Hello my facebook minions. Tomorow seems like an ordinary wedsnday. But to me tomorow is possibly the most anticipated wednsday of my life. To those who regularly converse and participate in various PA meetings with me, i will not be seeing you for a while, for classified reasons (GT5) but i think i will still have somewhat of a life left, so hit me up.
BDawg
really is a shame there arent more cars with interior view, from all the videos the sense of speed is so much greater from the cockpit
terminator94zozo
GOT MY COPY YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Driver46
check out gamespot.com for a full hour of GT5 playing video.
best and longest footage I’ve seen so far. Just dont listen too much to the guys talking. ;)
BWX
Cool, checking it out now.
Andse1
Sweet, i just got my copy at 8am in the morning :D…
Yui-San
Only 5 more hours here in Taiwan (Until Release!) :) Can’t wait!
KilzoneStrife
Hey… does everyone know mechanical damage is being patched later?
dearlybeloved
Everyone the time is 9.44 and i have in my hand a copy of……GRAN TURISMO 5!!! shopto.net are gods. Peace out everyone!
the=only-batman
Won’t say what Ive got in my hand while i’m waiting!!
gtone339
1 days over here in New Zealand. :)
XTRGT
In my country only left 20Hours10Minutes to have the game.
j-kirb
I laughed so hard when I read the guys story about almost buying it a Target. I thought it was Tuesday in US…am I wrong?
24hours
Wed the 24th. Not tues. Wish it was Tuesday…:(
thisisajoke
Anyone else upset with the SX4 rally cars sound?
Mango
Here’s how to get an early copy:
1. Go to a store that has the game.
2. Find an employee that looks “cool”.
3. Tell them you want GT5.
4. Slip them $100.
5. Have them ring you up using a different game that sells for the same as GT5 (that way, it’s not like your stealing it, and no one will know the difference.)
6. Profit!
kennygunit
Actually that IS considered theft and bribery.
Mango
@kennygunit That’s why I said it’s not “like” you’re stealing it.
R.I.S.
Umm, Profit? Your out $100 just to get it 24 hours early.
Ehhh, No one will know the difference? Oh, Just the auditor that checks inventory counts, matches the missing GT5 to the surplus game “X”, looks at the period that GT5 was in store and game “X” was sold, sees which employee was working, an decides if it’s worth going after him/her.
Yes, I have earned a paycheck doing internal loss prevention security work. I catch “cool” employees.
About the only thing you got right was the not stealing part, since you paid for it, though it lacks morals.
Mango
@R.I.S. Yes, profit. To me the game is worth $500. I pay $100 bribe, plus another $60.
$500 – $160 = $340.
I would profit $340. That’s enough to buy a PS3 and a few pizzas.
Second, why would I care about some auditor? That part of the story wouldn’t involve me. It involves the employee that accepted the bribe, the store, and the auditor. As far as the store is concerned, I went in and bought Toy Story 3 for the PS3.
Lastly, morals are debatable. Would this really be immoral? C’mon, I’m just some guy who really wants to play a video game. If you really want to know who is immoral, it’s Sony. If it weren’t for them, we could have avoided this whole situation in the first place if they had just released the game on November 2 like they said they would.
R.I.S.
I like R.C. Cars. My hobby shop has a used one $100. I’d be willing to pay $350, but it’s allready marked sold. I slip the guy running the register $150 to sell it to me instead. By your definition I just profited $100 dollars. I think I’ll go spend my $100 profit on a new motor. Except wait, I don’t have $100 profits from the transaction, because nobody gave me $100 dollars. I just spent $250 on a $100 car. What I am willing to pay doesn’t matter because I still have less money in my wallet than before I bought the car. Has a result, I can claim no profit.
Has for Moral debates:
This plan of yours is immoral by definition: “(im·mor·al (-môr l, -m r-) adj. Contrary to established moral principles. im·mor al·ly adv. immoral [ɪˈmɒrəl] adj. 1. transgressing accepted moral rules; corrupt)” (theFreeDictionary”.”com)
Also, to qoute you: “Second, why would I care about some auditor? That part of the story wouldn’t involve me. It involves the employee that accepted the bribe, the store, and the auditor. As far as the store is concerned, I went in and bought Toy Story 3 for the PS3.”
The only people who make such arguments, has the one I qouted, are the ones trying to justify their own knowingly wrong behavior has being someone elses fault, or those who cannot or will not take responsibility for themselves regardless. Therefore, you just demonstrated my point, not once, but twice. You’ll only continue to twist things in your mind to justify your actions, so further “debate” would just be repeatedly explaining the definition of “moral” and “imoral” thus serving has nothing more than an off topic waste of space on Jordan’s server.
Niters :)
R.I.S.
Oh, and BTW, many retailers have there security detection coded to monitor that the item bought is actually the item walking out the door. Ringing up another item does not bypass this, so the rest of the employess would allerted to a shoplifter when you attempt to leave, getting you both busted. True, not all stores have this, but you never know.
Mango
Let me see if I can explain this better.
You are willing to pay $350.
You have $350 in your wallet.
Give the guy $150.
$100 is still left in your wallet.
You’ve profited $100.
This is where you imagination comes in. Imagine you actually paid $350 for the car (if you were truly willing to pay that much it shouldn’t be difficult). Now imagine that you got $100 back. You now have the car which is worth $350 plus the $100 you got back which equals $450. $450 is $100 more than $350. Hence, the $100 profit.
This is all included in my book “Business 101: How to Make Infinity Million Dollars”
As far as twisting things in my mind to justify my actions, I say: It works for me.
Peace out :)
GTaddict
ROFLMBO, Profit is money earned beyond what you started with. That’s what he was trying to explain to you. Paying more for something than it’s price, but less than your willing to pay is not profit, it’s a budget surplus despite bad buisness choices.
If the cool employee said, “I’ll pay $260 if you’ll bribe me $100 to sell you the game and pay $60 for the game itself.”, then you’d have a $100 profit.
Paying $100 more, just to get it a day sooner, hey, that’s your choice if it’s worth it to you or not. But then convincing yourself that still having money left over is somehow a financial profit….That is halarious. YOU JUST PAID $160 TO GET A VIDEO GAME 1 DAY SOONER! 1 DAY! ROFLMAO. Almost the price of a new Driving Force wheel. I’ve seen the GT for $135.
You crack me up man. Profit. Lol, I need to get a job at a game store….
Dave-o
Thank you Mango and R.I.S. I found that quite entertaining to read. (seriously).
I don’t need a pay rise at work. I just have to be prepared to pay more for everything. Then I can retire early on the profits I make on every single purchase I make from now on.
infamousDee
Nice troll science. Hilarious to see so many people taking this comment seriously.
CarreraGT
Funnily enough the chase cam excited me the most, even though I will never play from that view. It almost feels strange to be picking the game up in 2 days considering its been a dot on the horizon for so long now
Bernd
So true! Almost everyone was expecting a Q1/2011 release – once again PD deceived us! :D
GHO5T
Amazing
Ferrari
2 MORE DAYS
OMFG
2… MORE… DAYS!
freddy
got my copy woooooo hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
freddy
Na just kidding. I wish hehe
heavyboots
As excited as I am to get my hands on GT5 and drive some rally cars (and everything else!)…
NOTHING SAYS REALISM LIKE WATCHING THOUSANDS OF POUNDS OF RACING MACHINE MOVING AT 50-60mph RICOCHET OFF SOME NYLON WEBBING AND PLASTIC SIGNS LIKE IT JUST HIT A CONCRETE SEAWALL.
/gripe
occasionalracer
You forgot to put mph in caps…but poor Kaz has to stop somewhere… If they had to create runoff around all tracks at the detail they strive for I think we’d be sitting here on this site, still waiting for a release date.
heavyboots
Good catch on the mph! ;-)
Yeah, I’m whining, lol. But still… RBR did it in 2004 for the PS2, so it’s not like it hasn’t been done properly before, and on hardware that was even more meager.
occasionalracer
It’s not about hardware, it’s about time and space. RBR was a great game though.
TheTekator
Damn this guy sucks !
(scuse me for that)
Well, the video is showing 2 things :
– 1°) 1 SMALL (tiny) part of Eiger dirt
– 2°) The AI … Incredibly stupid. The guy driving is a total noob, but, look, is winning, by 10 seconds …
Then, there’s one thing it’s not showing : the entire Eiger Dirt version !
It a huge dirt map, that is about 4 minutes (did it with Focus WRC, with a medium skill: medium is far better than what we saw in that movie ;) )
I’m sorry that I can’t upload movie (cant actually record the game)
But, trust me, that track is … AMAZING ! :)
FlareKR
I’m giddy like a school girl!
“I WANT GT5 *SCREEEEEECH*!!!”
Holy S*$% just 2 days! 2 DAYS!
terminator363
if this is eiger k i’m not watching it, i don’t want to spoil it for myself
- SZRT Ice -
Patience is a virtue…
That I am lacking…
dearlybeloved
Here in the uk, shopto.net have got mine and i know that they are known for getting games into the hands of gamers early, so i will be up in about 7 hours as the time s 11.23 pm just hoping and i mean hoping that the postman will deliver mine tomorrow. Also I am hoping to go to GAME at around 11:30pm tomorrow and take photo’s of the release.
So hopefully, I will be getting my beloved game by tomorrow afternoon and now my life has purpose all over again. no more late nights doing watching tv but instead i will be driving and getting the love back. BTW, i have been playing GT5Prologue for the last hour.
Good times roll on!!! Peace out.
Bolg
Is it Wedneday yet? If not, why not?
bachy
lol. Yeah! Hey, Monday! Why aren’t you Wednesday yet?!
I’m going to go to bed, and when I wake up, I BETTER not see Tuesday! The newspaper at my doorstep better say Wednesday, November 24, or there’s gonna be hell to pay!
CarreraGT
Consider yourself lucky, I have to wait an extra day!
cyborg
my signature edition will be with me tomorrow.
CC-O
Per chance, did you order from GAME? I have ordered the Signiture version also and was hoping i might get it from them tomorrow judging by the dispatched email they sent me…
cyborg
yeah i did order from game, they send out the signature edition via next day delivery, i got an email from game on sunday that it had been dispatched, i should get it tomorrow judging by the tracking details.
CC-O
Mine didn’t arrive, did yours ?!
canadasux
wow-wee!
occasionalracer
eh-eh?
Vitzio
There’s also a new vid up of GT5.. look up “GT5 – McLaren F1” there’s a video of a person who owns gt5 and is driving around the F1
guyc1161
yes im referring to the driving in this vid and all the other vids but dont get me wrong i dont want to come off as a mr know it all or i can do better than that.I’m simply stating anyone can hold the pedal to the floor but control is what it’s all about.
Braking shooting for the apex max accelleration on exit,and so on….
Pack driving can be difficult, anticipate the turn coming let off the throttle if need be,rearending the car in front of you or overshooting the bend and grinding your car against a barrier wont help.
CarreraGT
Yeah don’t worry I wasn’t having a stab, I agree that most people in these videos don’t seem to understand the intracies of driving. I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who do though, so I will see you online in 3 days!
Paulo
Ironic that this game releases in the US the day before Thanksgiving!
CarreraGT
Haha yeah, words of wisdom
guyc1161
Just a remark,it’s not about how fast you drive but rather how well you drive fast.
CarreraGT
Are you referring to the driving in the video?
Dumbo
Gee, I never thought about it like that. This opens up a whole new understanding of racing to me. Thanks for the detailed explanation.
CarreraGT
Not going to lie, that looks incredible. I was a bit worried how the dust would look in the final build because its been a bit sketchy in the past but it looks awesome. Can’t wait to start making my own rally stages, here’s to hoping you can make them nice and narrow with trees lining either side
GT'ireland
the graphics in that picture look sublime,cant wait
GT'ireland
the graphics look sublime in that picture,this will be the longest 2 days ever,exciting stuff.
occasionalracer
I’m getting my copy tomorrow evening. I talked to the guy wondering about a midnight release and he was like come pick it up before we close. This game is gonna be a real dandy!
nismofreak
Where are you and which store will do this?
I ordered from GameStop. I am going to go there early tomorrow and see if they are willing to do the same thing. (*crosses fingers*)
occasionalracer
All I’m gonna say it’s a Gamestop outside of Toronto, I don’t want to be specific cause I appreciate he’s doing that and he laughingly said don’t tell anyone, so it’d be kinda rude to give the specific store on this site. I walked in, which made the difference between calling I think. Dude was telling me he’s been doing the license tests in the back and is having a hard time cause he’s not into racing, but told me he’s astonished at the graphics and detail.
ferhound
This wait was so special with this comunity. I would gladly wait GT6 like this was!
Jack Jarbas
+1 :)
For me, 1601 minutes to midnight =D
occasionalracer
I’m trying to figure out if that was sarcasm or not…lol. Lots of complaining and lots of excitement, but a hell of a lot of anticipation. It’s safe to say PD will keep the mystery tradition up for GT6…. we can release it whenever we want..hahaha. One more day of Prologue to kill, that’s what I’m talking about.
acekev1983
Can’t wait just 27 hours till i pick up my copy from GAME on Oxford Street at midnight tomorrow.
V8Blender
something about it reminds me of cathedral rocks. think it’s jus the mountainous surroundings, similar to El Capitan. looks amazing however. can’t wait to put in some solid runs on this :)
Skiddy
Just got a call from my retalier. Lovely female voice told me to come in and pick up my copy first thing wednesday morning. Thank you very much..
scoop2004
Less than 12 hours til the postman comes!! And he WILL have it with him
Kenny
Use the force scoop. Let it guide your postman….;)
VEYRON STANDARD? WTF
no he won’t. release date delivery means they’ll put it in the mail on the release date. so unless you got the fastest one day shipping possible, you won’t even be getting it on the 25th. be prepared to curse at the mailman because you’re a fool for not realizing what release date delivery means
Kenny
@VEYRON STANDARD? WTF
Ehhh,no.
My employer has been shipping for the last three days so that peoples orders arrive ON release day. That’s why it’s called “release day delivery”, and not “Shipped on release day delivery.”
Sometimes people get lucky and it comes a day early even.
VEYRON STANDARD? WTF
either you’re lying or the rules are different outside of the USA. eitherway, have fun depending on the mail
R.I.S.
Nope, that’s how it works. In the USA has well. There is absolutely nothing stopping a shipper to send out with a target delivery date of release day. Sorry.
24hours
UPS tracking shows mine coming on time to me on the 24th. I’m in the US, and you don’t get tracking estimates untill UPS has it in system.
ken_b
Jordan and the GTP staff, thank you for this post and all the others since the new release date was announced! You all deserve very cold beer!!
This looks awesome, I can’t wait to play this sim. I hope there are various configs for the G27…time will tell!!
Peace.
kalekyn
That my friend is the most peaceful answer indeed. Time will tell!! No need to complain. Cheers to Jordan, the staff and all the fans getting ready to enjoy like you. Oh my! a cold beer!!
JasonMann
i like it, cant wait til wednesday….
chump
very reminicent of El Capitan..
Paulo
Extremely, I thought it was at first glance.
Brian Cowen
Except El Capitan was awesome and Eiger is horse manure
Bernd
Yes, I think I’ll play GT4 occasionally, just to see that beautiful scenery again
Dan
I thought I saw a rock that wasn’t textured well! bawk bawk whine whine!
John
Some people, I tell you, can just never be satisfied. *rolls eyes*
Kenny
And that folks, is an example of what we call irony….
GT_Fanatiic
@Dan LOL
J.B.
I’ve busted my ass trying to get an early copy…
Went to Target lastnight and had the game in my hands…I told the guy that I saw it in the add in the morning, he didn’t know anything about the game so he looked it up on his scanner gun and saw he had it, but it didn’t have a location in the store so he went to the back, found it and came out with 6 copies and handed it to me.
I gave it back to him to ring up…about peed my paints before his screen went red and it said, DO NOT SELL UNTIL 11/24… I about cried…I was so close!
I still have another route I’m trying to go to get it early…Fingers crossed!
VEYRON STANDARD? WTF
I’m glad I didn’t go through that but doesn’t it get you really angry that some stores are breaking the rules just for a petty few extra sales? you can’t blame the customers but I think those stores should be sued, or the rest of the stores in USA should just start selling it
GT'ireland
you have waited this long,whats another 2 days? Im enjoying the excitment to the build up ,obviously i want the game now but its all part of the fun dont you think.
TTownEP
I’ve been trying to convince my GameStop to give it to me because I am travelling for Thanksgiving, and I want my GT5! They won’t budge though. I’ll be back Friday morning though, and they open at 12:01 for Black Friday, so I guess I’ll just haul myself up there to pick it up ASAP Friday. Darn holidays!
VEYRON STANDARD? WTF
are you kidding me? you like waiting? what’s wrong with you? I suppose you wouldn’t care if they delayed it or if every store on your continent didn’t get the shipment for 2 months? and if you say that then you would be angry, then why aren’t you angry about 2 days? not wanting the game now just shows a really weird indifference to a game that you talk about on a blog often enough to comment in its news section
GTaddict
Lol.
GT’ireland= Making the best of the situation, finding enjoyment in life. Remebering it’s only a game.
VEYRON STANDARD? WTF= Winding himself up for a future painfull stress induced cardiac arrest.
I do hope you can see the difference between 2 days, and two months. Niether is a pleasant length of time, but 2 days is nothing compared to what we’ve allready done.
Besides, life is full of waiting. Best to learn how to deal with it young rather than risk not growing old. ;)
Napoleon_Ist
since the thread about the GT5 copies leaked in France is closed, i’ll put this here:
don’t forget these shops are the biggest video game franchises in France and GT5 is the local bestseller of the year. the only way to fight unfair competition from UK online shops like shopto.net (play.com is based in the Guernesey island which is a tax haven if i remember correctly) who sell the game at €42,99€ instead of 59€ (or 60+) who shamelessly steal French sales, the only way for them was to sell the game earlier than the online shops.
that’s as simple as that.
Medno84
Hmm. Never been my thing. Will mostly use my time on the asphalt rather than dirt! Can’t wait!!!! 2 days left.
someone
looks neat as F*** , but please , tell me there will be a way to turn the HUD OFF …
Pedz
There will almost certainly be an option to turn HUD off, I believe there is one in GT5P, and I know there was one in GT4. So don’t fret, they will let you turn it off if you wish =]
Gork
No you can’t. It’ll most likely be a patch for it though.
VEYRON STANDARD? WTF
that is the most lame complaint I’ve ever heard. do you really have that bad vision that you can’t just see the massive amount of track on the rest of the screen? seriously, the HUD takes up 10% and somehow it’s something you can’t get over? it’s not even like the HUD holds any importance besides your own personal preference, it’s in all games so why complain now? nobody cares
Paulo
Perhaps you don’t care, but a lot of people do. Yes it is a minor thing, but the option to allow you to turn off the HUD wouldn’t hurt. I loved playing GT4 without the HUD on cluttering the screen. Being that they had this previously, most thought that it would still be there. Hopefully they will patch this in an update.
Mig
I actually have a plasma screen and being able to turn the hud off means its not going to permanently burn the hud on my plasma. So it does matter for me, otherwise im stuck on only playing 1hour at a time… cant have that
VEYRON STANDARD? WTF
well I agree, any feature in previous games should stay, and I surprisingly didn’t know that plasma’s can have images burnt into their screens, I should have known that but either way, I think that if it was in gt4 it’s an understandable complaint because there’s no legitimate reason not to have it. However, all these complaints about not being able to change some of the rims on cars is absolutely rediculous, and a pathetic complaint. So, the whining of standards not having changeable rims has now taken over as the most pathetic complaint I’ve heard so far lol
Bernd
@Veyron – I’m not complaining, just wondering. I simply don’t see a reason for leaving this possibility out. I always loved to change the rims, because it gives that extra “personal touch” to your car. But we’ve got +200 premium cars, haven’t we? :D
McSmith
just two more days 0_o
JK
Thats a nice video you took, now you take one if GT5… What! That is GT5.
ExtremeGT5
Crazy! I want GT5 right now!!
BubbleBelly542
Doesn’t everybody?
caasimun
i do toooo :3
ExtremeGT5
No, not everyone wants it… like the forza fans
VEYRON STANDARD? WTF
I’m pissed off that some stores are selling it early. Part of it is jealousy of the people who are playing it, i would do the same but either way, unless you’re doing a review, there’s no reason for you to be able to play it early unless you stole it. i can’t understand how stores are getting away with it, aren’t there laws against it or at least clauses in contracts to prevent this? gameplay videos aren’t worth knowing the fact that other screwed stores that I can’t reach are breaking the rules while my stores refuse to. I don’t know which stores I’m more angry at, the ones selling it or the ones who aren’t
Sum1s2pid
I’m most angry at employees in US stores who can’t be bribed. Curse you!
HunterKiller87
@ Veyron Standard, I work at a retail store in the northern midwest, US called Meijer. If we sell any game before its official release date the store can be fined by the game company. For most stores, the sales for releasing the game early probably will not overcome the fine and possibility of not getting games on-time anymore. Obviously some stores in Europe think they can sell enough copies….good luck.
VEYRON STANDARD? WTF
@Sum1S2pid agreed.
@HunterKiller87 at least there is a deterant. Of course, some game stores could easily alter the records & make sure the customers can be trusted not to reveal how they got it early but eitherway, I believe it’s the retailer that’s to blame, not the customer. If I could get it early, I wouldn’t be angry at all so I don’t blame the customers lol
robert
looks awesome…should be fun round this with focus RS !!!!
Johan
1 Day 14 hours 30 min 20s
Tom Ste... GT5!!!!
Johan – I get it in the morning Ill update you on how amazing it is if ya want, while you have to un-patiently wait for another day XD have fun
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Hello my facebook minions. Tomorow seems like an ordinary wedsnday. But to me tomorow is possibly the most anticipated wednsday of my life. To those who regularly converse and participate in various PA meetings with me, i will not be seeing you for a while, for classified reasons (GT5) but i think i will still have somewhat of a life left, so hit me up.
really is a shame there arent more cars with interior view, from all the videos the sense of speed is so much greater from the cockpit
GOT MY COPY YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
check out gamespot.com for a full hour of GT5 playing video.
best and longest footage I’ve seen so far. Just dont listen too much to the guys talking. ;)
Cool, checking it out now.
Sweet, i just got my copy at 8am in the morning :D…
Only 5 more hours here in Taiwan (Until Release!) :) Can’t wait!
Hey… does everyone know mechanical damage is being patched later?
Everyone the time is 9.44 and i have in my hand a copy of……GRAN TURISMO 5!!! shopto.net are gods. Peace out everyone!
Won’t say what Ive got in my hand while i’m waiting!!
1 days over here in New Zealand. :)
In my country only left 20Hours10Minutes to have the game.
I laughed so hard when I read the guys story about almost buying it a Target. I thought it was Tuesday in US…am I wrong?
Wed the 24th. Not tues. Wish it was Tuesday…:(
Anyone else upset with the SX4 rally cars sound?
Here’s how to get an early copy:
1. Go to a store that has the game.
2. Find an employee that looks “cool”.
3. Tell them you want GT5.
4. Slip them $100.
5. Have them ring you up using a different game that sells for the same as GT5 (that way, it’s not like your stealing it, and no one will know the difference.)
6. Profit!
Actually that IS considered theft and bribery.
@kennygunit That’s why I said it’s not “like” you’re stealing it.
Umm, Profit? Your out $100 just to get it 24 hours early.
Ehhh, No one will know the difference? Oh, Just the auditor that checks inventory counts, matches the missing GT5 to the surplus game “X”, looks at the period that GT5 was in store and game “X” was sold, sees which employee was working, an decides if it’s worth going after him/her.
Yes, I have earned a paycheck doing internal loss prevention security work. I catch “cool” employees.
About the only thing you got right was the not stealing part, since you paid for it, though it lacks morals.
@R.I.S. Yes, profit. To me the game is worth $500. I pay $100 bribe, plus another $60.
$500 – $160 = $340.
I would profit $340. That’s enough to buy a PS3 and a few pizzas.
Second, why would I care about some auditor? That part of the story wouldn’t involve me. It involves the employee that accepted the bribe, the store, and the auditor. As far as the store is concerned, I went in and bought Toy Story 3 for the PS3.
Lastly, morals are debatable. Would this really be immoral? C’mon, I’m just some guy who really wants to play a video game. If you really want to know who is immoral, it’s Sony. If it weren’t for them, we could have avoided this whole situation in the first place if they had just released the game on November 2 like they said they would.
I like R.C. Cars. My hobby shop has a used one $100. I’d be willing to pay $350, but it’s allready marked sold. I slip the guy running the register $150 to sell it to me instead. By your definition I just profited $100 dollars. I think I’ll go spend my $100 profit on a new motor. Except wait, I don’t have $100 profits from the transaction, because nobody gave me $100 dollars. I just spent $250 on a $100 car. What I am willing to pay doesn’t matter because I still have less money in my wallet than before I bought the car. Has a result, I can claim no profit.
Has for Moral debates:
This plan of yours is immoral by definition: “(im·mor·al (-môr l, -m r-) adj. Contrary to established moral principles. im·mor al·ly adv. immoral [ɪˈmɒrəl] adj. 1. transgressing accepted moral rules; corrupt)” (theFreeDictionary”.”com)
Also, to qoute you: “Second, why would I care about some auditor? That part of the story wouldn’t involve me. It involves the employee that accepted the bribe, the store, and the auditor. As far as the store is concerned, I went in and bought Toy Story 3 for the PS3.”
The only people who make such arguments, has the one I qouted, are the ones trying to justify their own knowingly wrong behavior has being someone elses fault, or those who cannot or will not take responsibility for themselves regardless. Therefore, you just demonstrated my point, not once, but twice. You’ll only continue to twist things in your mind to justify your actions, so further “debate” would just be repeatedly explaining the definition of “moral” and “imoral” thus serving has nothing more than an off topic waste of space on Jordan’s server.
Niters :)
Oh, and BTW, many retailers have there security detection coded to monitor that the item bought is actually the item walking out the door. Ringing up another item does not bypass this, so the rest of the employess would allerted to a shoplifter when you attempt to leave, getting you both busted. True, not all stores have this, but you never know.
Let me see if I can explain this better.
You are willing to pay $350.
You have $350 in your wallet.
Give the guy $150.
$100 is still left in your wallet.
You’ve profited $100.
This is where you imagination comes in. Imagine you actually paid $350 for the car (if you were truly willing to pay that much it shouldn’t be difficult). Now imagine that you got $100 back. You now have the car which is worth $350 plus the $100 you got back which equals $450. $450 is $100 more than $350. Hence, the $100 profit.
This is all included in my book “Business 101: How to Make Infinity Million Dollars”
As far as twisting things in my mind to justify my actions, I say: It works for me.
Peace out :)
ROFLMBO, Profit is money earned beyond what you started with. That’s what he was trying to explain to you. Paying more for something than it’s price, but less than your willing to pay is not profit, it’s a budget surplus despite bad buisness choices.
If the cool employee said, “I’ll pay $260 if you’ll bribe me $100 to sell you the game and pay $60 for the game itself.”, then you’d have a $100 profit.
Paying $100 more, just to get it a day sooner, hey, that’s your choice if it’s worth it to you or not. But then convincing yourself that still having money left over is somehow a financial profit….That is halarious. YOU JUST PAID $160 TO GET A VIDEO GAME 1 DAY SOONER! 1 DAY! ROFLMAO. Almost the price of a new Driving Force wheel. I’ve seen the GT for $135.
You crack me up man. Profit. Lol, I need to get a job at a game store….
Thank you Mango and R.I.S. I found that quite entertaining to read. (seriously).
I don’t need a pay rise at work. I just have to be prepared to pay more for everything. Then I can retire early on the profits I make on every single purchase I make from now on.
Nice troll science. Hilarious to see so many people taking this comment seriously.
Funnily enough the chase cam excited me the most, even though I will never play from that view. It almost feels strange to be picking the game up in 2 days considering its been a dot on the horizon for so long now
So true! Almost everyone was expecting a Q1/2011 release – once again PD deceived us! :D
Amazing
2 MORE DAYS
OMFG
2… MORE… DAYS!
got my copy woooooo hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Na just kidding. I wish hehe
As excited as I am to get my hands on GT5 and drive some rally cars (and everything else!)…
NOTHING SAYS REALISM LIKE WATCHING THOUSANDS OF POUNDS OF RACING MACHINE MOVING AT 50-60mph RICOCHET OFF SOME NYLON WEBBING AND PLASTIC SIGNS LIKE IT JUST HIT A CONCRETE SEAWALL.
/gripe
You forgot to put mph in caps…but poor Kaz has to stop somewhere… If they had to create runoff around all tracks at the detail they strive for I think we’d be sitting here on this site, still waiting for a release date.
Good catch on the mph! ;-)
Yeah, I’m whining, lol. But still… RBR did it in 2004 for the PS2, so it’s not like it hasn’t been done properly before, and on hardware that was even more meager.
It’s not about hardware, it’s about time and space. RBR was a great game though.
Damn this guy sucks !
(scuse me for that)
Well, the video is showing 2 things :
– 1°) 1 SMALL (tiny) part of Eiger dirt
– 2°) The AI … Incredibly stupid. The guy driving is a total noob, but, look, is winning, by 10 seconds …
Then, there’s one thing it’s not showing : the entire Eiger Dirt version !
It a huge dirt map, that is about 4 minutes (did it with Focus WRC, with a medium skill: medium is far better than what we saw in that movie ;) )
I’m sorry that I can’t upload movie (cant actually record the game)
But, trust me, that track is … AMAZING ! :)
I’m giddy like a school girl!
“I WANT GT5 *SCREEEEEECH*!!!”
Holy S*$% just 2 days! 2 DAYS!
if this is eiger k i’m not watching it, i don’t want to spoil it for myself
Patience is a virtue…
That I am lacking…
Here in the uk, shopto.net have got mine and i know that they are known for getting games into the hands of gamers early, so i will be up in about 7 hours as the time s 11.23 pm just hoping and i mean hoping that the postman will deliver mine tomorrow. Also I am hoping to go to GAME at around 11:30pm tomorrow and take photo’s of the release.
So hopefully, I will be getting my beloved game by tomorrow afternoon and now my life has purpose all over again. no more late nights doing watching tv but instead i will be driving and getting the love back. BTW, i have been playing GT5Prologue for the last hour.
Good times roll on!!! Peace out.
Is it Wedneday yet? If not, why not?
lol. Yeah! Hey, Monday! Why aren’t you Wednesday yet?!
I’m going to go to bed, and when I wake up, I BETTER not see Tuesday! The newspaper at my doorstep better say Wednesday, November 24, or there’s gonna be hell to pay!
Consider yourself lucky, I have to wait an extra day!
my signature edition will be with me tomorrow.
Per chance, did you order from GAME? I have ordered the Signiture version also and was hoping i might get it from them tomorrow judging by the dispatched email they sent me…
yeah i did order from game, they send out the signature edition via next day delivery, i got an email from game on sunday that it had been dispatched, i should get it tomorrow judging by the tracking details.
Mine didn’t arrive, did yours ?!
wow-wee!
eh-eh?
There’s also a new vid up of GT5.. look up “GT5 – McLaren F1” there’s a video of a person who owns gt5 and is driving around the F1
yes im referring to the driving in this vid and all the other vids but dont get me wrong i dont want to come off as a mr know it all or i can do better than that.I’m simply stating anyone can hold the pedal to the floor but control is what it’s all about.
Braking shooting for the apex max accelleration on exit,and so on….
Pack driving can be difficult, anticipate the turn coming let off the throttle if need be,rearending the car in front of you or overshooting the bend and grinding your car against a barrier wont help.
Yeah don’t worry I wasn’t having a stab, I agree that most people in these videos don’t seem to understand the intracies of driving. I’m sure there are plenty of people out there who do though, so I will see you online in 3 days!
Ironic that this game releases in the US the day before Thanksgiving!
Haha yeah, words of wisdom
Just a remark,it’s not about how fast you drive but rather how well you drive fast.
Are you referring to the driving in the video?
Gee, I never thought about it like that. This opens up a whole new understanding of racing to me. Thanks for the detailed explanation.
Not going to lie, that looks incredible. I was a bit worried how the dust would look in the final build because its been a bit sketchy in the past but it looks awesome. Can’t wait to start making my own rally stages, here’s to hoping you can make them nice and narrow with trees lining either side
the graphics in that picture look sublime,cant wait
the graphics look sublime in that picture,this will be the longest 2 days ever,exciting stuff.
I’m getting my copy tomorrow evening. I talked to the guy wondering about a midnight release and he was like come pick it up before we close. This game is gonna be a real dandy!
Where are you and which store will do this?
I ordered from GameStop. I am going to go there early tomorrow and see if they are willing to do the same thing. (*crosses fingers*)
All I’m gonna say it’s a Gamestop outside of Toronto, I don’t want to be specific cause I appreciate he’s doing that and he laughingly said don’t tell anyone, so it’d be kinda rude to give the specific store on this site. I walked in, which made the difference between calling I think. Dude was telling me he’s been doing the license tests in the back and is having a hard time cause he’s not into racing, but told me he’s astonished at the graphics and detail.
This wait was so special with this comunity. I would gladly wait GT6 like this was!
+1 :)
For me, 1601 minutes to midnight =D
I’m trying to figure out if that was sarcasm or not…lol. Lots of complaining and lots of excitement, but a hell of a lot of anticipation. It’s safe to say PD will keep the mystery tradition up for GT6…. we can release it whenever we want..hahaha. One more day of Prologue to kill, that’s what I’m talking about.
Can’t wait just 27 hours till i pick up my copy from GAME on Oxford Street at midnight tomorrow.
something about it reminds me of cathedral rocks. think it’s jus the mountainous surroundings, similar to El Capitan. looks amazing however. can’t wait to put in some solid runs on this :)
Just got a call from my retalier. Lovely female voice told me to come in and pick up my copy first thing wednesday morning. Thank you very much..
Less than 12 hours til the postman comes!! And he WILL have it with him
Use the force scoop. Let it guide your postman….;)
no he won’t. release date delivery means they’ll put it in the mail on the release date. so unless you got the fastest one day shipping possible, you won’t even be getting it on the 25th. be prepared to curse at the mailman because you’re a fool for not realizing what release date delivery means
@VEYRON STANDARD? WTF
Ehhh,no.
My employer has been shipping for the last three days so that peoples orders arrive ON release day. That’s why it’s called “release day delivery”, and not “Shipped on release day delivery.”
Sometimes people get lucky and it comes a day early even.
either you’re lying or the rules are different outside of the USA. eitherway, have fun depending on the mail
Nope, that’s how it works. In the USA has well. There is absolutely nothing stopping a shipper to send out with a target delivery date of release day. Sorry.
UPS tracking shows mine coming on time to me on the 24th. I’m in the US, and you don’t get tracking estimates untill UPS has it in system.
Jordan and the GTP staff, thank you for this post and all the others since the new release date was announced! You all deserve very cold beer!!
This looks awesome, I can’t wait to play this sim. I hope there are various configs for the G27…time will tell!!
Peace.
That my friend is the most peaceful answer indeed. Time will tell!! No need to complain. Cheers to Jordan, the staff and all the fans getting ready to enjoy like you. Oh my! a cold beer!!
i like it, cant wait til wednesday….
very reminicent of El Capitan..
Extremely, I thought it was at first glance.
Except El Capitan was awesome and Eiger is horse manure
Yes, I think I’ll play GT4 occasionally, just to see that beautiful scenery again
I thought I saw a rock that wasn’t textured well! bawk bawk whine whine!
Some people, I tell you, can just never be satisfied. *rolls eyes*
And that folks, is an example of what we call irony….
@Dan LOL
I’ve busted my ass trying to get an early copy…
Went to Target lastnight and had the game in my hands…I told the guy that I saw it in the add in the morning, he didn’t know anything about the game so he looked it up on his scanner gun and saw he had it, but it didn’t have a location in the store so he went to the back, found it and came out with 6 copies and handed it to me.
I gave it back to him to ring up…about peed my paints before his screen went red and it said, DO NOT SELL UNTIL 11/24… I about cried…I was so close!
I still have another route I’m trying to go to get it early…Fingers crossed!
I’m glad I didn’t go through that but doesn’t it get you really angry that some stores are breaking the rules just for a petty few extra sales? you can’t blame the customers but I think those stores should be sued, or the rest of the stores in USA should just start selling it
you have waited this long,whats another 2 days? Im enjoying the excitment to the build up ,obviously i want the game now but its all part of the fun dont you think.
I’ve been trying to convince my GameStop to give it to me because I am travelling for Thanksgiving, and I want my GT5! They won’t budge though. I’ll be back Friday morning though, and they open at 12:01 for Black Friday, so I guess I’ll just haul myself up there to pick it up ASAP Friday. Darn holidays!
are you kidding me? you like waiting? what’s wrong with you? I suppose you wouldn’t care if they delayed it or if every store on your continent didn’t get the shipment for 2 months? and if you say that then you would be angry, then why aren’t you angry about 2 days? not wanting the game now just shows a really weird indifference to a game that you talk about on a blog often enough to comment in its news section
Lol.
GT’ireland= Making the best of the situation, finding enjoyment in life. Remebering it’s only a game.
VEYRON STANDARD? WTF= Winding himself up for a future painfull stress induced cardiac arrest.
I do hope you can see the difference between 2 days, and two months. Niether is a pleasant length of time, but 2 days is nothing compared to what we’ve allready done.
Besides, life is full of waiting. Best to learn how to deal with it young rather than risk not growing old. ;)
since the thread about the GT5 copies leaked in France is closed, i’ll put this here:
don’t forget these shops are the biggest video game franchises in France and GT5 is the local bestseller of the year. the only way to fight unfair competition from UK online shops like shopto.net (play.com is based in the Guernesey island which is a tax haven if i remember correctly) who sell the game at €42,99€ instead of 59€ (or 60+) who shamelessly steal French sales, the only way for them was to sell the game earlier than the online shops.
that’s as simple as that.
Hmm. Never been my thing. Will mostly use my time on the asphalt rather than dirt! Can’t wait!!!! 2 days left.
looks neat as F*** , but please , tell me there will be a way to turn the HUD OFF …
There will almost certainly be an option to turn HUD off, I believe there is one in GT5P, and I know there was one in GT4. So don’t fret, they will let you turn it off if you wish =]
No you can’t. It’ll most likely be a patch for it though.
that is the most lame complaint I’ve ever heard. do you really have that bad vision that you can’t just see the massive amount of track on the rest of the screen? seriously, the HUD takes up 10% and somehow it’s something you can’t get over? it’s not even like the HUD holds any importance besides your own personal preference, it’s in all games so why complain now? nobody cares
Perhaps you don’t care, but a lot of people do. Yes it is a minor thing, but the option to allow you to turn off the HUD wouldn’t hurt. I loved playing GT4 without the HUD on cluttering the screen. Being that they had this previously, most thought that it would still be there. Hopefully they will patch this in an update.
I actually have a plasma screen and being able to turn the hud off means its not going to permanently burn the hud on my plasma. So it does matter for me, otherwise im stuck on only playing 1hour at a time… cant have that
well I agree, any feature in previous games should stay, and I surprisingly didn’t know that plasma’s can have images burnt into their screens, I should have known that but either way, I think that if it was in gt4 it’s an understandable complaint because there’s no legitimate reason not to have it. However, all these complaints about not being able to change some of the rims on cars is absolutely rediculous, and a pathetic complaint. So, the whining of standards not having changeable rims has now taken over as the most pathetic complaint I’ve heard so far lol
@Veyron – I’m not complaining, just wondering. I simply don’t see a reason for leaving this possibility out. I always loved to change the rims, because it gives that extra “personal touch” to your car. But we’ve got +200 premium cars, haven’t we? :D
just two more days 0_o
Thats a nice video you took, now you take one if GT5… What! That is GT5.
Crazy! I want GT5 right now!!
Doesn’t everybody?
i do toooo :3
No, not everyone wants it… like the forza fans
I’m pissed off that some stores are selling it early. Part of it is jealousy of the people who are playing it, i would do the same but either way, unless you’re doing a review, there’s no reason for you to be able to play it early unless you stole it. i can’t understand how stores are getting away with it, aren’t there laws against it or at least clauses in contracts to prevent this? gameplay videos aren’t worth knowing the fact that other screwed stores that I can’t reach are breaking the rules while my stores refuse to. I don’t know which stores I’m more angry at, the ones selling it or the ones who aren’t
I’m most angry at employees in US stores who can’t be bribed. Curse you!
@ Veyron Standard, I work at a retail store in the northern midwest, US called Meijer. If we sell any game before its official release date the store can be fined by the game company. For most stores, the sales for releasing the game early probably will not overcome the fine and possibility of not getting games on-time anymore. Obviously some stores in Europe think they can sell enough copies….good luck.
@Sum1S2pid agreed.
@HunterKiller87 at least there is a deterant. Of course, some game stores could easily alter the records & make sure the customers can be trusted not to reveal how they got it early but eitherway, I believe it’s the retailer that’s to blame, not the customer. If I could get it early, I wouldn’t be angry at all so I don’t blame the customers lol
looks awesome…should be fun round this with focus RS !!!!
1 Day 14 hours 30 min 20s
Johan – I get it in the morning Ill update you on how amazing it is if ya want, while you have to un-patiently wait for another day XD have fun