When Thrustmaster released the T500RS as the officially-licensed wheel for Gran Turismo 5 back in 2011, it made quite an impact on the sim racing hardware market. Featuring sturdy construction, high-quality materials, and wide availability among retailers around the world, it got the attention of many enthusiasts looking for a PS3 and PC compatible wheel.
The T500RS has been widely praised, and Thrustmaster is looking to repeat their success on the latest generation of consoles with the new T300RS, which first hit the market late last year boasting full compatibility with the PlayStation 4. Although the model number may be smaller, the T300 is packed with new technology that supposedly makes it more precise, more durable, and more engaging to use than its older brother. As a satisfied owner of the T500RS, I was curious to get my hands on the new hardware when Thrustmaster offered to send over a T300RS for review (the company has also purchased advertising on GTPlanet in the past).
My first impressions unboxing Thrustmaster products have consistently been positive; it’s easy to see why Sony – a company very protective of its brands – has entrusted Thrustmaster with building officially licensed PlayStation and Gran Turismo accessories. They are well packaged and documented, with clear instructions and diagrams.
Setup was a breeze, and I was pleasantly surprised to find the provided cables offered more than enough length to accommodate my rather unorthodox configuration (if you’ve ever struggled to plug in a USB or power cable that’s just a few inches too short, you know how important this is!); it even features as internal power block, so there’s less clutter. As with other wheels, the T300RS includes both a table mounting bracket and M6 threaded screw holes, so you can clamp it to a table or attach it to a driving rig.
One of the T300’s main selling points is compatibility: it works out-of-the-box with the PlayStation 4, PlayStation 3, and PC, thanks to a switch that changes the wheel’s mode. This means that – aside from the Forza Motorsports series on Xbox One – you’ll be able to use it for all of the most popular racing games for years to come (if you are looking for Xbox compatibility, check out the Thrustmaster TX).
How does this compare with the T500? Although the T500 can work with the PS4, support for every game is not guaranteed – it’s up to each game developer to decide if they want to support the older hardware (you can find a list of currently supported titles here). The T500 is also lacking PS4-compatible “PS” and “Share” buttons. The T300, by contrast, offers full functionality on both the PS3 and PS4, so you can ditch the controller and use the console with the wheel alone. Although this may seem like a small feature, the simple convenience of hopping into your driving rig without having to juggle and keep track of a controller should not be overlooked.
Compatibility aside, I found the new button layout on the T300 to be much improved over the T500. The L2, R2, Select, and Start buttons have been moved closer to the thumbs, so they can be reached without having to remove your hand from the wheel. The T300 also features more traditionally-mounted paddle shifters, which are attached to the back of the wheel and rotate with it (this is in contrast to the T500, which was often criticized for its stationary paddles).
Although I had grown accustomed to the T500’s stationary paddles, I was never particularly fond of them, and I did occasionally miss mid-corner shifts when my fingers were out of reach. This problem is completely resolved with the T300, and its paddles present a nice, solid click, with a short travel that is surprisingly satisfying. Although it’s probably psychological, it makes me feel like I’m able to execute shifts faster on the T300 and it’s more fun doing so.
This would be a good time to mention that the T300RS is fully compatible with all of the rims produced by Thrustmaster, including the Ferrari GTE wheel (458 Challenge Replica Edition), TX wheel, the Ferrari F1 replica wheel, and even the T500 rim. The rims can be swapped using a quick-release mechanism, but it’s not entirely plug and play – you will still need to grab a screwdriver to make the switch. For me, the stock T300 wheel remains the best choice: it’s a good size and feels nice in your hands.
The real pleasure with the T300RS, however, comes from the wheel’s new force feedback motor: it’s strong and exceptionally smooth. It is a treat to drive in Gran Turismo 6, and the more communicative PC simulators such as iRacing and Assetto Corsa feel even better. The wheel even helps games with more “arcade” physics, such as DriveClub, feel more immersive.
The smooth torque delivery makes the force feedback feel more natural, and allows the nuances of the track surface and the car’s behavior to be communicated more fluently into your hands. The sensation is not only smooth, but powerful – you’ll get quite a workout with stronger force-feedback strength settings, and it should be able to satisfy players who enjoy a more aggressive wheel. According to Thrustmaster’s documentation, the T500 can still produce more force, but I wasn’t able to tell much of a difference in my testing (I personally prefer medium-light force feedback settings, where the T300’s smoothness is most apparent).
The T300’s power delivery feels “frictionless” because, in some ways, it is: it uses an industrial-grade brushless servo motor, which is typically only seen in higher-end wheels which are considerably more expensive.
A technical discussion on the merits of a “brushless” DC motor are beyond the scope of this review, but you can learn more about the technology here. To summarize, there is less friction inside the motor, so it’s quieter and more durable. The T300 also employs Thrustmaster’s “H.E.A.R.T.” (“Hall Effect AccuRate Technology”) system, which uses magnets to detect the wheel’s steering position without the need for any moving parts. There is a small fan inside the T300 which turns on during heavy use; you’ll hear the fan if there is no sound coming from the game, but it never got loud enough in my testing to be heard over the television’s speakers.
It all contributes to one of the best experiences to be had at this price point, wrapped in a handsome package that should be able to withstand plenty of abuse.
Such an outstanding wheel can make the pedals seem a bit of an afterthought, though: unlike the T500, which included three pedals that could be mounted in a top-hinged configuration, the T300’s included pedals are much less sophisticated (though to be fair, the T500 is $200 more expensive!).
Although they remain overshadowed by their clutch-touting counterparts, they are not necessarily bad; the brake pedal has more resistance than the throttle, and will serve most T300 owners well. Note that they do lack grip on carpeted surfaces, which may cause an issue if you will not be mounting them inside a dedicated rig.
The T300’s included pedals on the left; the T3PA pedals (sold separately) on the right.
More serious sim racers, however, will be happy to know the wheel can be used with a wide range of Thrustmaster-compatible pedal sets (including those from other manufacturers). Although the T300 is not unique in this regard, such interoperability is a very important feature for any sim racing product so you can mix, match, and upgrade accessories to your liking.
The most obvious upgrade is the Thrustmaster T3PA pedals, which is the company’s latest pedal set that includes a clutch and variable resistance. Check out my full review of the T3PAs for more information. I’ll also be publishing a full review of the TH8A shifter, which brings gated and sequential shifting to the Thrustmaster ecosystem.
So, should you buy one of these? If you’re in the market for a wheel and have the budget, you can’t go wrong with the T300RS. The durability and exceptional feel provided by the brushless motor, full PS3, PS4, and PC support, and a reasonable price tag will make it a practical and attractive option for years to come. If I had to choose between the T500 and T300 today, I wouldn’t hesitate to go with the T300.
If you already have a T500RS, though, don’t fret too much; although the T300 has its advantages, you still own one of the best wheels on the market, and its popularity should help ensure that game developers continue to support it throughout the PS4’s lifespan. For aging Logitech wheel owners looking to make the jump to latest generation of consoles while maintaining compatibility with older titles, however, the T300RS will be a significant upgrade.
You can purchase the T300RS here on Amazon (if you found this review helpful, ordering via any of the affiliate links in this post will help support GTPlanet). Please leave any questions in the comments below, or stop by our Sim Racing Hardware forum for more in-depth discussions with other enthusiasts and T300 owners
Stay tuned for the T3PA pedals and TH8A shifter review, coming soon!
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and this was in a very well known club
g25 g27 dfgt will work KAZ has said so not public just saying. I have seen something on gtplanet not saying anything else
Since Sony loves to make things proprietary, this has made my decision on not even buying a PS4. Thrustmaster’s customer service treats you like you’re a moron and you’re lucky if you resolve any issues in the months it takes for them to replace anything broken. I’m not going to take that chance again. If you’ve got the money and time to waste, have fun. I’m getting too old for this kind of crap.
I have no experience with TM but I have read quite a few reports lately of people getting good customer service from them.
Does anyone know if Logitech ever plans on updating the g27?
Logitech is officially out of the console peripheral business to concentrate on their mobile and PC business. They continue to sell wheels because it’s a good product, still selling, and the high initial costs of the dies and moulds is long paid for and their margins are probably quite good. But future support or new wheels? Doesn’t look like it I’m afraid.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-01-25-logitech-to-discontinue-console-peripherals-to-focus-on-mobile
I’m really not going to say anything else more with all those DFGT, G25, G27 owners still going on about the issue of the PS4 compatibility. Forget about getting a PS4. Your wheels will never be supported. Move on.
Great review Jordan. Ignore the haters and all those silly comments some of those had made here. The only complain that I have is Thrustmaster should have sent you a set for review much earlier. But at the end of the day based on the reliability issues that some owners had with the first batch of production as posted in T300RS thread (http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/thrustmaster-t300rs-racing-wheel-thread.311143/), it makes sense for them to delay until now.
P.S. What’s the wheel stand/rig you’re using?
Thanks, Soulfresh. It’s an Obutto R3volution rig.
Good thing I bought the Xbone,G27 + Max Race F-1 V.4 = Forza 5 with the G27,lets hope they make a version for the PS4 because I definitely am not paying for another wheel that has been having a lot problems and terrible customer support.
I recently picked up one these to replace a Driving Force GT for use between PS3 and PS4. Night and day difference, the DFGT was a great wheel (for the price) but a mere toy compared to the T300RS. The feedback from the wheel offers much more information on what is taking place while driving. The pedals are loads better compared to the DFGT as well, though keeping them is going to be on a per user basis as there are other routes to explore in that area.
The only problem I’ve experienced with my wheel is when exiting a game. Once you arrive at the XMB and use the D-pad to arrow anywhere in the menus the “cursor” immediately drops you to the lowest portion of that menu. And when its deep, there is no going up and sideways into a neighboring column…you are beached. I’ve resorted to saving my game and shutting the system down via the PS button in the meantime. Very odd.
I wish we had the option of paying extra for the TP3A pedals instead having to buy it seperately (including the shifter so it would be cheaper together than buying them all seperately).
Totally. That’s one thing I don’t get.
Business issue aside, as an owner of the same wheel featured here but with the T3PA pedals and TH8A shifter I can completely agree with Jordan’s review. The stock pedals are still pretty good. The extra pedals were also fair value for the quality.
Am I happy Logitech won’t pay to allow a cheaper DFGT and G27 to work on the PS4? No (sorry, business issue are back).
Am I happy with the T300RS wheel and extras? Yes
In regards to the price, following the links on Thrustmasters official website, I was able to purchase one of these a week or two ago for £240 inc delivery from this site: http://www.discoazul.co.uk/thrustmaster-t300-rs-force-feedback.html
Bend over boys, while we… This is ridiculous. I’m probably getting too old for this. If you’re not too picky, you can get a real used car for the price of a racing wheel. And Jordan: You should be ashamed of yourself! If this is trolling, then suspend my account.
I should be ashamed of myself for writing a review of a steering wheel?
No you should be ashamed of yourself, for calling this a review. In my book this is a hidden commercial on the border of spin, and even though you state that “(the company has also purchased advertising on GTPlanet in the past)”, it doesn’t free yourself of moral and ethic obligations.
On top of that, the whole “security chip” issue is so easy to see through, that I think you should have kept from writing a review. Can you honestly state, that you are neutral in this?
I see numerous disclaimers. Is it really a problem when Jordan wears his “shame” on his sleeve?
There is no such thing as an unbiased opinion. At least Jordan’s being honest.
Bisse, this is a product review, not an editorial on the state of gaming, Sony or anything else. It is a darn good product as the review indicates and like all reviews, it’s left up to you to decide whether it’s good value for you given your needs and personal finances. Everything in context man, everything in context.
Ohh ya great comment. Do you care to know what the G25 cost when it came out? Google it. The T300 is of much higher quality and isn’t that much more. Have you ever owned a car bro?
Bisse, if you think I’m going to publish a dishonest review about a product that many of my readers already own on a website I’ve spent the last 14 years of my life to build, you must not only think of me as crooked but also incredibly stupid.
I clearly explained I received the product from Thrustmaster and their recent purchase of banner ads on the site; there’s nothing more to say, and to suggest I should be ashamed for moral transgressions is ridiculous. Virtually every professional consumer product review published will come with the same disclaimer.
The PS4’s USB restrictions which prevent older peripherals from working with the new console was Sony’s design decision; it has nothing to do with the T300RS or this review. To project your anger over the price and compatibility of this wheel onto me with slanderous, personal insults is disingenuous and leaves you in no position to lecture anyone on ethics.
Why on earth should Jordan not review the latest PS3 / PS4 driving sim hardware? Surely that’s exactly what this site it all about? I’d be kinda disappointed if he didn’t! As it happens, I also had the ISR YouTube review running in another tab and it cites the same pros and cons as were mentioned here, also along the lines of many comments by other users of this site, so I don’t think it was some biased, evil *advertisement* because of J’s DECLARED ad revenue. My only complaint is that Jordan didn’t put more international links to Amazon. I’ll always support GTP in that way whenever I get the chance. Plus, it’s only about £249 in the UK. If you can find me some running, roadworthy cars for that much then I’ll take ten..
@Scheer you can always send Jordan the appropriate links and the news article can be amended if he sees fit. Just send him a PM.
Well it’s not my job to sort out the affiliate links, but if Jordan adds a few for the rest of the world at the bottom of the article then I’ll gladly make my purchase via GTP so long as Jordan promises to spend the proceeds on a pint of Old Empire, served at room temperature. ;)
You could have sent him the appropriate links in the time it took to post that it wasn’t your job. But I guess it’s not your job so carry on.
Security chip my bum. That handshake between the PS4 and the wheel can be emulated via software/file. Ever heard of PKI? The other thing is Sony has the SDK available for peripheral developers for, I’m assuming, a STEEP price.
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so, uh,change of topic, whose up for beers?
That is what I have been reading also. There is supposedly a way of using the Raspberry Pi to act as a proxy, or even an Arduino.
But, most are just emulating the DS4 controller.
Ah yes, the old ‘security chip’ excuse ! If the real issue for older peripherals is a chip, how does it explain why the T500 RS wheel can work (in game) when it was released in 2011, some 2 years before the PS4 was ?
IMO, there is no real technical issue with older peripherals working on the PS4, it’s just that Sony has decided not to implement whatever is needed to allow Logitech or other manufacturers wheels to be used, possibly due to a clause in whatever exclusivity deal they’ve entered into with TM.
Having said that, I will be getting the T300 RS for two simple reasons : one, my DFGT is on it’s last legs with the years of use it’s had and, two, it’s the cheapest way, at present to have a quality wheel for the PS4.
The issue isn’t a “security chip”, but the USB human interface device standard – PS4 uses a version that places less strain on the console.
Older wheels (like my G25) are entirely driven by the device they’re attached to, whereas newer “smartwheels” (like the T300) drive themselves in tandem with the device. It’s the difference between the burden being on the console (PS1/2/3) and the burden being split between console and wheel (PS4, XBox/360/XBone).
You can use new wheels on old machinery because they’re capable of adhering to the old HID standard, but older wheels lack the hardware required.
It should only be a matter of time before someone builds a third party intermediate dongle that does the job the DF/G25/G27 can’t do to allow for connection of these wheels to the PS4 through it, but until then…
Does this mean we could be a step closer to GT7 being released this year? I am aware that Project Cars is in the next month, and Thrustmaster is the only confirmed device to work natively on the PS4.
I got tired of waiting for the add-on pedals and shifter to become available, so I returned the T300 and went with the G27. I’m happy with GT6 and have no interest in getting a PS4 until GT7 is released. Maybe by then the price will have come down for the wheel, pedals and shifter. In the meantime it was much cheaper to use the G27 for the next year or so. If Thrustmaster can get the combo down to around $300 I may go back to their products. The T300 may be a superior wheel, but without decent pedals and any type of shifter it’s way overpriced.
There are some rather tall tails in this thread.
If you want a Fanatec wheel for the PS4, you are still out of luck.
Let’s assume Fanatec gets a license to create a Clubsport wheel rim for the PS4, you will probably end up paying €600 for the CSWv2 base, €250ish for the PS4 rim, €150-250 for Fanatec pedals, €200 for Fanatec shifter, plus extra if you want any kind of clamp.
So you can complain that the T300 + T3PA + TH8A is expensive at €620 list price, and it is well over twice the price of a G27 so it’s a fair point. But the Fanatec gear would set you back probably around €1250, IF PS4 support is added, which it isn’t right now.
Yes, the Fanatec CSWv2 and pedals will be better than the T300 and pedals. But it costs twice as much so it should. A thousand times better? Um, no. And the “lesser” Fanatec gear is outclassed by the T300 (I have a Porsche wheel and a T300 so I can say this from personal experience).
Logitech left the console peripherals market publically in 2013. Sony has partnered with the alternative, namely Thrustmaster. And while Logitech is selling their old 2007 cog-based design, Fanatec and Thrustmaster have moved on to brushless belt-driven wheels which are a major step forward. You might not want to believe it, but it’s true.
well… you are saying wrong facts here… cause what would need fanatec to work on PS4 would be a rim with the infamous security chip…
so all the rest of the CS system would be the same with the same price and not inflated prices (like crapmaster do)…
in addiction fanatech CS wheel are a dozen times superior to any piece of plastic crapmaster do so even if you pay 1000€ for a full fanatec system it’s 10 times better than 620€ for a T300 system…
the problem is that you can wtach the situation from every side but the crapmasters wheels are too expensive and adding to the cost to an already expensive PS4 with games that are more expensive than POC games it leads to one solution only: go to PC where you pay the games less and you have the total control of you racing rig with all wheels you want, tablets to use as dashboards, cheaper games, and so on…
I left the Xbox side of consolle gaming for this crap of the “officially licended wheel” “read it “overcosted crap mafia”) and now that this happens to PS4 too i am leaving this platform too…
the only thing i will miss will be GT7 but with all the racing games i have on my PC i will survive…
Nice inexpensive wheel i can upgrade to from my DFGT when i get a ps4. But, i would really like a sequential shifter like the DFGT has.
To come with it*
inexpensive? it costs like almost like a PS4 that is offensive for a full plastic wheel with ugly pedals and without a shifter…
If Thrustmaster aren’t going to do the decent thing and offer the wheel separately from the useless pedals, I won’t be interested.
Lol…even if they did I can’t see those pedals being worth more than about a $50 price reduction.
It’s still a waste of money and materials, even if you’re Scrooge McDuck, it doesn’t change that fact.
I also can’t be arsed with flogging them, the “discount” is likely to be better than what Is get for them.
Think of those pedals as your backup pedals in case of failure.
Just FYI a T300 system that work only on PS3/4 and on PC only if you choose the Ferrari version + pedals and shifter costs you in euros
370 € for the wheel + 100 € for the pedals + 150 € for the shifter = 620 €
The FFB and the brushless motor can be the best thing in universe but why in universe i should pay this amount when i can have with few bucks more a Fanatec system that is thousand times better than Thrustmasters T300???
Part of sim racing is immersion, and even though it has a brushless motor and stronger FFB it is still a ridiculous asking price for a wheel that has no side shifter (sequential or h-pattern) and only two pedals. This is going to come back and bite Sony. I and a lot of my other sim racing friends have decided to make the switch from PS4 to PC, keep out G27’s and spend the money we would have to spend on a new wheel to build a PC. Not only do we get to keep the perfectly good hardware we’ve already spent the money on, we also get the better version of pCARS and have access to Asseto Corsa and iRacing. It’s a win win for G27 owners.
No one wants to drop double the amount a PS4 costs just to get the same wheel features most of us already have with our G27’s.
Dear Jordan,
So far I have been using the best wheel at the best price, Logitech G27. Unfortunately, for reasons that we know well, Sony wanted only Thrustmaster. Anyway, I bought T300RS and I have to say that is not bad, but the price is very expensive, we are talking about 360 Euros with a pedals set ridicolous, this means 100 euros more to buy a decent pedal set (T3PA). I believe that for a total of 360 Euros, Thrustmaster should have put T3PA inside the box instead of that…. I just want to say that my G27 was paid 259 Euros 3 years ago, I sold it for 130 euros in very good conditions even though I have been playing 2-3 hours at day for three years. I will be very happy if T300RS leave at least two years.
It’s crappy that my Fanatec wheel won’t work with the PS4. The T300 seems nice enough but the pedals would be just a huge step down from my CSR elites. I know I could get an adapter, but I’d rather not. On top of the pedals I’m just not sure that the T300 is as nice as my GT3 RS V2, even if it is a good bit more expensive.
Is there an adaptor for the CSR elites that plugs the pedals into the TM wheel base or is it to USB and directly into the system? If it converts to USB for direct plug in I don’t think that will work with consoles.
The adapter I’m looking at allows you to plug Fanatec pedals directly into TM wheels. Which is what I’ll end up doing if they never add Fanatec support for the PS4.
There is hope with Fanatec signing the deal with XBone last fall but you have to buy a whole new wheel rim to do so. Guessing at least $300 since they have you by the short ones.
Nice review, thanks. Looking forward to the pedals and shifter review. Could you do me a big favor, and ask Thrustmaster about putting together a T300RS bundle that replaces the pedals with T3PA and includes the TH8A shifter?
I’ve been using a G27 for a few years and like many other folks, I’m really disappointed in the lack of PS4 support. I don’t hold any hope of it happening at all. $300 for that G27 was the most I ever imagined paying for a wheel and I expected it to last a long while. And now here we are.
So when GT7 rolls around, I’ll be faced with a very steep bill, one I might not be able to justify to the wife, heh. That bundle could cut the total down and help a lot.
I’m really bummed that my g27 doesn’t work with my ps4. I’m looking forward to Project CARS and already have it preordered but there isn’t a chance in hell I’m putting out $450(Canadian) for this. 50 bloody dollars more than I paid for my PS4!? Are they insane? Sony needs to get serious here and get another reasonable option available because I’m sorry, I don’t care how good it is, this is a joke for that price. Especially when everyone says the same thing – get different pedals!
FYI, it’s on sale at Costco for $419…free shipping too. Just sayin’
http://www.costco.ca/Thrustmaster%C2%AE-T300RS-Racing-Wheel-.product.100149870.html
Is that a GTP affiliate link? Just sayin’… ;)
Does anyone know if the Thrustmaster family of wheels is compatible with Fanatec’s Load Cell-touting pedal sets?
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I was a DFGT owner for about a year before I decided to upgrade. Having tried out G27’s, I didn’t find them to be enough of a jump in quality/functionality to pay nearly $300USD after shipping for it.
I got a chance to try out the T500RS during the Jalopnik Film Festival demo a few years back and really enjoyed my limited time with it. But for being such an expensive wheel and still have a basic pedal setup, I was disappointed.
I ended up buying the Fanatec GT3 RS V2 w/ CSR Elite Pedals. Even though the shifter feels clunky and cheap, the pedal feel is superb. Although they get squeaky if not oiled regularly.
There’s an adapter called a CPX that you can buy from Basherboards. It allows you to use some Fanatec pedal sets with this wheel.
I also recently bought the T300, and it was an unnerving move away from my much loved G27.
And after a month in, I have to say that I am glad I did. I agree with the other reviewers in here, the wheel rocks. I honestly didn’t think I would be a able to say this, but the FFB and the driving experience are another level up from the 27. The stock pedals however are NOT. I found them to be very poor, especially the brake pedal, it has a huge dead zone (possibly fixable with tinkerage) and just feels plastic and horrid. I swapped them out out for the T3PA’s, which with the brake mod /bung, round off the whole package nicely.
I bought the T300RS and i’m really happy with it. My previous wheel was a Logitech DFGT i used for almost 6 years and the only problem was the brake pedal that i had to open it and fix.
I bought the T500 pedals to my wheel that are amazing and the TH8A shiffter too(still waiting for it to arrive). The only bad thing on this wheel are the stock pedals, that comes with a big deadzone(10-15% on my). I will open the stock pedals and see if i can fix it like some guys here on GTP did.
Very happy with my T300 even though I had to get a replacement due to a faulty base … T3PA Pedals are stunning, few pics and my thoughts in the relevant threads in the sim racing section on here :D
Anyone who seriously thinks the Logitech G25/27 etc is better than the T300 believe me it is NOT, feels like an old relic in comparison to the T300!!
Just bought the T300RS and it has been a pleasure to play with it. Downside could be the pedals but it can be amended with the T3PA.
Just be aware that the pedals will PROBABLY need to be fixed or replaced:
http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/Gran-Turismo-Series-General/Review-of-the-Thrustmaster-T300RS/td-p/44355748/page/8
Look at the bottom of the page for why, and follow the discussion for the next 9 pages. It’s a very cheap pedal set…….
Good review mate. Will be buying mine soon too!
I’ll be upgrading soon enough. I hope they lower the price of either the shifter or T3PA pedals.
Crapmasters male overcosted crap and $ony made a deal with them for the PS4 marking the doom of it as a driving games platform!
Sorry to say but the only driving games platform now is the PC with the good old Logitech wheel or the superior Fanatec wheel…
The Xbox1 with the MadCrapz esclusive and the PS4 with the Crapmasters esclusive are DEAD!
Review of the T300: The T300 is a overcosted pièce of Plastic that cost you double of a G27 to have the same Experience or as much as a fanatec that gives you a far superior Experience. Do a favour to yourself and keep playing GT6 on PS3 to avoid Crapmasters forever!
Start your own company and come back to tell us your success story about how you managed to put a comparable quality product on the market that cost half that of the competitons. I bet you won’t pull it off.
After the horrible experience I had with Thrustmaster’s customer service, I couldn’t possibly buy another product from them again. I also can’t see paying that much money for a wheel, so I guess I’ll stick with my standard controller until I find an affordable wheel that isn’t made by them. Of course, I’m not holding my breath…
At $AU650 to $AU700, forget it.
Unless it feels 4x better than the DFGT then I wouldn’t even consider it. $AU650-700 is not reasonable in my opinion after getting the DFGT for $AU150.
I don’t know if one can measure 4x in this regard but I’ll tell you that just going from the DFGT and the G27 are world’s apart IMO and from friends that have the T300, by all accounts the T300 is also that far ahead of the G27. I used the DFGT for 2 years and was quite happy with it, but after trying the G27 there’s no way I could go back to the DFGT, it’s more toy-like and plasticy feeling. I imagine it would be the same with the T300RS.
You could at the excessive price as the cost of the setup plus the PS4 tax.
From what I can tell, Thrustmaster is the only manufacture that is compatible with the PS4.
True @warpkez, it’s not like one has a choice. Seeing as how the next wheel down the line is only 270 degrees of rotation and cheap as heck I’d say the options are pretty limited. Unless one switches to PC of course and then anything works.
I planned on getting 1 this week when I get my tax return but they’re hard to find. Amazon’s sold out and there’s no way I’m spending more than $400
Go on Playseat website they have the T300RS for cheaper than Amazon.
Cheaper than $400?
Anyway, I had to get it from Walmart because Amazon sold out. Luckily it was only $10 to get next day shipping. With Amazon Prime I only pay $4 for 1 day shipping, but I’ll let that $6 slide
I already spent 200quid on g27 and i love it pretty upseting that it does not work ps4 and im not willing to spend 500quid on this really nice wheeler but no tnx i hope sony releases some sort of update so the g27 works on ps4 thats all
T300RS is £270 in the UK not £500.
I still spent 200quid and y would i buy t300rs for 270quid if i already have the better wheeler i just bought g27 not long ago and the t500rs is goin for 400 to 500quid i dont think people willing to pay that much when they already got g27
same here, recently bought a G27 in amazon for $us200.-, the 300RS is listed with a prices of $us400.- just for Project Cars
I am happy with my 5 year old G25, it’s still going strong & has plenty of life left in it. And what with GT’s weak FFB & lack of options, I haven’t even got the most out of it yet. I’m holding out for Logitech support on PS4 at some point in the future, & I will not be”encouraged” to buy a Thrustmaster wheel.
What will you do if that support never comes?
it is most likely the G27 will never be supported in PS4. My decision was to skip this console generation and jump to PC so I can also play World of Speed whenever that thing comes out
You don’t hear much about World of Speed but I’ll buy it when it comes out as well.
Triple post alert!!! Arggggh…I didn’t type a link out up above but it posted that way for some reason. It doesn’t go anywhere.
@Johnnypenso World of Speed is supposed to be a fremium PC title from SMS, the developers of Project Cars but still have no date of release
I tried to type “FTP” above but for some reason it came out as a link.
Do they have different SKU options? I don’t fancy having useless two pedal set up, I like having the option of going full manual w/clutch or paddle shift. At that price it’s a bit not worth the investment unless the pedals and gated shifter are options.
You can only purchase the T300RS with pedals (the two-pedal configuration as shown above). As noted in the last few paragraphs, it’s fully compatible with the Thrustmaster T3PA pedal set (which includes a clutch) and TH8A shifter, both sold separately. I’ll be publishing separate reviews for each of these add-ons over the next few weeks.
On PC you can also buy an adaptor to make your pedals and shifter from the G27 compatible if you go that route and are looking to upgrade. Expect to add around 75% to the cost of the T300 if you want the T3PA and TH8A added later on.
I curretnly own a Logitech G27 and I love the manual gears. But it is unfortunatley not compatible with PS4 and I am not in the position to purchase a $600 wheel. I’m still digging through Ebay but I’m not sure if I am ready to spend that kind of money considering I just purchased a DSLR.
Well if it takes you a long time to get the money, it may be a good thing.
If there’s any chance of the Logitech’s finally being supported, it’ll be with GT7. If anyone can get Sony to finally patch in support for logitech, it’s PD. PD has always supported older peripherals unlike other people.
And unlike Xbone, there’s nothing about the PS4’s hardware that prevents it from supporting old USB wheels. It’s just some nonsense excuse Sony has about a “security chip”. That “security chip” doesn’t exist in any of the mice or keyboards that work with the PS4 so there’s no reason they can’t patch in support for logitech.
The ‘lack of grip’ on carpeted surfaces, is that due to not having some sort of ‘teeth’ to dig into the carpet with ? (like the DFGT’s pedals do), or is it from a lack of ‘weight’ ? – As I’ve heard it can be easy to kick/move-them around without enough ‘ballast’ to keep them in place.
Been heavily thinking of upgrading to a T300RS from my DFGT, and the wheel I’m pretty much sold on, it’s the stock-pedals I question, I know they’re an upgrade regardless – but I play on carpet, so that comment & subject has my attention now.
Because of the increased resistance in the pedals compared to the dfgt’s, you will need to figure out a way to brace the pedals if you don’t mount them. They will not stay in place under racing conditions just sitting on the carpet or other surface. It’s not about the ballast, but the fact that there is decent resistance in the brake pedal comparitively (a good thing!). So you are using more force to depress it and thereby more force on the base as well.
The T300RS pedals don’t have “teeth” like the DFGT pedals, and they aren’t really heavy enough to dig into carpet on their own. You should be able to pick up some grip tape at your local hardware store or just sit something heavy in front of the pedals to prevent slipping.
Ya not much of a problem, I think anyone with a slight bit of creativity can figure out a way to keep them from pushing away. Hardmounting the pedal set to a nice piece of plywood with a 6 or 8 carpet spikes on the bottom will do well. Besides, the carpet spike strip on the DFGT and (mostly) G25/27 will wreck your carpet from jamming on the brakes over a short time even..
You must drive like a mad man if you ruin your carpet from the pedal spikes lol. Smooooth is fast..
Well this is with the G25/27… the DFGT pedal set of course an absolute joke compared to the weight and resistance of clutch and brake pedal of the G. I have two spots of proof where you can totally see wear from when I first got the G25 back when it first released.. I since mounted the solid at a 15 deg. angle. But seriously there is no way you’re going to get away with braking thousands of times and not start to pull and shread carpet fibers. Sure smooth is fast but obviously there are tons of corners you approach where where you need to jam on the brakes fully to be fast. I think what it boils down to is how much your carpet is worth to you. My parents didn’t appreciate the wear on the brand new carpet (in a brand new house) when I moved out I’ll tell you that..
I wonder if this was written as thanks to TM, or as a way to earn more money for the site. Either way, cool! Thanks jordan. I was really thinking about buying one of these, but didn’t know whether or not this or the other one was better!
There is a ton of feedback in the Hardware Forum on this and every other wheel. That would be the best place to look for information I think.