Comments made by Sony’s Computer Entertianment Europe’s Senior Vice President Michael Denny have been gathering quite a bit of attention over the last 24 hours, and for good reason.
In an interview with Silicon Republic, he casually suggests that Gran Turismo 6 will be released on the PlayStation 3 console:
“Look at the games coming out on the PlayStation 3 like The Last of Us, Beyond: Two Souls, GT6, and then on the third-party side of things another fantastic Assassin’s Creed, GTA,” Denny listed. “It’s important for our content to have that kind of longevity because, as I was saying [about the PS Vita], the games that come through are going to get better and better over time.”
As the company’s highest-selling first-party series (Michael Denny himself has described the series as “THE PlayStation franchise” and “our flagship title”), it would be quite awkward for the next “flagship title” to be released on the aging PS3 as the company shifts its promotional and marketing efforts towards the PlayStation 4.
It is worth noting the two first-party titles he mentioned in his comments: The Last of Us, and Beyond: Two Souls, have both been formally announced with confirmed release dates in 2013. Gran Turismo 6, meanwhile, remains a secretive project that few within the company will talk about in any degree of detail.
As always, head over to our Gran Turismo 6 forum for more discussion and debate.
In an interview with Silicon Republic, he casually suggests that Gran Turismo 6 will be released on the PlayStation 3 console”….
! Allah is great !
OK, if what they wanted is to sell the CONSOLE, not mattering too much the games themselves, they could do like those downloadables that work on PS3, PSP and PSVita, or those where you buy one version and get a digital version for the other, and make games run on BOTH PS3 and PS4 consoles (maybe even the PS Vita), with the PS4 version having better graphics, of course.
On PS3? Oh hell no. PS4 has so much more potential.
Doesn’t matter to me, I would love to see it on PS4, but if it’s on PS3 screw it. I’ll still be driving the game.
Amen to that!
you got that right shoot ill rather pay for just the game than a game anda system
Yes definently more true Stock Car courses, maybe even a classic Nascar mode and Riverside California, road course, (Stock cars raced there in the 60s) Watkins Glenn, and Sonoma California.
Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Mercury RM Intermediate OEM shell we could Livery edit…The potential is there for sure.
*^Response to Killacam863^*
I would imagine that its probably much easier for PD to make GT6 on the PS4 because of its vastly superior performance. Kaz surely has a good idea of what he wants GT6 to do and be at this point, and it’s generally much easier to do whatever you are trying to do on a faster system with more memory. GT6 may not take full advantage of every nook and cranny of the hardware but it can potentially make development much easier & faster.
I just Hope Gt6 Has Nascar In Ill Be Happy With whatever Console It Comes Out On # Crossing My Fingers !!!
This topic on a short winded comment made on a whim by a Sony exec’, has amassed more comments than the PS4 reveal itself… Amazing.
Michael Denny interview with CVG thats online now. No mention of GT6!!! 26 February 2013
He may have made a mistake by even saying GT6 before,
“Where do Sony’s studios stand in terms of moving to PS4 development and possibly continuing to support the PS3? The company of course has a strong track record of supporting its older systems…
The first thing to say is you’re right – when you look at PlayStation 3, the line-ups this year such as Beyond, The Last of Us and third-party games such as new Grand Theft Auto and Assassin’s Creed games… PlayStation 3 is still getting some awesome games on it.”
Noteworthy that he would drop GT6, given all of the buzz around the last mention of it. I’m not a betting man usually, but I would bet this lack of mention was on purpose this time, hehe.
Also noteworthy that not mentioning it is in no way confirmation that it isn’t coming to PS3, just has the previous mention was not confirmation that it was coming.
So, basically, after 361 posts of pure GT speculation fun, we now know just has much has we did on Feb 23rd. XD
Ahhh well, until next time, and make no mistake, there will be a next time………muahahahaha!
Sony already shot themselves in the foot once before by stretching PD too thin with GTPSP and therefore cocking up GT5’s release schedule. After owning GT5 since it released I can say one thing, there is no way in hell that PD would put more money and time into PS3 game development and not pour that into PS4. GT5 will probably culminate with a Spec III update and that will be the nail in the coffin, when was the last time there was DLC released? Many moons now and with PD rolling back an update which was pushing the physics system forward lets you know that GT5 on PS3 is probably the last as they more than likely had to consolidate and throw the towel in as PS3 can’t handle any more complexities.
PS4 on the other hand they probably have full GT5 code running and possibly with all the stuff which Sorg uncovered full tuning options, different brake options and the like with the better PP calculations including tire type that affects the PP because honestly everything affects the performance of a car not just a few values like GT5 has skillfully attempted to do with limited values which fails to an extent.
PD was involved in the underpinings of the PS4, that boat load of GDDR5 RAM was probably because of them as we all know from the many interviews with Kaz that during GT5 production they took high resolution photos of all the locations and cars and they were reduced to fit PS3 architecture. GT6 needs to be a considerable step up from GT5 to warrant it’s moniker as a haphazard release on PS would certainly create bad press for PD and Sony alike. Sure there is a driving game coming to PS4 around launch but face it, it’s not Gran Turismo and as we all can see Gran Turismo sells a lot.
Why wouldn’t Sony want Gran Turismo 6 their biggest system seller and most notable franchise out of the gate to showcase the PS4? Looking back and what PD accomplished on that RAM starved PS3 you can only imagine what insane things PD will add in to GT6 on PS4. Every course with day/night transition and weather effects, including snow in appropriate places(Nur anyone), 40+ car count, more trackside details and movement, better dynamic lighting and deeper more intricate physics system, better calculations for PP, deeper customization, free roam?!? possibility Kaz mentioned like city drive or something. All I know is GT5 was a massive amount of ground work that was built for something much more powerful than the PS3 that is for certain, fact that so many things remain locked proves that PD ambitions were beyond the PS3 capabilities. GT6 on PS3 would be a travesty and a even worse blackeye than GT5 was with it’s limitations and half baked promises. GT6 needs to be fully realized and I don’t see that happening on PS3, not by a long shot. Can’t even have 16 car standing start without the game slowing down and lagging. I’m just basing this off information I have come across and actually owning the game and enduring some crazy stuff including that lame online which needs to be a whole lot more user friendly.
PD you guys are awesome but honestly I wish they would not go overboard with certain things and actually have correspondence with the community. We want GT to return to form, full on tuning and not this lightweight stuff that is just slap and dash stuff, tire pressures, ECU mapping control, boost control, tire width and ratio, actual front lip spoilers with adjustable angles as well as adjustable rear spoilers for pretty much every car as realistically you can bolt these things to pretty much any car possible. Just make sure things are scalable and we won’t end up with issues like a car with a small rear spoiler which obviously looks ridiculous in comparison to the much wider car body. We’ll see what PD does, but I don’t even see GT6 on PS3 making any sort of sense or GT6 on both being a good use of their expertise and wasteful in the long run.
Now thats a wall of Random Ramblings.
“All I know is GT5 was a massive amount of ground work that was built for something much more powerful than the PS3 that is for certain, fact that so many things remain locked proves that PD ambitions were beyond the PS3 capabilities.”
Disagree. The only aspect of GT5 that’s pushing anything is graphically. Beyond that there exists a mountain of aspects that could be improved to VAST degrees without requiring any more processing power. You are correct in saying that PD’s ambitions were a bit much- but again that is mostly due to their desire to possess the pinnacle of racing-sim graphics. 16 cars at 500k polygons a piece is certainly WAY more than the little PS3 can handle. If they could render these cars at just a touch lower res during gameplay (which I can assure you we would not notice) and overhaul the smoke/spray effects- making them less GPU-intensive, then they could easily put some major effort towards making the great racing sim/game that we all expect from such an esteemed and well-funded enterprise.
GT6 on PS3 does not have to be a travesty. In this community we have got some substantial evidence of what GT6 *will have- tracks GALORE, human drama (lol), a bit more environmental damage, all cars premium, more tuning options, most likely a basic livery editor, etc.. Throw in some racing A.I. and a decent tire model and GT5 instantly becomes a fading memory.
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7864152#post7864152
After reading all of that, my brain is simply a fried hot dog.
I’ve got over the “GT6 should be on PS4”, and theres a good reason why Sony chose to have it on the PS3. DriveClub has the PS4 for racing games covered, GT6 will handle the PS3 to hold us over until GT7 is made since how easy it is to make games on the PS4 now. I’m still hoping to get a PS4 near Christmas though, HANDS DOWN the best system there is this year. :)
For all we know, GT7 may even come out faster as well.
I know everyone will hate one me for saying this, but I’m doing it anyways.
I’m just going to make one very quick request for Gran Turismo 6.
Ditch the Special Stage Route 7 idea and put Special Stage Route 11 back into the GT realm.
100% agree however I would like all special stage routes in.
+1. Agreed. More so, PD should add an interchangeable highway location. Straight up ‘Tokyo Extreme Racer 2’ style, with traffic and all. God that would be amazing in a Gran Turismo game. All special stages interchangeable via overpasses, exits, and entrances, bridges, tunnels, etc. With day night cycles (not just night), and fluctuating traffic levels. Yeah, over the top o’d, hate on it, sure, but I’d like to see that in Gran Turismo.
+2 SZRT, I definitely agree. That’s my idea of a dream GT… In no way is that over the top.
Gran Turismo 6 PS3!!!!
Surely Michael Denny has got to release a statement soon to sort this out one way or the other ..!!??
“Sony owns 12 studios that only make
PlayStation games, and it should
come as no surprise that many of
those studios are focused on making
PlayStation 4 games. But in a
conversation with IGN, President of
Sony’s Worldwide Studios Shuhei
Yoshida – the man basically calling
the shots for every PlayStation
exclusive – confirmed that every
studio in Sony’s stable is making
PlayStation 4 games.
The question posed to Yoshida was
simple: “Is it fair to say that all of
the first party studios are working on
PS4 games?” Yoshida’s answer was
just as simple: “Is it fair or not fair?
It is fair to say.”
DLC would be nice, I think we could see more.
Eventually (if not sooner) Sony Execs and PD are gonna have to have a sitdown and get on the same page (not necessarily publicly) about the Future of GT6.
Wonder what Kaz’s reaction to this statement was???
Am I right in saying…
“No more DLC, all the concentration on optimizing GT6”?
I’m happy to wait for their next release, but some may want DLC.
DLC seems necessary in my eyes.
I don’t think DLC is necessary just yet. We still need Spec 3 to come out first.
You must remember that PD’s idea of DLC is not what we always expect. If we expect something like a Pagani Zonda Cinque, we would probably get something like regional clones of cars that exist in the game. The best we saw was the Aventador, V12 Vantage or the racing car pack, and we can’t expect more super/hypercars.
assumptions?
Well, taking a step back, we might not see a spec 3, only to see PD release GT6 and tie up some loose ends from GT5. Hopes may still be high for more top-end DLC…
As iv predicted since day 1 I think we will see gt6 on ps3 and gt6 4k on ps4…the ps3 will still be here by the tens of millions when the ps4 is released!! Even when ppl buy a ps4 their old ps3 will still be in existence and get handed down etc. Im looking forward to gt6 on both playforms
PS4, Xbox 3 WILL NOT support 4K games.
They will support 4K movies/videos.
My guess, no expert.
GT5 spec 3 (something great to hold us over) PS3
GT6 PS4
I didn’t know that level of detail, thanks for the info, i still think we’ll see a gt6 morek / higher res / faster loading version on the ps4. Either way the ps3 isn’t going anywhere no matter how “obsolete” people seem to think it is now, there’s billions to be made in releasing it on ps3, money that can be ploughed into further developments. I’m looking forward to gt6 on both platforms.
@77
:tup: Both systems, indeed.
“Either way the ps3 isn’t going anywhere no matter how “obsolete” people seem to think it is now, there’s billions to be made in releasing it on ps3, money that can be ploughed into further developments.”
Boom! :)
@77
That’s the most sensible reasoning for the decision, you nailed it friend.
GT6 on PS3 would definently be more profit quicker for PD for sure, and at the end of the day, they all do it for the money.
Husenator, and anyone else doubting a GT6 on PS4.
Listen,
In game development, 1- 1.5years of work gets put into a game before a debut trailer is even released.
Even IF GT6 is slated for PS3 (which I really really doubt) just know the PS4 GT would release within a year of PS4 release,
With that said, if you’ve been following the PS4 rumors and progress, you would see as late as December 2012, 1st party devs like Naughty Dog, Guerilla Games and Polyphony were using dev kits with 2GB of ram.
On a side note, two years ago, Naughty Dog gad an advertising of a job post asking for people who have experience in Character Design with upward of 1 Million polygon characters.
In February 2013, Naughty Dog when asked in an interview if they were ready for PS4 said they are more prepared now than they were with the leap from PS2-PS3.
When asked why, they said their main Character and object designs are stored as very high and detailed HD files and they scaled them down to PS3.
If you look at GT5. You see the same thing.
Super high polygon models used in Photomode but lower resolution in the game. They downscaled the models when their running in GT5.
Its been a rumor for 2-3 years now that Sony is ditching the Cell in favor of X86-64 CPU.
So devs have known for a while the
1)Modifying needed to the game engine to work on PS4.
2) They must store HD textures with more detail than what the PS3 can handle for next gen.
So, PD could very easily work on GT6 and not directly port between PS4 and PS3, but rather release the game on PS4 with a PS4 modified engine (to work on X86Cpu) and port the lower polygon models to work on the existing GT5 engine.
That is a possibility.
People you don `t know or have forgotten? Why the GT3 and GT4 came out on PS2? Because on PS2 was no PSN no PS store inability updates, DLC’s, patch. GT6 on PS4!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /sorry if my english bad/
Good point, ive seen your posts from before and your english seems to be getting better
That can’t be the reason.Thats a Molehill to a Mountain assumption, PD and Kaz probably hadnt considered online play or purchasing, not to mention DLC and Firmware updates etc, for GT3…and patches are an online thing, GT5 would have less had it been built to a better standard.
“Every Sony-Owned Studio is Working on PS4 Games”
“Polyphony Digital is almost certainly working on Gran Turismo 6 for PS4”
IGN
IGN has a long history of being wrong.
So does Sony and PD
You’ve got a point there e30.
;) pretty sure you’ll tag me back, your a sharp lad
Polyphony is confused and trouble!
They are waiting before releasing details to prevent “copycat” attempts by rivals. Just as soon as PS4’s appearance is revealed, so will details of GT6.
I don’t get the big deal and why everyone’s worried they can make the game for ps3 and ps4 ps3 naturally would probably get the slightly dumbed down version just as ps2 and ps3 did but I’d rather spend 60 for the game rather than 500 plus for a new console and game
You hit it right on the money.
The price of the nextsystemis still up in the air though.
The price of the next system is still up in the air though. :/
:)
Oh yeah. Use proper grammar and Punctuation. It was a bit confusing to read at first.
Its funny, we all come here as Gran Turismo fans.
Some guys just come here to hate and troll guys who arent as techy.
Stop trolling and get a life.
That’s true. Suggest improvments, share thoughts, but never rip a Gran Turismo title!
PS4 will live 6-7 years .. why PD would release GT6 on day one , on PS3 they did it 2 years before the end of this console, on the 5th year.
They can release GT6 on PS3 … or a Big Update of GT5 with some Big DLC like Spec III (I hope!!!!!)
Than GT6 or GT7 on PS4 after 2/3 years … in 2015/16 … with PS4 lower price and Gran Turismo they can do a lot of money!!
Well think of it like this people… Didn’t Sony announce that the ps4 will be backwards compatible for ps3 games? I really don’t understand why, but I think that PD is going to hold out on GT6 until the release of the ps4. Sure they’re releasing it as a ps3 game, but maybe they’re trying to stay on the “safe” side of things since gt5’s conundrum release. (Metaphorically) It’s like they’re releasing gran turismo 2 (ps1 platform) for the ps2. More conservative if anything…
PS4 won’t be backwards compatible with PS3/2 or 1. Mainy because Sony wants you to pay for a digital download of a game you already own.
HarVee, what you just wrote is bs.
There will ONLY be backwards compatibility with GAIKAI.
They have ditched the CELL cpu.
PS2 was a mess and needed the actual PS2 Emotion Engine and GFX synthesizer to run,
They experimented with PS2 software emulation and less than half the games worked.
PS1 could be emulated, but at this point in time, its easier to use Servers and stream PS1,2,3 games through Gaikai.
My knowledge is limited with these things, but I think you’re being a troll!
Oh course you do. I’m wrong you’re right. Want a brownie button?
I t would be easy to believe if PS4 is backwards compatible that there would be features that could be turned off with a PS3 to keep the FPS up for gaming. Once upgrading to a PS4 you could then unleash the full features and higher FPS of GT6 on the new system. A key selling point for the new system and a win-win situation for both the software and hardware development companies.
Me no listen to HarVee anymore. HarVee senses are too thick for I. Me ignore HV.
LOL, Pokemon (with black 2 and white 2) did the same thing when Nintendo announced the 3ds.
If gt6 is gonna come out for the ps3, that means no ps4
Oh, I’m getting a PS4 regardless of GT6’s eventual landing place – already four great looking games confirmed.
@MeanElf
Did you see the trailer for Deep Down?
OMG…
Geez… having CELL+RSX in there… and the split XDR+DDR3….
you’ll bankrupt Sony.. No one is paying $599 or $699 for PS4..
Nvidia made it an impossibility to merge Cell+RSX on the same die… Sony made advancements do so, but Nvidia refused to do it, as that would make them more affordable..
Keep your PS3 until Gaikai is fully integrated.
I hear they want a system where you would put your PS3 disc inside your PS4, it will recognise what game it is and then with Gaikai, stream to you. Using your PS3 game as an authentification you own it.
From what I understood, if you had a PSN account on your PS3, PSN would recognize the games saved on the PS3 account and you’d be able to stream them, like you said, but no disk necessary. This disk thing could be true as well…
Considering how small save files/game profiles are, I’d bet those could transfer a well. But my question is what would occur with purchased DLC content… Would that be recognized as well and be able to transfer…?
@QuakeBass …
Its more likely to need the disk.
If its based on trophy information/psn account, how would they know you OWN the game.. and didnt just rent it and the data is on the PS3?
It is possible to have the DLC on there..
It would be all DLC on the remote server farm and let you access what you paid for.
My comment was to SaintSaiya..
Not sure why it didnt reply but added it here..
The PS3 was a mess.
If it had unified DDR3 ram day 1, GT5 would have looked ALOT better and taken less than half the time to make.
The PS4 is going to make it a standard to have games at 1080P.
Its up to the devs to set up the framerate they want to get to.
It seems to also revolve around when and on what dev kit they started working on next gen.
A dev on B3D forums wrote two days ago, the Killzone video and demo played on Jimmy Falln was based on the 2GB GDDR5 ram. That model had 1.5GB Ram and a weak AMD A8 CPU and seperate GPU. Yet the game looks fantastic because of it being a closed system. That video is also unoptimised Alpha footage, so at release it will look even better.
The dev kits in December were 8 Steamroller Cores clocked at 1.6ghz each and a HD7850 GPU (I think, may have been a 6770)
In other words, the final final final spec sees the APU setup.
It is literally 10times the power of PS3.
BUT it will be far more powerful due to the great ram and latency between the components.
If they make GT from the ground up for PS4… It would look beyond anything you’ve ever seen.
3D… has been abandoned. In fact, it limited GT5 from looking better..
But 60FPS and 1080P is entirely possible.
It would be such a waste to see GT6 on PS3.. GT5 barely runs. Technically, the PS4 is a dream machine for GT.
A friend of mine was explaining it to me, how the PS4 GPGPU setup and how the ram is such a dream for GT. He told me the exact reasons we have certain problems such as fuzzy smoke and water effects blurring the edges on the cars etc etc etc…
Two possibilities exist here,
1) GT6 will be on PS3 only.
2)GT6 will be cross platform with PS3 and PS4.
The problem with number 1, PD could refine their game engine as much as they want to, they will release GT6 on PS3 and it will look so close to GT5 we would never see a difference…
Number 2… well, they COULD make it cross platform… by using a patent Sony filed in 2011 or so.
The PS3 had one CPU to control the other 6 SPUs. They do have a patent for Cell emulation via General purpose CPU,
What they could do (Cell was a CPU/GPU hybrid in itself, the original PS3 design did not even have a GPU, but Two Cells and 12 SPu’s, six for graphics,six for compute) ,
What they could do, use a few of the Jaguar Cores to emulate the PS3 PPE on PS4 and use a few CUs on the AMD GPU to emulate the 7800GTX in the PS3.
That way,we would have a crossplatform GT6.
But, why continue investing in PS3 tech on PS4?
It seems like waste to me…
I still feel he made a mistake by mentioning it.
Vita-PS4 GT6 cross platform release is more believable, as outright on the Vita they have 4 Cores for GPU and 4 Core GPU.. they could just scale what they have.
And since when graphics and shadows determine if a game is good or bad? Do you honestly think that smooth shadows would make GT6 better than GT5? Sorry, but that’s not the case. GT2 and GT3 were far more enjoyable than GT5 in the long term, and one of them looked like total crap comparing to current gens.
I don’t care for which console GT6 will be released. I just want to hear some news about the game already. Come on PD! Just a little teaser trailer or something!
I get what you mean, HuskyGT. Not only that, but I agree.
Gameplay>Graphics any day.
I want to hear they’ve ditched B Spec mode and integrated the car club mode from the game Drive Club.
What I do know.. Ive read a rumor saying originally, Evolution Studios made Drive Club and showed driveclub to Sony asking if it can be named Gran Turismo: Spinoff like Forza Horizon and Kaz said NO!
So, im not sure where that leaves us with GT..
Drive Club is a launch title. So, they arent expecting GT6 to be out with Drive Club on PS4…
I do agree… I want a freakin trailer already.
Keep fighting the good fight, HuskyGT!
Why the heck are people talking about GT6 being released on the PS3 too, if it is released on the PS4? That will never happen in a million years. Of course they want people to buy the new console, so it will be a PS4 title, and only a PS4 title.
Gran Turismo = gurenteed PS4 sales.
PS4 is Day 1 buy from me if they do release or tease GT6
+1
GT = guaranteed PS4 sales.
PS4 =/= guaranteed GT sales.
If GT doesn’t have substantial improvements come release day, it’s a no buy for me (fanboy days are up). I firmly believe the PS3 is not capable of delivering the improvements GT would need to warrant a purchase. PS4 or no buy for GT6 in my case. They’d have to pull a miracle otherwise.
I’m still going with my dual release thoery on this one (both the PS3 and PS4). It may also be released on the Vita at the same time. Who knows. We’ll just have to wait and see!
GT6 for PS4 then?
GT6 PROLOGUE on PS3. GT6 ON PS3. Perhaps to get everyone excited about GT6. Purely speculation on my part.
But why not?
More like GT6 on PS3 and GT7:P on PS4.
But I think GT6 is coming to PS4 regardless of it coming to PS3 or not.
So please someone tell me, im not a tech expert but those ps4 specs are able to run all ps4 games in full 1080p at 60 frames per second and on top of that full stereocopic 3D right? Please someone tell me it is so!!!!
Should be capable if the game supports it. Won’t know until the final model and specs are actually released. Who knows what could be changed between now and then. Wait for confirmation. Likely @ E3.
It depends on what’s going on in the game – there’s a limit to how many particles and how much detail is being rendered at this 1080p @60 FPS. For a standard PS4 game, more than likely consistently. For a game running an advanced soft-body physics engine and has particles rather than a net for liquids/fluids, maybe not.
[Answer to same question Taken from PSU]
mikeghtmare
12:24pm EST – February 22nd, 2013
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It probably has nothing to do with the HW, it most likely has to do with the amount of work needed to have 60 fps. Companies have to take under account the amount of money and time it would take them and then make a decision whether it’s worth the extra effor or not.
Gameoholic007 | [PSN ID] Demented007
8:42pm EST – February 22nd, 2013
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It also depends on the game being developed itself. Developers are not going to make a game do 60fps just because they can. It depends if it fits the game their working on. 30 fps is the frame rate that has always been used the most since 3D gaming started. Even the PS1 did 60fps, but only with a few games, the rest were done with 30. The CBE in the PS3 is capible of doing 120fps, but we won’t see it due to the way the hardware is set up.
I remember a couple of years ago when I’d sarcastically joke that maybe we’ll see GT6 on the PS3 – after the PS4 launches. Sigh…
@JackC8
Was that on the forum? lol I remember someone saying that lol.
Maybe GT6 will be released for both (PS3 & PS4) consoles? I expect the PS4 to be able to play PS3 games with full functionality of all online content.
I highly doubt you could pop in PS3 games in the PS4. You know Sony and how greedy they can be. They took away the pS2 compatibility on the PS3 to keep selling PS2 consoles.
However, I do expect that we can somehow have access to our PSN games on it. There are a lot of PS1 and PS2 classics I can’t live without.
^ It’s not about greed, it’s about keeping the costs down to a minimum.
This has already been stated to NOT be available. There will be streaming through Gaikai, but NO backwards compatibility with the PS3. I hope they change this however, because that’s a ripoff to have to purchase all my PS3 content again to play online in the future once the PS3 servers are cut.
With this tech we may be able to download GT1-GT5 on to the PS4 via the PS Store if PD decide to offer it. If there is no future need to buy a disc because of playing while loading, is GT6 really going to be for PS4? I mean, I pre-ordered my GT5 and have some nice collectors items from my SIGNATURE edition. Is GT6 going to be downloadable and they miss all that marketing merchandise? Or do you think they keep GT6 for PS3 on BluRay and make available another Signature Edition?
The PS4 will still have discs for PS4 games, so no worries there.
SZRT Ice – think back to the arrival of CDs or even DVDs and then Bluray on the market – we all had to buy the films/albums we wanted on those formats too, even if we already had them on vinyl or VHS. It’s all about a better quality, which you can choose to go for, or not.
The PS3 servers will be around for a good long while – that’s a part of what the news item was about.
@ MeanElf:
Understandable. But there’s a sort of comfort in knowing that I can take my disc games to another PS3 console if I chose to do so. But my digital library goes when my PS3 does. And if that happens after PSN is shut down for PS3, I know many, myself included, will be disappointed. Some people have spent a large amount of money on their digital gaming library.
I hear you Ice, but I doubt it’ll happen. On the bright side, the Gaikai costs will be a lot less than buying a replacement disc – at least I’m hoping so ;)
This Gaiki feature has me intrigued. Waiting to see how it actually functions 1st person.
I’d take this as a mistake because I’very read an article on ign that contradicts this, claiming that another sony director has said that all firat party developers are working on PS4 content
IGN says a lot of things.
We’ll only know it when we have the game in our hands. I’m not falling for all the rumors and hype this time. Not after all we went through during GT5’s development.
GT6 on PS4 will happen I bet, no doubt! :D
And GT6 on PS4 is the most logical thing, Toko. however I think that we should take this more calmly. We still don’t even know nothing about GT6 or possible rumors of its release. What if they release it for the PS3? Or even both consoles? Unless the PS4 is as easy to develop on as they say, and PD doubled the speed of GT6’s making and manage to come up with something biger and better than GT5, I think it’s too soon for a new gen GT title.
Honestly, I don’t want to wait another one or two year to only get a half baked GT6 or another B.S like Prologue on PS4. Neither I would like or a full blown GT6 that will take four years to be developed. If I can have a better GT6 now (and yes, it can definitely be better in the same console), I would prefer to have it on PS3 and then I would happily enjoy it during my wait for a massive GT7 in PS4.
Regardless, I will get GT6 no matter what. And if that means getting a new console on release, I will.
You’re right Husky (I think I said it before) I’ll wait for more information first, it’s just I’m really worried. :( I’m mean I don’t mind having GT6 on the PS3 but, the PS4 has so much more, but it’s better to wait first and see what’s up. :) GT7 on PS4 would be cool though. lol
” another sony director has said that all firat party developers are working on PS4 content”
-actually that statement says nothing about these same devs still completing their PS3 projects..
If it’s “close” to being ready, why not on the PS3! Then it will be fully playable on the PS4 through the cloud. Get the volume of the game out there, then add a few PS4-only tweaks and the masses will follow to the new console…
Because that would make people wait before getting a PS4. Giving MS a chance to release their console and compete for single console buyers is not a smart game plan. We need a reason for you to get our console now! Don’t release details too early, or hype will die down. Release at the latest, when people are ready to spend and big purchases are guaranteed. When waiting is less of an option and the spirit of “buy now” is in effect.
Sony would be cutting themselves short competing with themselves.
Side Note: But if GT6 doesn’t have liveries, I’m waiting.
I just would like to know when the dlc comming, because they are bored to tell the news about and did nothing after. Im impatient for the new dlc.
If PD takes 1 more year for gt6 that’s ok but the need more dlc like tracks and a spec 3 then I can wait
I will eat my old fat PS3 40gb if this is true… but it might be a shrewd move… GT6 fall 2013…. followed by GT7 or a GT “game” On the PS4 in spring 2014. That might catch microsoft out!!!
All they would be doing is releasing what GT5 should have been. So to me it is GT5 with the features it didn’t get.
Take forever for GT5 then rush GT6, hilarious.
Have we really been fooled into thinking that 3 YEARS would be a rush..? ouch!
Looking forward to Drivers Club and Project Cars.
Evidently I have been fooled. I’m not the only one.
They started GT6 before the release of GT5
Still annoyed. >:(
This has got to be a slip of the tongue. GT5 is already pushing the limits of the PS3, trying to get a decent improvement with GT6 on the same hardware would an insane thing to do.
too many Gran Turismos, not enough Tourist Trophies.
Too right. I would love to see a new tourist trophy game on the ps3
yeaaaaaaah!! Man I thought I was the only one!
Since I’m stuck on my PS2 now, I’m thinking about coming by the old GT games and now TT…
Im not a tech expert but I know that the ps4 specs are enough to run games in full 1080p and 60 fps with no problem and full 3D right?
If Sony will sell PS4 on loss like they did with PS3 releasing a GT on early days of PS4 is the dumbest move ever for them. GT will increase PS4 sales therefore will increase losses.
They better release another GT for PS3, users will have what they want, two GT for PS3, Sony will gain some easy money before the big PS4 jump.
I think they will probably release it for both consoles as a cross gen game. The more they sell the better. The more consoles they sell the cheaper the production costs become so it would benifit them to release such a big a game as GT6 on PS4.
It’d certainly be a nice surprise. I keep hearing that GT5 is tapping out the limits of the PS3, but I’m not so sure if I buy that argument. I mean how much space is burned with all the repetitive standard-model cars? There are tons of places where gameplay and/or content could be streamlined and improved, enough so that you could squeeze a lot more content into the platform they have now. Whether or not Denny’s comments will bear out, given the (correct) observations of others on the board that releasing GT6 ONLY for the PS4 would drive console sales, let alone the fact that I’ve heard that the new system architecture doesn’t support reverse compatibility (suggesting that releasing the title for both consoles would require two almost completely different versions).
That said, getting at least two titles in per console iteration would be a nice return on investment, both for Sony and for its users. Not to mention the fact that maintaining the solvency (and relevance) of the PS3 might be fiscally necessary for Sony Computer Entertainment to mitigate the losses they’ll take on the PS4 through its first few years of its life.
Certainly going to hope that this rumor proves true, but as the article (and several previous users) points out, there are a ton of reasons why this wouldn’t happen. Still going to hope that this is true, though!
Kaz said PS4 is like a blank canvas this mean he is going to rave about weird stuff in the next 3 years. I rather have GT6 on PS3 now. People that will buy PS4 waiting for GT5 are the same people that bought PS3 day one waiting for GT5.
You have to learn the lesson or you’ll learn the hard way.
I mean, People that will buy PS4 waiting for GT6.
I’ll be buying a PS4 just as soon as GT6/7 is released. If they pull it off as a launch title, I’m in, but I’m not doing what I did with the PS3, buying the console then waiting AGES for GT to come along.
Really? One of the biggest titles Sony have and they are gonna relsease it for an obsolete console instead of their new one? Give me a break. This is gonna be a huge blunder for Sony. They need some must have titles for PS4 when It gets released, or will PS4 user have to wait 4 years to get GT7 instead? Remember when PS2 was released in late 2000? Gran Turismo 3 came around half a year after in summer of 2001 and I think that had a big impact on the sales of PS2. Sony are shooting themselfes in their legs if they are gonna stick with this decision.
There isn’t any reason to go nuts over this. We had these “leaks” from Sony execs for literally years before GT5 released. Most of them ended up being inccorect.
When PD/Sony get on the same page and start releasing solid information, like set release dates, and related details, then we can get wound up, lol.
Of course, no telling when they will actually start getting official about the release. Kaz may just mumble on occasionally about the game being mostly finnished for the next few years……
So the first story today is PD is an integral member of hardware development for PS4. The second story of the day is GT6 is coming to PS3. These are not necessarily, but sure seem like contradictory stories.
That said, I do hope GT6 comes to PS3. GT is the only reason I bought a PS3. Sure, there are about two other games I play very infrequently on. I play GT5 almost every day. I don’t really want to buy a new console for one game. But (I shouldn’t say this here) I will buy a PS4 just for GT6 if that is what it comes to.
Like someone said below, I think it is feasable that GT6 comes to PS3. The physics and gameplay are frankly excellent. I honestly don’t see a need for a newer system in that regard. (More RAM probably means faster load times though. That would be nice.) What would improve the game in my eyes:
-An update to the car list with new models, and premium versions of existing models
-More tracks. Old PD tracks and real tracks (SEBRING! Isle of Man, Nardo, Newer F1 circuits, etc etc etc, Bathurst)
-Better filtering options for online room control
-Better (as in actual existence of) race control system. Flags, pace car, etc. Kinda like iRacing and others.
-Other types of racing that used to exist, ie drag strip, gymkhana/autocross, awesome Test Track
I think that is about it. Perhaps open world driving, but that really doesn’t rattle my shaker.
So a flag system might be the hardest thing to implement, but I don’t think impossible on PS3. The other stuff is just content.
I don’t see it as contradictory at all, you have one team working on GT6 and another working on the development for the new console.
You forgot to mention . dont brake in front of me you stupid AI!!!!!!!!!!!
If PD wants to sell a lot of copies of GT6, PS3 is the right option.
I think you, sir, got the point.
Economy is under stress nowadays. The transition from the PS3 to the PS4 will be slow, talking about clients. Big hats from Sony probably made surveys and stuff like that next to costumers, and realized those clients are not willing invest in a new console just because of a game, so GT6 wouldn’t be that much of a push to PS4 sales. Making a game like GT6 may cost something like 60 to 75 millions. So, if they released GT6 as a launch game for PS4,as few people already would have the console, they would sell a small number of copies, and therefore PD and Sony would be taking the risk of not generating enough income to pay the game development and profit to show to the investors. I think they are not willing to take any risks with a blockbuster like GT, as every company nowadays, and that’s just it.
I bet they are already developing Gt7 on full throttle, alongside with GT6. Probably the first will be a refined and richer version of GT6. But they will expect something like until 1.5 or 2 years after ps4 to launch it, giving time to people to make the transition to PS4 and therefore selling much more copies.
Time for PD / Sony to kill the gossip – and confirm!
What happens if its released on both… the online aspect will take a huge hit. DLC already causes a pretty excessive divide and they are only a couple of dollars every 3-4 months. Imagine having to buy a new platform to play with the entire community. Its unlikly the two systems will be able to communicate on the same servers together (still uncertain whether they will play the same game – legacy PS3) so you would split the audience and most likely alienating the PS4 until the next release (GT7).
Shouldn’t the title read “Sony Executive Says GT6 Will Come to PS3”? His quote seems pretty solid in that it’s coming to the current system.
people do make mistakes, when you here it from a second you have better evidence and when it finally comes from the horses ass I’d say you can confirm it.
I think it would be a good idea. They are going to sell well as so many people already have a PS3. I think PS4 will sell well, but a lot of people are not going to have the money to buy a PS4 right out of the gate. And if PS4 is going to be a 10 year console, it won’t hurt in the long run as GT7 will probably come out 2 years into the cycle. By that time, a second generation of PS4 will be out and many more people will own it because of a likely price drop.
That depends on the price point of the PS4. Because if rumors are true, a PS4 may be easier to acquire than expected. (Expected range around $450 usd) That’s $12.50 a week until Nov. (PS4’s expected release month) not including tax. Save up kiddies!
lets try…
2013: GT6 – PS3
2013: GTAcademy ’13 on GT6 – PS3
2014: GTAcademy ’14 on PS4 – Mini-Game preview (prologue) of GT7.
2015: GT7 – PS4
GTAcademy could be the key ?
If they do a release on both consoles, Im sure there will be some kickass feature only on the next gen version that will make it depressing to play on PS3. kinda like motorcycles in TDU only available on 360 and PS3 for example. sigh.
So I’m a dreamer eh? What do you think now, i told you there was a good chance GT6 was coming to PS3. This will be my final comment on this troll infested joke of a community ;)
ah dammit… he got us all :(
I wouldn’t say this community id “troll infested”, although it has become quite chaotic since the announcement of the PS4.
This is not an official announcement smart guy.
and I hope that GT6 will be on PS4, the only reason I want that is because there will be no leap.. since ps3 is out of juice long time ago (even if people disagree, it is how it is)… ps4 could bring that much more for our community in both graphics and physics, also gameplay.. GT6 on ps3 is a waste of time…
talking about all that, its 90% that GT6 will be on both, ps3 and ps4…. that would make everyone happy!! and all PD have to do is downgrade PS4 GT6 version to worse looking ps3 version…
Kaz has already been referenced praising how easy the PS4 is to work with. Being an in-house dev’ for Sony, I’m sure he’s had a developer’s kit for years now. GT is created on PC and tweaked for home consoles, so it starts out uncapped, and then is modified down to spec.
I’m sure there are PS4 quality versions of GT5 already, all he has to do is add to and improve on what’s already there, change some interface functionalities and put a nice shine on the version stored on their PC’s.
With that said, and seeing as Kazunori, has already claimed to have 1st hand experience with the PS4, has said his desires for GT5 was too much for current gen hardware, and that it would be virtually easier (which also means faster) to produce a GT game for PS4 (as apposed to the processing chopping & what not required for a PS3 version, and believing that it would be foolish to work on GT7 before GT6 and the rumoured Vita version are even released, I believe without a shadow of a doubt the next GT title will be for PS4. Does that dismiss a PS3 version? No, but there will be a GT this fall for PS4. Maybe it will not be called GT6. “Gran Turismo Evolution” maybe? Time will tell. But it’s coming. I can smell it.
PD give us the trailer for GT6 already ! ! !
Why? So that you all can Nit Pick holes in the graphics , sounds and gameplay from a video?
Im pretty sure they have said that they cant fix the dodgy blocky shadows in an update, and can you imagine how much space an update would take if it included premium models for 700+ cars? Im thinking lots of Gigabytes.
Exactly. There are some things that just cannot be done in an update or through DLC for GT5. Which is why a new sequel is needed on the PS3.
GRAN TURISMO 6 WILL ON PS3 in 2013/2014!!! FUUUU PS4 will GT7 we wait next 2-3 years this.
So GT6 on PS3 this year or next and then GT7 a year later or the year after?! I think you have lost the plot no offence but it is crazy :)
I’m sorry, but one of Sony’s biggest titles on outdated hardware directly before or even AFTER release of revolutionary new hardware…? After Sony lost so much money on the PS3, even with it’s ridiculous price…?
As nice as it would be (for the the consumers pocket), I don’t see ANY logic from either Sony or PD, especially after what Kaz and so many other developers have said about the PS4’s easy architecture.
I think it´s not a good idea to put GT6 on PS3. PD said the reached the Limit of the performance of the PS3.
So what would be better on GT6?
– the AI, more premium cars, more real life tracks, better a-spec ond online races?
Those things they could fix them just with an update of GT5 via DLC, or not?
On PS2 they had to bring a new version on disc, ´cos they couldn´t update the game online.
Now they can.
So PD just update GT5 and than take care of GT6 on PS4.
Than we can enjoy GT5 until GT6 is relesed and the PS4 is affordable for everyone.
PLS excuse my bad writing, ;)
Not all of these things can be fixed through an update or DLC. Also, most of the main problems with GT5 can be fixed without the need for newer hardware.
Most actually can, it’s just a more difficult to do, and doing this will DESTROY your Hard Drive. I mean, just from the updates alone, It’s filled about a FOURTH of my 80GB drive. This isn’t including the initial data file, and I haven’t even done the 6GB install to improve performance. In order for this to be reasonable, we need 500 gigs or MORE, and an easier development platform…
Wait a minute, that sounds a lot like the PS4…
But in all honesty, games are getting bigger and bigger, and eventually, unless a higher-capacity Blue-Ray disk or some sort of SD card is harnessed, we’re going to have to deal with downloading games on to our HD’s in the near future. The PS4 is rumored to have a 500GB drive, which I don’t think is enough for online downloading like we see today on the PS3 – a few terabytes or so would seem necessary. About two years ago I could buy a high-speed and VERY reliable 1.5 TB drive for about $150-200 (but I won one instead – long story), so now it would seem something like that could easily be used in the PS4, and for reasonably cheap.
I already have 500GB on my PS :)
I actually hope its true, personally im not interested in the next generation of gaming.
Im thinking if this will be like what happened from GT2-4. GT2 had loads of cars, tracks and content, the jump to PS2 gave us GT3, which had far less content due to them not having enough time(GT5). GT4 more than made up for it, ive got a feeling GT6 will be this generations GT4, if you get what i mean.
Upvote!
I wonder if GT6 on the PS3/Vita will be the low res PS4 version. I’m thinking GTPSP was a scaled down version of GT4, so it wouldn’t it be possible to provide the same game with better textures?
I dunno. If we’ve learned anything from recent corss-platofrm releases, it more about the game than the platform, and a lot more about online communities than ever.
(As suggested already in this thread) I see no reason that GT6 shouldn’t be released on both PS3 and PS4. Being able to compete no matter what your hardware is doesn’t seem to have ever been a problem for PC users, does it?
Okay, so the PS4 guys are going to have greater gfx/sound thrills, but at the level PS3/GT5 is already at?.. I wouldn’t miss out much. GT6 would get much, much, *much* lower revenue if it were only released for PS4. I think both PD and Sony know that all too well.
Classic PD, wrong choices…
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Polyphony Digital does NOT decide what system the GT series goes to. They are completely owned by Sony, therefore Sony decides what platform PD developes its games for, not PD.
If GT6 is ONLY being made for PS3, then it is Sony’s decision and PD will just have to deal with it.
I personally think its a mistake. Its too late in PS3’s life cycle and too close to PS4’s launch NOT to have GT6 as one of its first titles to boost its sales.
Or, this guy is wrong… Why would he blatantly mention a title that hasn’t been officially unveiled, or previewed in any way…? We only know of the game’s existence from Kaz’s mentioning of minor development details and other leaks.
Nothing “official”, per say. And it would seem that a Sony executive capable of not realizing that would also be capable of mentioning the wrong game by mistake.
I’d rather see it on PS4 then PS3 because that means well have to wait longer to see a GT game on PS4, unless they release a PS4 and PS3 version simultaneously.
Don’t forget… If GT6 comes on PS3, PS4 should have a GT7 Prologue. Judging by the way devs are talking about PS4, it will be very easy to go ahead and make a game for it. Seeing as they will not have any boundaries in the beginning they can just keep pushing and pushing things, polys on cars, physics, etc. Then release it as a prologue and see if people like it. If it were a perfect world and this is all dependant on GT6’s release; I’d say GT6 this November on PS3, GT7 Prologue on PS4 November 2014 or early 2015. We can make fun of PD all we want, but the physics engine and stuff is fine on GT5 and to be honest, it wouldn’t take too long to develop the next game when you already have a base game.
I’m going to say GT6 on PS3. Judging by the sales of the Vita and Wii U, things aren’t looking to bright for gaming right now. Sony has obviously made sure that PS3 will have some life left in it while the PS4 hits the market. I mean, DUST 514 has so many skills to get and equipment to purchase and it’s still only in Beta. They plan on using these games to keep PS3 alive. As is Rockstar by releasing GTA V on current gen being well aware next gen is this year. People aren’t ready to go into next generation. Yes, we need new consoles but not everybody cares about graphics. Another big pointer, PS2 games are STILL being made today, not just small titles, games like NBA 2K13 and such. As with Call of Duty, they will most likely port down a PS3/360 version of their newest because it’s counter-productive not to. Judging by the number of people watching the PS4 stream the other day, yeah there’s a handful interested.
Guys .. Don’t forget GT ACADEMY 2013 , that it will be release on PS3 … 100%
PD could make GT academy 2013 inside GT6 and not on a minigame like 2012.
Anyway GT6/PS3 = good deal for Users!
I think that GT Academy 2013 will be the Key!
I dont want GT ACADEMY 2013!!!!
Why you don’t want GTAcademy ? … It’s one of the best thing made by PD !
@Angel. my meaning is, i dont want the Mini-game GT Academy (the stuff we have to download and have only Nissan cars)
GT6 released for PS3 and 1 year later released on PS4 with much updated graphics and more cars, all premiums and some kind of car and track creation tool.. Still equals fail because fans will be so much more wary this time around.
With the announcement that the PS4 isn’t backwards compatible, that all but confirms GT6 for the PS3. It makes sense though, the immediate PS4 install base won’t be that high so the sales would suffer, expect a kind of demo though for sure.
Incase you didn’t see the stream, all games from previous consoles will be obtainable for the ps4. And another note, it makes sense for it to be released on ps4. It’s hard to imagine polyphony not being given an early version of the platform to work on the new game, especially since they are part of Sony’s game productions. How else would we have Ubisoft are also working closely with Sony, who have a preview of watch dogs which looks great? And drive club from another group. Obviously they are just keeping GT6 under wraps. Fingers crossed that they actually program intelligent AI, because IMO, that is one of their weaknesses.
It could come out for both systems technically but with such a small team and having to develop on both platforms i’m not so sure.
I am sure it will come out on PS4 as a system seller.
But if it did come out on both who would want the PS3 version when you see what the PS4 version looks like.
Don’t get me wrong, it would still sell millions on PS3 but you’d always have the knowledge that you’re playing the inferior version.
But whatever, a new GT is a new GT and thats reason enough to celebrate
I have a feeling this could be like when NFS:Prostreet came out, dumbed down for the PS2, but full HD and DLC for the PS3
Was thinking the same, only I thought of Undercover..
One of the few people here that seems to realize it could be on BOTH systems…
I would rather see it on PS3. I don’t have the money right now for a $600 console, but a $60 game I can manage. Hopefully I will have enough when it is released at the end of the year.
It makes me laugh when people moan about a home console that are now basically multimedia PC’s costing over £300 but they don’t bat an eyelid at paying £500 for an overrated and overpriced iPhone and wearing overrated and overpriced beats headphones
If it’s $600 USD; I’ll be shocked to be honest. It’s using AMD components and those are usually cheap in price. And this is an APU, it’s saving a lot of developmental and production costs by throwing the GPU and CPU into one chip. I’m going to say $400 USD for the entry model console. This time around they’re using a 6x Blu-Ray Drive and not a 2x, which is miles better and you will see faster load times and no more installing games that take up a lot of space on the disc. The drive is Sony made I believe so no worries in cost there and since it will be a better drive and surpassing speeds of a 16x DVD drive by a little then it will be no problem to launch and entry level console with flash memory on it. Xbox currently does it because they never are required to install games, so a 4-8GB flash memory console could very well be $400. My laptop has an APU, it was only $379 brand new. It has a 640GB hard drive, quad core and can play most games pretty good. Take away the screen and such that the PS4 wouldn’t have and that’s pretty cheap.
@phil_75, I don’t have an iPhone or Beats headphones either. I have a Walkman mp3 player & Sony headphones. Most of my electronics are Sony products because they are well made & just as good as iPods. But paying that much for a console seems ridiculous, especially since we don’t know any major details like durability, memory space, etc.. If the base model PS4 is only 40gb & costs $600, then I will just wait until it goes up in memory or down in price.
The amount of space on the hard disk drive will be 160GB. Read the freakin’ official specs.
I did. & this article mentions 8gb of unified memory, not 160gb
That really doesn’t seem like enough – it’s apparent that online downloads is where the game industry is headed, and considering that GT5 takes up 15+ GB in update data, (most conventional PS3 games to download are around 2-5 GB), and PS4 games are obviously going to be quite a bit larger. 500GB is even looking a bit small to me… I’m thinking multi-TB is where it should be, and it’s reasonably cheap to do that now. I have SD cards smaller than the size of my thumb nail that hold 32 GB each, and 64 GB models exist as well. (about $60 a pop, though… So I’m not saying use a stack of SD’s). You can get a very good quality 1 or 2 TB desktop drive for around $100 these days.
Standards on PS3
and Premiums on PS4 hahahaha
I see what you did there. XD Hopefully all standards will have been converted to premiums which will then be the new standard come the PS4 launch. Nevertheless, this is great news! Hopefully we will be able to transfer some or most of our cars to GT6.
Couldn’t agree more
Dang…..
I think that GT6 will come out for both consoles and that the PS3 will get a scaled down version of it
I think: GT6 is to 85-95% finished.
PD now has seen what the PS4 can do, and they must create a complete new Game…
And the Little Gamer is fooled again…
Waiting two Years for GT7…. ;)
They aren’t gonna pick up and jump the bandwagon and leave PS3 behind, so they are gonna do what they have started and as for PS4 will have its new title…. its how business run.
You may be right there!! what ever happens I won’t be buying a ps4 at realease like I did with the ps3 as I got completely sucker punched.
I wonder if Michael said that on purpose to make us go nuts or speculate… Still want GT6 on PS4, not that (old and difficult to make games) PS3!!!
GT6 for PlayStation Fouree!! :D
Bull:censored: that would be the stupidest move ever for pd to make. I garentee this will not happen. It would separate the drivers from people who have Ps4 and people who still have ps3. This equation would equal a EPIC Failure!!!!
Sorry, the only way you could guarantee this is if you were a highly placed person at Sony or PD. They might plan to release on both consoles, recognising that not everyone will go for a 4 straight away.
Sure that would seperate the people playing the game, but not everyone is in a position to buy one and this way they can still get to play. Strange…but there is some logic to it.
yessss
GT6 will come for the PS4.
Michael Denny just asked to fast and just said GT6, like he could said Forza5 ;)
There should have been some form of retraction by now though – if true, I bet Kazunori san is miffed at this guy.
Nah, they’ve had false rumors before, and not made retractions, so it’s not really any kind of indicator of being true or false. Only time will tell.
I also doubt Kaz gets miffed about it. Not like this is the first time somebody wound up the fan base by casually throwing out a bit of info like this. Serves has good hype, even if the info proves false.
Only problem is if they do a GT5, and wind everyone up to the point of screaming, “Just release it already!…”. Sony gets nervous, and starts pushing a release again, and no good will come of it.
It seems that very few people can grasp the concept that GT6 is capable to be released on BOTH consoles…
If they’re having GT6 on the PS3, and PS4 is coming out at the end of the year, don’t they sort of have to release it in the next two or three months for that to make any sense at all? Otherwise you might as well just port it as a release PS4 title.
I very much doubt that, the PS4 has been designed to be easy to program for. But that creates a problem, cell games just won’t work on PS4. GT6 will have been designed for the PS3 and it would take huge code re wright to get it running on PS4. I reckon a demo will be shown showing what GT can look like on the PS4.
You people have no idea what is going to happen until it happens IRL so these “I’m 100% sure that thiisss will happen” have no truth or meaning to them. It’s quite annoying honestly.
It won’t.
Been saying it from day one. Makes no since to me that GT6, in which production started before PS4 development, would be intended for Sony’s newest platforms.
^ When exactly did the PS4’s development start…?
In the last article, it was shown that PD worked heavily with the PS4’s conceptualization. So, in which case, PD could have gotten a head start on GT6 WELL before any other developer on any other game, since they were going to play a part in the selection of hardware. Considering the difficult architecture of the PS3, this would make sense. It would give LOADS of time for development, and they wouldn’t have to deal with difficult code environments.
This is my speculation. I could be wrong. But, considering how loosely this guy spat out the words “GT6”, without considering the fact that no official announcements have ever been made on the title, he could have very well mistaken it with one of the many other PS games that are up-and-coming. And considering GT is one of Sony’s longest lasting and most successful series, I’d think that they would want it on their newest hardware to push sales for the new console. It’s one of the few games that I could see Sony hesitant on releasing for both the PS3 and PS4.
Well since PD have had a say in PS4 hardware IMO GT6 will be released on both platforms. Not releasing it on 1 or the other will just harm sales.
Why buy a PS4 at launch if GT6 is PS3 only? I’m buying a PS4 at launch and if GT6 is only PS3 even tho I have one I won’t pick it up. GT6 on both platforms and I’d likely but a PS4 (just for GT6) – Although I’m getting one anyway….
I’m 100% sure now. You remember when some years ago, with an interview about dlc and updates, kazunori said that he was actually on gt6 and that these things couldn’t be anymore on updates because it will be different…
I hope i hope!!!
If PD were to release GT6 on the PS3 they have needed to a while ago provided the rumors of the release date of the PS4 being later this year being true. To release GT6 on the PS3 just months from the “non-backwards compatible” PS4 would be disastrous for Sony.
If GT6 does appear only on the PS4, you should be able to play it via the cloud facility run by Gaikai – but presumably you also have a PS3, so no need.
HAHA! It could’ve been a slip or he mistaken GT for GTA. Regardless the console, I just want to play the next GT. If it’s for PS3 then it’s perfect! then I won’t have to spend on a new console just yet and then wait years for it to be released. There are a lot of things that could make the game better, and graphics or more cars is not one of them. GT5 already looks perfect in my opinion. Just look at how crappy that Forza game looks in comparison and how much more fun it is for car enthusiasts. Or forget Forza, let’s remember GT2! it was for PS1 and still beats GT5 in every single aspect, except for physiscs and graphics.
If it’s for the PS4, then awesome. I want to see how much they are able to improve the visuals, because right now I see GT5 and simply cannot think on how much better they can get other than a little details that aren’t really noticeable. However, what i fear is that if it’s for PS4, due to the fact that that the PS4 works different and they would basically need to create a new engine for the game, it might be an incomplete experience again. Although I hope I’m wrong.
But again, regardless the console, GT6 will be a priority purchase for me. Although personally, I would be very happy if GT6 is released for the PS3. Knowing how much PD has heard us fan’s requests, intelligent feedback, constructive criticism and also how familiar they might be with the game engine and all the material they already have from GT5, I’m sure it will be a beast of a game, and easily developed too. Heck, I’m sure it would be the best Gran Turismo ever. And the best thing? they will have time to work on a PS4 GT7 and keep us well entertained for years.
I’m with you. At this point I could careless, I’m ready for a new GT regardless on what platform. If its on PS3, I’m going to buy it, if its on PS4, I’m going to buy it.
Drive Club is how much better the visuals can get. And considering that GT5 turns on the cooling system on my PS3 within 10 minutes (at least before it broke), the hardware really struggles with what it already did. While I understand that many people won’t be able to afford a PS4 right away, I really think it’ll help PD out (and in the end, the fans/consumers) if it’s only ported for that console. As I’ve stated quite a bit now, the architecture on the PS3 isn’t very easy to write on, and it would streamline PD’s creativity to use the simple and familiar architecture of the PS4.
And I 100% agree that this could’ve been a slip of the tongue – considering that he mentioned GT6, a game that hasn’t been officially announced or unveiled.
Noooo, boooo
Its obvious the PS4 will get it, but I really hope its on PS3 as well with the ability to vs PS4 players. Bring GT6 to both Platforms PD!!!
Bet it’s on the PS4 platform
This makes “some” sense to me.
Comments were made a long time ago that GT6 was started during GT5 dev or right at release. Dump it on PS3 for one last big sale. Launch DriveClub on PS4 to boost sales of the new system without competing against GT6 directly. Release GT7 Prologue after DC starts to slow down a bit and then follow with GT7 once sales of PS4 start to “normalize” a bit and coincide with the first tier price cut.
Personally I think some of that math makes sense.
In addition to that im sure there are plenty of people in the same boat as me not being able to afford a new system no matter how bad we want it until the 3rd price cut.
They would get more $ from us up front with one last release on the current gen hardware.
When will the day come that only one platform is used (from separate companies) and they make part upgrades….? That is what will create a hard and stable market to go against the PC…
R18 TDI e-Tron!!! PUT ITIN Gran Turismo 5 already!!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the Toyota TS030, actually I would rather have the TS030
they should both be in the game along with the Lola LMP1 car and Nissan Deltawing.
The DaltaWing project is no longer funded or owned by Nissan… So I don’t think the DeltaWing will make it, unless PD have already began modeling it…
It really disappointed me when I found this out…
We really do need more premium LMP’s, and some more livery options. But I’m more interested in GT6, where we can have a clean slate on everything.
It would follow the previous trend of releasing two generations per platform (GT & GT2 on PSOne, GT3 and GT4 on PS2). The second generation had more cars and made greater use of the graphical abilities of the platforms as well, so… GT6 on PS3 could be pretty spectacular
I think GT6 will be released a year after the PS4 is released.
If Drive Club is released in the PS4 release window then I can’t see Sony releasing another exclusive driving game at the same time.
I do stress the “if” because it isn’t certain that Drive Club will be a release window title.
YES! Have GT6 on PS3! If not, then everyone has to go and blow another $ 500 for the system!
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Controversy, its always good to keep the fans interested.
I thought it was supposed to come out for the Xbox Wii U 1080?
Just wait for GT7 to be released on PS4. You’ve all seen Driveclub, we know that the PS4 has potential. Let them get on. I’d like to see what changes they make using the PS3’s last bit of juice.
Completely agree with your point. I think that developing a new game for a new console from scratch won’t do good for PD after teh harsh criticism that GT5 had. I’d say they release it for PS and keep us entertained while we wait for a GT7 in the PS4. That way they will have a lot of time to know the PS4 better and polish every single aspect of the game while we have fun enjoying GT6 for the next 3 years or so.
It doesn’t matter which console it’s released on, I’ll be buying it regardless.
Don’t be a sucker..
Pls be true Pls be true Pls be true
He probably said it by accident it happens people, GT6 is definitely for PS4 ONLY
No it can be for ps3 also remember when the ps3 came out, they were still making ps2 games. You need to wait! :(
GT6 will def be on ps3 so there
For the sake of saving money and being able to play it sooner, a PS3 release would be nice; but for the sake of playing a more advanced game on a more advanced system, a PS4 release would be better. So I’m up in the air on this one.
Maybe it’ll be released on both consoles like other games?
This is a possibility. I can sympathize with the PS3 crowd wanting something for an existing system that already works well and looks terrific. Except that GT5 really needed more than the system could deliver. Still, what will they say if this is the case, and PS4 gets a better version? Maybe a much better version? And then, what if it’s only PS3, but SONY has PD produce a GT6.5 for PS4 in a year?
I expect backpeddling rather than an explanation, but I guess we’ll see…
Why would GT6 be on PS3 when PS4 is gonna be released this fall?
For the same odd reason that GTA5 will be released for the PS3.
How do we know that GTA V won’t be on both the 7th and 8th generation consoles…? Has there been any statement that it won’t…?
If GT6 will be released on ps3 i’ll be happy :) , i hope then GT6 has all the cars in GT5 ( there must be all premium car, so PD has to convert Standard to premium), all the tracks and also the old tracks (midfield, seattle, apricot hill, complex string, and other)
Also, another thing to improve , is the online race..
If PD make a Gran Turismo like i said , GT6 will be the best GT game ever..
if its on PS4
Why do people don’t understand that making GT6 for the PS3 doesn’t mean it needs to be bigger or have more cars… just because GT5 supposedly pushes the PS3 to it’s limits or has 1000 cars, it doesn’t mean that GT6 needs better graphics or more cars to be a better game. There are a lot of things that can be changed or rearranged. I’ve always though that GT5 is a mass of awesome ideas poorly organized, prioritized and executed.
600+ unique premium cars with all manufacturers having more than 20 cars (when possible) with no repetitions. More tracks. A career mode with a reward system equal or similar to GT4’s, manufacturer events, more events that make more sense with the right choice of tracks, A.I that doesn’t brake at the middle of the corner, some cars only available through events (again, with the same redo options of GT4), more RM and body kits, make B-Spec like it was in GT4, ditch the race suits and chip system, or at least make chips purchasable in-game. Little things like that would make a better game and a great GT6. And not necessarily would be bigger and harder on the PS3 than GT5 already is.
^ Yes. THAT is what’s needed. What I think really pushes the PS3 is the engine – the amount of smoke, lighting, and deformation is a LOT for the PS3’s hardware to handle. Try making a custom track with jumps, take NASCARS or Rally cars and see how the frame-rate drops as all of the cars spin out and collect damage. I’m amazed that there isn’t too much frame-rate drop during heavy lighting change and weather. What PD will be able to do on PS4 is obviously improve detail (as seen in Drive Club), but I don’t think that’s necessary. They already have enough detail in their premium cars. What they need to do is sort out the glitchy shadows. Take a car out for a spin on SS Route 7 in the rain. THAT is impressive detail. PD should focus more on advanced lighting, and other physics aspects rather than visuals (except for lighting, which is part of the physics engine). I’m talking mostly about aero functionality. A car doesn’t become unstable at high speeds in GT5 – the game’s engine only determines how much pressure is occurring on the front and back of the car. PD can up that part of the engine, as well as the tire model, which is quite lacking. As long as permissions are available, the PS4’s new hardware will allow MUCH more realistic and detailed damage modeling without degraded performance. That’s where PD can improve, and with so much more ease on the PS4’s simple architecture. So for that reason, I think it’s a better idea for GT6 on PS4, along with marketing for the new hardware.
Unless PD has made too much progress on a GT6 for PS3.
Noooooooooo!!! please Kaz save GT6 for the PS4
Word up. GT6 will have to be gimped somewhere to keep the physics intact, and then polish up the dodgy graphics.
I’ve said it for awhile now.
PS1 = GT & GT2, GT2 was basically a slightly upgraded GT
PS2 = GT3 & GT4 with GT4 being little more then an upgraded GT3
PS3 = GT5 & GT6 with GT6 being nothing more then a slightly upgraded GT5
It’s how Sony/PD does things so it shouldn’t come as a surprise to anybody.
Except neither GT2 or GT4 released after the PS2 and PS3 launched, respectively. Also, neither GT or GT3 released LATE into a console’s lifetime.
Exactly. Unless they’ve changed marketing strategies, and intend on bringing GT6 over to the PS4 via an update perhaps Spec 2 or something, then I can’t see why it won’t be on the PS3. It would give it one last hura.
Plus, as the economy stands at the minute GT6 on PS4 tied with Vita would be much more cost effective for everyone. Not just consumers.
LOL
He just misinterpreted. And so, this is going by one fella’s word. How is this even worthy of a news post ?
Well… because he’s a SONY executive, and he DID say it. And with PS4 coming out this year, that’s sure news. I’m hoping it was a slip of the tongue and not an “inadvertent” admission.
I won’t believe till Kaz says it
^ Yeah, really, I’m just waiting for that as well.
Pffft.. if PS3 is really on its last legs, then GT6 is PS4
Liar!! Need to hear an actual answer from Kaz.
+1
When GT6 is released and I have a copy in hand, then I will see if I need a new platform…but not before!
I really hope this isn’t true, with the PS4 right around the corner there’s no way they’d release GT6 at the end of PS3’s life.
Why are we trusting this guy? No offense but he seems clueless.
Thats the right piece of information that I am looking for. This is what I want to hear from the Sony exceutive, so that I can tell my face book friends that I have defeated the Play Station 4 rumors. They want win. PlayStation 3 will get Gran Turismo 6. For ps4 rumors, Shut the hell up!!!
Why not on the ps4. You’re talking about a game that has to last a long time. If gt6 is just like gt5 how will it last untill gt7 comes out lol.. Also my PS3 is dying on me. I wont be able to afford a ps4 and a new ps3 just for gt6
Nothing’s official yet. Just wait until we know for certain. Then you will know wich one to buy :)
Hope your ps3 survives till then :)
I hope they build the PS4 to last longer than PS3’s do – they die to easily. :(
Gran Turismo 5 Epilogue on PS3 and GT6 on PS4. Calling it now.
Don’t get excited. In the middle of all the hype and pressure, her might have got confused and said the wrong thing. By the time he realized what he had said, it was already too late.
Don’t jump to conclusions so soon guys.
Assetto Corsa is too good so I will not buy a PS4, if PD deliver GT6 on PS3 I’m on it before the big jump in Assetto Corsa!
Isn’t that a PC based game? I don’t even understand why people who can afford a high-end gaming PC even bother with console games like GT. There’s obviously no comparison.
Many people here struggle with the thought of a PS4 purchase. How much must I spend for a PC of the latest standard? And how often does it need an upgrade in hardware, to be able to run latest software?
Please, no! Enough of this, Sony executives!
If GT6 is going to be on PS3, then it’s pretty certain to be out in the next 9 months.
I agree, although I wouldn’t put it past PD to release a brand new game for a dead-and-gone console.
I Hope so, no need to buy ps4 till GT7 , and they could work on it for years to give us the best GT ever on Ps4.
PD looks like far away to realase GT6 on PS4 in 2014… I think they are not ready.
I’d rather pay for a new console plus peripherals and a finished game altogether, than wasting 60$ for a ‘new’ game that only kind of fixes the lacks of its unfinished predecessor. Because that would have been achievable through updates!
GT6 on PS3? Better be a hughe step forward from GT5.
– Many many upgraded standards
– no standards!!!
– tire pressure
– real tire physic simulation
– brake upgrade
– Many many tracks, new and originals
– engine swaps, realistic (and within company, like Ford-Mercury-Lincoln, Volkswagen-Audi-Seat etc. no Hyundai’s with Bugatti engine)
– livery editor and body kits (No need for PDI-fantasy RM’s)
– an AI that reaches from Ralf Schumacher (weak, tends to bounce you off the track) to his brother Michael in his best days (really hard to catch up)
etc. etc.
But then we also expect this blank canvas to be filled with some artwork soon…
PDI can’t make everybody happy, especially now with this PS4 situation…
I would not want to be in their shoes right now.
Lets try not to turn every GT6 discussion in to a personal wishlist.
lol if this was a wishlist it would take a whole page! That isn’t a wishlist, its an expectation! Again, if GT6 is a 60$ Spec3 they have some customers lost.
OK..SOOOO…this should be called gt”complain”planet cuz all people do it complain…if it bothers you so much go to school for game design and make a game that you think will be better then gran turismo other then that shut the hell upppp…if you guys sit down and think and use your brains….kaz has done 2 gran turismso games for each system i know i dont need to write them all out but this news is not a surprise to me that the are actually thinking about putting out 2 gran turismo’s on the ps3…it would be a smart move so then they work on something even better for the ps4 kaz is going to be like a kid in a candy shop with the ps4 platfrom so he might as well throw gt6 on the ps3
I wouldnt advise you to post like this. I’ve already got an infraction for posting like you just did. I agree with you but I must keep my opinion to myself and leave everybody else voice their opinion.
Always stop reading as soon has I see, “if it bothers you so much go to school for game design and make a game that you think will be better then gran turismo other then that shut the hell upppp”, or any variation there of.
Just means the poster has no real argument, and the maturity of a six year old…
@steve30x thanks for the warning but it doesnt scare me i post what i feel like saying what can they do? cancel my account on here lol..but thanks for agreeing with me on some point..@NA you must have kept reading since you posted on what i said..didnt know i was trying to put up a arguement i just put up my opinion..ooo by the way i have the maturity of a 27 yr old….
“..@NA you must have kept reading since you posted on what i said”
Ehh, no I didn’t read any further, nor did I comment on anything you said after your “Wah wah, go make your own game!” comment. Thanks for demonstrating my point though.
I read the title far too quickly and thought it said “GT6 coming May” XD *facepalm*
Trololololol
I’m looking forward to this. I can’t afford a new console any time soon, so I was fearing I’d miss out on GT6. But I’ll be over the moon if this turns out to be true
My thoughts exactly.
LMAO I said it wrong. Let me try again
Kaz said GT6 will be GT5 with a few additions so if GT6 was to be on the PS4 the game engine would be need to rewritten to work on the PS4 because its completely different hardware. Trying to get a PS3 game working on the PS4 is like a japanese person speaking at a person who doesnt know japanese. The PS4 hardware wouldnt understand what the PS3 software is trying to tell it what to do.
Dude, that’s verbatim.
Kaz said GT6 will be GT5 with a few additions so if GT6 was to be on the PS4 the game engine would be need to rewritten to work on the PS4 because its completely different hardware. Trying to get a PS3 game working on the PS4 is like a japanese person speaking at a person who doesnt know japanese. The PS4 software wouldnt understand what the PS3 software is trying to tell it what to do.
I’m sure this has been said already, but if GT6 comes out on the PS3, then there’s not way I’m gonna waste my money on a PS4
Called that one.
This had better have been some sick mistake…. I would be so disappointed if they pulled that on us.
I find it Funny how before the announcement of the PS4 many were willing to accept another GT title on the PS3, but once the official specs were announced for the next console iteration, everyone is quick to jump onto the bandwagon of that the game must be commercially available on the next unit.
Bang on HarVee. There’s life left on the PS3. People must realize that the next wave of technology is developed FAR before it’s actually released, otherwise there’s no money to be made from it. Milk the existing console. I’m ready for GT6 on PS3, the engine is good. Let ‘er buck.
This.
I’ve been saying that GT6 would likely be a PS4 title for quite some time… And I still believe it will.
But that’s slightly because I’ve ben searching for leaks on PS4 info for about a year and a half… :P
Epic fail, if there is any truth in this. We want a mind blowing next-gen Gran Turismo, not a mediocre one on an outdated console.
Its hard to know. Kaz features in the PS4 meeting talking about the console like he is currently developing on it, can anything be drawn from that?
On the other hand GT6 must be close to finish, so surely it would have featured at the meeting in some form if its a PS4 release. Maybe E3 will reveal, but that feels a long way away.
GT6 must be on the PS4 ’cause the PS4 has got lots of RAM!!!111!!1!
Obvious sarcasm is obvious.
Anything for a laugh!
PLEASE DON’T! Polyphony Digital, GT6 has to develope on PS4!
You talking like GT6 is last Gran Turismo LOL… I just want One more GT game (much complete) to play with until the price of PS4 go down to acceptable value :))
Pure speculation. Being a VP does not mean he knows the latest information. Also the fact that he casually mentioned it shows that he is obviously not part of that working group as this information would not be volunteered casually
I’m not believing anything I hear about GT6 until it is referenced to have come out the mouth of a small Asian man. Preferably an older one who’s name begins with “K”, ends with “I”, and rhymes with “has u no he wanna hoochie?”, Or “How’s you know Rihanna’s… …gucci…?” Eh em… Yeah, that guy.
Takuma Sato??? How is HE involved???
Lolwut?
o_Õ?
I’ll definitely be picking up GT6 on the PS3. To me, GT has been following a kind of pattern. I quickly sold GT5 because I felt like it was a little incomplete, despite 5 years of development time. It seems like the even numbered GT’s are the best ones in the series. GT2 was definitely a step up from GT1 and GT4 was definitely a step up from GT3 A-Spec. I believe it has something to do with the odd numbered GT’s always appearing as the first games on a new generation console. Now that PD have created a base with GT5 and experimented with the technology, they can polish GT6 to the point where it’s miles ahead of GT5 in less time.
GT5 is very incomplete and it would be very rude to not repair it in GT6 on PS3…instant buy if it will be more complete.
That is a very good point that I never thought about
Thats exactly was I was thinking in my post, just seems logical looking at how long GT5 has been out and the PS4 is still some way off, plenty time for a GT game on the PS4, look how long the PS3 had been out before GT5 appeared…just saying
It would make sense, in a round a bout way. Look at every other GT title, we had 2 per console. The first of each set the technology up, then the second one added to that.
For me GT2, GT4 were always my favourites due to the ramping up of content on a game engine that was tried and tested.
So it would keep everything in order if GT6 was a PS3 title, and lets be honest if we got every track and a load of standards converted to premiums with some new cars and tuning options (more RM variants) we’d all be happy and it would keep the community stress levels down while the PS4 could settle into being launched and the hype dying down, plus give PD time to concentrate on a GT game for that in good time, we dont want it rushed just because the PS4 is out!
GT6 on ps3 NOOOOO!!!!! Are you kidding? (^_’) good photo
PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR PR SHOW SHOW SHOW SHOW SHOW SHOW SHOW SHOW
Interesting: Kazunori knows about these plans? LOL:))
Assuming as PD has always said that they started working on GT6 as soon as GT5 was released it is possible that they may have so much of it deleveloped (for PS3) that a PS3 release would make sense. Especially if what they had achieved was not exactly pushing the envelope as far as PS4 technology goes. It wouldn’t surprise me too much then to see GT6 on PS3 with possibly a PS4 version or GT7 soon afterward. I would doubt however that a Gran Turismo game will be a PS4 launch title though given pass history.
MILK IT BABY !!!
Its a no-brainer… We, well im not sure about myself, will run out and by anything GT and thats the track record..
PS2:
GT3 – 2001 (I logged a billion hours with this game… well almost..)
GT4p – 2003
GT4 – (final, we gave up edition, no online?) 2006 — (also when i gave up on GT series)
PS3:
GT HD – 2006 (2 systems same year, GT4 with HR textures and tweaks, ONLINE RACING!!!! – well I mean online leaderboards (read cheaterboards), milking)
GT5p – 2008 ( P stands for.. Proof we are actually working on something edition, ONLINE RACING !!! kinda…)
GT5 – 2010 – (final, and yea it felt like a we ran out of time edition)
SO… next?
GT5 Platinum – PS3 – 2013 (GT5, tweaks, more hondas, maybe some standard car updates, mostly just a UI changes)
GT SuperHD? – PS4 – 2013 (demo with new PS4 (GT5 with new textures), 1 track 4 cars)
GT MMO – PS4 – 2013/14 (3 locations, 5 cars)
GT6p – 2015/2016 (3 locations/tracks, 10 cars)
GT6 – 2018 (yet another we gave up, system cant handle what Kaz wants.)
Yea i know I come off as just harsh and bitter, yes and no, sadly the above is partly true.
FOR ME!!.. Every GT game builds itself up to be the ULTIMATE BLOW YOUR NICKERS OFF game.. and every time its a disappointment… with the excuse, we didn’t have time, well the PS3 isn’t the super computer we thought it was…
GT4 was the thorn for me.. ever since im a skeptic when i hear anything about something new and awesome with GT.. GT5 is great but was hyped to be the ULTIMATE racing game.. was it?
Guess we’ll see… fingers crossed but not holding my breath.
It’ll probably be a PS3/4 release like Watchdogs, Diablo 3 and stuff like that.
Hopefully.
I really don’t want to buy a new console to have PD dissapoint me again.
but IF GT5 really pushed the PS3 to the limit, as they never got tired of showcase us, how ‘good’ do you think a GT6 could become on this console? And if GT6 is simply what GT5 should’ve been in the first place… FINISHED! …then what could 6 contain that they couldn’t simply give us through a last big update? Spec3 like.
If you get enough FREE updates, it’s akin to a new game. It wasn’t “they” who pushed the issue of the PS3 being pushed to its limits, it was the fans who kept reiteraring it. You will buy it and like it just like the rest of us, otherwise you wouldn’t care enough to be here expressing. It doesn’t need to look a whole lot better, it just needs to be a complete game.
I think this is a mere guess. I really strongly belive GT6 will be on PS4.
Yeah, I mean I will be one of those people who won’t buy the ps4 console unless the GT6 gets released on ps4.
Maybe GT6P will be for the PS3 and then GT6 for the PS4 for amazing additional features.
“It is worth noting the two first-party titles he mentioned in his comments: The Last of Us, and Beyond: Two Souls, have both been formally announced with confirmed release dates in 2013. Gran Turismo 6, meanwhile, remains a secretive project that few within the company will talk about in any degree of detail.”
Wich COULD mean a release date is about to pop up any time soon, IF the man knows what he is talking about… I have little doubt he does, otoh of course it is possible he’s just made a mistake here mentioning GT6.
Somebody hack his smartphone to check his schedules for a trip or phone-calls to Fukuoka in the near past/ or future, please! ;)
I sure hope so since I don’t feel like buying a new console just for the one freaking game I want.
._.
Guy clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about, like usually with these types of ‘executives’.
Would take it with a big grain of salt. He’s just name-dropping the first games that come to his mind.
Remember: GT1/GT2-PSOne. GT3/GT4-PS2. GT5/GT6-PS3. GT7/GT8-PS4?
Why does the games have to stick to this schedule…? I’ve never gotten why people use this as an excuse. Considering how late GT5 got to the PS3, there’s plenty of reasoning why GT5 could be the “only” GT game on PS3… Even though there was also GT5P. And considering the difficult architecture of the PS3, I’m getting a strong feeling that GT6 won’t be on PS3. But even if it is on PS3, There is an absolute ZERO percent chance of it NOT showing up on the PS4.
I think these executives don’t even know what they’re talking about.
I just feel they only learn the titles of the games they try to sell, and end up mixing things and getting confused about it.
Unless Kaz has been working in a new GT7 engine and left another group of developers for GT6 with GT5’s engine. Maybe they plan shorter release periods for GT games.
That’s the only possibility I see of GT6 coming to PS3.
Hooray, us tin-foil-hat wearers have been vindicated.
Now that PS4 has been officially revealed/announced, news about GT6 must (not should) follow soon. I cannot think of a reason why they would be so secretive about the upcoming game.
Yes, they should keep the details secret until a few months before launch, but the announcement that they are working on the game and time frame for its release should not be a secret. What are they going to lose by announcing GT6? What, Microsoft will start working on the next Forza, or others will jump on the sim-racing band wagon? Will we, the fans, stop playing GT5 just because GT6 is coming? It doesn’t matter and NO, NO, and NO!!!
If I were Sony, I’d have a trailer for GT6 in the Feb 20 PS4 revealing. Then I’d show more details in the upcoming months/E3/etc. And then I’d release the game as a launch title for PS4 in fall 2013. It makes so much sense. Financially, you want the very best games to be launched with your console. It’s also good for marketing because the GT series has so many fans. And, more importantly, you would be wrong to call it your “flagship” game and not launch it with your new pride and joy console, the PS4.
Obviously, I love the Gran Turismo series or I won’t be on this forum wasting my time. But I have constantly been let down by the suits at Sony. Sometimes it seems like they are trying to make this franchise fail. Missed launch dates, missed deadlines, etc, etc are just bad in so many ways. If they truly mean what they say — that the GT series is their flagship game — then they need to put a lot of money and resources and make sure they produce and deliver the very best game they can make. “The very best” also means having it released in a reasonable time frame and, once set, NOT missing the release date.
I don’t mean that they should rush out and release a half-finished game. What I mean is that they should share with the fans their concept for the upcoming game. They should let us know that they have big plans for it, etc, so that we can stop wondering if/when they will make another game in the series, etc.
Totally agree.
Kaz wont make that mistake (again) after he talked GT5 up to much to the Gaming press and Sony “suits” then couldn’t deliver on his assumptions. Result was Sony forcing his hand and consumers got an incomplete game.
Kaz wants stage to himself when GT6 shows demo (IMO), probably why nothing from PD was shown, driving/racing wise alongside Drive Club.
^ *when GT6 demo shows* ^
Part of the problem is that Kaz/PD were too ambitious – they bit off more than they could chew. I’m sure they could’ve done everything they had wanted to do, but the simple fact is that they wouldn’t have been able to do it in an economically reasonable time period. (Meaning that it wouldn’t be worth the money they’d get for it, and it would’ve been better to do half of the stuff they wanted to do for one game [GT5], and then the rest in the next game [GT6]). So it’s both Sony’s AND PD’s fault, but it isn’t too bad of a reason, in my opinion. I’d rather have a poor quality game because of too much ambition and a forced release than laziness.
Surely they will have known about PS4 long enough to have diverted their efforts towards developing a game for that console so that they won’t have to build GT6 from the ground up.
Like Jordan said, if GT6 comes out on ps3, it will hurt the “promotional and marketing efforts towards the PlayStation 4”. Even if PD & Sony release the game on both consoles, ps4 won’t sell as much as they expected.
Why would they release Gt6 on an aging console? Will there an updated/upgraded ps4 version??.
I think Pd and Sony know GT5 was a huge disappointment and are trying to save face.
If GT5 already pushed the boundaries of the PS3 I think GT6 on Ps3 might be a watered down version of the PS4 title.
I’d rather have the game be put on the ps4…but understandably if they did already start coding for the cell that it would stay ps3. The Cell and the current architecture are vastly different and would require reworking from the ground up.
Honestly, GT6 on PS3 is NOT going to be any different IMO… What, more cars and tracks? NOT good enough. GT6 on ONLY PS4 needs to happen.
My thoughts exactly.
Same here Toko :D
you guys. Of course more cars and tracks would not make for a great GT6. A strong racing emphasis, some killer A.I., a realistic tire model, GTAcademy-style leaderboards, some simple things made into options and we’ve got a game worthy of the Gran Turismo name.
This can all happen on the ps3, easily.
there MANY things which could be MUCH better on same hardware…Lack of tracks and cars is not only thing making better game.
+1 researchALL wars
@researchALLwars I know what you said would also work for GT6 on the PS3, but it can work the same on the PS4. What I’m REALLY looking for in GT6 on the PS4 is day/night cycle and weather on all tracks, that’s why I really want GT6 on the PS4, plus it’ll make sense to have it on a newer system too than a old one. :(
@karelpipa What about the lack of day/night cycle and weather on ALL tracks hmm?
Here’s where they tell us it’s being released on PS3 and they are yet to begin working on a PS4 title. Dun dun dunnnnn.
I personally thought ,gt6 had to be on ps3 ,but now I want it on ps4 .
Remember for how long we had been waiting gor gt5 to be released and now imagine gt6 out to ps4 in just months after ps4 release It would be cool .
p.s.And FFXV ofccoarse :)
That kind of thinking is why PD’s GTs get released non-finished.
Phil, right on the money.They already have have what we all want, right here on the PS3.
I’m thinking, why not release it on both the PS3 and PS4?
Because PS4 is new and a GT7 would be more appropriate?
Exactly. Blizard is going to do just that with Diablo III.
It’s going to be interesting which is announced first: FM5 or GT6.
Suggest?
He simply said.
The Bomb has been planted.
Haha :D
If this is so what will we get? I hope not the same as we have gotten.
Maybe this is why Kazonori described the ps4 as a blank canvas… because they haven’t done much of anything on it yet :)
Only time will tell.
I’m liking this theory.
not going to happen in 2013. He probably just misspoke or doesn’t really know what he is talking about..
Who cares. As long as it comes out in a reasonable time space. A PS4 only release will mean a long wait.
Right. Because a SCE VP doesn’t know what he’s talking about…
Sorry BP, was aiming for the above post^
Wouldn’t surprise me. Sony Europe Execs have been wrong many times in the past. They seem to love putting out false release windows especially.
It has to be a Prologue of some kind. Either way, my PS3 is quivering with anticipation.
Wow true that. Then GT6 can’t be much better than GT5 on ps3 since Kaz said that GT5 was pushing to the limits of ps3.
I hope you only mean graphically- because overall, GT6 could be infinitely better than 5. On the same hardware, no doubt.
researchALLwars-exactly. The racing aspect could be perfected on this platform. The graphics? How much better can racing look, fron a driver’s POV? Stop admiring the scenery and drive…
No…you gotta be kidding me…He must be confused.
Will it come to both is the question
It should. Activision did this with the Guitar/Band Hero series.
Standard on PS3… Premium on PS4…
Fail