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When do you think Gran Turismo 7 will be released?
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Absolutely not a launch title, that would be great but not going to happen. Going with 2022, probably around autumn of that year.
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The fact is that if Gran Turismo 7 releases on either 2021 or 2022, it'll be more complete. Which is a great strategy, especially considering your opinion that Gran Turismo 7 would just be Gran Turismo Sport 2.0 if it's gonna release as a Launch Title. In my opinion, it's okay if PD end up releasing it approximately two years later; so I can be patient about it. 
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The fact is that if Gran Turismo 7 releases on either 2021 or 2022, it'll be more complete. Which is a great strategy, especially considering your opinion that Gran Turismo 7 would just be Gran Turismo Sport 2.0 if it's gonna release as a Launch Title. In my opinion, it's okay if PD end up releasing it approximately two years later; so I can be patient about it.
If it looks just like GT Sport I wont drop £600 for it. They could just put it on PS4.
Give it a year or two so it can look next-gen and have more.
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And... I wont be able to afford it if its a launch title.
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Longer development doesn't mean the end product will be great. Just look at what happened to GT5. I used to be against PD doing outsourcing but after seeing how inconsistent the visuals in GTSport they really need to adapt.
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I disagree but ok
The Tokyo Game Show is happening this September so maybe this is where we might get more information about GT7. Polyphony Digital has been there quite a few times with Gran Turismo news...
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This is the kind of comment people have made regarding Miles Morales (after seeing seconds of footage). Insomniac have made it clear the title will use an updated engine for PS5. It’s game structure will be designed around PS5’s architecture. These next-gen games will simply not work on PS4 hardware. Beyond even graphical upgrades.
GTS already looks photorealistic in many scenarios. Particularly replays. Next-gen will push graphical fidelity, performance, user experience (load speeds etc.). PS4 cannot run a track like Le Mans in full darkness and/or rainy conditions. Tracks with rain effects, while superficially looking great, still have clear limitations. Both in terms of dynamic rainfall, track conditions. And the low resolution spray effects and windscreen droplet limitations.
PD are always at the cutting edge of graphics technology. That will be no different with GT7.
You could be absolutely right as none of us really know. That would mean GT7 had a 5yr dev cycle. I think only GT5 took that long with all the PS3 development issues. PS4 to PS5 is more akin to an in-gen sequel. Same architecture, same dev tools, but a big boost in power.
I’ll just ask why you think Sony launched their showing with Miles Morales, GT7 & R&C. With the latter two getting significant gameplay demos. Horizon 2 is expected Q1/Q2 2021 yet we only had an in-engine trailer.
From what I’ve been reading from MS insiders. They’re expecting FM8 in 2021. That would mean FH5 22/23.
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We are indeed all guessing, but GTS also took nearly five years on a console that was touted as being easy to develop for, there are now infamous quotes from Kaz saying you wouldn't have to wait as long. We did.
You never know what PD are going to do to make development take longer. Nobody saw them remodelling all cars from scratch and even losing the premium models coming, but it happened. Obviously that specifically isn't going to happen this time, but who knows what else they plan.
Also remember, GT6 would've taken 5 years as well if they actually released it once they'd finished everything they advertised. Instead they released it unfinished in 2013 and finally finished it two years later. That was also just a sequel on the same console..
Thing is though we're basing that on what they've shown us and their reputation, what are you basing your thoughts on?
From the gameplay clip it looked a near retail ready build. Nothing stood out as shoddy or over ambitious. What I’d expect with 6-12 months of development and polish to go.
I say 12 months, in the context of it still being a launch game, because we don’t know when the build was from. Initial reports stated Sony planned the PS5 reveal in February, hesitated, then Corona hit. So we ended up with a June reveal. 1st party teams could have had their demo reels ready from the start of the year.
What we didn’t see was any confirmation of dynamic lighting, weather, rain (tracks) etc. But, in a marketing cycle, you’d roll such things out at an opportune time. CaRPG, Trial Mountain and Ray Tracing was enough for a 2-3 minute reveal trailer.
We only saw screens of the UI and car tuning. But development could have started very early with little cross-over with GTS once that title released.
If GT7 was two or more years away. I think we’d have seen a CGI trailer. If anything.
No but we have already discussed it.
The fact is that PoDi is present from the first event of PS5 and they were able to show gameplay in a very correct state : menu, tuning, and lap on Trial Mountain gives confidence that GT7 is already advanced. Sony wouldn't have allowed PoDi to unveil GT7 in their first event if they weren't ready by 2021.
In addition, they use same engine which will accelerate development as Spiderman MM and other exclusives. GT7 is in development since GT Sport, or even before and they stopped updates (content) in order to enter final phase of development.
Why did you not bold the last part of the sentence? It's a fact that it looked mostly the same as GTS, just with slightly better lighting and fidelity, as I said. What else looked or sounded different? Please, do educate us on what we missed. Was there dynamic weather we didn't see (No, a cloud moving doesn't count)? Damage? New features?
Haha, you think a demo of a race on one track and some mockup menus rife with errors give confidence they have almost a whole game ready? HOW?! In anyone else's world, that's a tiny demo.
How many other tracks are ready? How many cars? What about features? You don't know.
As for Sony "not allowing" it, I can only laugh again. They've constantly "let" PD show off games years before they're ready.
- Gran Turismo 2000 was shown off at E3 2000 with launch titles and got delayed, released at GT3 a year later.
- Gran Turismo 4 Mobile was one of the very first titles shown for PSP at E3 2004. That game, with a new name, released in....2009.
- They showed off their PS3 demo at E3 2005, which funnily enough was similar to GT7 in that it was just GT4 with extra bells and whistles. They continued showing it as it developed into GT5 which released 5 years later.
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So you're not going to cite what makes the footage so different to GTS then? If you want to believe the whole game is in a "very good state" because they showed off one track with everything looking 90% the same as GTS then you do you, I prefer to go on what we actually see, and that isn't very much.
I'm not stuck in the past, you claimed Sony wouldn't let them show off an early game, what on earth else am I supposed to use to prove you wrong but examples from the past where they did just that?
Here is another one, more recent for you, they let PD show off GT Sport in 2015 when it was clearly far from finished, as evidenced by the infamous flat tree wall at Nurburgring, and the fact it came out two years later.
If they show us a lot more in the next few months then fair enough, we'll see they are far along, but I'm only commenting on the now.
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I have very high hopes that PD will disappoint you all by in fact actually making GT7 a launch title but I know it's most likely to be in 2021. 
Has not stopped me from making plans to pre-order PS5 for release day! Have never bought a console at launch before as have always waited for price drops/games to be released but this time I want to have everything ready for when the game is out!
If more info comes during 2020 then we'll see what the comments are then!
Has not stopped me from making plans to pre-order PS5 for release day! Have never bought a console at launch before as have always waited for price drops/games to be released but this time I want to have everything ready for when the game is out!
If more info comes during 2020 then we'll see what the comments are then!
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GT6 was on time - in fact, thanks to shops in Bahrain, it was three days early. The original planned launch date was December 6 2013 (revealed in August 2013) and it met that date - the digital version actually went up on December 5.
I don't recall what GT2's planned launch date was, but I suspect it was met as the finished product was somewhat rushed...
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You can not go by previous histoy of a company, because things are made different now than way back.
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Motortoon Grandpix 1/2, GT1, GT2, Omega Boost, GT3, GT4, Tourist Trophy. Did any of these games got delayed? It seems their struggle started during the PS3 era.
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