but in this day and age where I’m sad to say Sony no longer holds the top spot they cant just sit back and rest on the brand name anymore, that worked for the dominant PS2 but that business model simply wont work when your behind, they need to increase advertising at least for their AAA games and they need to be doing it yesterday.

      And before anyone goes and jumps down my throat and calls me names for what Ive said here, as people so often like to do on forums, let me just say first, this is nothing more then a matter of personal opinion, you don’t have to agree with it. So if you feel the need to reply, even if you disagree, please try to be kind.

    4. RTSolvalou

      GT is a prestigious game series that doesn’t whore itself and doesn’t need to, and Yamauchi is a respected head of a development team.

      Forza is the whore, they’ll go ‘all american’ with the advertising campaign, splattering it over every vacant space in every country possible.

    5. Big Ron

      But you know what? Microsoft spends three times more money into marketing for Forza than Sony for GT5. And so Microsoft needs to get all that money back with selling copies (and they hardly will).

      Sony does not care, one or two commercial spots and the games sells 5 million times (so Sony did the better job).

      Who cares about USA? It is XBOX-area and why spending a lot of money for marketing of GT5 in a country, where probably still hardly anybody will buy the game?

    6. Robb

      Once again, I don’t think Sony has settled for “low key advertising”. I really do think that gamers aren’t watching the programming that Sony DOES advertise on. I see this time and time again; “Sony doesn’t advertise. They do? I’ve never seen it. They run spots on Comedy Central, South Park, The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, Tosh .0, Big Bang Theory, How I Met Your Mother, Sunday Night Football, The NFL on CBS, the NFL on Fox, Monday Night Football, Family Guy, The Simpsons, The Cleveland Show, MANswers, The Ulitmate Warrior, Major League Baseball, The YES Network, ESPN, Madison Square Garden Netowrk, the NHL, and the NBA Game Of The Week? Gamers don’t like football, basketball, hockey or baseball. As we all know gamers don’t like to laugh, so we don’t watch anything remotely funny, and Comedy Central is always permanently blocked from a gamer’s cable system. So because we don’t watch what they advertise on, it means Sony doesn’t advertise”.

      Now before anyone dismisses this as nonsensical ramblings, these are ALL programs and networks I have seen Sony advertise on. If you come back and STILL say “I haven’t seen it”, and I’m not trying to be a smart ass here, but what does that say about you? Microsoft saturated the air waves for the simple reason that they needed to steal marketshare away from Sony. So obviously they are going to be more aggressive. And gamers here in the United States are a lot more “suggestible”. You keep saying the same things over and over again, eventually opinion will BECOME “fact”. Hence the mantra “Sony doesn’t advertise”, and other internet musings we’ve seen over the last few years.

      There was a man named Neil Bogart who used to run Casablanca Records back in the 1970’s, he used to say you could make anything a hit as long as you had enough promotion behind it. Looking back, it seems he’s more right than ever.

    7. Big Ron

      Sorry for you, that you don´t watch Comdey Central or sports events. I do and a lot of other people, too. No one sais, that gamers don´t like comdey shows or sports.

      Do you think, gamers watch video game shows the whole day or just playing games?

    8. Robb

      Well obviously if you’re playing video games, then you’re not going to see any of the TV spots. I’m a devoted New York Giant fan, so I’ve seen the TV spots here just about every Sunday, often times several times in the course of a broadcast. Those ads in the New York Metro Area reach about 18 million people. And if it’s a national game that number goes up significantly. So they ARE advertising, and advertising to a lot of people. Why gamers are still buying into the whole “Sony doesn’t advertise” mantra I really do think comes back down to that it’s been repeated so many times, and now opinion has BECOME “fact”, and the truth is lost.

      Seriously though, how many gamers do you know if you asked them would say they watch The Big Bang Theory? Or even Two and a Half Men? Those are the two most popular sitcoms in the United States. Again, I’m not trying to be a smart ass, but does anyone here, who resides in the U.S., watch them on a regular basis? It doesn’t seem like gamers like very mainstream programming.

    9. Robb

      I forgot to add, that if you’re watching BBC America or Discovery, as entertaining as those may be, you’re not going to see a lot of video game adverts on those networks.

    10. Madman Apex

      @robb i did see the GT5 advertising in canada’s comedy channel and South Park, The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, Tosh.0, Big Bang Theory; all shows that i watch. i also watch two and a half men and i never saw any GT adverts. PD im my opinion is clearly trying to reverse the trend of falling sales in the US. even though the answer to many GT questions is “because its not japanese”; PD included nascar, the single manufacturer with the most Race Modifiable cars is CHEVY, american; its an attempt in my opinion to appeal in the US.
      besides GT players dont need to be convinced of what to do in life. we are not messly little sheep that follow and go baaahh; we know what we want to play. advertisements are great but i go looking for the games i want to play, GT series, GTR/Race-07 Series; i chase them they dont chase me. Male 29 who watches F1, ALMS, college football and ONLY the superbowl. i also watch alot of discovery channel and comedy network.

    11. zr1chris

      Robb, your not 100% right. I watch ALLOT of sports and im very into Forza and GT. The main problem is the comercial is terrible and it didnt come on TV that much before the game was released so there wasnt as much build up as there could have been. The delay didnt help either. Some people cancelled there orders thinking it was going to be a lenthy delay.

    12. speedthrill

      So you guys are laying awake that Sony didn’t advertise enough for this game???

      Not to many on your friends list then?

      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAalways complaining…

    13. Dave-o

      @Robb, I get what you are saying, but I think your generalisations (gamers don’t like sport or watch comedy channel) are on the verge of being completely inacurate. Sony will have a marketing division, and even if they don’t appear to have done as good a job as Microsoft, they will have devoted some resource to market research and this will have guided them to advertise in the manner they have.

      It would be very rare to find any corporate that supplies consumer goods that doesn’t do market research and target consumer testing.

    1. Robb

      Shooters are “easy”. They all play the same, and they are all basically the same. Gran Turimso requires too much thinking for most people.

    2. john

      because 1) shooters are repetitive and they often use the same gameplay and engine over and over, so it’s easier and faster to make then
      2) every shooter now is multiplatform. when you’re selling on the ps3, 360, and pc, should have alot of sells…

    3. DJW_GT

      It is… It’s The best selling game on the PS3, closely followed by Prologue, and then Modern Warfare 2 in a measly third :p.

    4. LoneWanderer

      Probably because people keep talking about shooters and how “Black Ops is an amazing game.” I never hear conversations about GT5 or even Forza. Someday, racing games may not even exist at the rate the FPS genre is growing.

    5. Unstung

      Simply said, shooters are very mainstream and overrated. There’s only talk about them, especially in America. It’s disappointing.

    6. Christian

      Shooting games are fun, they’re the type of games many kids skip there homework for, i admit it, they are fun. But GT style games require a precision that simply dosnt exist in shooters… or forza… lol

    7. VEYRON STANDARD? WTF

      Most Americans are retarded. I live here so believe me I know. I’d say about 85% are ignorant and delusional in some way.

    8. Troll Translator

      “Most Americans are retarded. I live here so believe me I know. I’d say about 85% are ignorant and delusional in some way.”

      Translation: “My opinion is the only one that counts. I know everyting. I spout off continually, sharring my omnipotent wisdom, yet they do not hear. Therefore the problem must lay with the rest of the American population. They are incapable of comprehending my mental superiority and it’s fruits……..”

    9. Super_Colossal

      The moment someone says anything like that about a group of people, they are no longer a valid contributor to anything. Oh, and Troll Translator, I love you.

    1. idlestation

      I think its pretty good numbers, by December there were already 5.5m copies sold or something. So if it sold almost 560k copies here in NA, the world wide sales must be above 1m? So the total should be somewhere around 6.5m copies sold within 3 months? Sounds pretty good to me.. o.o

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