American Soldiers in Iraq
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OK. The world is already pissed at us for invading Iraq. So it's going to float like a sack of nickles when we invade Syria and Iran, I'm sure. Next idea, Einstein?PS
Actually, the Iraqis we're up against in Iraq are Sunnis and former Baathists, who used to have all the political power even though they are a small minority in population (think South Africa under apartheid). Yes, these are the same Sunnis who boycotted the elections earlier this year. Duh.Takumi Fujiwara
However, a very large portion of the terrorists are in fact coming over the borders into Iraq and are not native in any way.
And if you think we're "ruining" the regular Iraqis lives, you better do a little study on what life was like under Saddam-baby.
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EXACTLY! In my personal opinion, these people who say we're ruining their lives in Iraq need to be thanking us! We got rid of Saddam, a man who brutely murdered innocent people if they even made a comment he didn't like.
Sure, we didn't find the "weapons of mass destruction" he was hiding, but at least we got him!
If that isn't enough for anyone here, and that still think America has made Iraq worse, I suggest you all look up the story of the young Iraq girl who saved a Convey's life. We have made a difference in their lives. Many don't like it, but many accept it and return the favor.
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Takumi Fujiwara
Really? Talk about being brainwashed. Are you going to let Al Gore speak for you?
Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam
"Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezbollah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States. In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the government of Iraq."
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040624-112921-3401r.htm
9/11 commission vice chairman, Lee Hamilton
"The vice president is saying, I think, that there were connections between Al Qaeda and the Saddam Hussein government. We don't disagree with that. What we have said is what the governor (Commission Chairman Thomas Kean) just said, we don't have any evidence of a cooperative, or a corroborative, relationship between Saddam Hussein's government and these Al Qaeda operatives with regard to the attacks on the United States."
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michaelbarone/mb20040628.shtml
Al Qaeda-tied terrorist nabbed in Iraq
"(Abu Musab al) Zarqawi was said to have received medical treatment in Baghdad in May and June of 2002 after being wounded in Afghanistan during the war. His leg was amputated, U.S. officials say, by a surgeon in Iraq. Before the war, Secretary of State Colin Powell pointed to Zarqawi's al Qaeda-affiliated group that he said was operating inside Baghdad, as evidence of ties between al Qaeda and Iraq." -- Today, Abu Musab al Zarqawi, who was in Iraq before the war began, is leading terrorist attacks against the Coalition and Iraqi people.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/29/sprj.irq.terrorist.capture/
Sarin
MiG-25
AS-9
I could go on, I think those three are good enough.
Do you want to show that proof? Where is it?
The Connection
In a story aired in a prime time news magazine show on Thursday, January 14, 1999, then-ABC News correspondent Sheila MacVicar reported how a few months after the embassy bombings in Africa and U.S. retaliation against Sudan, bin Laden reaches out to his friends in Iraq and Sudan. MacVicar trumpeted how ABC News has learned that in December, an Iraqi intelligence chief, named Farouk Hijazi, now Iraq's ambassador to Turkey, made a secret trip to Afghanistan to meet with bin Laden. Three intelligence agencies tell ABC News they cannot be certain what was discussed, but almost certainly, they say, bin Laden has been told he would be welcome in Baghdad.
http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2004/cyb20040617.asp#1
Video (.ram): http://www.mediaresearch.org/rm/cyber/2004/binladen061704/segment1.ram
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The world may be pissed at you for invading Iraq, but I'm pissed at Bush for not holding to his word and going after Osama Bin Laden. The guy responsible for 3060 deaths in 2 major attacks. He made it clear early on that he knew Osama was in Afghanistan. And what does he do? Oust Hussein.
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I wish Britain and Canada didn't have to go in too, this makes us a target too. UN sucks.
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I never said anything about Iraq I'm talking about Afghanistan. Osama bin ******cker decided Canada was the enemy too, just because our Peacekeepers were on Afghan soil.
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NO WE WERE NOT TARGETS UNTIL WE WENT INTO AFGHANISTAN.PS
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Seriously, Cananda most likely wont be hit. If Al Queda can get into North America, they're going to hit the US.the_undrtaker89
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its easy for people to say " oh we're doing the right thing by going out there blah blah blah" when you dont have somone out there fighting and you know everytime some news comes up about some soldiers being killed by a bomb or something you wait with your heart in your throat to hear a name that shouldn't be there. you guys say "yeah we did it was because revenge", well thats stupid that just shows we're no better than them, "oh but we freed iraq from saddam", at the cost of how many lives? on both sides? my dad is in iraq, and he calls everyday, but when he doesnt call for more than 2 days we get worried, most of you guys have no idea what that is like. 
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Try having your father in Vietnam and have the risk of never being born.EvilToastits easy for people to say " oh we're doing the right thing by going out there blah blah blah" when you dont have somone out there fighting and you know everytime some news comes up about some soldiers being killed by a bomb or something you wait with your heart in your throat to hear a name that shouldn't be there. you guys say "yeah we did it was because revenge", well thats stupid that just shows we're no better than them, "oh but we freed iraq from saddam", at the cost of how many lives? on both sides? my dad is in iraq, and he calls everyday, but when he doesnt call for more than 2 days we get worried, most of you guys have no idea what that is like.
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Omg ok, we went into Afghanistan in Feb 2002 and he released the list in 2004. there.
What? Canada and Italy are the only countries remaining on his list that have not been hit yet. In addition we are holding the 2010 olympics, we are in Afghanistan too, canada is just as much a enemy as the states are. The only thing is the US is the country that itially pissed off Al Queda..
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Originally Posted by EvilToast
its easy for people to say " oh we're doing the right thing by going out there blah blah blah" when you dont have somone out there fighting and you know everytime some news comes up about some soldiers being killed by a bomb or something you wait with your heart in your throat to hear a name that shouldn't be there. you guys say "yeah we did it was because revenge", well thats stupid that just shows we're no better than them, "oh but we freed iraq from saddam", at the cost of how many lives? on both sides? my dad is in iraq, and he calls everyday, but when he doesnt call for more than 2 days we get worried, most of you guys have no idea what that is like.
I feel sorry for you man, I am so against war. But there are people that think that war is this glorious thing, but it isn't and it's hell for both solidiers and their families. And so what if the US is a power house, you can't just say go to war, you have no idea what war is like.
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You need to read my sig, undertaker.
War is an ugly thing,
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War is an ugly thing,
but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions
of better men than himself. - John Stuart Mill
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That guy died more than 100 years ago and why the hell do you want me to read that? You think I'm a pushover or something. War has to been done sometimes, I know that, but in this case it isn't needed anymore. Obiviously they needed to go to war against Hitler. Don't just start throwing quotes around like your some great historian.
Right now more people are suffering from the war then are becoming happy because of it. Who cares what some utilitarist said some 100 years ago. This war isn't utilitarian.
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Jesus christ you don't need a friggin list! In there it proves that Canada went into Iraq in 2002, and everyone knows that Osama let out the list in 2004. If you want a list go find it yourself. I'm too lazy to find it.
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The list?Or what? Even if the list came out 2003 your still wrong.
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No, what you told me before was that Canada was already a target before we entered Afghanistan. You were wrong. I don't care about you saying it was a couple years ago.
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Am I the only one to read the Al quieda training manual????
OK I'll simlify it for you:
Terrorism is not event specific, the goal of Al Qaeda is to remove all godless regiemes and replace them with one unified fundimentalist Islamic one. It does not matter what we or anyone else does, the West are still the bad guys. Both Spain and Germany have faced Al Qaeda attacks (Germany was a failed attempt.) Al Qaeda was active long before 9/11 and launched attacks on europe during that time.
OK I'll simlify it for you:Terrorism is not event specific, the goal of Al Qaeda is to remove all godless regiemes and replace them with one unified fundimentalist Islamic one. It does not matter what we or anyone else does, the West are still the bad guys. Both Spain and Germany have faced Al Qaeda attacks (Germany was a failed attempt.) Al Qaeda was active long before 9/11 and launched attacks on europe during that time.
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I think it is great that teh troops manage to have a laugh while they are out there.
http://unoriginal.co.uk/newvideos/-UNORIGINAL.CO.UK - Amarillo.wmv
Some might rememeber that ^. Gotta love how the Americans blow stuf up and the Brits make pop videos
http://unoriginal.co.uk/newvideos/-UNORIGINAL.CO.UK - Amarillo.wmv
Some might rememeber that ^. Gotta love how the Americans blow stuf up and the Brits make pop videos
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