GT6’s next update will be with us next week and brings with it the latest effort in blurring the lines between the game and real life – “GPS Visualiser” – demonstrated in the official video above.
The feature takes circuit driving data recorded by compatibly equipped cars – essentially anything using a GPS-enabled CANbus, though initially limited to a Toyota system – and converts it into GT6 replay data. This will allow GT gamers to race ghosts of laps set in the real world, opening up a world of real vs. simulation race possibilities.
The feature makes “Gran Turismo 6” the first officially compatible application with the Toyota’s “Sports Drive Logger” which goes on sale from June 2nd. This tech has been in development since 2007, while GTPlanet site owner Jordan got a chance to experience an early build at Willow Springs in November 2013.
For those not into ghost-chasing, the resulting performance data can be combined with the Data Logger feature of GT6 to analyse the throttle and brake positions of the real drivers to improve your own times.
At this time it’s not known what else will be included in the v1.06 update, but we’ll bring you more news as it arrives. In the meantime, check the relevant thread in the GTPlanet forums for more information and discussion.
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Well that at least PD added the custom spoiler category. Even though it is limited, I hope they add more custom components, and let us paint it a different color. Also if they did this to the spoiler category then that may mean every other catergory may become like this.
Please re-get rid of the comment section. Nothing but mass negativity and stating the obvious. When pd adds something its complaining when they dont its complaining. No one needs to write that dlc hasnt been added or that certain content isnt here yet. PD is fully aware of this and so are we. It spoils the article and news.
The thing alot of people on here dont get is why so many people are so angry. I have been playing gran turismo from the begining, always been a huge fan of the series and had much respect for PD for creating it. I still have every game from 1 to 6. However the simple fact remains that there have been no real updates, no dlc, and no features that were supposed to be included. So much didnt make it to the game, then we were told it would be all patched in. So far nothing. We were told monthly support with new tracks and cars. Again nothing. All we have gotten was a slightly polished GT5 with microtransactions. MICROTRANSACTIONS!! REALLY? I can understand the lack of support for GT5. Although it didnt come out til the last half of the ps3s life cycle, ok whatever. It was their 1st attempt on a hard to program concole. I get it. You live and learn. However thats the problem. They didnt. We seem to be going down the same path as GT5. And they arlready making GT7? Aint that what they did with 5? Basically say here you go, workin on the next one. And now they basically have already pulled the plug on 6, workin on 7 with a planned release next year? And you think even your most hardcore fans are excited about that? Anyone remember sega? They pushed and pushed the saturn then what, 2 years later scrapped it and announced the dreamcast. And what happened? When you dont have faith in your product, how do you expect customers to have faith in you? You cant overhype something, not deliver on your promise and announce your next game right after to be released next year and expect people to just jump up and throw more money at you. Thats why so many people are p***ed. They wanted to love it. They wanted to give them another chance. They moved passed the problems with GT5 and was excited for the future. And yet again, they were let down. And i was let down. As sad as it is for me to say, i am not looking forward to GT7. There are 2 racers that have caught my eye for ps4, drive club and the crew. Thats where my money is going. Even if they end up sucking, at least they are new franchises and it wont be such a disapointment like if they had such a big legacy behind them such as gran turismo has. These games cater to a very specific crowd. A disinguished crowd. We are people who want more then a typical arcade racer. We dont want the need for speeds or midnight clubs or burnouts. We expect and demand greatness. And this is the 2nd time in a row that our expectations have not even came close to being met. I still play GT6 when im in the mood for a racer, but personally, my faith in the series, and PD has come to an end.
I haven’t played in months, all I want is a Camaro ZL1 ’12 to race against the GT500 ’13 is that to much to ask for? I want real racing with qualifying and actual racing from past GT’s ps and ps2 era they were a blast all PS3 era GT’s have been a waste of money and time! I want racing again I miss it so much :( not time trials chase the rabbit that’s not racing I don’t want that. I’m losing my patience with GT6 on another subject GTA V has had more updates than GT6 and I’m back to playing it again.
Where is the feature where you could use your phone’s gps and use it to track your everyday driving routes to generate them in gt6? Didn’t they say that was coming too?
Yeah i remember that!… But i also remembered this is pd -.-
GT6 is a complex beast isn’t she… lol
The obvious politics of releasing cars that do not even exist, at crucial times in the calendar. Delivering on partnership features, to merge the real/virtual world, such as this GPS-V feature. If you get the impression that I am not 100% convinced that little of the updates are fan-focused, you’d be heading in the right direction.
Without the manufacturer’s there’d be no game. Does the power they must hold, or call it “mutual respect” – thwart the expansion of additional new partnerships from forming, or am I the only one to have had that thought cross there mind lol.
Sony/P.D must deliver on this new feature for them. Could this be actually viewed as a future limiting factor for our franchise I wonder. This feature has been given priority, due to the partnerships GT holds. Many of you long for features such as B-Spec, but it is not more important than delivering on this manufacturer specific feature. There are only so many hours in the day of course.
I think it’s now about facing facts. There isn’t time in the roadmap to deliver on every outstanding feature/improvement. Sorting GT6 won’t get GT7P out of the door on time, with enough enjoyable content included. Why “rush” to bring features in Sept for GT6, when the new game will arrive soon afterwards. Will we buy GT7P for £39.99 to drive at 8 global locations, with 150 cars – I doubt it. The reality is, that GT7P is now the priority, it has to be.
In the cold light of day, I doubt they’ll deliver in GT6 to any huge degree. It’s just a shame that fan’s who feel like they have been misled, obviously get left with a very bitter taste. Rightly so. It’s not their fault, or GTP’s, it’s Sony’s.
I think I’d probably be more excited to read that Sony admit that the franchise team is too small and that it has been expanded by a further 15%. Compared to getting my hopes up for content that may/may not make release any time soon. In my mind, the future of GT6 gets brighter with each passing month.
I say this, because it won’t be long before the Sony/P.D machine is pushing rolling tech-demo’s via the world stage at us for GT7P on PS4. Those world-wide game shows are just around the corner. Video’s here, high-res screenshots there. Unlimited factoid’s at every opportunity.
GT6 hasn’t sold well compared to GT5. Most of my friends have abandoned GT as a game. The quicker the debacle ends the better. I like GT6, but I should be absolutely in love with it, and that’s an impossible dream for me, and one that distracts me. I’m gutted my gaming mates have chosen to leave GT behind, I am unhappy that Sony/P.D allowed this to happen.
I’ve got my PS4 ready and waiting. I’ll be signing up for the game and its DLC at the first opportunity, just like many of you.
But I hope you all truly love the patch when it lands, and of course every new feature that has not been detailed yet.
I’m after something exciting, new, bold, and ground breaking for GT6. But, I think I now know that for this to be able to materialise – moving forward GT 6, 7, or 8 won’t get there by features, new partnership’s and patches to code alone. It’ll take a major overdue shift by Sony/P.D to help restore faith moving forward. It’ll take them to talk to their audience, listen to them and respect their differing views. It will involve them not biting the hand that feeds them, and entering into a new phase that equally puts fan’s on a level with partners. Kaz can do whatever he likes, but if he continues to rail-road his fans with stuff that 15% of people do not want, then this will potentially be bad for every last one of us.
If future sales decline further, they’ll lay people off. Dev times will increase, as they rescue the profit margin. The game will shrink, QA will be seriously hampered, and we’ll be looking at one title per console lol. Sony should not be giving any of you, any reason at all to think you have to go anywhere else to get your driving “fix”.
Sad to see GT franchise fans branded as fan-boy’s at gtplanet.
Simply because they also own a console not made by Sony, and play a game not developed by P.D. Your comments do not help the GTP community, seriously some people in here need to age, start shaving, and grow up. A fan-boy doesn’t own both devices lol. The truth is we all love driving.
Maybe if we all started an e-petition and sent it to P.D. telling them we want to secure the future of the franchise and what in our opinion would help it moving forwards, and what kind of stuff lets us (the fan’s) down, then maybe we could work together to help put GT right. We do not have a voice, a community such as this is not stopping our friends walking away from the franchise. You are kidding yourself, if you think Sony are listening properly. The Sony machine itself, internally, historically is broken at almost every level. This is 2014 lol.
If “alternatives” continue to make new improved ground via laser-scanning, more realistic texturing/colours, more content, more real-world scenario’s, and more realistic base settings per vehicle – it could easily find itself as THE STELLAR driving title next time out. It’s own “Prologue” excuse for a game is out now. When the proper full release lands, and goes head to head with GT7P, it’s not unlikely to be a very close call. It’s current version was a rushed port, with little content/depth. But that WILL change.
Good luck Sony, and GT fans world-wide. Let us pray…
Your not happy with some things ..o well that will be 15% of the whole community then..you make stuff up…at least its not as bad as 99.9% people that are pi**ed off by PD…as some claim…and let me see you think we should get a petition together to force PD to please 15% of you….no i don’t think we will…
for your info and others like you there is enough cars and tracks in the game and 99.9 % of us think the PD should carry on exactly down there own route as they always have and continue to bring innovation to the game.there has been some extraordinary futuristic tech announced this week that could only come about after years of collaboration and research and development efforts ..and if you cant see the advancements used here and how great this is going to be for GT and the car/racing industry…then your a gamer and you will only be satisfied with consumable DLC. there are plenty of developers out there who will happily satisfy your needs year in year out…Maybe….the thing you need to know is PDs priority and has been for some years now closing the gap between virtual and reality.they are the only Development company that are doing this. so leave them to it. no matter how long it takes….you will still get plenty of games to play.
O not selling as well as GT5 or loosing customers…rubbish..how do you know this stuff ..made up nonsense based on the way you feel.GT don’t loose customers ..they just stick around and complain even if they don’t like it.
PD are not in the realms of deadlines and profits and schedules …that’s something we try to impose on them.you must be able to see this after 15 years..they are inventors and innovators..leave them alone…and be i little thankful we have them.
@ w_a_i_n :
Good post, well said. I pretty much agree with everything you said. Pretty speechless as far as a response goes. Thought provoking read.
I will agree with wain
@biftizmo
Clearly anyone can pull statistics out of the blue, it would be nice to have an actual survey about what people think.
Sure, there are polls in the forum, but a well executed survey where the questions are well formulated and a broad base of users answer would actually have a lot of weight with PD as well. GTP has the userbase to go through with this and the active community could have a good impact.
And I couldn’t disagree more with your argument that they’ve focused on coming closer to reality. It’s the same game released again but with stars. Their broken promises just show how far they’ve drifted from reality.
I agree with the kid on youtube, from your comments on the forza side of GTPlanet talking down about GT, to all your negitive comments on the GT side of GTPlanet, it’s quite obvious. Kaz does’nt care to you hope GT7 flops to forza this and pcars that, to I’m going to delete GT off my HDD, it’s obvious what your doing. Can’t say the same for HuskyGT tho. Then like you say just now, fanboys aka “trolls” try to be funny, in which you try to be with every single negitive comment, you end with a :). My advice, change your name to pTokoForzaCARS.
GASP! Look at that, I have a spy who spies on me. That’s cute. Oh, don’t want to forget about to add this.
:) Bahaha!!!
Oh yea, I come to GTP to spy on Toko, really? Now that is funny, I come to GTPlanet to discuss and read about a game that I love and playing since I was 15 years old. It’s hard to not see you when your on every thread in GTP, so trust, not spying, your just not hard to miss. More advice Toko, try to treat GT like life, you got to try and be positive in negitive situations, nothing in life is perfect, not even Gran Turismo, as much as we all want GT to be perfect, it might never be, then again, what game is perfect.
Well. I’m not very hopeful, but I really want GT to become better and have those promised features added. The course maker is the only thing I’m dying to have, but it’s taking forever. Trust me, being negative is not my kinda style, I’m just mad and will say anything that comes to mind.
So yeah. I just want the course maker and other features that were promised to be added through updates. After that, Negative Toko will never be seen again, because I really don’t like the things I’ve said about GT.
Games like Burnout and Ridge Racer (my two favorite franchises) are dead. I don’t want GT to end up the same. :(
To see change, sometimes a “tough love” is necessary. Without rebuke, people will walk all over you and take advantage.
So just because people voice their negative feedback, doesn’t mean they don’t love the GT series. Actually, if we didn’t love the GT series, we probably wouldn’t be bothered to discuss so much about its current state. So it’s not all negative.
It just means change is necessary and it’s risen to this level because of the severity of the necessity for change is this imminent. Hopefully they’re taking note, it’d be pretty oblivious not to.
^ +1 SZRT Ice, well put. I still love the GT series, but as you said, it needs a change. :)
No doubt man. I get where you’re coming from. Over the years, I’ve witnessed you defend GT more than many, so I know you’re true stance on the matter. Your posts tend to be more on the “insightful” side of things. You’re not alone in your feelings man, many just don’t want to put up with the flaming that comes with saying anything remotely “anti-GT” half the time, like you have to be worshiping GT in order to discuss it.
Hahaha. Even I remember that myself. I used to defend GT like mad, but now I woken up to face reality to not defend it anymore. To be honest, I’m glad I stopped too. :)
And I agree. I’m sure those who are the “praise GT only” group, will soon wake up to face reality just as we did as well. Also, thank you for backing me up. I really appreciate it. ;D
Ok, I’m going to play devil’s advocate for a second, Let’s say they released all of the advertised features tomarrow, and when they did nothing worked right, instead of waiting till it’s ready and working properly. Then everybody would be on here saying it don’t work and it’s garbage and most of all, why did’nt they take the time to make it right and do the proper testing. Same goes with GT6. (to which I don’t understand because they had 3 years and GT6 still has bugs). I don’t think people fully understand what they are trying to pull off here, think about it, GPS data, game data, track data, car data, satellite data, and the list goes on and on. It’s ALOT to pull off, and they are the first to ever even try something like this, so I just think we should just wait it out and give them the chance to do they magic. It’s been four months, it’s not like it’s been a year. And I bet Dec 6, 2014, a year from launch, GT6 is going to be a whole different beast than what we have now, and all of you who doubted are going to look back and see your past comments and realize you was a little impatient.
The thing is, whether it works or not… No one really cares (Not literally, you obviously care as well as a few others, calm down). The complaints are primarily about the other announced features and the lack of info regarding them. If they simply spoke to us and told us what was up, people like Toko & myself would likely be on team “be patient, they announced it for [insert date here]”, there would be fewer complaints to be had, and people would be waiting in anticipation instead of utter chaos. Disaster averted!!!
Some “reassurance” goes along way, and is in many ways more important than the “when?” itself. If they released everything tomorrow without a word, much would be forgiven, but honestly, I see many (myself included) still being unable to fathom why PD didn’t at least keep us updated with its progress? Like % wise, where they’re coming along with certain features? Problems that may have arose, or features that were announced that inevitably had to be scrapped. Not daily, not weekly, heck, not even monthly, but if they said something bi-monthly it would go a long way and help in leaps and bounds with customer/user-base interest.
Most companies actually SEEK to fill users/fans in, to keep consumer interest peaked in their product/s. It’s like, WTH is PD’s PR team doing? Do they even have one??? Have they taken a look at GTP lately? One would think some damage control would be in order?…
Some butthurt kid on youtube is assuming me and HuskyGT are fanboys of Forza for being negative about GT… Hilarious…..
Well when you complain about GT then mention Forza in the next breath, it kinda gives people the impression that you’re a fanboy. Not calling you a fanboy myself, but thats the impression it can give.
Hmm. Interesting. :) Although I love both games, I just want GT to be improved because I’m bored of being Negative Toko, I hate to be negative. Also, fanboys can be so funny at times. lol.
I’ll still defend GT where it’s wrongly accused. But I won’t be oblivious to its shortcomings either. And yeah, it’s no prob man.
hi, im not sure GT and Forza can be compared…..forza is just a game where dreams are driven, where GT is a real driving simulator….forza may have your brain constantly tweeking things and making them look good, but in order to actually be fast you need constants, and thats where the bridge of GT and Forza seperate, if it was not for Kaz visioning his company PD creating something so REAL, then nissan would not be collaborating around the world finding the fastest drivers around each country, maybe gt7 won’t sell as much as gt6 and so on, but in the background that doesn’t mean that sony or nissan has not made money. Microsoft has money and so does sony, and they both make money for everyone else, just in their own individual ways. Fortunately PD has just created faster drivers, and maybe even safer drivers cause i just don’t get the same feeling of being in a car when i push the limits in forza. kaz once asked, how does the car feel…………thats what he puts into his creations, FEEL, forza looks pretty, but if you push yourself to beat vettels time then you can feel pretty damn good. (once you stop sweating from trying to keep up) lol
So people are on here venting spleen as they are not getting what they want or what was “Promised” wow…..
They have obviously had a delay in certain aspects of the timetable of updates. Regarding the release of the vision GT cars, They have no control over when they are released its down to the manufactures to give the go ahead for the release and not PD, at the end of the day if the Car manufacturer wants to pull the their car from the project (even though PD has a fully visualised and working model) they can.
Oh and the comments about the unfinished game… now that’s really made me laugh….. unfinished….. but your sat there playing it, a game that’s supposedly unfinished…..
In what way is it unfinished?
Unfortunately PD are behind in what they are releasing whether it be updates or DLC and over 75% of comments are people venting spleen and being down right offensive IMHO to PD. Sure you paid 60 $ £ Rand, Euros AUS $ or what ever…. so did everyone else If you dont like it then please go trade it in. No one is forcing you to stay on here.
Oh and to the person that decided to call my comment about an announcement of an update with in two weeks as pure speculation and not knowing what I was talking about ….well there you go ….. :)
As you were!
The game does not have all of its features, so therefore, it’s unfinished. I think you’re getting unfinished confused with unplayable.
So… Lets see if they deal with hackers…
Yup, what happened to the course creator?… PD, I guess, wants us to continue to enjoy it at ‘5’.
But that’s not what I believe is why so much of us, including myself, are pissed off about. We were lead on to believe that a larger course creator was coming. Instead we get an option to buy a Toyota. LOL… PD is the hooker that dashes with your cash!
Close your eyes kiddies. It doesn’t hurt so much when you don’t look ;)
@SZRT Ice yeah that would be good if you didn’t waste another word lol and not ALL the people on this site are GT fans that much is evident. I have a few issues with GT6 but I consider them nitpicking and it does not make me want to bin the game, far from it, I’m looking forward to the new features and I still feel I’m playing the greatest racing sim on console by far.
Just because one doesn’t kiss Kaz’s *** @ every waking opportunity, doesn’t mean we aren’t fans. I clearly stated…
“the majority of people that come to GTP are the greatest of fans! If we weren’t, we wouldn’t frequent here so regularly! There may be some who aren’t but most are.”
I never said ALL! You don’t want to nitpick at a game delivered to you by a company that have yet to deliver on their statements announced months prior to the games. A company that won’t even make a statement about these features, nut is openly revealing “next-gen this…” and “GPS that…” plans, but you can take the time to nitpick at my words? Arrogant fanboy pr**k. Get a hobby.
Don’t worry SZRT Ice. I’m sure Kollosson will wake up soon enough after GT7P that’ll probably not contain no improvements except graphics. Don’t let him get to you bud. :)
the best part about every GT update that announces a new feature, with 5 official updates, is the 250 forum pages filled with 50 undocumented changes, and 100 scratched out ones that were already there since release.
ok we have update on 4/7 now HOW MANY HOT FIXES will there be to fix the BROKE UPDATES we get. Everytime they release an update they always follow with hot fix why because they are SLOOPY PIGS they never QC their work.
WHERE’S MY TRACK MAKER???
PD, you can keep everything else, save bug fixes. I don’t want this foolish crap.
WHERE’S MY TRACK MAKER? ?
^This. At least it will be something to fiddle with while we await the club racing and community features that I refuse to just forget about.
This is a bunch of CRAP we don’t want something that’s useless to us gamers. What happen to course creator we want that not some BS data collector so you can race a REAL WORLD ghost come on KAZ get with the program oh I forgot KAZ nor PD DO NOT read this forum oh lets see do they even have their own GT forum NO why because they don’t care what we want all KAZ cares about is himself its his game that he dreamed about like porn. KAZ nor PD will ever listen to us. This GPS data BS is useless point blank we paid $60.00 for a BS DLC. What was added to GT6 a few cars & 2-3 new tracks come on that’s DLC oh ya plus NEW PHYSCIS still DLC. I probly will get banned for my comments because this site rides KAZ & PD nut sack.
I’ve seen Microsoft trends adapt faster than PD releases updates, I’ve almost stopped caring.
We want track editor….
All I want is the GPS course maker and shuffle race.
It is already April and almost none of the projected did not happen.
I hope they do bring shuffle racing back soon. online SUCKS without it!
Finally, This will give me an excuse to go thrashing my car around Bathurst, lol. That way when the police inevitably pull me over for speeding, I can say “But, Officer… I was trying to get better at a video game.”
All you people getting worked up just need to chill a bit. It’s just a game after all. I know it’s annoying when features and DLC aren’t released, but Kaz and PD work their hearts out trying to make this a great game. I just think everyone should show a bit more respect as we don’t actually going on at PD. What they’re doing at the moment isn’t right, but for all the work they’ve put in over the years, maybe the deserve it.
I don’t care about Kazunori’s past! I paid $60 for this incomplete game and I have the right to ask and demand for the missing features also I don’t have the patience to wait for what, a year, two years to get what I paid for. They literally sold to us a half baked game. If you go to a restaurant and they serve you a half cooked chicken, what do you do? Do you say, oh but they deserve some respect so I will eat it anyways… Ridiculous!
@Hypergolem – I completely agree with you. The game was sold and advertised under false pretenses.
I WANNA MAP OUT REAL ROADS GODDAMMITTTTT!! SCREW CIRCUITS, I WANNA DRIFT MY GT6 CARS AROUND REAL ROADS. ARRRRGGHHH!! I’D EVEN SPEND MORE MONEY TO DO IT. Although with gps and gyro sensors, I assume a smart phone fixed to the dash could do it, surely, capturing the road and the undulations in it. Scenery and surrounding landscape could be best matched using downloaded map data? Kaz is too much of a perfectionist. He’s rather not have a feature in the game if it was prone to shearing and looking rubbish. Yet GT6 still has badly rendered cars from GT4 in it and most of the sounds still suck. The sounds issue could be sorted by simply using the sound from bonnet view in place of the sound from road view, so the tranny whine and other noises are at least more audible, and the engine notes a bit deeper. the sounds are already there, theyre just available in the wrong view mode to what most of us whinging b–tards use. Quick and easy fix! Do it. Maybe as well as toggle through view modes, implement a toggle through sounds modes too, or have them set in the driving options drop down. You don’t have to re-sample 1000 cars to appease us.
Well thats got 99.9% of the GT community all excited – oh wait a minute, GPS Visualiser, not Course Maker?
Start again. Well thats got 0.01% of the GT community all excited. Oh wait a minute, what was that Mr Toyota/GTR owner? “You’re not interested because you’ve got a real one?” Fair enough.
Start again, third time lucky. Well thats got precisely 0% of the GT community excited.
Best we can hope for from this update is undocumented bug fixes based on information so far.
Well, PD seems like they are doing a fantastic job at bringing updates that literally 99% of the community doesn’t care for
You sure got your finger on the pulse mate, 99% of GT fans, you know this right? what a bunch of crap, this site does not represent the GT global community and its funny how most of the complainers here are new members? You forget, you have to come across as a GT fan for your comments to be taken seriously, trolling just tends to be ignored.
@ kollosson:
Are your eyes open?
Have you spoken to people anyone about their opinions on GT6?
Ask 10 people their opinion, 9 out of 10 if not all 10 will likely agree that GT6 is currently in a fail state and could care less for a gps visualizer above all else.
Is your head under a rock? Where else could you possibly go to assess overall fan satisfaction/dissatisfaction then GTPlanet? The self acknowledged #1 GT fan site? Psshh, get real.
@SZRT Ice dude you’re wrong. If you asked 10 gamers who have enjoyed the GT experience from the start most of them would comment how the game has moved on in leaps and bounds. They’d also most likely state how they love this current edition because of its crisp visuals and addictive feel.
However if you ask 10 stroppy kids who want the world on a stick yesterday then yeah, your comments make sense.
Okay, so I guess me, my friends, and the majority of this thread are “stroppy kids”? and you and a few others are “real gamers”?
Hmm, ignorance is bliss huh?
And @ Mr. Literal, whether it’s 99% or 73%, the majority has spoken, even the sales show the decline in interest in GT.
zzzzzz…..all I want is the course maker and the promised community features. I don’t care for this GPS data logger. I really hope there is more in the update then just this fluff.
Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy playing GT6 and do play at least 5 times a week online/offline.
But there are some key features missing to make this game complete, especially for the online side of things.
@SZRT Ice, what, every GT fan on the planet is on this site ? really, think you’re the one that needs to get real, even if PD had announced the new track in this upcoming update people like you would just switch to moaning about ‘ where’s B-Spec, PD can’t win, its very easy to find negatives. PD are obviously working very hard, think they deserve a bit more respect. We have no idea how long the GPS visualizer has been in the works, it was mentioned way back as I recall, it doesn’t mean that’s all they are focusing on by any means…
The way statistics work is this. They gather a group of people with common interests (say Coca Cola drinkers), gauge their interests on a few variables (diet vs regular) and gauge customer feedback accordingly.
Of course you can’t determine every fan in the entire world, that is a foolish proposition! But you can judge on average and the majority of people that come to GTP are the greatest of fans! If we weren’t, we wouldn’t frequent here so regularly! There may be some who aren’t but most are. And judging from those on my friends list and that I’ve found in open lobbies, the discontent with GT6 is borderline epidemic.
If they gave me tracks I wouldn’t complain at all. I’d be enamored. Ever since they announced last Januaruy (2013) that “the amount of tracks would be such that it would make a hat fall of my head”, I’ve been expecting tracks. It’s one of the selling points that attracted me. They stated there are enough tracks that they could release on to two tracks monthly. But so far, nothing trackside.
“People like me”? People like you are the reason PD are content with stringing us along because people like you sit back and take anything they give us and glorify them for it. PD has barely evolved in many key areas that many other games of the same genre has. Because they set the standard in 2-3 key areas (physics, graphics, car catalog, etc) they drag their feet in 20 others (interface, liveries, you know the rest…), knowing their fan base at current doesn’t really have any other options on PS3.
Right, GT has the best physics, imo it has always been great and is not what they need to focus on at current. We need new fresh content. GT has grown stale with more of the same and less of the new. Gps visualizers are creative, but not useful to the average gamer. Which is apparently not PD’s target audience any longer. They are making GT into more of a program/application/tool than a game. The fun factor and drive to play is in a large part GONE for so many. I can go on & on, but I refuse to waste another word explaining what is so apparent at a glance across the forums, boards, online, in-game lobbies, and articles like these. The current state of GT speaks for itself. I hope it doesn’t become what the NFS series has. GT is till my favorite game.
Yaaayyyy! Another feather for 1% of the players of the game. What the hell.. I can’t .. even. Smh.
Here’s another thought on this: How far will Seasonals go with this feature? !!!! I’m interested!
If were talking futuristic then, which PD are good at..i suggest they recorded and are recording any event there involved in..be it gt Academy. car development like Chevrolet C7 prototype..or host drivers from the driving world…on the day laps..life like AI can be generated from differences between styles and speeds.. .you or anyone famous that is…
maybe some live timings replicas of historical races,all based on available data ..you see..i think this is also a tool PD can learn more in time about how we do it…and if you own car with the right gadget…lot of cars do now..or you had a track day out for real…you could hold your own celebrity (if your any good) seasonal event…any time .. +++’s all round really..ha ha.
Ugh. Man, are there new arcade racers coming out this year alongside Forza Horizon 2?
Go play Forza 5, its a pretty good arcade racer, just not much content….
People who say Forza is arcade should never be taken seriously.
+1 Master Weasel.
Gt is the only game in history that isn’t a complete waste of time…time and effort gives you champions…GT gives you champions…so can never be classed as only a past time or waste of time.some of you just want more..but to some kids in the world they see it for what it is, an opportunity..so don’t shout about how bad it is, just think its a lot of different things to lots of different people..what ever it is. its great and pd are doing the right thing in so many ways.
we could be i little bit thankful for there achievements…because they make more people happier than don’t…this is also one of a few occasions were by it doesn’t exclude anybody…male female. old young, color or creed a level platform for all..this alone is worth the Nobel peace prize…
I couldn’t take your comment seriously after the first sentence. GT is a video game and thus can be waste of time just like any other video game. Not everyone playing cares about GT Academy.
Then u should of read on ..because now your basically just agreeing with me.
all games can be a waist of time…but only gt has the capability to not be as well…
You
You’re
Waste
ildd…sorry i’m a waste’er you’ve spotted.will do better….
More like Huge Disappointment 2.0. I’m getting pretty fed up with this. Monthly updates? Where are the Vision GT cars? And now we get this 99.9999% useless feature instead of anything anyone wants, ESPECIALLY the custom GPS course maker thing, which appears to be a fading memory even though it is more or less the reason I bought GT6.
So, like multi-monitor support, they’re shipping a feature that very few people can use. I mean, all I need to do is go buy a brand new Toyota…in JUNE…. to get any use out of this feature.
People in here who say this is the worst game ever and such are hillarious. But if am overstatement, especially when I can’t think of a game for PlayStation that produces more long term quality than the Gran Turismo franchise. Even Gran Turismo 6 was more than most game would ever become at its launch. I agree, there are problems here with PDs communication on connent and the seasonal TT’s could be more than they are and most updates have been very vanilla, but nobody go declaring their hatred for the game when it is still better than other games will be. My main complaint, in addition to the lack of communication, is that when the last update come out there were multiple features in it. Instead of waiting and releasing multiple things at once, release them as their ready. Then nobody can complain about lack of updates or work ethic, but they don’t do that and I can’t figure out for the life of me why.
I don’t think I’ll ever have a 5 day login bonus the way pd is going
I think the most I’ve gotten is the 2 day bonus in the past… month or so.
XD
Not even being funny, it’s been like since January for me. Occupying myself with GTAV to avoid daily frustrations with GT6.
Ooh, the old Data Logger is coming back too then I guess, sounds good. I’m also predicting BMW VGT to come.
So I take it, that everyone will want to beat any of Jordan’s laps once he does a few laps.
It’d be really cool if PD IMMEDIATELY jumps to get professional drivers on board with this – we could potentially have a feature where we race the ghosts of famous drivers from all over motorsport… And if this feature expands, and if PD gets Top Gear back, we could MAYBE go as far as competing against real-world celebrity ghost times…
…But now I’m dreaming and that’s a dangerous thing to do with PD these days…
If they don’t end up doing some sort of real-world professional/celebrity integration, then this feature isn’t all that useful to the average user, just like multi-monitor support.
I’d also like to see real race car drivers and good racers at Polyphony both “teaching” the bots how to race. They need to do something so that in a five lap race, the difference between first and last is more than a minute, which it often is. Or worse.
I want to see tighter fields to fight through in GT6. Then even smarter bots on GT7.
@ Tenacious:
That just about nails it.
Wrong post.
Anyone who has spent time in Japan, or worked with the Japanese won’t doubt that this will be the coolest thing all year to the developers. They LOVE techno gadgets. It IS very cool. But is it time better spent than developing better engine sounds?
I think you sound guys need to give it a rest for a bit. What GT6 really needs now is expansion. As it is, it’s an even smaller game than GT5.
We need the online structure brought into 21st Century capability. We need that Event Maker useful offline as well as online, with tools to make and support clubs and leagues, events, racing series, championships and even mini-seasons. We need Course Maker 2, a really good one, with a lot more creative control. We need Race Mod and a Livery Editor. And yes, sounds improved, better damage, more Standards converted to at least sub-Premium level, more tracks with time transitions and weather, car and track DLC, more paint options, carbon fiber, more mod and tuning options…
Well, there you go, Kaz, your itinerary for the next year. ;D
@ Tenacious:
That just about nails it. I can’t ask for much more than that.
They really need to fix all the bugs and glitches in this game which for me includes the sounds,it’s pointless to expand a game when there are still things that need to be fixed,all your doing is adding more bugs by adding more content which is pointless.
I’d accept game breaking bugs if PD even hinted at a quarter of the features Tenacios D mentioned (Gross exaggeration, spare me). Something’s better than nothing to me, in this case.
Praying for dynamic third person view and 360° around the car along with the slightly better damage on standard cars from gt5 when front and back bumpers when hanging about to fall doesn’t anyone remember that?
You’ll probably have to keep praying for that dynamic 360 angle, I don’t see that coming anytime in GT6, lol.
Map the camera to the right analog stick. I believe that is the resolution to your dilemma.
Kind of pointless, just cus nobody is going to be able use this, its a very limited demographic and even if you have a capable car you’re still going to need to get to one of GT6’s tracks to use it. I don’t know, it’s cool and all, I just wish they put a little something in the game to go with for everybody to use, just like a car or something.
I agree. This will be nothing more than taking up a bit of HDD space for most. I’d also like to thank Turn 10 for the 40 free cars on the weekend! Hint, hint.
Sick of the whining and trolling on here. I can understand people not being too bothered about the GPS stuff, I’m not bothered either. People are either trolling or haven’t read the bit in the article that says “at this time it’s not known what else will be included in the v1.06 update, but we’ll bring you more news as it arrives. In the meantime”. Maybe it is something some you should consider before you jump the gun and write this update off as being worthless.
People are also on about other stuff they want e.g track maker, new sounds, tracks & cars and etc. Yes I want these things as well, definitely more so than this GPS update. But hasn’t it ever occurred to any of you that these things are not ready yet? Just because the GPS is in the update doesn’t mean that they are not working on other updates, it just means that the GPS feature is ready and other features are not.
Also, developing the GPS feature does not take away from PDs ability to develop other features. For example; the engineers making the GPS feature are a completely separate bunch of people who are engineering the new sound engine which are a completely different group of people to those who are creating 3D assets for new tracks and cars. You guys complain as though PD are only capable of one things at a time, thats not how a games development studio functions. The reason why theres no mention of course creators or sound updates is because there not ready yet. wheras the gps feature was. Thats all there is too it.
I don’t want to be offensive, but some of you need to give these things some thought before you jump the gun and make silly claims. “PD dosen’t care about it’s fans” and stuff to this effect is utter tosh, the GPS update is obviously ready and sound updates, track creator updates are obviously not yet. It doesn’t mean PD doesn’t listen to you or doesn’t care, you guys need to understand that some of these features take a very long time to develop. It rather silly to expect these updates to be done within a mere 4 months of the games release.
Course creators, sound updates, the vision gt stuff, is all under development as we speak, it is just that they are not ready at this time. At the same time, PD will also be working on smaller and less important updates (e.g. GPS stuff) as well. It does not make sense to make an update that is ready to wait just because a more important update is not ready, it makes sense to launch updates as they become finished, that is why we are getting the GPS visualizer now and not sound and course creator stuff.
PD announced many of the things people are clamoring for, prior to GT6’s release. They made announcements that would incline many to believe we would have periodic and regular updates filled with in-game content, and people went out and purchased GT6 based solely off of these claims.
Things not being ready, all can understand. But announce that you have them in-mind and a release window. “Summer 2014, Early 2015”, something! They’re not fretting from announcements for May with the Senna content, and announcements for GT7P, or GPS visualizers and such… But what about the stuff we were told about mid to late 2013???
Last year we were told about features that haven’t even been spoken of lately. It’s like they want us to forget about those features that made us run out & get GT6 or something… All I ask for is an eta. A real one with a kept release date. Can’t speak for anyone else.
I don’t care what anyone else thinks. I find this completely awesome. I’m constantly trying to better lap times. Totally gonna love this.
And I agree jhw93 I say since we have this available, let’s use it. :)
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No game improvement. Forget it Kaz I want a better game! Not something that’ll probably never use.
I will reserve judgement until I get my hands on this update. I expect to be pleasantly surprised.
Comments section for each news article has become the new GT6 Epic Whining and Crying Thread. One of the features that was promised to be included in a later update gets added, “Waaah, where’s B-Spec, Course Maker, etc….” Even if the next update after this includes a feature like Course Maker, a majority of the comments will just be more complaining about a feature that hasn’t been included in the game yet.
Honestly, I couldn’t agree more. Yes, it is a REaLLY, REALLY big deal to have this added. The thing to remember is that PD RARELY puts out ONLY one thing in an update at a time! Who knows, we may have a track generator being powered by this (at least eventually). We may have some community features.
WHO STINKING KNOWS!!!!??
At least it’s blatantly obvious they ARE working! I’m SUPER excited about that! Let’s see what else arrives!
Sick of the whining and trolling on here. I can understand people not being too bothered about the GPS stuff, I’m not bothered either. People are either trolling or haven’t read the bit in the article that says “at this time it’s not known what else will be included in the v1.06 update, but we’ll bring you more news as it arrives. In the meantime”. Maybe it is something some you should consider before you jump the gun and write this update off as being worthless.
People are also on about other stuff they want e.g track maker, new sounds, tracks & cars and etc. Yes I want these things as well, definitely more so than this GPS update. But hasn’t it ever occurred to any of you that these things are not ready yet? Just because the GPS is in the update doesn’t mean that they are not working on other updates, it just means that the GPS feature is ready and other features are not.
Also, developing the GPS feature does not take away from PDs ability to develop other features. For example; the engineers making the GPS feature are a completely separate bunch of people who are engineering the new sound engine which are a completely different group of people to those who are creating 3D assets for new tracks and cars. You guys complain as though PD are only capable of one things at a time, thats not how a games development studio functions. The reason why theres no mention of course creators or sound updates is because there not ready yet. wheras the gps feature was. Thats all there is too it.
I don’t want to be offensive, but some of you need to give these things some thought before you jump the gun and make silly claims. “PD dosen’t care about it’s fans” and stuff to this effect is utter tosh, the GPS update is obviously ready and sound updates, track creator updates are obviously not yet. It doesn’t mean PD doesn’t listen to you or doesn’t care, you guys need to understand that some of these features take a very long time to develop. It rather silly to expect these updates to be done within a mere 4 months of the games release.
Course creators, sound updates, the vision gt stuff, is all under development as we speak, it is just that they are not ready at this time. At the same time, PD will also be working on smaller and less important updates (e.g. GPS stuff) as well. It does not make sense to make an update that is ready to wait just because a more important update is not ready, it makes sense to launch updates as they become finished, that is why we are getting the GPS visualizer now and not sound and course creator stuff.
Well said. Some people will never be happy. what’s the guarantee that when new stuff comes out that they’re even going to like. They’re already unsatisfied with the massive amounts of content gt6 has now.
seriously, what’s more important? what are most users waiting for? Course maker or this GPS thing?
Massive amount of content??? Where????
Yay! I get to thread that this article links to and find it locked–WooHoo! Really, this update shows that PD hasn’t “given up” as so many are inclined to believe. I, for one, find it interesting that it’s Toyota’s efforts in this field that PD have latched onto when the lines between Kaz/PD/GT/GTAcademy and Nissan are far from blurry. Was Nissan not doing anything similar with the GT-R or was any development just not to the point of being able to implement?
Anyway, I’m really hoping 1.06 brings sweeping additions and improvements; not so much because I want to experience them, but because it will get people to shut up until they find something else to whine about. Thanks again for getting the dang thread closed.
the “relevant thread” is closed…
Well, that was long lived.
Why all the complaining?! This is something that has been in development for years now and we should be happy it’s now finally being integrated into the game. Yes there are other features/fixes the majority of us would prefer first but we don’t know what else may be in this update and there could possibly be some fixes etc included.
I would say they have concentrated on this to make sure they had it ready ahead of the launch of the Sports Drive Logger and now that the data logger is done they should be able to put more resources into the other features to complete them too.
At least, if data logger will be included in 1.06, we’ll be able to measure 0-60, 0-100, 402 and 1000 meters, manualy though…
What a bad joke…so many things were promised, nothing is here jet. This update affects a very small number of players who will use this feature. What about the things which would improve the game for all of us? I am frustrated about this game, first and last preorder I have ever done. Thank you pd…
Don’t worry, be happy! Lol
Zahara.
Bug fixes.
B-Spec.
+1
ZAHARA!!! +100 +100 +100
I grinders away for hours back in February (when it was suppose to be released) so I’d have a new car to break in on the track. My Miura is still waiting!
“Hot on the heels of March’s update” .. which attempted to undo the previous bugs caused by the update before it which was trying to correct bugs caused by the one before that..
Lmao
Well.., we may not be seeing what the majority wants in this title regarding (over hyped features that were supposed to follow), we can clearly say Kaz has answered a question that has puzzled many auto fans for years. We now know what a Hoover sounds like with straight pipes and a turbo charger ;-)
lol
I got titanium tubes made for my vacuum cleaner so it would sound just like GT! ;)
All very good, and looks nice, thankyou very much. But, still no full endurance races.
Hey pd instead of adding this first you should concentrate on fixing this game.
kazunori yamauchi is n doos.
Nice to see that PD have their priorities straight, NOT! PD are turning the Gran Turismo series into some kind of tech demo platform & running it into the ground as a result, when all that most of of want is a well thought out & designed racing game. Roll on Project Cars!
PD can keep this crap. Why do they give crap no1 wants and ignore the stuff we want? Kaz should stop dreaming about becoming a race driver and start doing the stuff he promised all the ppl who paid for his game.
Whats the point in this considering that even if you drove the same car in game that was used to create the data the in game physics wouldnt even accurately recreate the same lap with the exact same throttle/brake/steering inputs? All this is, is a way for kaz to have neat little in game replays of him driving his own car. Buying gt has become nothing more than paying him to make toys for himself.
Agreed about the physics. I said the same thing a few posts down.
Yes it certainly looks like Kaz is building the game HE wants and to hell with what the rest of us think. Thanks a lot Kaz. Money talks.
They should put an actual drag racing mode in the game like forza instead of this BS
I want bikes
This is going to be interesting, data logger and GPS visualizer. Honestly I don’t see any complaints about this and don’t see why people are complaining.
Because 99.9% of users will have absolutely zero use for it and will likely never even see a ghost based on it in action. All this while still waiting on a course creater, basic community features and engines that dont sound like a hoover bagless.
Exactly what swg said.
+1 swg
Hmm it seems that whatever PD is trying to do it will not satisfy the community. You might be right about the things you’ve mentioned but, remember PD is still small in numbers in the amount of developers and that they’re working on a PS3 ( current gen ) console and not a PC ;)
Itsall just negative it will stop when other games flop and they give up we continue to get great content
now VR that’s also where this tech will be most use full… Transporting your digital laps around the world at any time for anyone to race.is superb technology..this as well as with real time track conditions makes for the best racing simulator of all time.
What can you learn from watching an in game replay of your real world track time in GT6? Where you’re losing seconds and how to improve your time IRL? Maybe, to some degree. But will wind resistance, hp, track temp, air pressure, tire grip/wear, evolving track changes, car & driver weight, plus danger factor all equate into those times as they do in real life. No. They can be close, but perfect, they will not be. To me, in the end, a real world gps replay is no better than an in-game one to me. Few will be able to make sensible use of it and take advantage of its miniscule amount of possible applications at current unless they own/rent the vehicles & live close enough to the tracks.
Does it belong in GT6? Yes. Do we all need it? No. I see this being useful for VR as well. But to my understanding, that is coming to the PS4 in Project Morpheus, not the PS3 which makes this further more currently unnecessary to most GT6 players. It will be great in VR on GT7/GT7P no doubt, but as of now, that concept is out of reach in GT6.
*Yawn* Looks like Kaz just, doesn’t care about his fans anymore. Truth hurts, I know. If only GT7 could flop, Kaz wouldn’t be doing this crap. Enough of this.
Why do PD hate thier fans so much? I don’t understand?
Nope. PD only cares about showing off their technologies for marketing and advertising purposes only. That’s what GT has come to be these days. I really hope GT7 changes back to what GT used to be. To this point, I don’t even want to buy a PS4. That will depend on how GT7 ends up being.
And the more I play Forza 3, the more fun I have, despite the awful physics (still better than NFS and other games). This thing even has a clutch! I thought it would be impossible to drive with a clutch in a controller, but it’s easy after a few laps. This is the most awesome thing I’ve ever tried in a racing game so far.
I just wish GT was a game. I’m not liking what it has become…
Oh also, when you try out FM4, it’ll have better physics than FM3. However, the FR cars oversteers way to easily to the point it becomes annoying. :\ But still, it’s a big improvement over FM3. :)
I’ve noticed that FR cars have a really strong tendency to oversteer. It’s almost like driving on soap. So far it only makes the racing a bit uncomfortable without assists. I hope it doesn’t become too annoying in the more advanced events.
Watch out the P1 cars. Ugh those cars are a pain. x_x
And another reason to keep playing Flopza 3. Keep up with it, PD.
Quite literally could not care less, this doesn’t effect anyone without the 86GT – which at a guess is most people who play this game. I’m not going to go drop 50k on a car for a feature in a video game when they don’t even include any tracks from my country, leave alone one accessible to me.
Toyota 86GT owners merely create the content with their laps. EVERYONE who has GT6 can use that content, if shared. You aren’t limited only to downloading your own lap times from your own car to your own game.
But what purpose does that serve? it is my understanding and opinion that this is only useful to analyse your own lap telemetry to pick out improvements.
Analysing other people’s laps or watching their lines to improve your own in the game. As a basis for real vs. GT6 competitions like the GT5 Coulthard/Top Gear challenge. Live racing against GT Academy graduates at Silverstone, Spa, Nurburgring, Le Mans – live racing against Kazunori in the N24… It could even be used to enhance AI behaviour with sufficient data from sufficient cars in a race.
The CAN technology that generates the data has nothing to do with Gran Turismo – and could conceivably be retrofitted to any vehicle with CANbus, it’s just Toyota are the first people to offer it as a commercial product with their vehicle. GPS Visualiser is merely a way to view that data – and everyone with GT6 can do this, whether they own a specific Toyota and visit specific tracks or not.
Aren’t we able to download in-game ghosts from other players anyway? How different that is? It’s not like it’ll make a big difference if it’s a real car ghost or a in-game car ghost. And when I say difference, I mean what you’re doing, which is racing against a ghost. Big deal.
So yeah, this feature is pretty much pointless and just a waste for the majority of GT players.
So you stopped reading at “other people’s laps” then?
No, I read it all. I just don’t see how this could be applied to A.I cars at all. It sounds like a nice idea, but PD simply won’t do it.
The rest is all techno mumbo jumbo that doesn’t add any quality content to the game, or that the average GT player will really put to use.
Where are the DLC packs, tracks, Track Creator, B-Spec, Community Features, bug fixes, new sounds? That’s what I think most GT players would really appreciate.
Well that’s fair enough and I can appreciate the use to other people, I just personally don’t see the point.
Why watch someone’s real world lap, where they’re full of adrenaline and more concerned about wrecking when I could watch ingame laps where people aren’t afraid to crash and will actually push their car to the limit, unlike I suspect – most of the laps that will be “Shared” using this system.
I’d probably be interested if there was at least one NZ track in the game, but there isn’t. So I’m not.
I don’t know, I can see that it could be very useful to some people but I just don’t personally find it a very useful feature outside of analysing your own laps to help improve your times in the real world – that’s just how I see the system.
It’s not “techno mumbo jumbo”. The principles are pretty basic – the car records where it is and what the driver is doing, the hardware turns that into a proprietary data format, GT6 can read that format and turn it into a replay.
How can it be used to improve AI behaviour? Well, imagine if you had lots of cars in a race driven by professional drivers all with the hardware on board. What could you do with the data of them racing against each other showing their lines and approach to other cars on the track around them? Could you use it as a basis for how AI drivers take lines when there’s other cars around?
I don’t know where you’re getting the idea that most GT6 players can’t or won’t ever use it. Data Logger alone allows you to look at your own best laps to see where you are losing time. Racing against real drivers’ ghosts could form the basis of events and competitions in the Seasonal Events section – like I already said – and in fact we all already have the opportunity of driving against a real driver’s ghost, albeit one from within the game itself, in the final of the Red Bull X Challenge.
I agree 100% UrieHusky
I can’t deny this is interesting technology, but it has no place in a racing game like GT. This would be useful outside the gaming community for people who actually race cars in real life and could be applied to real driving simulators; something that GT isn’t.
PD has completely lost their focus. I think they should hire a second team so the current team make a simulator outside the console world where they can apply all this crap for people who care about this crap, and the new team (preferably outside Japan) can focus on making an actual Gran Turismo game that regains the title of the best console car game there is.
And I totally understand what you say, Famine. The question is: Will PD make it possible for us to implement such feature? Can they make it possible to replace the A.I cars with real people’s laps, or at least add new offline events with real people?
Also; I may not understand right, but this is only applicable with the Toyota 86. So basically we will be limited to use this car, or cars that are close to the 86 performance wise.
So far this only seems like a pretty nice feature, but with very limited use in-game.
No.
Toyota are the first company to bring the feature to their cars. We already covered another manufacturer doing it in the article immediately preceding this one – http://www.gtplanet.net/nissan-connect-nismo-plus-gran-turismo/
GPS Visualiser isn’t anything to do with the GT86 or Toyota or even Nissan. It’s a piece of software that analyses the data collected by GPS Data Logging systems using CANbus on any car for which it is implemented.
The limits for it in GT6 are only what you can imagine you can do with real telemetry from real cars at real circuits. If you can only imagine as far as “watching a Toyota GT86 lap of Tsukuba on your game”, you won’t find it very useful – but I’ve already explained a whole bunch of other possibilities, so there’s no real excuse for still having that mindset.
Whether it’s racing a real world lap of a better racer, or a simulated lap of a better racer, the results are the same for a casual GT racer/gamer.
Using myself as an example, I first set a ghost lap as a reference point, then I focus on shaving seconds off bit by bit lap by lap until I can’t figure what I can possibly do better. Then, I’ll load up the fastest lap times of the top 5 on the leader boards and figure out some variables that I can apply to my own racing. Inevitably, I gold, place higher than a fair amount of my peers, and am satisfied with my time enough to move on.
I aim for #1 but I am a controller racer and likely could time but so high anyways. So I remain content with my abilities as such, and stick more to racing for entertainment than second shaving. I am prone to kick the tail out and sliding at times. Right, it’s not proper, & it doesn’t give the fastest lap times, but it’s fun. But chasing magical unicorn ghost times is not fun… It’s droll & laborious.
Gt is the only game in history that isn’t a complete waste of time…time and effort gives you champions…GT gives you champions…so can never be classed as only a past time or waste of time.some of you just want more..but to some kids in the world they see it for what it is, an opportunity..so don’t shout about how bad it is, just think its a lot of different things to lots of different people..what ever it is. its great and pd are doing the right thing in so many ways.
we could be i little bit thankful for there achievements…because they make more people happier than don’t…this is also one of a few occasions were by it doesn’t exclude anybody…male female. old young, color or creed a level platform for all..this alone is worth the Nobel peace prize…
0.39 didn’t know Fiji had a go kart track.
Is this thing can be added to AI cars? If not then this is very useless feature for me. Racing with ghosts is boring. Still waiting for improved sounds, better community, b-spec and more promised things.
To have this feature in a video game is incredible and as usual all of the shills pile in with negative comments, this just makes all other so called driving sims pale into insignificance and also proves just how close to perfect the in game tracks actually are. How many amazing features can one driving sim have? and still more to come…Forza 5 is starting to look a bit silly now don’t you think…
All that has no bearing when the games physics aren’t even close to representing real driving.
I would say it’s pretty damn close looking at the video JerseyDriverSS. If what you say is true it wouldn’t look almost exactly the same. I’m not talking about the track, rather the cars movements, although the game’s track plays an important part in replicating where the car would go.
@JerseyDriverSS – You gotta remember, Forza is on a Next Gen console while GT6 is still on the PS3!
Sure, GT6 is missing a few things, I won’t say it’s not, but when you take the whole Next Gen thing into consideration, PD aren’t doing that bad…
I’m talking about the cars driving physics and not the tracks details. As far as the video, sure they could look identical and still the driving of the car on GT is no where near representing to driving a car in real life. Gt in my opinion is at the bottom of the barrell in the physics department (In my opinion) others opinions will vary. And as for the forza argument, not that fm4 was that great either, but in my opinion replicated a more realistic driving behavior then any GT game. I say this with no bias i’m after the most realistic driving experience i can short of getting out on thunderbolt or lightning track at NJMP in my own car, or maybe PC gaming has spoiled me now. I dont know, but long story short is GT’s physics aren’t very good.
I have golded everything in GT6, %100, and…..have not touched the game for more than a month now. And I am not the only one by far.
Guess what… incredibly worthless! I have no words… i think it’s all a big joke, really stupid and awkward; maybe they are trying to convince us to quit buying GT; for what about me, well, mission accomplished! Good work PD. :(
+1
+1
At least they’re releasing promised features. It shows they still care for the game and are working on it.
At this rate we may end up with a decent game by 2015. Then the servers will be switched off because GT7P will take over. Sick of waiting around for years and years and years while PD fumble about. Enough is enough.
Because the PD continues to develop updates uninteresting? Gran Turismo 6 is full of bugs, there are many problems in online and offline modes.
The hate for this game continues to increase.
I was able to play in all Gran Turismo, from first to last, including the beautiful Tourist Trophy. My conclusion? GT5 was saved in extremis, but GT6 is really horrible! I purchased a 15th Anniversary Edition, and I was really disappointed. 4 months of waiting! Kazu, it’s fun to anger the fans? You’re no longer the person I have always respected. GT6 is a product without a soul! This is the last GT. For the PS4 I chose other simulators. Goodbye Kaz.
same here… Assetto Corsa, RaceRoom, rFactor2, Game Stock Car 2013..there are plenty of really great sims
Seems all PD employees are on holiday enjoying money they earned by selling BETA GT6!
an other useless update….
First fix the bugs, then add the others Vision GT, and late add the new features!
GT6 more and more disappointing!
This is the biggest p… of s… from pd ever!
Give us the promised things not this useless garbage!
Almost forgot
F… Y.. pd!
Wow all this time and this is all they’re releasing? Where the heck are some DLC cars and tracks?
I’m selling this game. Thanks PD. You’ve lost a customer.
Not to mention, I can’t even use this feature as my car doesn’t have GPS and I don’t use a smartphone.
Put out a useful DLC.
did you bother to read “At this time it’s not known what else will be included in the v1.06 update, but we’ll bring you more news as it arrives. In the meantime, check the relevant thread in the GTPlanet forums for more information and discussion”. Idiot
You’re selling the game, so they lost a customer. Who do you think buys the game, the bin men or something? Oh wait, another customer buys it so the gain a customer. Clever how it works, isn’t it?
Clever is not a word for you einstein, they have lost more than one customer, If a lot of people buy second hand, PD receive 0 in the way of money!
But you only get a second hand game if people first buy it firsthand. Anyway, I do not want to argue with someone over a petty thing like this, especially with someone who, judging by previous comments, has a life which solely revolves around a video game. Me finished.
The ignorance is astonishing.
+1 Agent_47
The arrogance of some of you people is disgusting. It borders on bullying. I’m glad I don’t play GT any more if it’s full of creatures like you lot. So he wants to sell his copy. Was it REALLY necessary to start attacking him with your “facts” about customers? You all make me sick
This site is pathetic. Don’t bother replying to me because I won’t see it. Bye bye GT Planet!!! :D
Arrogant ********s
Get ready for the new Seasonals, where you have to follow the GPS indicators and stay on course in 1:40 for the gold!
Best time will be 0:53s and that person used no GPS, and hardware firewall nethack to slow down the server time at Sony.
joke aside, I do wish for PD to do one important thing with this feature, and that is to REPLACE all AI scripts, with pro ghosts, and give us a whole new carreer mode. Then I can start to like GT6, and not have to feel like I left my heart out on the Nur in GT5.
Hello there, two things:
1. I am already using OBD2 logging with my phone, it would be nice if an Android/iPhone application was made for this GPS Visualiser, or even specifications of the data format for PS3, so we could do the conversion (export),
2. For meaningful comparisons with some real drive in GT6, GT6 itself would have to became a bit more realistic simulator in the first place (GT6 most important feature over GT5 for me is much better tyre/physics, but of course there’s still something to improve), and on top of that, what about the weather, track temperature, tyres used, fuel onboard, traffic…
But anyway, it’s nice to see GT6 is not abandoned by Polyphony. Have a nice ride. :-)
Well this is interesting.
Oh joy, the most useless new feature is the first one they’re finally adding *yawwwwwwwwn* the game will remain in its case where it’s been for months. I’d love to know the percentage of people who own the game and are able to use this……
.005%
So sick of PD at this point.
Well this is really frustrating.. I think the way forward with this series is to buy games 2 years after they come out. Weird but true.
This update better be good…
I just hope that p-cars will be released in november. PD what you do lately…….bul…..
really pd stop trolling us and give us real features…
TRACK MAKER!!!!
This is b.s.
WHERE’S MY TRACK MAKER?!?!
would be nice if you fix not only the bugs but get rid of the hack cars popping
up in the game
No point in saying the same things over and over… Kudos to the people who will actually get a chance to make use of this. Awaiting further details of 1.06. The discontent with GT6 speaks for itself. Hopefully, this is just one step of many to come. We need more.
I’m glad that we are getting something the we were promised to have finally BUT!!!!!!!! It has been over TWO F*&%*@ MONTHS since we have seen anything remotely as new content. Kaz you PROMISED us that there would me new content every month. Well Lets see hmmmm I don’t see any new cars since JANUARY. And only a concept of a new track two months ago and was suppose be had it in February. Kaz to make this right you need in this next update release at least 5 new cars two new tracks and this gps crap that nobody is ever going to use and FIX THE BLOODY BUGS IN THE GAME!!!! Then we might just forget you screwed us with your promises.
Pointless. How many people will possibly be able to use this at all? Between needing the hardware, a compatible car, not to mention access and time to visit one of the tracks in GT6 maybe 0.001% of GT6 players can use this? And those who would are probably serious racers and already have other, better equipment/options/software to do similar things. What a waste. If you’re going to mess with GPS integration I thought there was supposed to be a mobile app that you could run during your daily commute and turn it into a custom track to drive in GT6. What happened to that? At least it would be interesting and usable by the entire population of gamers.
Or even better how about the new track we were promised in February, or some more of the Vision Gran Turismo cars. The game’s been out 4 months and we still only have the AMG car? At this rate GT7 or 8 will be out before all the Vision cars are available.
You don’t have to have any of those things. You can import anyone’s replay data into the game.
Imagine the replay data from professional drivers during a race – like the GT Academy team at Silverstone, Spa or the N24 – being used for an online competition and you’re pretty close to the possibilities.
@ Famine.
I’d imagine it would be as exciting as racing the people @ the top of the leaderboards of the weekly seasonals and GTAcademy trials. Good fun to the skilled, or if that’s your thing, but to others who don’t play GT for that purpose, it falls short. Not saying it won’t be useful. But I’m almost certain, real life times won’t be as fast as an equally skilled drivers simulated time since the sense of danger is absent.
What would be awesome to me, is if they came up with a projector setup that projected your lap time from Gran Turismo and made a holographic replica for you to chase in real life. That’d seem highly more useful to me. You could chase your ghost in any car, anyone with a usb save of their GT replay could take it to the track inclining more people to try it out, and it would probably do better at making people faster than the other way around… (big probably).
But as it stands, we’re still going to looking at an in game ghost of a really fast racer. Some will pat themselves on the back for beating a real life lap time on a simulator, but the real deal is getting behind the wheel of the real thing and doing it.
What I can possibly see happening, is certain racing schools, and track day locations that let you rent out track time in their vehicles, making use of this tech by having the said vehicles with this tech at their locations to rent out to customers and allowing more to try it out this way. They usually have a co-driver in the car with you, and rarely allow you to fully “push” the car, but it still is a fun experience. I’d imagine these companies would make BANK if they pushed and advertised this feature proper. It would trend from there.
Anywho, I just want to enjoy simpler pleasures at the moment. Zahara, More VGT’s, the track creator, more real world & fantasy tracks, and more car DLC would be fine with me. Bring us the aforementioned community features, including the in-game clubs, car/parts gifting (NO DAILY LIMITS please), our in-game home pages, the “forums”?, and fix online and GT6 will be gold. That should hold me off until GT7 is released, finally including a vinyl/livery editor.
Come on PD! You can do it!
@SZRT….nonsense …you admit you don’t really want to play the game..more you only want stuff…and your idea of a “real ghost” nonsense is utter rubbish and impossible to do..but if its impossible, then this GT6 Tech makes it 50% less impossible.. don’t enter into this kind of rubbish..its just negative it will stop when other games flop and they give up we continue to get great content
now VR that’s also where this tech will be most use full… Transporting your digital laps around the world at any time for anyone to race.is superb technology..this as well as with real time track conditions makes for the best racing simulator of all time.
@ biftizmo
Opinion. I don’t just want “stuff”, I want “the promised features they advertised which inclined me to buy Gran Turismo 6 in the first place”. The idea isn’t utter nonsense. Would it be very expensive with todays tech? Yes. Possibly not even possible at current, but I do agree this is a step in that direction. There would be alot more involved to make it possible, but regardless, I was also talking about it from both a usefulness and entertainment perspective.
Maybe you misread what I said, but the tech in this article would be useful at racing schools and places like Exotics Racing that allow people to rent out vehicles for track sessions. They could buy the said vehicles with the gps equipment installed and allow people to rent them and save their gps data for a fee. It would certainly be less expensive than buying the car itself just fro the said purpose. But I’m not going back into it if you can’t determine the suggested benefits from something like this being made available to the public, than that’s your deal.
In the end however, what can you learn from watching an in game replay of your real world track time in GT6? Where you’re losing seconds and how to improve your time? Maybe, to some degree. But will wind resistance, hp, track temp, air pressure, tire grip/wear, evolving track changes, car & driver weight, plus danger factor all equate into those times as they do in real life. No. They can be close, but perfect, they will not be. To me, in the end, a real world gps replay is no better than an in-game one to me. Few will be able to make sensible use of it and take advantage of its miniscule amount of possible applications at current.
Does it belong in GT6? Yes. Do we all need it? No. I’m just asking for more. I will enter into whatever “kind of rubbish” I choose. One man’s “rubbish” is the next man’s “treasure”. I was not being completely negative, but speaking on what I feel would be positive. My opinions hold just as much weight as yours. I too see this being useful for VR as well. But to my understanding, that is coming to the PS4 in Project Morpheus, not the PS3 which makes this further more currently uneeded on a large scale in GT6. It will be great in VR on GT7/GT7P no doubt, but as of now, that concept is out of reach on GT6.
Serioulsy, who gives a f… about GPS?? there are many issues to fix first in this game, the main one being to make this game interesting… bring some new tracks, cars and ACTION!!!! One month, and if nothing new comes along, it’s going into my retailer’s used games rack…
I wish people like you would just quit playing already. The ACTION!!!! comes from two or more well matched and not newb drivers having something we call a race.
Please, do those of us who love this game flaws and all a favor and go sell your copy today.
WHERE’S MY TRACK MAKER?!?!
Fix tire bug first!
I agree ;)
YAY i can use this with my 318!!… NOT!, plus i don’t believe that its coming on the 7th pure BS
I don’t see what’s “PURE BS” about a date… some people will really value this.
big ol MEH
Booooring! Useless! Give us the game features, not this real life meets the virtual world nonsense!
Awesome! Cant Wait!
For what? I presume you must have a compatible car and access to the real life versions of GT6’s race tracks in order to be excited by this.
really pd stop trolling us and give us real features…
Oh no not the GPS Visualiser, but v.1.06. Just curious to see what’s changed. They may even surprise us with that one track that was mentioned earlier this year but who knows…
See people be like this guy! He doesn’t give a $hit about this GPS BS and instead looking at the fact there’s an actual update coming and wants to know what else is in it! I could care less about this too but I’m just like this guy… all I want is course maker and b spec and I’d be happy…