Mission 11 - New York Toyota GT2000
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AMG.
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3 lap battles Mission 11 New York Toyota GT2000
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I just cant let these writeups go astray, so I'll try to save as many of them as I can.
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http://www.davidanderson.org.uk/gt4_videos.htm#mission
Courtesy of Daan and Famine
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hispeed
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Man, i hate that mission. THanks for all the tips guys maybe they will help me finally do it!
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Man, I love this mission 
I got so depressed reading about it, but actually won by 3 seconds on my first real try just now (Caught penalties within 40 sec while learning the braking power the 2 first times and reset :\ ), but then again I like softer cars...
Some good tips above, note early braking and try to hold the car above a certain speed. I was a bit careful on the first lap, but I found that you could take the 270 @ 70-75kph, the first right-left after that @ 65kph, then try and stay around 75 for the rest of the 90d's. The double right between the straights can be taken @ 55kph (all these numbers are the slowest you'll need to go, and safe speeds at the apexes).
Another important tip is to steer gently, and back off at once if the front tires overload. I'm using the d-pad, and I could steer the car well just by feathering the steering through most of it. At the speeds I mentioned, you'll be able to avoid any understeer.
If you manage to keep these speeds and avoid understeer you'd probably win by 6+ seconds, so you can afford to take it a little easy... which is what you should do, cause the worst thing you can do here is overcook it.
Now on to my umpteenth try @ la sarthe 3 lap mission... I already broke one controller trying that
I got so depressed reading about it, but actually won by 3 seconds on my first real try just now (Caught penalties within 40 sec while learning the braking power the 2 first times and reset :\ ), but then again I like softer cars... Some good tips above, note early braking and try to hold the car above a certain speed. I was a bit careful on the first lap, but I found that you could take the 270 @ 70-75kph, the first right-left after that @ 65kph, then try and stay around 75 for the rest of the 90d's. The double right between the straights can be taken @ 55kph (all these numbers are the slowest you'll need to go, and safe speeds at the apexes).
Another important tip is to steer gently, and back off at once if the front tires overload. I'm using the d-pad, and I could steer the car well just by feathering the steering through most of it. At the speeds I mentioned, you'll be able to avoid any understeer.
If you manage to keep these speeds and avoid understeer you'd probably win by 6+ seconds, so you can afford to take it a little easy... which is what you should do, cause the worst thing you can do here is overcook it.
Now on to my umpteenth try @ la sarthe 3 lap mission... I already broke one controller trying that
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Some more tips for this mission:
When braking for corners don't just plant the pedal. You want to squeeze it on to about 7/8ths pressure. For me this stopped the car a lot quicker than just slapping the brakes on full.
Early and light braking really does make a difference. If you're finding the car won't turn in for corners lay off the brakes. You don't have to come right off them, but if you're only braking at 1/3rd to 1/2 power the car responds much better.
In the middle section of 90 degree turns I was taking the 1st at about 35mph, accelerating up to be exiting the 3rd at about 50mph. The next lot you should aim for at least 50mph. I couldn't make every corner every lap, but I think with the perfect line you should be able to better it on each corner.
The lead AI really does mess it up at the last hairpin. This is where I caught him and gave him a boost - it was a real drag to the finish line. If you end up following him into the last hairpin then take a wide exit and you should be able to swoop around the outside
Lap times:
Overall me: 6'46.776
Overall AI: 6'47.640
Events:
+26.703
+23.626
5th place: 1'45 - 1/3rd down the north-south straight
1st Lap: +18.905
4th Place: 2'59 - halfway along west-east straight
+15.792
+12.785
3rd Place: 4'04 - approaching southern hairpin
2nd place 4'21 - between hairpin and start/finish
2nd Lap: +7.992
+4.917
+2.076
1st Place: 6'33 - between hairpin and start/finish
3rd Lap: -0.864
When braking for corners don't just plant the pedal. You want to squeeze it on to about 7/8ths pressure. For me this stopped the car a lot quicker than just slapping the brakes on full.
Early and light braking really does make a difference. If you're finding the car won't turn in for corners lay off the brakes. You don't have to come right off them, but if you're only braking at 1/3rd to 1/2 power the car responds much better.
In the middle section of 90 degree turns I was taking the 1st at about 35mph, accelerating up to be exiting the 3rd at about 50mph. The next lot you should aim for at least 50mph. I couldn't make every corner every lap, but I think with the perfect line you should be able to better it on each corner.
The lead AI really does mess it up at the last hairpin. This is where I caught him and gave him a boost - it was a real drag to the finish line. If you end up following him into the last hairpin then take a wide exit and you should be able to swoop around the outside
Lap times:
Overall me: 6'46.776
Overall AI: 6'47.640
Events:
+26.703
+23.626
5th place: 1'45 - 1/3rd down the north-south straight
1st Lap: +18.905
4th Place: 2'59 - halfway along west-east straight
+15.792
+12.785
3rd Place: 4'04 - approaching southern hairpin
2nd place 4'21 - between hairpin and start/finish
2nd Lap: +7.992
+4.917
+2.076
1st Place: 6'33 - between hairpin and start/finish
3rd Lap: -0.864
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While going thru the section with the 90 degree turns I notice the I hit the redline in second gear just before I need to brake for the next corner. My first question is does this seem similar to your expericences, or am I not carrying enough speed through those corners?
If I am about right on my speed through there, should I do a quick shift up to 3 and then right back into second? It seems the that would slow me down a bit and possibly upset the balance of the car just before turning. In a real car I would be worried about bouncing it off the rev limiter, but in the game they are only zeros and ones. The only time I seem to be fast enough to warrant a quick shift into 3rd is on the last short straight before the 90 degree to the back straight. But I usually don't shift and concentrate on trying to get through the corner as fast as possible.
My best so far is about 1.3 sec behind the 1st place car.
Thanks,
Peter J. Ford
If I am about right on my speed through there, should I do a quick shift up to 3 and then right back into second? It seems the that would slow me down a bit and possibly upset the balance of the car just before turning. In a real car I would be worried about bouncing it off the rev limiter, but in the game they are only zeros and ones. The only time I seem to be fast enough to warrant a quick shift into 3rd is on the last short straight before the 90 degree to the back straight. But I usually don't shift and concentrate on trying to get through the corner as fast as possible.
My best so far is about 1.3 sec behind the 1st place car.
Thanks,
Peter J. Ford
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Thank you everyone for your advice.
I have a couple of tips I haven't seen before that might help someone else.
In the 270 degree corner after getting into the left turn part of it I would keep the throttle down and modulate my speed by left foot braking slightly at the part where there is an opening at the right side. Since I knew I had a lot of room at the exit of the turn I could get a really good exit speed this way.
I also found that at times I would not turn in as hard as I could because the car would sometimes understeer if I did, and then I would really loose a lot of time. So instead I would brake at about 80%, so I wouldn't lock the brakes, then I turned in a tiny bit early, but not as hard and I could hit the apex where I wanted and be able to get back on the throttle quickly.
The 80% braking also helped at the end of the straight after the 270 degree turn. I used to use the point I come out of the shadow as my braking point for the 90 degree left, but if I had really good brake control I could wait just a second longer, and every second counts.
thanks again for all the suggestions.
Peter J. Ford
I have a couple of tips I haven't seen before that might help someone else.
In the 270 degree corner after getting into the left turn part of it I would keep the throttle down and modulate my speed by left foot braking slightly at the part where there is an opening at the right side. Since I knew I had a lot of room at the exit of the turn I could get a really good exit speed this way.
I also found that at times I would not turn in as hard as I could because the car would sometimes understeer if I did, and then I would really loose a lot of time. So instead I would brake at about 80%, so I wouldn't lock the brakes, then I turned in a tiny bit early, but not as hard and I could hit the apex where I wanted and be able to get back on the throttle quickly.
The 80% braking also helped at the end of the straight after the 270 degree turn. I used to use the point I come out of the shadow as my braking point for the 90 degree left, but if I had really good brake control I could wait just a second longer, and every second counts.
thanks again for all the suggestions.
Peter J. Ford
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Heeeeellllllllllllllppppppppp!!!
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Oops, sorry. I think I should use a steering wheel instead of the normal game controler.
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Congratulations, i'm so very happy for you 👍Sime3479YES FINALLY! on about the 40th try I won by 0.009! This mission was such a headache.
You must have alot of patience and alot of time available, do you think i could borrow some of it?
please?? I'll trade you a couple F1's, any color you want..?Coz after about 15 🤬 tries, the best i can do is: 2nd @- 6.4 secs
and from there on, i'm just getting worse!!
The 2nd gear on this car, really 🤬 su*ks 👎
Master_Yoda
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i'll give you sex if you can do this mission for me
Hey guys, thefeint here. I've been living in Japan now for 4months and I just bought the Japanese version of gt4.
Reading this thread has made me see how much easier the american version of GT4 is. While most of the tests are similar a notable few are much different, and MUCH HARDer.
From what I can see the main AI car runs mission 11 at about 6'47''xx in the American Version.
So far I've managed a 6'43''852 and I was still behind by 0''.200(I was sooo damn close too)
Is there any other pointers you can give me? Sadly the ones ppl have posted here just wont work when you need to finish it in around 6'43''.5xx
Thanks alot for any help,
feint
Reading this thread has made me see how much easier the american version of GT4 is. While most of the tests are similar a notable few are much different, and MUCH HARDer.
From what I can see the main AI car runs mission 11 at about 6'47''xx in the American Version.
So far I've managed a 6'43''852 and I was still behind by 0''.200(I was sooo damn close too)
Is there any other pointers you can give me? Sadly the ones ppl have posted here just wont work when you need to finish it in around 6'43''.5xx
Thanks alot for any help,
feint
Feint i read your post so i went back and re-did this mission. I ran 6'41.8 with two 5 sec penalties at the round corner at the end of the main straight (it's midnight here in Oz and i should have gone to bed instead of racing). I will race it again to make a clean run, and make a video of it.thefeint
Well - I am tickled pink to be able to say I finally completed this mission after - literally months - of futile off and on attempts to crack it.
I took a detour and spent lots of recreational time making the rounds of all the manufacturers races to increase my A-spec point total - and had some outstanding fun 200 point races into the bargain. I'm just under 70,000 A-spec points now.
When I tackled it again, I found either my skill had improved - or the AI was simply dumbing down enough to let me win a little easier after so many failures.
Really though, I did find that once I worked at it using some predictable braking milestones eg;
the "hatched" cross walk right before the first hard left turn,
the "shadow" at the end of the next long straightaway before the "right-left-right" chicane
etc...
and using a slow and steady approach was the key. In fact I was able to beat it quite easily once I got my pacing down.
It was sooooo satisfying when I finally caught up to that lead car at the exit of the last turn before the race to the finish line - I knew he was mine from there on.
So for all you other frustrated drivers out there - keep your chin up - if I can do it anybody can.
I took a detour and spent lots of recreational time making the rounds of all the manufacturers races to increase my A-spec point total - and had some outstanding fun 200 point races into the bargain. I'm just under 70,000 A-spec points now.
When I tackled it again, I found either my skill had improved - or the AI was simply dumbing down enough to let me win a little easier after so many failures.
Really though, I did find that once I worked at it using some predictable braking milestones eg;
the "hatched" cross walk right before the first hard left turn,
the "shadow" at the end of the next long straightaway before the "right-left-right" chicane
etc...
and using a slow and steady approach was the key. In fact I was able to beat it quite easily once I got my pacing down.
It was sooooo satisfying when I finally caught up to that lead car at the exit of the last turn before the race to the finish line - I knew he was mine from there on.
So for all you other frustrated drivers out there - keep your chin up - if I can do it anybody can.
Feint,
I re-did this mission clean and made a video for you. You said you needed a time under 6'43.5
My time was 6'37.201
I passed the Cosmo on the exit of the round corner at the beginning of the third lap.
I'm converting the video now and will upload it to my site soon.
http://md-dms.twbc.net
Just click on the word videos at the top of the screen.
I re-did this mission clean and made a video for you. You said you needed a time under 6'43.5
My time was 6'37.201
I passed the Cosmo on the exit of the round corner at the beginning of the third lap.
I'm converting the video now and will upload it to my site soon.
http://md-dms.twbc.net
Just click on the word videos at the top of the screen.
Finally!! Two weeks ago I finished dreaded Missions 11-14. Missions 11 and 14 prove to be the most difficult. The basic key of this mission is to mantain your speed (don´t let it drop below 30 mph at any time). The crucial part of this test is the last hairpin, if you can exit the hairpin with 31-34 mph, you can make more than a sec. Later, I will post my trailing times and a video replay of this mission. 
Can anyone tell me how I can attach my replays and my best times into this page?
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Smallhorses
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Do you have a MAX Drive? If so, transfer files from Memory Card to MAX Drive using the program it comes with. Then plug MAX drive into PC and download the file to a directory. Search for MAX drive or AR MAX if you haven't got one, for info and where to buy one from.
Edit your post, scroll down to "Manage Attachements" Click the button and browse for the file on your PC. Click the "Upload" button, wait for it to upload and then click OK. After that your replay should appear at the bottom of your post.
