After several leaks, Logitech have officially announced their return to the sim-racing hardware market with the G29 and G920 steering wheels. The two models are roughly identical, though the G29 is compatible with both the PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 4, while the G920 is compatible with the Xbox One and does not include the same red adjustable dial. Both models will also be compatible with the PC.
As inferred from the most recent Amazon leak, the wheels feature the same internal hardware mechanisms used in the G27, including helical gears and a dual-motor force feedback system. The rim itself is made of hand-stitched leather, and includes the shift meter introduced on the G27. The brake pedal also features progressive resistance.
The G29 model will be available in July, with the G920 releasing in October. Both will be priced at £299, €399, or $399 USD. A six-speed gated shifter, which appears similar to the one sold with the G27, will now be sold separately for 59.99 EUR and USD.
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Surely Sony’s paranoia over this supposed security chip show the lack of confidence the have with their own PSN security staff, I’d love to see a hacker bring down the PSN with a steering wheel…maybe it’s time Sony hire some staff from Apple and on that note imagine if every I-phone user had to buy ” Chipped ” headphones?
Apples success has come from airtight security at source and the insane idea that sony have that an interface can bring own their servers I find ridiculous, And besides any hacker will simply bypass this chip anyway am I wrong?
Look! It’s being used to test Froza 6!
http://carstories.kinja.com/we-played-forza-6-before-anyone-else-1711432684
I know forza isn’t a real driving simulator but at least it shows it works =D
So 475? Just to have ps4 compatibility? Ouch. And everyone better forget about ps4 support for the g27. Not gonna happen. Cause all this seems as is a g27 with ps4 support, with a few minor tweeks. Not that that would really be a BAD thing, but at just under 500? I dont know man. I was about to bite the bullet on a t500 when i heard the g29 rumors. Now im just not sure…
I want one wheel for ps3, ps4 and pc. But everyone should know that theres no reason to add support to the g27 for ps4, when they are sellin just that for double the price. If theres only gonna be a $100 difference between the g27 and t500, may just got with the t500 at that point.
Oh and i dont see a point in getting a wheel without a shifter or functional clutch pedal. Not any wheel close to 100 bucks anyway, let alone 500.
Well, the price does sound high for a Logitech wheel; it looks to me like Logitech has chosen the highest price point they can which still undercuts the competition? For example, the T300 is $399 and amazon, with a two pedal cluster, and the shifter is $150. The Logitech wheel looks to get you the three-pedal set at the same base price, plus a shifter at $75. So depending on what you want, that may be the way to go. I’ve liked my Logitech wheels a lot. Currently have a T500 and yes, it is a more capable wheel in many ways, but the Logitech stuff certainly won’t disappoint. It’s too bad they have priced them so high, but unfortunately companies generally price things as “what the market will bear.”
Yeah… thanks. Less for more. I guess that could have been expected. Great business model, pass on the cost of the company’s poor management to the end user.
$399 Logitech are you guys smoking that good stuff? Unless this thing has brushless motors and solid heavy duty internals that prices sans the shifter is absurd. The wheel looks great but the housing looks admittedly exactly like the G25/27 with no changes at all in it’s outward appearance. The pedals look exactly the same as the G25 now with screw caps and all black finish. Will the clutch feel different from the brake(which should have more resistance). Thing things better be godly to justify that exorbitant price, feels like the price was beefed up because of the amount of buttons. Sigh Logitech you should know that no one will see the sense in buying a wheel that costs more than their brand new console.
Why does the Xbox wheel cost the same but not have all the niceties like the PS wheel, no leds lights, missing the extra control dials and buttons and all for the same asking price? Facepalm.
I thought this was important because it means Logitech might support G25/G27 for PS4, but no one has mentioned that. 2nd, I thought I read about a 27 position switch on the wheel. If that is true then (as unrealistic as it might be) it could be mapped to change pretty much all settings on the fly. Man, I wish I could just change TC without backing out to the setup menu. I’m hopeful.
Dude, it has been possible to change TC and other settings on the fly since GT5 using the RA menu. The Driving Force GT wheel has the same switches that the G29 looks to have. Hopefully they are higher quality dials and buttons than on the DFGT though.
Cool video, but not one mention of the pedals. Too bad, it sounds like the wheel has some potential to be good. We have to assume the pedals are just the same positional G27 pedals?
Jerome
Wait for the reviews…. And I’ll see if it’s worth the money.
$400, shifter extra? This is an outrage. Unless they completely redesigned the guts to be 3X smoother, quieter and more solid, I genuinely don’t understand how they see fit to charge $400 for this thing. I really wanted to get this over Thrustmaster, but I just can’t see paying $100 more than I paid for my G27 ($160 if you count the shifter!!) to essentially just keep using my G27.
If that happens, nobody is not going to buy a g29 except for Xbox users.
I would absolutely love to buy this wheel but I’m not sure about this price, either way I am quite desperate for an upgrade from the driving force GT wheel not saying that it’s bad it’s just that the single motor is quite annoying for driving and “counter steering”
Does the G27 have a chance to be available on PS4 in the next months..?
Nope.
I would think it will, but they may just pull ANOTHER “Screw you” to their customer base in order to sell more G29’s.
Looking forward to this being $699AUD here in Australia and getting it in a year or so…
I see good ol’ Logitech is still shipping those lame-ass peddles with every wheel.
I see good ol’ Logitech is still shipping those lame-ass pedals with every wheel.
“The two models are roughly identical, though the G29 is compatible with both the PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 4, while the G920 is compatible with the Xbox One and does not include the same red adjustable dial. Both models will also be compatible with the PC.”
What if I play sim racing games on ALL platforms? I have to buy both a G29 and a G920?????? Is this a joke?
There wads a time when I could play GT6, FM4 and iRacing with the same freaking wheel: FANATEC CSR.
I won’t get ripped again.
If you can afford all platforms, you can afford both wheels.
No I can’t. And I don’t want to. I’m not stupid and I won’t get ripped. What kind of logic is yours?
400$ for ONE.
The price would have been justified if 1) the wheel worked with ALL systems 2) included the H patter shifter 3) the pedals were better (clubsport style)
Then just follow your Fanatec.The G series was originally for and only for PS and PC platforms only.Xbox was not their concern.People wanted it to be available on Xbox,and they fulfilled that.Yet now you are complaining that how crap it is for Logitech you cannot use G29 on all platforms while they never did that.Talk about logic huh?
Fanatec has a couple of wheel that work with PS4/PS3/Xbox360/PC. THIS is the only logic thing.
Where do Logitech say the prices? I cant see them anywhere
I give you tree fiddy for it!
What can I get for a dollar?
I have a DS2 lying around.
Yeaaaah G29 will also compatible with PC… nice ^_^ …but the price is not nice LOL :p
The G27, coming with the shifter, is under 300 dollars. The G29 has about the same technology for 400. That’s just ridiculous. Glad I got a G27 instead of a G29.
Glad you bought something that was available for 5 years over something that isn’t on the market yet is sort of like …sigh. You’re right about one thing that price is absolutely absurd and it should be $250 at the most missing the shifter and all. This isn’t even new technology, Logitech want to have money woes all over again.
Cool wheel but I aint spending $400 unless it blows me away.
Can’t get my head around the prices. £299.00 = $463.83 and €399.00 = $444.68. I think I’d rather give the difference to a US shipping company than on one who seems to be more obsessed by X99.00 pricing!
Not a big fan of “shifter sold separately” but at least you get a clutch unlike the T-Master T300 arrangement. Still, won’t be getting this until GT7 is well released. Maybe the price will come down by 2025!
The Nike ONE will be out by then
$514 AUD you can go home again Logitech
Agreed, that is a lot of money for a wheel that isn’t completly new. The T500 crushsed the G27…
Nearly 600 aud with the shifter! :( I was really looking forward to buying one right away.
VBR’s TOP TIP: If you’re a G27/G25 wheel owner & want Project CARS compatibility on PS4, then get a second hand Fanatec CSR, GT2, or GT3. Buy it on ebay/Gumtree bundled with some other stuff (pedals, shifter etc), then sell the other stuff on to offset the cost of the wheel.
How much does reliability cost?
And I’m being serious with my pun. I’ll have to say that Logitech is pretty much rock solid as far as product durability goes, but I’ve heard of issues with both Fanatec and Thrustmaster wheels. I’m sure I’d be happy with either, if they were bulletproof, but dealing with overseas boutique peripheral companies involves a little more hassle than being able to get something from a US shop.
My first G25 had to be sent back because it was faulty, my second one was fine but developed faults outside of warranty, which I managed to fix myself after extensive Googling. There are problems with these wheels, but if you get a good one, or fix an easy issue yourself they can last a long time. My first G27 was faulty as well, & had to be exchanged for a new one, that’s how I got a brand new sealed G27. Dunno about Fanatec, the GT2 wheel was the first one I’ve owned, it’s second hand & seems to be working fine at the moment. Getting a cheap second hand Fanatec wheel to use with existing G25/G27 pedals is a cheap way to go next gen on a shoe string budget for some people.
And there were major issues with the optical sensor on the G27 which apparently have been adressed.
So not much cheaper than the thrustmaster then, £20 pound more buys you a t500 from Amazon with a superior pedal set.
It’s more expensive than a t300rs. I paid $508 total for my wheel and t3pa pedals, the G29 cost us (Canada) $499.99. That’s ridiculous.
If you’re not going to sell an H-gated shifter with the wheel and pedals, why have it come with a clutch? Unless you happen to like clutching in while hitting a paddle, the clutch will be useless until you pony up the extra 50 bucks.
I get where you’re coming from. Having just bought a T300RS I would have liked the option to buy it with a 3 pedal setup and shifter as a package. A T300Pro if you like, and I see why some who only use paddles will object to paying extra for a useless clutch. I wish both Logi and TM would give us more pick and mix options so we’re not paying for shtuff we don’t want.
Because the mould for the pedal base costs $$ and Logitech has two available already that will do the job. The DFGT pedal base and the G27 pedal base. There’s no point in spending $10’s of thousands on a new injection mould just for a different looking set of pedals, especially when the wheel is essentially a G27 with a new wheel attached.
A bit of a change in CAD and IM doesn’t cost $10k+ but I agree that the G27 pedals are perfectly fine and have mods already available. I’m really liking the T300, but the pedals are not up to the standard of the wheel. Fortunately I can use my G27 pedals, but Logitech seem to be charging a lot for an extra pedal and if I upgrade my T300 pedals, I have a useless set to chuck in the shed. Just talking about options. That can’t be a bad thing.
after reading this, I have to say that it’s nice to see Logitech returns to racing wheel market. In addition to it, I went to Logitech’s website and checked out the products. Both are pretty much identical (including the price), one thing that I want to mention though: Both wheels support PC. Just by looking at the pictures, I’m hooked to them. I mean, they’re so well built. I hope that they both will perform well.
That’s about twice as expensive as it should be. I predict Logitech’s return to the console market will be short-lived.
Then again, the G27 still has a MSRP of $299.
G27 is $200Cdn
Thanks to the wonderful world of discounts and discount retailers, which is a heck of a lot better in Canada than the US (Amazon Prime’s and NewEgg’s price is US$240, and another Amazon affiliate’s price is US$235). That percentage of discounting on the G29/G920 won’t make them a competitive option.
If I had to venture a guess, the entire reason that “backwards compatibility” was shot down for the G25/27 wheels is because they all knew this was coming. Make people buy a new wheel for a ludicrous amount so we can make some quick cash. Screw you Logitech and SONY. My G27 is already PC compatible and I’ll run that thing until it literally starts on fire, and PS4 is NOT in my future. Then I’ll throw it out along with the PS3 and buy something from a different company not directly involved with either one of you. (*Hoping GTA R4 doesn’t actually start my G27 on fire*)
@Jordan
Some clarification please? The art says PS3 & PS4 for the G29, and XB1 and PC for the G920, yet you said…
“Both models will also be compatible with the PC.”
Is this confirmed? Or no?
“Both models will also be compatible with the PC.” It’s in the OP and on their website.
This price seems way too high, but then again the T300 is very unreliable…
Too much money. Bad call, Logitech.
Oh, and in case anyone missed it:
“Both models will also be compatible with the PC.”
@Griffith500 they will be compatible with PC, but this compatibility is just convenience. Basically they released a wheel which is compatible for the next gen (mainly PS4) consoles. Added backwards compatibility too. The same way, G25/27 was targeted at PC, but it was also compatible with PS3, as added bonus.
Now i have a feeling there will be something like G3X, in the future, which will be mainly for PC. So if you don’t have console, don’t by this one yet :)
The way I see it, PC compatibility is just an exercise in jumping through hoops to get the drivers signed by Microsoft for the new device ID (had a similar issue with an old Saitek wheel that only worked under XP if you made it identify as a different brand peripheral because Saitek’s licence had expired with Win98).
I mean, the hardware and drivers are probably otherwise identical with what they put together for the G25 / G27.
Hopefully Logitech aren’t banking on this wheel to fund development of new peripherals!
Is it a joke?
Logitech sais That they stopped peripherals for Playstation
Si finally they let all the owners of the old wheels alone….
Sorry Logitech, are You follow the line of Apple,
It s a scam????
Of course it is.
Lol well this was pointless,we were all hoping for it to be around $250-$300 only to find out its $400!!! smh Logitech has dug there own grave with this,there best option would’ve been to sell it for less so people could easily choose it over the T300,only upper hand they have over the T300 is the addition clutch pedal now.
Like I said before if you still have your G27 check out the Fanatec 911 GT3 wheel,it’s compatible with the G27 pedal n shifter and PS4 and only cost $149,idk whether GT7 will end up supporting it but PCars does and it’s definitely better than dropping $400…just saying
I dunno. To get a Thrustmaster wheel with separate shifter and three-pedal setup, you’ll still end up spending over US$500. That’s a lot of money.
Granted, I’m considering changing up to a T300RS with TH8A shifter and T3PA triple-pedal setup soon, but still…
I can get a Fanatec wheel with pedals for less than a G29 and shifter. Bye Logi.
They should have named it the G420. I think there was a lot of 420 in the offices of Logitech when they dreamed up that design and figured out the MSRP.
That’s a good one Johnny. :P
Or the G40. Because they must have been drinking 40s when they came up with this.
(And, by the way, I think the wheel looks awesome. :P)
I’d be curious as to how the local dealer would sell them. I’ve never seen a zip-lock bag big enough to fit a steering-wheel in it…
Above reply directed @JP.
Too expensive 460 € for the whole package I’m ok spending 250 € but 460 sorry Logitech you can keep it.
$400 seems pricy for me, I rather invest in a Fanatec
I was expecting an improvement and this is just another face of the same (great) wheel.
Double helical gears would have been the best step forward and I was really hoping to see it, Logitech would have had my money, even though my G27 is almost new.
So if I want a wheel that works on my Playstation AND PC I have to purchase both? And for $400 each?!? Looks like I’ll just hang on to my G27…..
lol wut? did you not read it? it says that BOTH wheels will be compatible with PC.
No..still just a single wheel..the T300.
“Both models will also be compatible with the PC.”
You need to go back and re-read and actually comprehend the article. They both are compatible with the PC….both of them. As for me, pricey or not, this is what I’ll be purchasing for my return to Xbox and Forza. I couldn’t be happier to see this news. As a loyal Logitech customer, I will also buy the PS4 wheel later on down the line if GT7 turns out to be anything worthwhile.
Maybe I read it a little fast, still keeping my G27. Off my back Cargo.
What happens Cargo if you want to make the move back to PS4?. Gotta buy a whole new wheel!!
Nice to see that all the rumors and leaks were true after all.
Just what I wanted to hear, with it being compatible for both PS3 and PS4, and even PC! That’s the number one thing I’d want out of a wheel, since it’s such a big investment that will only be used on a handful of games!
Yes, if you buy both wheels. The pc compatible wheel is compatible with XBone, not the PS4.
“Both models will also be compatible with the PC.”
Yes, sorry, I was going on old information.
Why we always pay more in Europe? However, a natural change for my DFGT.
I’ve been wondering why Thrustmaster was pushing the T300 so hard. It’s now obvious that they were clinging onto market share as hard as they could, because this wheel will obviously fry it.
Yeah Logitech!!!!!!!
Now, how about legacy wheel support…. ;)
I have to disagree, T300 wheel (not the pedals) is on par with T500. The T500 is much better
(in my opinion) than G27. I’m sure many will back me up on this.
With respect your comment made me chuckle, as expensive as it is the T300 is a far superior wheel. (I have both) and for the record I am not saying the “G” range from Logitech is bad, its superb. I did have to pay through the nose for my glorious shifter and a decent set of pedals for the T300 but hey you get what you pay for, its a huge step up.
The pedals are better then the stock T300 pedals, but the T300 is quite a step up from this basically 10 year old design.
Ricmotech makes an adapter that allows you to use G27 pedals with the T300. The T300 pedals are, as others have stated, inferior to the G27 set. If you have a G27 and are looking to truly upgrade instead of buying what is basically the same wheel, the adapter at least keeps you from needing a new pedal set too.
And if you are on pc I think it’s Leo Bodnar that makes a dongle for the G27 shifter to work with the T300 as well.
£300? Logitech can get stuffed. The separate shifter is probably going to be another £100 too. Hopefully by the time my G25 completely dies, the price will probably come down a bit.
The one big awful thing that can’t be really avoided with wheels….the price! Especially new ones.
I can’t believe I just went out and spent 320 quid on a thrustmaster t300rs which only came with two flimsy peddles (granted the wheel is good) and now they have announced this wheel I feel cheated. The G27 was an amazing wheel so id expect the g29 to be the same and more!
To be fair, they have been talking about the G27 replacement for several months now with G29 leaks happening for about at least a month.
Do not feel cheated. You purchased the better wheel. Belt driven vs. helical gearing. I do not understand why someone would buy this instead of T300. maybe the pedals, but I think the wheel trumps the pedals.
I agree and the thrustmaster gear stick is way better quality too (not tried it just looks better). But I was Googling about logitech g27 support for ps4 and general logitech info and I didn’t see anything about g29 until I saw it here. And I brought the t300rs a month ago so bad timing. I’ll stick with my new wheel. Get the 3 pedal set up and gear stick. And maybe the Ferrari wheel. :-)
For this price?! So sorry…
Good to see that the G29 will support PC as well!!!
http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g29-driving-force?wt.ac_id=global_news_g29_06112015
Specification Section;
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
Playstation®4 or Playstation®3
Powered USB port
OR
Windows® 8.1, Windows 8 or Windows 7
Powered USB Port
Internet connection and 150MB hard drive space (for optional software download)
Games that support Logitech® force feedback racing wheel
It’s pc on one, PS4 on the other.
“Both models will also be compatible with the PC.”
My mistake, sorry.
I wonder if the current G27/G25 shifters will be compatible…
Sorry I meant *$625! Crazy!
Why did it have to be $400!!! That is the cost of a console alone ARRRGGG. Even still, I want it day one.
Don’t forget the price of the shifter!
And a play seat as well! If I got this day one and a cheap http://www.playseatstore.com/challenge.html playseat, then my total is $525, without shipping or the manual shifter! I’m sure I’d still be happy, but damn, that is quite the investment!
Sorry I meant *$625! Crazy!
Don’t forget the T300 is a superior wheel for the same or less money.