Update 1.15 has just been released as a 589MB update for Gran Turismo 6, and brings with it one of the most radical concept cars the series has seen since the Nike ONE 2022 was introduced in GT4: the Chaparral 2X.
The laser-powered hyper car from the GM Design team was covered in full detail when it was unveiled at the Los Angeles Auto Show last month, and it’s finally available to everyone in GT6. Vision GT enthusiasts will note that this car, unlike several of the other concepts, features an interior view, which should make it one of the most popular yet in the series.
Another pleasant surprise was included in this update: the Infiniti Vision Gran Turismo concept. A naturally-aspirated 4.5L V8 powers the engine at higher speeds, while a separate electric motor provides low-end torque in slower corners.
The car was created by a young team of automotive designers in Infiniti’s new Beijing design center, and the company apparently has aspirations to build and race an actual version of the car in the future.
Other changes in 1.15 include:
- The sorting order of your car list in the [Garage] will now be saved.
- A notice will now be sent to the [Messages] inbox of users whom content created within the [Community] area has been removed due to a violation of SEN Terms & Conditions.
- Fixed an issue regarding the camber angles of cars shown in the [Favorite Cars] tab within the [My Page] section of the [Community] area not being displayed correctly.
As always, visit our Gran Turismo 6 forum for more analysis and discussion of additional undocumented changes and features which might have worked their way into the game.
See more articles on Chaparral, GT6 Updates, Infiniti, and Vision Gran Turismo.
So, did anyone notice, on the chaparral, when its painted ghost white, across the front fenders it has 666, but when painted black theres only one 6? Also i get the idea of the gt vision thing. I think its actually a pretty cool idea. But when you got cars like these that are just purely fantasy cars, i mean come on. This is gran turismo, not hot wheels the game.
Just wondering, but has the Weird Advertising Nomenclature Kinetic Energy Recovery system been enabled for any of these cars, and if so what benefit would I be seeing?
Haha I see what you did there…it’s on for the survival 10 lapper at Nurb GP. In my experience, it destroys tires faster.
European humor. Too funny.
Australian thank you very much!
I always thought “w@nker” was a Euro’ term? My mistake.
No offence was taken. I was just being a smart arse. ;-)
Ok…
Did anyone else notice in the sketches of the 2X that Circuit of the Americas is the track shown on the HUD of sketch #14?
Let me know if you do.
Letting you know that we know.
I swear, JP’s like the new Toko. Just a bit “edgier”. Lol
I wonder what Toko is up to these days.
Likewise…
Does someone knows a way to gold the 2X event? I have seen the top replays and I don’t understand how ppl manage to maintain such a high speed at turn 2, with full throttle and no understeer… This is frustrating. But I’ll keep trying anyways!
Ok nvm I managed to do 0:46.971 with ASM on, in my ds3.
Since the vehicle’s movement is powered by a thruster and not drive wheels, braking at specific points while under simultaneous acceleration (thrust) does wonders.
So, now it’s been one year since PD signed this 1-year VGT contract, right?
Not sure if I read well about this, but now that it’s over, PD should be able to focus more on the game?
Correct me if I’m wrong anyone, I’m just basing myself from what I’ve seen as a comment in another news page.
Also, c’mon PD, that can’t be the only thing we get for X-mas, right? Tell us you’ve got something hidden we won’t know for the new year or so, I’m basing this off the fact you said big updates we’re coming. (I’m guessing when the VGT 1-year contract’d be over)
I forbid any counter-productive comment to be as a reply to the one I wrote. If I said something stupid myself, then I’m sorry.
There’s been 10 manufacturers that have released their VGTs.
There’s another 19 manufacturers still on the current list that are yet to do so.
I love the Chaparral 2X. It’s so fun to drive!
Anybody know if theres a way to turn the TC off on the 2X? It seems its stuck on 5 and nowhere to turn it off. Other than that, sweet update thx PD, keep them coming
I haven’t really looked into it, so I may be wrong.
But I was under the impression it’s drive comes from the laser pulse/air burst.
Therefore it’s essentially free wheeling as far as drive is concerned.
TC isn’t a factor.
@aussie, I noticed when I looked at the world rankings, TC is set to 5. I really feel like its keeping me from setting a good time. I do use a DS3 but im not sure if that has anything to do with it
There are no drive wheels on the car so the TC setting should be irrelevant.
Toyota TS030 lost FIA WEC logo displayed on car. Awesome….
That happend in an earlier update.
Why does the Infiniti not have an interior view?
Keep it coming, Kaz. :)
Happy Holidays, PD.
Love the 2X!! It is as insane as I imagined. Right now I’m practicing driving this thing smoothly. It’s really rewarding when I nail it juuuuuust right. Even the Infiniti isn’t too shabby either – too bad it’s no interior job.
BTW, that survival race thing is really brutal – love it. I’m gonna try it again later on. Don’t care about the paint chip but I’m gonna gold it, somehow. More practice, maybe.
Is the Chaparral Chevrolet’s VGT or GM Design’s? Because the GM Design slot of the VGT section is still there. Does this mean GM is giving us another VGT or is it a mistake by PD? Boy I hope it’s not a mistake. I’d love another American VGT.
Also the Chaparral seasonal is the only thing in GT6 that I cannot gold. I’m stuck at 47sec. The 2X is extremely difficult to steer with a controller.
It is a Chaparral Vision GT. General Motors still has their own Vision GT on the way.
2X is a m a z i n g .This thing handles just like 2D with some extra speed and just a thought you’re laying facedown few cm over road going 450km/h is insane.Detuned to 750 is a blast in GT World Championship.So much fun , I didn’t have time to drive Infiniti yet. Good work PD.
I agree with you on the 2X but the one issue that really limits it is the fact that the active aerodynamics seem to be working backwards. It remains good around tracks like the High-Speed Ring or Suzuka but around turn 3 of Monza it just goes off unless you play with the throttle and brakes. Hopefully they’ll correct the issue with the next HotFix…
@Greg – I did the exact same thing (GT World Championship. Loved the sub 3 minute laps at Le Mans and a 6:47 on the N24.
@AbsoluteBarstool – So you’re saying you have to use brakes and feather the throttle when going round a corner? That’s crazy, next you’ll be saying you need to turn the steering wheel too. Political correctness gone mad.
@imalexi – Well yes, the fact that you have to slow down sufficiently to allow the car to corner is crazy, but what I’m saying is that the aerodynamic devices working backwards is a crippling factor around faster corners. The side of the car on the inside of the line should be subject to more drag, not the outside. At lower speeds it is as satisfying to drive as… Certain things. If they flip the aero devices around it would be one of the best cars in the game in any situation.
I wonder if the visual representation of the active aerodynamics represents the actual physics of the car. Ride height for example is still glitched and the visual is opposite of the physics so that you get better rotation by raising the front not the back of the car.
The Infiniti is really nice… but why does it come in at 563pp when all the other VGT cars sit around 600…. ?
Because it’s a different car?
Lol
@johnypeno im honoured you have found my comment worthy of trolling… but read carefully… it is implied and acknowledged in my post that the Infiniti is a different car to the other VGTs. The point being that the Toyota Subaru etc (different cars) are in a similar power bracket so they can be raced against each other whereas the infiniti sits alone in a lower power bracket.
Do you have a source for your contention that the VGT’s were purposely designed to be close in performance so they can be raced together or are you just assuming it because a few of them are close together in PP?
No and and as far as i am aware the desigh brief hasnt been released to the gaming public. BUT… the project has been going for a year…. i would like to think that throughout the time someone at infiniti checked the gsme and “the competition”. judging by what released so far (exception of Chapral) i refuse to believe that these VGT cars were created in a “vacuum” …surely someone at infiniti thought…..everyone else seems to be making flat looking racers with futuristic designs competitive with a tuned ferrari lambo or GTR… some are using hybrid technology… why is our car (which looks really hot) as slow as a family sedan? Is this the infiniti vision for the future?
I don’t know a lot of family sedans with 563PP in the game. Can you name a few?
Wow Johnny. You don’t have to be rude. I think he means that the cars were never designed to be raced together, but when they all came out, it would be awesome to have a giant VGT race. :) it’s just a shame the Infiniti is left behind.
I try really hard to stay out of comments on news articles for a while now.
But this is just silly beyond belief theses days.
JP isn’t being rude to answer questions with logical or factual responses.
It’s hysterical how when someone on here hears something the way they didn’t want to, it’s imedietly grounds to discredit or point fingers.
It’s almost as comical as the “Klubbin” J guy the other day saying anyone complains is a child and must be under 25!
Lol
The adult voice of reason is user named KlubbinJay.. I’d wager this guys born in the 90’s and probably 28 looking down on someone who’s 22 like they’re so incredible different.
It’s beyond ignorance some of the material ppl put on here!
Truely….
As for the Infinity VGT car… There’s no reason other then your personal want for it to be scored in the exact same PP range.
And a simple answer given isn’t particuallly a troll move as its ask a simple question and get a simple answer.
But funny one felt the need to reiterate the original posting and the finger point that followed.
“Close to the 90’s”
Auto correct is as annoying as not being able to edit comments
lol..@drag lab
another thought concerning the VGT fuzz :). The game is not at all about what others want. what the majority wants. There is an explanation for how little PD seems to listen to what we have to say and how that is actually a strength. What one can see is how much of KAZ’s personal vision is shining through in how the game is evolving. you can feel his personal passion and he has been pushing it till unseen heights. he is setting his own goals and when he does so, he delivers to the fullest. that means weak points where his focus is not. he is not looking for some kind of average of what everybody wants. it’s a personal project, it’s about what he likes and wants, what triggers him. it’s a game with a true identity. It has been like that since the past. It remains that way and I think that makes it shine and stand out.
It’s a commercial product made by a commercial software House and sold tp customers…
We customers have the right to complain about the product we have paid For…
When you go to buy a car and you want a pickup the auto salon guy doesnt sell you a coupé cause it’s his vision on how a car should be… He sells you the car you customer want…
Period…
i’m sorry riblo but i gotta disagree. You are talking about the retailer of the game. the auto salon guy is in your case the guy in the local store where you can buy your game. of course he won’t sell you a coupé (Forza) if you want a pickup (GT) or vice versa. but that’s not what it is about. to continue your path: PD is more at the level of the car manufacturer. if you go to buy a Mercedes, how the car handles, feels, looks, is built,… has already been decided by the car manufacturer. the identity of the car is something that is already there. something you choose for or you don’t…
When you order a Mercedes with an automatic transmission, you don’t have to wait a year for Daimler to design and build the transmission and then install it on your car, and then hope and pray that the transmission works and isn’t full of bugs. No?
Can we get an actual car pack? geez so many new cars missing.
+1
It seems to me that there are those that love the VGT’s passionately, those that are indifferent and those that cannot stand the inclusion of these cars. I think that all peoples comments are valid even if some go about it the wrong way. I am in the camp of not being interested in the VGT’s as they are basically a vision of what we might be driving somewhere in the future whether it be the short term or longer term. Whilst I agree all cars start on the drawing board some are fantastical in there styling and others are more practical and more likely to go into production. What I am unhappy about is being forced to download a big update and yes I consider anything over 500M to be big, just for the sake of being able to continue to play online, especially when I am not interested in the content. Why cannot PD keep the cars separate to the required feature updates so those that are not interested in VGT’s or the videos that go with them don’t have to clog up there hard drive with pointless data! Especially considering the fact that the PS3 seems to on occasions struggle with the massive updates as it is, meaning some users cannot even play on line due to corrupt installs. I myself had to re-install the game numerous times and even and to buy the Digital Download version as my disc stopped being read.
Whilst im on the other side. I like the Vision concept… i completely agree.. my PS3 is dying (not much space left) ive had to uninstall other games to get it to run the game with all the installs and for what Hi Def video of a bunch of heck designers talking and posing… PD knos the limitation of this device… i hope they allow you to delete the videos or stream them..
As for the whole… ill never get to drive it its not a real car… lets face it… most of us will never get to drive many of the cars in the game…
With 60fps videos now available online to everyone with an internet connection, it’s pure arrogance and presumptuousness on PD’s part to include a half gig of content in an update that you can’t get rid of and will likely only use (watch) once. On top of that trying to pack that half gig content onto already overcrowded and severely memory limited systems that many PS3 owners still use. If they gave a hoot about their customers they would simply offer it as a separate DLC download and throw it up on their Youtube channel at 1080/60 and be done with it.
Don’t worry man. I’m sure a lot of us here can relate. I, for one, am not anywhere close to being an expert driver, but I enjoy a challenge once in a while, and the latest seasonals do seem to deliver. I haven’t tried them out yet so I can’t gauge the difficulty, but I definitely will after my exams. A lot of people were complaining about SRF being on lol, I guess that’s why… Just keep at it and avoid the AI lol… Also, maybe turn on some/all aids? Like for wet races, I usually have TCS on at around 6-8 with FR cars. Hope that helps man! :)
Has anybody finished the 10 lap survival race ?
I am only an average driver, not someone who is trying to be the fastest in the world,
but i have found that race to be Ridiculously Hard !!. I know i will probably be told
to improve my driving skill or to get better, but this event, and i know it is an “expert” level
event, is too hard for the average driver ( about 60% of gt users ? ). why should i be alienated because i am not an expert. The AI in this race is crazy, i get taken out by other cars and i get the penalty !!! WTF is that !! The car slews off the track FOR NO REASON !!. Now you will probably say “dont do the seasonals then”, fair enough, but i have paid money for the game, just like you, and dont see why i cant reap all the rewards just because i am, not an expert.
Lol sorry, I posted above… -_-
Why should expert drivers be alienated because you’re not one? There are always people looking to break barriers and exceed limits. Why should they not be allowed their fix? Just like Insane Difficulty levels in other games that reduce health, remove shields, omit hearts, and increase difficulty to rage-quit inducing levels. You called it when you said it yourself “don’t do it then”. It’s not going to earn you any trophies and the prize and money can be earned other ways.
Either that, or Google racecraft, study some YouTube vids, join the GTP Community in the forums to get some tips, find a skilled buddy buddy to do some practice sessions online and get pointers, and get with the program!
This is Gran Turismo! And this is GTPlanet! Many of the best racers are formed here! Believe in yourself and get to it! Don’t quit until you get that Gold!
Szrt. + 100
The question is… How much do you really want that Pink Flourescence colour…? How much time and dedication are you willing to commit to get it☺
It’s just a game though, you shouldn’t have to waste time on all that just to win a videogame event, it’s ridiculous and quite pathetic, it’s just entertainment not a lifestyle, the solution would be to have diffculty options so that all players can play at their level
Quite right Mickey. With scalable difficulty levels, every event can be noob friendly or expert and completely up to the player.
if you’re still trying to complete it, i reccomend using a super gt car and running racing softs at the beggining, then on lap 3-4 come in for intermediates and then lap 7 in again for softs. first attempt i did found me trying to keep on the intermediates until the end and i ended up with no grip and an uncontrolable car. When i used the other method i won by 20sec.
Btw i use a G27 and a track setup on HSV 010 base model.
Good Luck!
Not a lifestyle? Tell that to the people that time attack seasonal events to reduce their times by fractions. Tell that to the GT Academy finalist, and all the people aspiring to one day be one. Added to it, an endorsement by FIAA and major companies in the auto industry signing exclusive deals, it’s clearly more than “just a game” to a wide range of people. There are many people who do the things I suggested, and calling the efforts of others ridiculous and pathetic is belittling, offensive, and disrespectful. Just because you don’t understand or share in the passions and lifestyle of others, doesn’t make them pathetic.
And no, for seasonals, there shouldn’t be a difficulty level. The point is to gauge the elite from the average, or in other words, see where you rank up against the rest of the world. Thus, like any experiment, there needs to be a median and the median needs to be the same for everyone.
Leave the difficulty level for the career mode, where catering to individual skill levels actually matters.
You missed the point by a mile Ice sorry. Difficulty levels could be adjustable for any event – in terms of winning the prize only, not to qualify for the main leaderboard. The main leaderboard should be a fixed set of parameters (IMO 1 leaderboard for ABS=1 and another for ABS=0 and all leaderboards sortable by country, input device etc like this: http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?sec=3 )and everyone on that leaderboard is a using that exact same parameters. But to qualify to win the car or just to run the event only and not be on the leaderboards, you can throw any old aids, tires you want on the car and go for it, you just won’t be on the leaderboard. I don’t see how that harms anyone at all and the introduction of a fixed set of parameters for all leaderboards would be a huge bonus for consistency in the game.
I get the point JP, and when presented as you suggest then it’s a bit more sensible. But GT has never been about babysitting people or adding training wheels. You either master it or you don’t. There’s no gray area. And an Easy Mode in some way, is like congratulating improper racecraft. Why should GT compromise what it’s always been? A game that focuses on improving people’s racecraft. An “Easy” mode is meant for Arcade Mode and Arcade games. If PD is to implement one, their approach has to be very specific, or they risk sacrificing what GT’s “challenge factor”. And to many, that’s what keeps them interested. Knowing that they achieved and acquired something that required a particular skill level to achieve.
I don’t see how I was so far off point with my reply. Do you always have to come off snarky, belittling, and demeaning in your responses? I always feel like you’re challenging someone’s intelligence or talking down to someone rather than conversing and discussing with someone.
Not nit-picking, there are times when I knowingly and willingly choose to be an @$$ #013 myself, but that’s usually when I feel someone is being unnecessarily disrespectful towards someone who’s attempting to make a decent point yet can’t explain themselves properly. But I don’t feel my commentary as of late warrants that kind of rebuttal from anyone, so I’m just curious as to why? You seem very aggressive lately.
Sorry, can’t tell if serious or trolling ice. GT is the least serious of any game ever calling itself a simulator. The entire game but for a Seasonal here or there is “easy mode”…lol. I don’t know where you come up with this stuff but it’s very entertaining.
Speaking of licence tests, Red Bull Challenges, and things of that nature (controller user). The fact that you find it easy, speaks of your skill level. The typical “Arcade Racer/Gamer” cannot keep a vehicle in Gran Turismo on the track.
I’m glad that you’re entertained, & no. I’m not trolling.
What?!! Another VGT car that isn’t from Geely?!! I want my Geely VGT car, Kaz! It’s better than ALL of these other VGT turds. It has the “Great Wall” rear spoiler (made of real granite), Chairman Mao-eyed laser headlights, and actual lead paint. It’s the first VGT car with realistic damage modeling- if you contact the wall, it will fold up on itself like a wet cereal box. Other than that, it’s just a counterfeited BMW X5. I want my Geely VGT!!!
Screw that, I’m wondering where the Chery Amulet VGT is! Forget a wet cereal box, when that thing hits a wall at anything above 30, it gets crushed like a rusty tin can under a tank. Combined with its incredible instability and lack of power, it’s a rolling safety car.
I just want my Vision Gran Turismo from Lens Crafters! They’re B-Specs that lets you see VGTR (Virtual Gran Turismo Reality)! Put them on behind the wheel and traffic will automatically start rubberbanding according to your driving characteristics!
@SZRT HAHA! Good one. :)
I heard they were naming them, the LC Vision 20/20. Due for release in 2020.
Lmao @ginsunh
I wonder if the GM VGT will include a set of keys that may fall out while cornering and shut down the motor causing your wheel/DS3 to become unresponsive and going straight off into the barrier.
Wasn’t there supposed to be a Brilliance or Hongda VGT that looks like a real concept but with the weakest chassis of anything, 200 BHP, a 0-60 time of ~8 seconds and a weight of 1.8 tons?
Cheers P,D, Free stuff is cool. At least p,d, don’t want us to pay real money for this stuff like those greedy gits codemasters with the extra content they made for Grid Autosport. Only one single thing i would ask for in gt6 though is the detailed interiors for all RUF cars. Those cars are so important to this game, plus not only that but they are real fun to drive. Maybe a little bit of camera movement in the cockpit cam would be cool as well? sometimes i just feel the cockpits feel far to static. A slider to adjust it would be sweet. Also i don’t get why people want the track editor thing so much, i thought it wasn’t very good in the last game. If they give me the detailed RUF cockpits then i am 98% happy with gt6.
It would take courage apart to ask money for this stuff …
@Scots…lol
I finally got gold on 2X time trial. That flashing light and rattling noise the whole time didn’t help. I still like the car though.
it definitely is a challenge. so far I got to 46.303 secs. I’m not gonna stop tho. I kept shortening my time by like half a second each time.
Let’s hope this is the last one before B-Spec and Course Maker arrive.
That was never a selling point, do you even have the game? Where on the case does it mention the course creator? It only stipulated Add-on content. I don’t get internet rage, none of what you assume is specifically stated on the box and what is is already in, so either toss the game out and cry or just relax. I wonder if you guys get heightened blood pressure the way you guys rant and rave over some missing features you assumed would be in by your own timeline?
I still do not understand why vgt cars, for the most, are impossible to customize (at least suspensions); races are made customizing suspensions, from ancient times (Greeks always done in their wagons, so did the Romans in Colosseum chariots races); chaparral x2 is one of the most useless car ever: don’t bends, don’t brakes, and of course, no suspensions customization to try solving these problems… i guess that without a high-end wheel and pedals (that i do not have), to feel really well how the car behaves, it’s quite difficult, this time, to achieve gold.
That car can still be managed through driving it. It requires that you either go slower in the turns or you control the power through the turn (Latter is faster). The braking is great but you need to brake early with the 2X, especially if you’re at top speed. And you can’t modify the suspension because the suspension on the 2X is the bodywork of the car with a few pieces thrown in. You can try adjusting the brake balance to help, I think a 0-10 balance makes it turn in better.
I don’t think there is any time trial that is impossible, PD tends to set the times themselves internally by actually driving the courses so it’s not impossible. They use stock tune locked cars to keep the playing field level and you have to adapt to the car not the other way around. The car is fine, it’s your driving that needs work.
@ SavageEvil Really? The car is fine? Or, maybe, it’s to fast, compared to chassis and brakes? Surely, i have to learn a lot about such a car (that is pretty different from a normal car), but it is even true that the chaparral is a car good only for oval track and only when brakes will be hugely improved; if you read again my previous post, you can find that i said that i probably need a good wheel and pedal, that i have not, so maybe, you have right to say it is, partially, a my problem; till now i had always achieved gold (maybe i’ll do this time too, with more patience), but say that the chaparral is fine it is a bit exagerated… The Infiniti, instead, it’s a really good car, even if i can’t make any kind of suspensions customization; in any case, it is strange this difficulty, from PD, to understand the importance of customization.
This is a completely different car than any of you have ever driven and completely different physics than PD has ever worked with. The wheels are not driven and that changes everything in the way the car handles. PD did the best they could with the information they had and you just have to get used to the result and do the best you can.
That infiniti looks way better than I thought it would. And the chaparral in one update. This is pretty nice.
Thanks*
Those cars are just examlpe
Update 1.15 went to ‘quick match’ after update and it crashed the system black screen and only way to reset was to turn it off with the power button. Obviously a few bugs in it still.
CIRCUIT of the AMERICAS in the concept art with elevation changes…..next map?
Try Chaparral’s home track, they are from Midland, Texas which isn’t too far from Austin
That’s actually a very brilliant endurance circuit in France. Care to guess?
Anyone else having trouble downloading the update? I keep getting an error message (80710723) and it stops downloading. My connection is otherwise fine.
VGT’s are fantastic.. that Chaparral!! WOW!! Thanks PD.
Sigh, rinse and repeat. Nice cars, hopefully that update contained even more bits and pieces for the next major update. I get bored of reading comments from folks who know nothing about programming or what it takes to actually ensure that things need to work before you release it. People seem to want some Assassins Creed Unity or some Halo:MCC. This is a PS3 not even modern tech and it’s already quaking, PD have to make sure things work without crippling your system, either sit tight and wait or just move on…the constant complaining with every update is ridiculous it’s as if those complaining can’t even read, they told you what was in it beforehand. I refuse to believe that some humans can be this dense, but then again this is the internet the place where foot in mouth is an art form.
For those who are kind of lost, GT has always been an encyclopaedia for cars, so weird cars that will never be on a road, concepts and other things are and have always been a part of it. Go and fire up any GT game and see that each one contains cars not even on the roads. Take your expectations elsewhere you are the one lost, GT has remained the same since inception. If you played GT since the beginning then making such a statement is mind boggling in itself. I always get upset when we lose cars in GT, because it’s always had cars no one else seems to care about or things we never knew existed. I’ll happily play GT as long as it keeps all the cars from here on out and keeps giving me interesting things to drive along with the normal cars people already have grown accustomed to. If that doesn’t suit you, there are other car games out there that probably can.
Agreed, why complain about VGT cars when we have been told they are coming and its always the same ‘ we want real cars ‘ well they are real cars, real concepts, I love them and they are free, cant complain really. There seems to be a lot of people on here that are here simply to disrupt because I cant see how you can possibly complain about every single update.
I dont really care about the VGT cars to be honest. But i dont mind them being in it for the reasons uve explained. But what i would prefer aside these concepts are more production cars in a dlc pack like they did in gt5. For someone that plays this game daily it gets boring fairly quick.
Some people are easily impressed just because stuff is free. Some of us would rather pay money and get what we want. No one is saying you shouldn’t love them Kolloson, but many people are clearly saying they don’t have the same emotional attachment as you do and they’d rather the modeling effort be put into real cars they can emotionally connect with. Is that hard to understand?
Yea not everyone got money to burn jonny
A few dollars a month on DLC isn’t “money to burn” it’s pocket change.
After $ONY’s being breached do you think anyone wants to give up their plastic digits
Screw yo DLC x9000 I dig these free mods *cough* updates
Shoo scram
That’s what they PS card is for.
*the*
… Again, fantasy, ridge racer cars!
I used to love GranTurismo because of real daily cars. It was a joy to play your car, or another car you could see on the road or at car dealer.
Come on PD, the serie lost it’s identity.
i totally disagree. first of all. these are not fantasy cars. these are actual real life car designers views onto the future. those cars are real modelled with an approach to search for how the car would handle, how the engine would perform,… to me, doing this puts PD at the summit of how connected a game can be with reality. did you watch the Chaparral youtube clip? and with that, it exactly sets it’s identity. not only to this particular vision GT element but in the whole approach of how the game addresses the driving world and reality. we all long for more cars real life cars of course. so do I. but adding those real life cars is not setting an identity. and I think, how GT6 has evolved, how they do not drop it like some other T10-ers have done, that really shows the identity.
They’re great eye candy, for sure, but rubbish for anything else imo.
Well said @Enciah
Well said, MightyL.
you used to love GT because of real daily cars ? what and now you don’t ? why have they removed cars then ? what an illogical comment….
MightyL nailed it
@Enciah As long as these aren’t hovercars or flying cars, I don’t mind, I guess. Gonna try these two cars soon enough.
“Powered by laser”, now that’s really different. The Chaparral 2M reminds me of… I know I’m probably gonna be blasted with negative comments but oh well, my opinions, my right of speech.
It looks like the Redbull X2010/X2011/X2014.
Many people want real cars they see on the road, not “real cars” created in a lab or on a drawing board. There is no emotional connection to these vechicles, it’s more of an intellectual curiousity. Your Pa never drove one, your Uncle didn’t have one, the guy up the street doesn’t have one either. GT used to be about the having a huge variety of real cars people could connect with for their very own personal reasons. Why is that so hard to understand and why must people jump so hard to PD’s defense every time someone mentions it?
Many people want real cars they see on the road, not “real cars” created in a lab or on a drawing board. There is no emotional connection to these vechicles, it’s more of an intellectual curiousity. Your Pa never drove one, your Uncle didn’t have one, the guy up the street doesn’t have one either. GT used to be about the having a huge variety of real cars people could connect with for their very own personal reasons. Why is that so hard to understand and why must people jump so hard to PD’s defense every time someone mentions it?
All cars you see on the road were once cars designed on a drawing board, or created in a lab. VGT’s may very well be the cars you see on the streets one day. So your son might drive one, your nephew might have one, and the guy up the street might have one too.
You see, GT was never JUST ABOUT having a variety of real cars people can connect to… That’s just what it was for you and those who share that sentiment. For others, it’s about discovering the rare and unique. To drive cars they could only dream and imagine driving. Or to discover cars they’ve never heard of. For some, it’s about GT3, Le Mans, and other racing type vehicles. Some people only drag race. Some drift. Some wish for more Rally and others stick tightly to NASCAR. Some people just like the photo mode, and the list goes on…
So the problem is, is that not everyone shares YOUR SENTIMENT of what GT is, should be, or used to be about. Because it’s really just about what part of GT resonates with us individually, and the things in GT and the car culture alike that the world takes notice of…
You are at the point of being deliberately obtuse. I specifically said, “many people want real cars”, not “I want real cars” and reading through this news item and the update and other threads in the GT6 forum it seems the vitriol surrounding this continued focus on fantasy and make believe cars and away from the real and most desired cars is reaching epic proportions. There is a growing discontent among the hardcore fanbase for the lack of DLC based on real, live, production cars. This cannot be denied.
I want both. I wish we had more Vision GT cars, but it would be nice to get just as many production cars too. The only bad thing about the VGT cars are the interi…oh, you know what? I’ve complained about interiors too much and this will be the last time (I hope).
Okay, let’s be acute and focus on “the many people that do…”, and completely disregard “the many people that don’t…” for a minute.
Let’s say they did focus on real cars for a duration. What cars would you and all these people like to see them add? I could care less about street cars and would want hyper, super, sports, rally/off-road, D1, and some muscle. That’s a wide range that many will care less for, and some will appreciate. Many will complain for THEIR preference, while some will be happy with the ones we receive. Do you really think that adding more “regular” cars to Gran Turismo is going to make a difference? And if so, which ones do YOU suppose they add to do so? I’m curious to know what
you think will make a world of difference. Because just like the VGT’s, some will like them, and others could care less. I don’t think even a P1, Apollo, or La Ferrari would change that.
I can tell you for a near certainty that at no point in GT5 when DLC was released did anyone ever make a post along the lines of “I want more fantasy cars in the game”
I can say for certain that since I’ve wanted a GT90 and Vector M12 since they were removed in GT2. The Renault Espace van is up there on the list of cars desired to return to the series. And the Cadillac Cien and ZZII are definitely on my list for cars desired to be “Premium-ized”.
I’m seriously looking forward to the Lamborghini, Jordan, Nike, Bertone, SRT, Peugeot, Audi, Alpine, & Honda!
Cadillac Cien is only in your list, SZRT
Yes Ice, because “I’ve wanted” = “no one has ever asked for”…lol.
No smart guy. “I’ve wanted” = “I’ve asked for”. I did not say it, but as a reply, I thought it to be obvious I inferred it. Insight and intuition isn’t your strong point huh?
I don’t really care to scower the forums through years of posts to find the ones where someone requested a concept car. Regardless, I’m sure I’m not the only one.
*Inferred, implied, whatever.* (either one suits…)
“laser-powered hyper car…”
Please PD, stop being Rage Racer, with this flood of fantasy cars, and back to be GT.
Thanks.
Agreed!
Talk to GM about that. PD has nothing to do with it.
PD had nothing to do with the Chapparal being in the game? Huh, and here I thought they were the producers of the game. I guess GM just walked into PD’s offices and said, “this car is going to be in the game whether you like it or not”.
Why do you insist on being a smart-ass with me? Did I do something to offend you? PD gave these companies “designer-freedom” to create their vision of an ultimate “Gran Turismo” car. Did it have to be an unrealistic “laser powered hyper car”? No. That was GM/Chapparal’s decision. The Mercedes, BMW, FT1, Astom Martin, Nissan, Volkswagen, Mitsubishi, Subaru, and Infiniti are not fantasy to me. They are very real/realistic in nature and fit with the times to a degree. The exceptions may be the Volkswagen, Nissan, and Subaru for being overly “angular” and lacking in visibility, so they may need to be toned down a bit. The others would need very minor adjustments to be seen on the streets of Dubai or a billionaires garage.
I doubt if Kaz disagreed with a brands design, he’d still be a man of his word and honor the design with it’s inclusion in the game… Whether he liked it or not.
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I doubt if Kaz disagreed with a brands design, he’d tell them “No, I’m sorry. I don’t like/approve of this car. I’m not putting it in the game. He’d likely still be a man of his word and honor the design with it’s inclusion in the game… Whether he liked it or not. I’m sure a contract was signed as well, as this isn’t something to play around with. These brands are investing time and money into the development of these vehicles. I can’t imagine how damaging it’s would be to the GT series if Kaz wasted their time, and reneged on an agreement.
If BMW did an M3 VGT,
Mercedes did an SLR AMG Black Series VGT,
Mitsubishi did a Lancer Evolution XI VGT,
Volkswagen, a traditional GTI/Jetta VGT,
Toyota, an RZ Next-Generation Supra VGT Reveal,
Nissan, a 400z/400zx VGT,
Subaru, a WRX (Rally Inspired) VGT,
Aston Martin, with a Vanquish/Vantage/DB11 inspired VGT,
and GM did a Corvette/Camaro inspired VGT, half of you guys wouldn’t be complaining.
So again, “talk to GM (and each brand you disapprove of) about that. PD has nothing to do with it.”
I repeat what i said exactly a year ago: these VGT’s are a miserable commercial operation of the automakers involved in the game, wishing get publicity with these futuristic jalopies. All this at the expense of real models, the most appreciated by lovers of this series.
PD, Kaz, change route!
How do you know that they are at the expense of real cars? When was it said that PD will put all other cars on hold in order to make Vision GT cars? You know what they say about assuming, right?
We know this to be a fact @Optic
Fact: PD has produced around 400 unique premium cars (not incl. base models, near duplicates, liveries etc. ) in 10 years. 40/year.
Fact: The VGT’s were supposed to be out within 1 year. That’s 30 cars in one year, representing 75% of the modeling capacity of PD.
Fact: We know they are working on GT7 side by side with GT6 and must retain some new car models for the new game so they can’t put 100% of their car modeling effort into GT6.
Looking at those numbers it’s not hard to figure out that the VGT’s represent a huge portion of PD’s modeling effort, and it’s no surprise they aren’t all ready in the first year, given they had to release the Senna content, the Hudson and a few others.
Touche.
Thus, again, the real dilemma. PD’s lack in work force.
Well said Johnny
How fast can the 2X go?
Whaaaatttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!
Has anyone actually gotten gold on the 2X seasonal? It just seems impossible with a car that corners like a tank covered in vasoline. But i DID figure out using the gas and brakes together help rotate the car. Another thing, does it seem like the flaps are moving the wrong way? Like shouldnt the flaps on whatever side of
*the car is on the inside of the corner move up instead of down to add grip to the inner wheels? Since the weight of the car already shifts to the outside… it seems like they do the opposite of what makes sense…
Went straight into the XJ13 overtake event…i have wanted to drive this car for a while but have not had the cash to buy…and when i saw the event paid 700k (multiplyer charged to 200%) for gold i figured bonus… didnt bother checking what crappy colour id get…. event is fun … took a number (more than im willing to admit) to get in the high 52s for gold…. (you need to take the last ferrari through the bends and before the last corner otherwise it slows you down too much )… was happy enough to get 2.75 million credits and then .. bonus …. you get the xj16 … a 20mil car as a present… with parts installed..
The chaparral is cool but it will probably be just another car that sits in the garage. Idk if this car will have any use in the game except for looks.
Perhaps it’s the high def videos that always stream when a new VGT car is released that add to the size of the download.
Well, it will if you leave it there. I think one of the best things about the initiative is that it gets people trying other cars rather than going straight for the same old favourites that they know can beat the competition.
Admittedly the 2X is a bit special in that respect, but that doesn’t stop any of us taking it out for a Sunday spin.
Any ideas why this update is so big for just 2 VGT cars and a couple of small fixes?
Yeah, you are probably right, this game seems to be becoming one big advertising campaign for manufacturers as opposed to a driving sim, total waste of space on the hard drive in my opinion! No wonder people have issues installing the updates. Do we really need the videos!
You’ve gotta keep in mind that there are two 1920×1080 HD videos that are included in this update for the Vision GT cars. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was over 100MB right there…
Another update also had videos along with many other features that exceeded the amount we see in this update. So I think there is something else in here.
XJ13 prize car?? Sick. THANKS PD
Really? Oh that’s sweet… I have the credits, but I would be under $5,000,000 if I bought it and I really want one. I’m mad that I wasted money on the $20M Ferrari 250 GTO. That Ferrari is one of my favorite cars ever, IRL, but in the game you can’t adjust the camber or toe and it’s way too high – especially considering that camber does not work properly in this game. Yes, it’s much, much better since v1.09, but it’s still not working 100% like it should…
I hate the XJ13 Event. I can pass every car without probelm, except for the last one. If the car you need to pass touches you, then you are disqualified. After many restarts, I finally was able to pass the grandma beind the wheel of the Ferrari up front. The thing is, no matter how fast you are in every corner, you will never pass the Ferrari before the last corner; in which it takes it at 15 mph in the apex. After I completed the event, it enraged me to find out that despite passing every car, I got a Gold Time of 0:53.421 I also had to take the outside of the last corner to win, but I was almost sideswiped coming out of the corner by the Ferrari. -_-
Highly skilled (top 5%) players will find this one easy. As you get faster, you’ll be able to pass the last car on the inside easily. I did, and am only at 1829th place, so there’s alot of folks out there faster than you and I….LOL.
It took a while to install just for 2 VGT’s.
Everyone.
The big one.
It’s next.
Christmas.
My buddy just messaged me on PSN saying its snowing at Spa? Idk, downloading now. If its inky 2 VGT cars I’m disappointed, even though Chaparrell is the coolest VGT thus far.
More VGT yawn! How about fixing the fact you cannot adjust the time of day on Red Bull Ring or adding one or 2 ‘real’ cars for a change! I have come back to GT from Forza 5 and am loving the game even with all its flaws but do not get this obsession with concept cars! Oh well I suppose it’s better than nothing
Surprised at the lack of complaining thus far. I’m happy to have these new cars, will have to try them out on Thursday. I do, however, think there will be another update this month.
Your hopes are way too high, so were mine before update 1.15… I wanted something cool which I forbid myself from talking about to avoid this news page from turning into a cesspool.
I’d be seriously ex-TREME-ly impressed if they did. After all you should know their pace is soon ™ and/or whey feel like it.
Brunet, do you think they held off releasing Zahara because PD are a bunch of meanies? Or maybe because they had trouble getting the thing to work without major issues? I think I know what the answer is.
All right, I confess, I was annoyed and out of myself when I saw the update. It’s out of my system since yesterday.
Look, whenever the next update comes, I’ll gladly take it. Sorry for… yeah, sorry for having been butthurt yesterday.
Does Infinity VGT have an interior actually in the game? There was an image in gallery with it, so I guess it’s there for some reason :D
Question to the tuners in the game: Was this the only issue with camber? From what I’ve heard and seen, camber and toe have been jacked up for quite some time and don’t really work as they should. Does this help fix the issues, or are they still mucked up?
That camber fix in the update looks like it’s only cosmetic to me.
Great don’t know when I’ll be able to download it hopefully Friday.
So America’s and Europe’s VGTs have at least one car with an interior, now next up is Japan…
Cars don’t have actual interiors. Haven’t you noticed that most cars in real life have just block shadows? This is the Real Driving Simulator after all; that’s proof right there that cars don’t have things like vents, dash boards, radios, instermentation, etc. Maybe Kaz has a “vision” problem with his eyesight that only lets home see pass the windshield. People at the Ring 24 Hours should really be careful around that guy.
*him
Dude. No game on the market has as many premium quality vehicles as GT. They just opened positions for hire on their design team. Give them a chance. At present, their team is still small.
Not having enough people to do a job correctly is no excuse. If I go to a restaurant and they are short handed and because of that the service sucks, I’m not ok with it. It’s managements fault for not giving me the proper service by not hiring enough people to do the job that they promised customers. As consumers, we only care about what the finished product is, not what goes on behind the scene (well, maybe people with political opinions like made in the USA or living wage issues with Walmart or companies that commit genocide like Shell; but that is not the case here).
@OpticZero
I’m sorry PD has let you down on so many fronts, including the interiors. You should be happy for the fact that you’re even playing the game.
Quality Vs Quantity. More interiors = Less Cars. They’ll catch up eventually (hopefully).
No track editor ?? :(
:*(
W00T! Just when my interwebz reconnect!
Can’t wait to try these out once the servers are back on.
Cool!