How many is it really?

First of all, just thought I'd say hi, just found this site, and just got my GT4 on Friday, and my ultimate goal is to try and get every single car in the game, every version of every car. I've already got all golds on B and A license, and all silvers on I-B and close to all silver on I-A. Having fun with photo mode too, I'll be posting some pics I take soon.

Back to what I really posted for...............I've looked through multiple threads, and seen "official" car lists for the NTSC version, but for some reason all the lists show different numbers as for how many cars there really are. What is the REAL official number?? What's the confirmation on it too, doesn't Sony or PD have an official number they can give us??

706 cars in the Asian version. And it's even on GTP! The number varies from version to version. That's probably the source of discrepencies.

I know it's there, and many other places, but I wanted to know which is the real official list. Thanks for clearing that up though, the list I have is 723. I've seen lists that go anywhere from 650 to 750.

I have 732 cars in my garage, but i´d say the real number is 728. No doubles at all that is. This is PAL though.

The Official US site has a list of 720 cars: http://www.us.playstation.com/Content/OGS/SCUS-97328/Site/

Without the useless (different model year) and nearly useless (different trim level) repeats, the real number is probably somewhere in the low/mid 600's. Maybe even lower.

and then, cut out those 400 different Evo's, Skylines and Imprezas.. and we have mere 300 cars or so.

Leonidae

and then, cut out those 400 different Evo's, Skylines and Imprezas.. and we have mere 300 cars or so.

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...which is still more than what most of other games have

and I wasn't even counting all those civics..

And RX7s

I've decided to create a condensed car list for GT4. I'm basically condensing any cars that share the same basic chassis/body. I'm trying to be fair and get as much as I can without going cross-generation, but that isn't so easy from this computer, not having GT4 handy (I'm at school), 'cause I can't really find a site with pictures of every car.

I've made it to Mitsubishi thus far, and have already trimmed the number from 750 to 573. I gotta go to class now, though, so I'll continue when I get home.

I'm going to create a car list of what I think should have been kept and what should have been lost.

Wanted to do this some time ago but never felt like taking the time nor did I have the energy.

If no one has posted by the time I am done, I will just edit this post.
Hope to have the list by the end of the night.
Till then,
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Alright, I've got the condensed list.

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AC Cobra 427 S/C ('66) Shelby Cobra 427 ('67)

Acura CL 3.2 Type-S ('01) Acura CL 3.2 Type-S ('03)

Acura DN-X ('02)

Acura HSC “Honda Sports Concept” ('04)

Acura Integra Type-R ('01) Honda Integra Type R (DC2) ('95) Honda Integra Type R (DC2) ('98) Honda Integra Type R ('99) Honda Integra Type R Touring Car ('02) Spoon Integra Type-R (DC2) ('99)

Acura NSX ('91) Acura NSX ('04) Acura NSX Coupe ('97) Honda ARTA NSX (JGTC) ('00) Honda Castrol Mugen NSX (JGTC) ('00) Honda Loctite Mugen NSX (JGTC) ('01) Honda Mobil 1 NSX (JGTC) ('01) Honda NSX ('90) Honda NSX ('93) Honda NSX ('95) Honda NSX ('97) Honda NSX ('99) Honda NSX ('01) Honda NSX Type R ('92) Honda NSX Type R ('02) Honda NSX Type S ('97) Honda NSX Type S ('99) Honda NSX Type S ('01) Honda NSX Type S Zero ('97) Honda NSX Type S Zero ('99) Honda NSX-R Concept ('01) Honda NSX-R LM Edition Race Car ('02) Honda NSX-R LM Edition Road Car ('02) Honda Raybrig NSX (JGTC) ('00) Honda Takata Dome NSX (JGTC) ('03)

Acura RSX Type-S ('04) Honda Integra Type R (DC5) ('03)

Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 Twin Spark ('02) Alfa Romeo 147 GTA ('02)

Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI Race Car ('93)

Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V ('98)

Alfa Romeo 166 2.5 V6 24V ('98)

Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale ('63)

Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600 ('65)

Alfa Romeo GTV 3.0 V6 24V ('01)

Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V ('04)

Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 “Duetto” ('66)

Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0i V6 24V ('01)

Alpine A110 1600S ('73)

Alpine A310 1600VE ('73)

Amuse S2000 GT1 ('04) Amuse S2000 R1 ('04) Amuse S2000 Street Version ('04) Honda Mugen S2000 ('00) Honda S2000 ('99) Honda S2000 ('04) Honda S2000 ('01) Honda S2000 LM Race Car ('01) Honda S2000 Type-V ('00) Honda S2000 Type-V ('01) Honda S2000 Type V ('03) Opera S2000 ('04) Spoon S2000 ('00) Spoon S2000 Race Car ('00)

ASL ARTA Garaiya (JGTC) ('03) ASL Garaiya ('02)

Aston Martin DB7 Vantage Coupe ('00)

Aston Martin DB9 Coupe ('03)

Aston Martin Vanquish ('04)

Aston Martin V8 Vantage ('99)

Audi A2 1.4 ('02)

Audi A3 3.2 Quattro ('03) Audi S3 ('02)

Audi A4 Touring Car ('04) Audi S4 ('03)

Audi S4 ('98) Audi RS 4 ('01)

Audi Auto Union V16 Type C Streamline ('37)

Audi R8 ('01)

Audi RS 6 ('02) Audi RS 6 Avant ('02)

Audi Quattro ('82)

Audi TT 1.8T Quattro ('00) Audi TT 1.8T Quattro ('00) Audi TT 3.2 Quattro ('03)

Audi LeMans Quattro ('03)

Audi Nuvolari Quattro ('03)

Audi Pikes Peak Quattro ('03)

Autobianchi A112 Abarth ('79)

Bentley Speed 8 Race Car ('03)

BMW 120d ('04) BMW 120i ('04)

BMW 2002 Turbo ('73)

BMW 320i Touring Car ('03) BMW M3 ('04) BMW M3 CSL ('03) BMW M3 GTR ('03) BMW M3 GTR Race Car ('01)

BMW 330i ('05)

BMW M Coupe ('98)

BMW M5 ('05)

BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car ('97)

BMW V12 LMR Race Car ('99)

BMW Z4 ('03)

Buick GNX ('87)

Buick Special ('62)

Cadillac Cien ('02)

Callaway C12 ('03)

Caterham Seven Fire Blade ('02)

Chaparral 2D Race Car ('67)

Chaparral 2J Race Car ('70)

Chevrolet Camaro SS 350 ('69) Chevrolet Camaro Z28 302 ('69)

Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z Concept ('88)

Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Coupe ('97)

Chevrolet Camaro SS ('00)

Chevrolet Camaro LM Edition ('01)

Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 ('70)

Chevrolet Corvette Convertible ('54)

Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray ('63) Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Race Car ('63)

Chevrolet Corvette Stingray L46 350 ('69)

Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 ('90) Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport ('96)

Chevrolet Corvette Z06 ('00) Chevrolet Corvette C5R Race Car ('00)

Chevrolet Silverado SST Concept ('02)

Chevrolet SSR ('03)

Chrysler 300C ('05)

Chrysler Crossfire ('04)

Chrysler Prowler ('02)

Chrysler PT Cruiser ('00)

Citroën 2CV Type A ('54)

Citroën C3 1.6 ('02)

Citroën C5 V6 Exclusive ('03)

Citroën Xantia 3.0i V6 Exclusive ('00)

Citroën Xsara Rally Car ('99) Citroën Xsara VTR ('03)

Cizeta Moroder V16T ('94)

Daihatsu Copen Active Top ('02) Daihatsu Copen Detachable Top ('02)

Daihatsu Midget ('63)

Daihatsu Midget II D-Type ('98)

Daihatsu Mira TR-XX Avanzato R ('97)

Daihatsu Move CX ('95) Daihatsu Move SR-XX 2WD ('97) Daihatsu Move SR-XX 4WD ('97) Daihatsu Move Custom RS Limited ('02)

Daihatsu Storia CX 2WD ('98) Daihatsu Storia CX 4WD ('98) Daihatsu Storia X4 ('00)

DMC DeLorean S2 ('04)

Dodge Charger 440 R/T ('70) Dodge Charger Super Bee 426 Hemi ('71)

Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie Hemi Quad Cab ('04)

Dodge SRT-4 ('03)

Dodge Viper GTS ('99) Dodge Viper GTSR Concept ('00) Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca ('00)

Dodge Viper SRT-10 ('03)

Dome Zero Concept ('78)

Fiat 500F ('65) Fiat 500F ('65) Fiat 500L ('69) Fiat 500R ('72)

Fiat Barchetta Giovane Due ('00)

Fiat Coupé Turbo Plus ('00)

Fiat Panda Super i.e. ('90)

Fiat Punto HGT Abarth ('00)

Ford Escort Rally Car ('98)

Ford Falcon XR8 Race Car ('00)

Ford Focus Rally Car ('99) Ford Focus RS ('02) Ford Focus ST170 ('03)

Ford GT40 Race Car ('69)

Ford GT Concept ('02) Ford GT LM Edition ('02) Ford GT LM Edition Spec-II ('04) Ford GT ('05)

Ford Ka ('01)

Ford Model T Tourer ('15)

Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R ('00)

Ford Mustang GT ('05)

Ford RS200 ('84) Ford RS200 Rally Car ('85)

Ford SVT F-150 Lightning ('03)

Ford Taurus SHO ('98)

FPV F6 Typhoon ('04) FPV GT ('04)

Gillet Vertigo Race Car ('04)

Ginetta G4 ('64)

Holden Commodore SS Series II ('04)

Hommell Berlinetta R/S Coupe ('99)

Honda 1300 Coupe 9 S ('70)

Honda Accord Coupe ('88)

Honda Accord Coupe EX ('03)

Honda Accord Euro R ('00) Honda Accord Euro R ('02)

Honda Ballade Sport CR-X 1.5i ('83)

Honda Beat ('91) Honda Beat Version F ('92) Honda Beat Version Z ('93)

Honda City Turbo II ('83)

Honda Civic 1500 3door CX ('79)

Honda Civic 1500 3door 25i ('83)

Honda Civic SiR-II (EG) ('91) Honda Civic SiR-II (EG) ('92) Honda Civic SiR-II (EG) ('93) Honda Civic SiR-II (EG) ('95)

Honda Civic Type R ('97) Honda Civic Type R (EK) ('98) Honda Gathers Drider Civic Race Car ('98) Spoon Civic Type R (EK) ('00)

Honda Civic Type R (EP) ('01) Honda Civic Type R (EP) ('04)

Honda CR-X SiR ('90)

Honda CR-X del Sol SiR ('92)

Honda Element ('03)

Honda Fit W ('01) Spoon Fit Race Car ('03)

Honda HSC “Honda Sports Concept” ('03)

Honda Insight Hybrid ('99)

Honda Life Step Van ('72)

Honda Mugen Motul Civic Si Race Car ('87)

Honda N360 ('67) Honda N360 ('67)

Honda Odyssey ('03)

Honda Prelude Si VTEC ('91)

Honda Prelude SiR S spec ('98) Honda Prelude SiR ('96) Honda Prelude Type S ('96) Honda Prelude Type S ('98)

Honda S500 ('63) Honda S500 ('63) Honda S600 ('64) Honda S600 ('64) Honda S800 ('66) Honda S800 ('66) Honda S800 RSC Race Car ('68)

Honda Today G ('85)

Honda Z Act ('70) Honda Z Act ('70)

Hyundai Accent Rally Car ('01)

Hyundai Clix ('01)

Hyundai HCD6 ('01)

Hyundai Tiburon GT ('01)

Infiniti FX45 Concept ('02)

Infiniti G20 ('90)

Isuzu 117 Coupé ('68) Isuzu 117 Coupé ('68)

Isuzu Bellett 1600 GT-R ('69) Isuzu Bellett 1600 GT-R ('69)

Isuzu Piazza XE ('81)

Jaguar E-Type Coupe ('61)

Jaguar S-Type R ('02)

Jaguar XJ220 ('92) Jaguar XJ220 LM Race Car ('01)

Jaguar XJR9 Race Car ('88)

Jaguar XKR Coupe ('99) Jaguar XKR R-Performance ('02)

Jay Leno Tank Car ('03)

Jensen-Healey Interceptor Mk.III ('74) Jensen-Healey Interceptor Mk.III ('74)

Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione ('91) Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione ('91) Lancia Delta HF Integrale Rally Car ('92)

Lancia Delta S4 Rally Car ('85)

Lancia Stratos ('73) Lancia Stratos Rally Car ('77)

Land Rover Range Stormer Concept ('04)

Lister Storm V12 Race Car ('99)

Lexus GS300 ('91)

Lexus GS300 ('00) Lexus GS300 Vertex Edition (J) ('00)

Lexus SC300 ('97)

Lexus SC430 ('01)

Lotus Carlton ('90)

Lotus Elan S1 ('62)

Lotus Elise Sport 190 ('98) Lotus Motor Sport Elise ('99)

Lotus Elise ('00) Lotus Elise Type-72 ('01) Lotus Elise 111S ('03) Lotus Elise 111R ('04)

Lotus Esprit Turbo HC ('87)

Lotus Esprit V8 GT ('98) Lotus Esprit V8 SE ('98) Lotus Esprit Sport 350 ('00) Lotus Esprit V8 ('02)

Lotus Europa Special ('71)

Marcos Mini Marcos GT ('70)

Mazda 110S (L10A) ('67) Mazda 110S (L10B) ('68) Mazda 110S (L10B) ('68)

Mazda 323F ('93)

Mazda 787B Race Car ('91) Mazda 787B Race Car (Black) ('91)

Mazda Autozam AZ-1 ('92)

Mazda BP Falken RX-7 (D1GP) ('03) Mazda RX-7 GT-Limited (FC,J) ('85) Mazda RX-7 GT-X (FC) ('90) Mazda RX-7 Infini III (FC) ('90)

Mazda Carol 360 Deluxe ('62) Mazda Carol 360 Deluxe ('62)

Mazda Demio (J) ('99) Mazda Demio Sport ('03)

Mazda Kusabi ('03)

Mazda Mazda6 Concept ('01) Mazda Mazda6 Touring Car ('02) Mazda Mazda6 5-door ('03) Mazda Mazdaspeed 6 ('05)

Mazda MX-5 Miata ('89) Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited (J) ('91) Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited II (J) ('93) Mazda MX-5 Miata V-Special Type II ('93) Mazda MX-5 Miata S-Special Type I (J) ('95) Mazda MX-5 Miata VR-Limited (J) ('95) Mazda MX-5 Miata SR-Limited ('97)

Mazda MX-5 Miata 1.8 RS (J) ('98) Mazda MX-5 Miata 1800 RS ('00) Mazda MX-5 Miata 1600 NR-A (NB) ('04) Mazda MX-5 Miata 1800 RS (NB) ('04)

Mazda MX-Crossport ('05)

Mazda Protegé ('02)

Mazda RX-7 Type R (FD, J) ('91) Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) ('92) Mazda RX-7 Type R (FD, J) ('93) Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) ('93) Mazda RX-7 Type R-S (FD, J) ('95) Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) ('95) Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD, J) ('96) Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD) ('96) Mazda RX-7 Type RS-R (FD) ('97) Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD) ('98) Mazda RX-7 Type RS (FD) ('00) Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD) ('00) Mazda RX-7 LM Edition ('01) Mazda RX-7 Type R Bathurst R (FD) ('01) Mazda RX-7 SPIRIT R Type A (FD) ('02) R.E. Amemiya RX-7 (Aspara Drink JGTC) ('04)

Mazda RX-8 Concept (Type I) ('01) Mazda RX-8 Concept (Type II) ('01) Mazda RX-8 LM Edition ('01) Mazda RX-8 ('03) Mazda RX-8 Type E ('03) Mazda RX-8 Type S ('03)

Mercedes-Benz 190 E 2.5-16V Evolution II ('91) Mercedes-Benz AMG 190 E 2.5-16V Evolution ...

Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Coupe ('54)

Mercedes-Benz A 160 Avant Garde ('98)

Mercedes-Benz AMG CLK-GTR Race Car ('98)

Mercedes-Benz Benz Patent Motor-Wagen ('86)

Mercedes-Benz CL 600 ('00)

Mercedes-Benz CLK Touring Car ('00)

Mercedes-Benz Daimler Motor Carriage ('86)

Mercedes-Benz E 55 AMG ('02)

Mercedes-Benz Sauber Mercedes C9 ('89)

Mercedes-Benz SL 500 ('98)

Mercedes-Benz SL 500 (R230) ('02) Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R230) ('02) Mercedes-Benz SL 65 AMG (R230) ('04) Mercedes-Benz SL 600 (R230) ('04)

Mercedes-Benz SL 600 (R129) ('98)

Mercedes-Benz SLK 230 Kompressor ('98)

Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren ('03)

Mercury Cougar XR-7 ('67) Mercury Cougar XR-7 ('67)

MG F ('97)

MG TF 160 ('03)

Mini Cooper 1.3i ('98)

Mini Cooper ('02) Mini Cooper S ('02) Mini One ('02)

Mitsubishi 3000GT MR ('95) Mitsubishi 3000GT SL (J) ('95) Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Turbo (J) ('95) Mitsubishi 3000GT SL ('96) Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Turbo (J) ('96) Mitsubishi 3000GT MR (J) ('98) Mitsubishi 3000GT SL ('98) Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 ('98)

Mitsubishi Airtrek Turbo-R ('02)

Mitsubishi Colt Galant GTO MR ('70) Mitsubishi Colt Galant GTO MR ('70)

Mitsubishi Colt 1.5 Sport-X Version ('02)

Mitsubishi CZ-3 Tarmac Concept ('01) Mitsubishi CZ-3 Tarmac Rally Car ('02)

Mitsubishi Eclipse GT ('95) Eagle Talon ESi ('97)

Mitsubishi Eclipse GT ('06)

Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder GTS ('03)

Mitsubishi FTO GPX ('94) Mitsubishi FTO GR ('94) Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R ('97) Mitsubishi FTO GPX ('97) Mitsubishi FTO GR ('97) Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R ('99) Mitsubishi FTO GPX ('99) Mitsubishi FTO Super Touring Car ('97)

Mitsubishi Galant 2.0 DOHC Turbo VR-4 ('89)

Mitsubishi HSR-II Concept ('89)

Mitsubishi i Concept ('03)

Mitsubishi Lancer 1600 GSR ('73) Mitsubishi Lancer 1600 GSR Rally Car ('74)

Mitsubishi Lancer EX 1800GSR IC Turbo ('83)

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution GSR ('92) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution II GSR ('94) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III GSR ('95)

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV GSR ('96) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV Rally Car ('97) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V GSR ('98) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI RS ('99) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR ('99) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI Rally Car ('99) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI RS T.M.E. ('00) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR T.M.E. ... Mine’s Lancer Evolution VI GSR ('00)

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII RS ('01) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII GSR ('01) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII GT-A ('02) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII RS ('03) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR ('03) Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII Super Ral... Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR ('04)

Mitsubishi Legnum VR-4 Type V ('98)

Mitsubishi Minica Dangan ZZ ('89)

Mitsubishi Mirage 1400GLX ('78)

Mitsubishi Mirage Cyborg ZR ('97)

Mitsubishi Pajero Rally Raid Car ('85)

Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution Super Produtio...

Mitsubishi Starion 4WD Rally Car ('84)

Nike One ('22)

Nissan 240ZG (HS30) ('71)

Nissan 300ZX 2seater (Z32) ('89) Nissan 300ZX 2by2 (Z32) ('98) Nissan 300ZX 2seater (Z32) ('98)

Nissan 350Z Concept LM Race Car ('02) Nissan 350Z (Z33) ('03) Nissan 350Z Roadster (Z33) ('03) Nissan 350Z GT4 Limited Edition (Z33) ('05) Nissan Fairlady Z Version ST (Option Wheel... Nissan Fairlady Z (Option Stream Tuner) ('04) Nissan Motul Pitwork Z (JGTC) ('04) Nissan Nismo Fairlady Z S-Tune GT Aero (Z3... Nissan Nismo Fairlady Z Z-Tune (Z33) ('03) Opera 350Z ('04)

Nissan Be-1 ('87)

Nissan Bluebird 1600 Deluxe (510) ('69) Nissan Bluebird 1600 Deluxe (510) ('69) Nissan Bluebird 1600SSS Rally Car (510) ('69)

Nissan Bluebird HT 1800SSS ('79)

Nissan Cube X ('98)

Nissan Cube EX (FF/CVT) ('02)

Nissan EXA Canopy L.A. Version Type S ('88)

Nissan Fairlady 2000 (SR311) ('68) Nissan Fairlady 2000 (SR311) ('68)

Nissan Fairlady Z 280Z-L 2seater (S130) ('78)

Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX (Z31) ('83)

Nissan GT-R Concept (TokyoShow) ('01) Nissan GT-R LM Edition ('02)

Nissan March G# ('99) Nissan mm-R Cup Car ('01) Nissan Micra ('03)

Nissan Pao ('89)

Nissan Primera 20V ('01)

Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car ('98) Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car (Black) ('98) Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car ('98)

Nissan R89C Race Car ('89)

Nissan R92CP Race Car ('92) Nissan R92CP Race Car (Black) ('92)

Nissan Silvia (CSP311) ('65) Nissan Silvia ('65)

Nissan Silvia 240RS (S110) ('83) Nissan Silvia 240RS Rally Car ('85)

Nissan Silvia K’s (S13) ('88) Nissan Sileighty ('98) Nissan Silvia Q’s (S13) ('88) Nissan Silvia K’s (S13) ('91) Nissan Silvia Q’s (S13) ('91)

Nissan Silvia K’s Aero (S14) ('93) Nissan Nismo 270R ('94) Nissan Silvia Q’s Aero (S14) ('93) Nissan 240SX ('96) Nissan 240SX (S14) ('96) Nissan Silvia Q’s Aero (S14) ('96)

Nissan C-West RaZo Silvia (JGTC) ('01) HKS Genki Hyper Silvia RS2 (D1GP) ('04) Nissan Silvia Spec-R Aero (S15) ('99) Nissan Silvia Spec-S Aero (S15) ('99) Nissan Silvia Varietta (S15) ('00)

Nissan Skyline Sport Coupe (BLRA-3) ('62)

Nissan Skyline 1500 Deluxe (S50D-1) ('63) Nissan Skyline 1500 Deluxe (S50D-1) ('63)

Nissan Skyline 2000GT-B (S54A) ('67)

Nissan Skyline HT 2000GT-R (KPGC10) ('70)

Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R (KPGC110) ('73) Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R (KPGC110) ('73)

Nissan Skyline HT 2000 Turbo RS ('83) Nissan Skyline HT 2000 RS-X Turbo C ('84)

Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31) ('87)

Nissan Calsonic Skyline GT-R (JGTC) ('93) Nissan Nismo Skyline GT-R S-Tune (R32) ('90) Nissan Skyline GT-R (R32) ('89) Nissan Skyline GTS-t Type M (R32) ('89) Nissan Skyline GT-R (R32) ('91) Nissan Skyline GT-R N1 (R32) ('91) Nissan Skyline GTS25 Type S (R32) ('91) Nissan Skyline GTS-t Type M (R32) ('91) Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec (R32) ('93) Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec N1 (R32) ('93) Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II (R32) ('94)

Nissan Nismo GT-R LM Roadgoing Version ('95) Nissan Nismo 400R (R33) ('96) Nissan Skyline GT-R (R33) ('95) Nissan Skyline GT-R N1 (R33) ('95) Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec (R33) ('95) Nissan Skyline GT-R (R33) ('96) Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec (R33) ('96) Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec LM Limited (R33... Nissan Skyline GT-R (R33) ('97) Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec (R33) ('97)

Amuse Carbon R (R34) ('04) Blitz Skyline ER34 D1spec 2004 ('04) Mine’s Skyline GT-R N1 V-spec (R34) ('00) Nissan Falken GT-R Race Car ('04) Nissan Loctite Zexel GT-R (JGTC) ('00) Nissan Calsonic Skyline GT-R (JGTC) ('00) Nissan Nismo Skyline GT-R R-Tune (R34) ('99) Nissan Pennzoil Nismo GT-R (JGTC) ('99) Nissan Pennzoil Zexel GT-R (JGTC) ('01) Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34) ('99) Nissan Skyline GT-R Midnight Purple II (R3... Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec (R34) ('99) Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec N1 (R34) ('99) Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34) ('00) Nissan Skyline GT-R Midnight Purple III (R... Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II (R34) ('00) Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II N1 (R34) ('00) Nissan Skyline GT-R (GT Pace Car) ('01) Nissan Skyline GT-R (GT Version) ('01) Nissan Skyline GT-R M-spec (R34) ('01) Nissan Skyline GT-R M-spec Nür (R34) ('02) Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II Nür (R34) ('02) Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R (JGTC) ('01) Nissan Xanavi Nismo GT-R (JGTC) ('03)

Nissan Stagea 25t RS Four S ('98) Nissan Stagea 260RS Autech Version ('98)

Nissan Skyline Sedan 300GT ('01) Nissan Skyline Sedan 350GT-8 ('02) Infiniti G35 Coupe ('03) Infiniti G35 Sedan ('03)

Opel Astra Touring Car ('00)

Opel Calibra Touring Car ('94)

Opel Corsa Comfort 1.4 ('01)

Opel Speedster ('00) Opel Speedster Turbo ('00)

Opel Tigra 1.6i ('99)

Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 ('03)

Pagani Zonda C12 ('00) Pagani Zonda C12S ('00) Pagani Zonda C12S 7.3 ('02) Pagani Zonda LM Race Car ('01)

Panoz Esperante GTR-1 Race Car ('98)

Pescarolo Courage C60/Peugeot Race Car ('03) Pescarolo PlayStation C60/Judd Race Car ('04)

Peugeot 106 Rallye ('03) Peugeot 106 S16 ('03)

Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 ('85) Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 ('85) Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Evolution 2 Rally Car... Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Rally Car ('85)

Peugeot 206 CC ('01) Peugeot 206 Rally Car ('99) Peugeot 206 RC ('03) Peugeot 206 S16 ('99)

Peugeot 307 XSi ('04)

Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 Coupé ('98)

Peugeot 905 Race Car ('92)

Plymouth `Cuda 440 Six Pack ('71)

Plymouth Superbird ('70)

Polyphony Formula Gran Turismo ('04)

Pontiac Tempest Le Mans GTO ('64)

Pontiac GTO 5.7 ('04) Holden Monaro CV8 ('04)

Pontiac Solstice Concept ('02)

Pontiac Sunfire GXP Concept ('02)

Proto Motors Spirra ('04)

Renault 5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car ('85) Renault 5 Turbo ('80) Renault 5 Turbo ('80)

Renault AVANTIME ('02)

Renault Clio Sport V6 24V ('00) Renault Clio Sport Trophy V6 24V Race Car ... Renault Clio Sport V6 Phase 2 ('03)

Renault Clio Sport 2.0 16V ('02)

Renault Mégane 2.0 IDE Coupé ('00)

Renault Mégane 2.0 16V ('02)

RUF 3400S ('00)

RUF BTR ('86) RUF CTR “Yellow Bird” ('87)

RUF CTR2 ('96)

RUF RGT ('00)

Saleen S7 ('02)

Scion xA ('03)

Scion xB ('03)

Seat Ibiza Cupra ('04)

Shelby Mustang G.T. 350R ('65)

Shelby Series 1 Super Charged ('03)

Spyker C8 Laviolette ('02)

Subaru 360 ('58)

Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi ('94) Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Version II ('95) Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Version III ('96) Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Version IV ('97) Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Version V ('98) Subaru Impreza Premium Sport Coupe 22B-STi... Subaru Impreza Coupe WRX type R STi Versio... Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Version VI ('99) Subaru Impreza Wagon WRX STi Version VI ('99) Subaru Impreza Rally Car ('99)

Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Version VII ('00) Subaru Impreza Sport Wagon STi ('00) Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Prodrive Styl... Subaru Impreza Rally Car ('01) Subaru Impreza Rally Car Prototype ('01) Subaru Impreza Super Touring Car ('01) Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi (GD Type-II) ... Subaru Impreza Rally Car ('03) Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi spec C (GD Ty... Subaru Cusco Advan Impreza (JGTC) ('03)

Subaru Legacy B4 RSK ('98) Subaru Legacy B4 Blitzen ('00) Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon GT-B ('96)

Subaru Legacy B4 2.0GT ('03) Subaru Legacy B4 2.0GT Spec B ('03) Subaru Legacy B4 3.0R ('03) Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon B4 2.0GT ('03) Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon B4 2.0GT Spec ... Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon B4 3.0R ('03)

Suzuki Alto Lapin Turbo ('02)

Suzuki Alto Works RS-Z ('97) Suzuki Alto Works Sport Limited ('97)

Suzuki Cappuccino (EA11R) ('91)

Suzuki Cappuccino (EA21R) ('95)

Suzuki Concept-S2 ('03)

Suzuki Escudo Dirt Trial Car ('98)

Suzuki GSX-R/4 ('01)

Suzuki Kei Works ('02)

Suzuki MR Wagon Sport ('04)

Suzuki Wagon R RR ('98)

Tommy Kaira ZZII ('00)

Tommy Kaira ZZ-S ('00)

Tom’s X540 Chaser ('00)

Toyota 2000GT ('67)

Toyota 7 Race Car ('70)

Toyota Altezza Touring Car ('01) Lexus IS 200 ('98) Lexus IS 200 (J) ('98) Lexus IS 300 Sport Cross ('01)

Toyota au Cerumo Supra (JGTC) ('01) Toyota Castrol Toms Supra (JGTC) ('00) Toyota Castrol Toms Supra (JGTC) ('01) Toyota Denso Sard Supra GT (JGTC) ('00) Toyota Esso Ultraflo Supra (JGTC) ('01) Toyota Supra SZ-R ('97) Toyota Supra RZ ('97) Toyota WoodOne Toms Supra (JGTC) ('03)

Toyota Caldina GT-Four ('02)

Toyota Carina ED 2.0 X 4WS ('89)

Toyota Celica 1600GT (TA22) ('70) Toyota Celica 1600GT (TA22) ('70)

Toyota Celica XX 2800GT ('81)

Toyota Celica 2000GT-Four (ST165) ('86) Toyota Celica 2000GT-R (ST162) ('86)

Toyota Celica GT-Four RC (ST185) ('91) Toyota Celica GT-R (ST183, 4WS) ('91) Toyota Celica GT-Four Rally Car (ST 185) ('95)

Toyota Celica GT-Four Rally Car (ST 205) ('95) Toyota Celica SS-II (ST202) ('97) Toyota Celica GT-Four (ST205) ('98)

Toyota Celica SS-II ('99) Toyota Modellista Celica TRD SportsM ('00) Toyota WedsSport Celica (JGTC) ('03) Trial Celica SS-II (ZZT231) ('03)

Toyota Corolla Levin 1600GT Apex ('83) Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex ('83) Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex SS Version ...

Toyota Corolla Levin BZ-R ('98) Toyota Sprinter Trueno BZ-R ('98)

Toyota Corolla Rally Car ('98)

Toyota Corolla RunX Z Aero Tourer ('02)

Toyota GT-One Race Car (TS020) ('99) Toyota GT-One Race Car (TS020) (Black) ('99)

Toyota Minolta Toyota 88C-V Race Car ('89)

Toyota Motor Triathlon Race Car ('04)

Toyota MR2 1600 G ('86) Toyota MR2 1600 G-Limited SC ('86)

Toyota MR2 G-Limited ('97) Toyota MR2 GT-S ('97)

Toyota MR2 Spyder ('99) Toyota MR2 Spyder (6-speed SMT) ('02) Toyota Super Autobacs Apex MR-S (JGTC) ('00)

Toyota Prius G (J) ('02)

Toyota Prius G Touring Selection ('03)

Toyota RSC ('01) Toyota RSC Rally Raid Car ('02)

Toyota Sera ('92)

Toyota Sports 800 ('65)

Toyota Starlet Glanza V ('97)

Toyota Supra 3.0GT Turbo A ('88) Toyota Supra 2.5GT Twin Turbo R ('90)

Toyota Tacoma X-Runner ('04)

Toyota Vitz F ('99) Toyota Vitz U Euro Sport Edition ('00) Toyota Vitz RS 1.5 ('00) Toyota Vitz RS Turbo ('02)

Toyota Voltz S ('02) Pontiac Vibe GT ('03)

Toyota WiLL VS ('01)

Triumph Spitfire 1500 ('74)

TVR Cerbera Speed Six ('97)

TVR Cerbera Speed Twelve ('00)

TVR Griffith 500 ('94)

TVR T350C ('03)

TVR Tamora ('02)

TVR Tuscan Speed Six ('00)

TVR V8S ('91)

Volkswagen Beetle 1100 Standard ('49)

Volkswagen Bora V6 4MOTION ('01)

Volkswagen Golf I GTi ('76)

Volkswagen Golf IV GTi ('01) Volkswagen Golf IV R32 ('03) HPA Motorsports Stage II R32 ('04)

Volkswagen Golf V GTi ('05)

Volkswagen Karmann Ghia Coupe (Type-1) ('68)

Volkswagen Lupo Cup Car ('00) Volkswagen Lupo GTi ('01) Volkswagen Lupo 1.4 ('02) Volkswagen Lupo GTi Cup Car ('03)

Volkswagen New Beetle 2.0 ('00) Volkswagen New Beetle Cup Car ('00) Volkswagen New Beetle RSi ('00)

Volkswagen Polo GTi ('01)

Volkswagen W12 Nardo Concept ('01)

Volvo 240 GLT Estate ('88)

Volvo S60 T5 Sport ('03)

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Original list taken from here at GTPlanet. Total number of entries? 750.

Total number of truly individual cars, excluding mere power/engine/trim/bodykit/model-year differences? 380.

Still a lot more than pretty much any other game, but about half of the claimed figure. Yes, I went so far as to put racecars and tuner cars with their ordinary counterparts, and whatnot, but still...

Oct 13 2005: Missed the Eagle Talon/Mitsu Eclipse, and Cusco Advan Impreza.
Oct 14 2005: Verbal was kind enough to point out that the Astons were wrongfully grouped together.
Nov 10 2005: Scaff informed me that the '02 Megane is a newer chassis than the '02, and that the Renault Clio 2.0 16V was wrongfully thrown in with the V6 models.
Oct 31 2006: Bindlov noticed that the Volvo S60 was missing.

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Daihatsu Mira TR-XX Avanzato R ('97)

Daihatsu Move CX ('95) Daihatsu Move SR-XX 2WD ('97) Daihatsu Move SR-XX 4WD ('97) Daihatsu Move Custom RS Limited ('02)

Daihatsu Storia CX 2WD ('98) Daihatsu Storia CX 4WD ('98) Daihatsu Storia X4 ('00)

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And that's the death of that car list!!!
(just kidding with you)

But really, to comment on the idea of a car list.
First off, I will not be able to make one.
However, I can still lay out my suggested plan.

Create a color and body part editor. 👍
Then scrap all the junk cars like the Daihatsu Moves.
Then scrap all the "fake race cars."
Finally, keep the remaining street cars and real world racers.

The thing about that is the idea of having fake race cars being built by the player.
Also, with a color editor it would be possible for every car in the game to be sold in "primer" color and then have user created paint schemes/ colors added to the car. 👍

With a body kit system and the color editor we wouldn't need PD to make dream cars for us, we could make them ourselves.

RUF Race Car here I come.

But for real, the list could be chopped down by creating "base models" for each car.
Instead of minor cosmetic differences between a Nur R34 and a Mspec R34, "we" the users could just take care of it ourselves using the base R34 model.

Do that for each car worth keeping and you've got a forza killer with GT's spirit and style still inside.

hmm... liverwurst

Kent

And that's the death of that car list!!!
(just kidding with you)

But really, to comment on the idea of a car list.
First off, I will not be able to make one.
However, I can still lay out my suggested plan.

Create a color and body part editor. 👍
Then scrap all the junk cars like the Daihatsu Moves.
Then scrap all the "fake race cars."
Finally, keep the remaining street cars and real world racers.

The thing about that is the idea of having fake race cars being built by the player.
Also, with a color editor it would be possible for every car in the game to be sold in "primer" color and then have user created paint schemes/ colors added to the car. 👍

With a body kit system and the color editor we wouldn't need PD to make dream cars for us, we could make them ourselves.

RUF Race Car here I come.

But for real, the list could be chopped down by creating "base models" for each car.
Instead of minor cosmetic differences between a Nur R34 and a Mspec R34, "we" the users could just take care of it ourselves using the base R34 model.

Do that for each car worth keeping and you've got a forza killer with GT's spirit and style still inside.

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This idea is very, very good IMO, except perhaps the removal of the lesser cars. I think their purpose is to make the better cars look even better, and also they are there so you can actually understand how good a supercar really is.

Wolfe2x7

Alright, I've got the condensed list.
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Original list taken from here at GTPlanet. Total number of entries? 750.

Total number of truly individual cars, excluding mere power/engine/trim/bodykit/model-year differences? 374.

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I salute you, because I always wanted to make a "condensed" list for GT2. I never got around to it.

However, I'd at least include the JGTC car and one of the road car as separate entries for a two reasons:
1) You can get a lot more power out of the race car.
2) The race car is sometimes a good bit lighter than the road car (ASL Garaiya excluded).

They drive like two different animals. But I won't convince you that a '91 NSX is much different than a '93 NSX, or that the cosmetic differences between the two AE86s translate to any sort of performance gains.

Team666

This idea is very, very good IMO, except perhaps the removal of the lesser cars. I think their purpose is to make the better cars look even better, and also they are there so you can actually understand how good a supercar really is.

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Precisely. That's what the fun of the original GT gave to us. You just have to understand that not one car was designed to win every type of race.

pupik

Precisely. That's what the fun of the original GT gave to us. You just have to understand that not one car was designed to win every type of race.

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Except for the Pikes Peak Escudo in GT2, that thing would win any race hands down, what a bad idea to give it handling like it had.

Aston Martin DB7 Vantage Coupe ('00) Aston Martin DB9 Coupe ('03) Aston Martin V8 Vantage ('99) Aston Martin Vanquish ('04)

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These are 4 totally different cars.

Lumping most of the race cars together with their street counterparts doesn't make much sense, appearance aside they're usually totally different animals. I'm not so sure about dismissing some of those 'mere power/engine' differences that easily, either.
But anyway, whether the real figure is 300 or 500, it's more than enough to have fun...

Pupik

I salute you, because I always wanted to make a "condensed" list for GT2. I never got around to it.

However, I'd at least include the JGTC car and one of the road car as separate entries for a two reasons:
1) You can get a lot more power out of the race car.
2) The race car is sometimes a good bit lighter than the road car (ASL Garaiya excluded).

They drive like two different animals. But I won't convince you that a '91 NSX is much different than a '93 NSX, or that the cosmetic differences between the two AE86s translate to any sort of performance gains.

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Verbal

These are 4 totally different cars.

Lumping most of the race cars together with their street counterparts doesn't make much sense, appearance aside they're usually totally different animals. I'm not so sure about dismissing some of those 'mere power/engine' differences that easily, either.
But anyway, whether the real figure is 300 or 500, it's more than enough to have fun...

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My intention was to simply group all cars that shared the same chassis, same generation, and same manufacturer (for example, the Evos were grouped by their true "generations," while I left the A3, TT, and Golf separate from each other). The racing/street combos make more sense when you consider the fact that Gran Turismo allows some very race-worthy modifications to the cars, and the fact that these racecars don't serve all that much of a purpose in the game (they're restricted from production-car-only races, and they're slower than other, more dedicated racecars, like the LMPs). Overall, I tried to make the condensation as fair and thorough as possible, so as to not discriminate against any specific make or model, so in the end I just decided to condense the hell out of pretty much any same-chassis models I could find. Sure, the M3 GTR has a V8, but does that make it completely different from a normal M3 or M3 CSL, and worthy of an extra count in the list? I don't think so. Sure, the R32 GT-R has AWD and the RB26DETT, while the R32 GTS-T has only RWD and an RB25DET, but does that make them more than just two different trim levels? The little amount of work it took the 3D modelers to change one into the other says "no."

That said, the list is simply a rough draft, thrown together in what I admit was a rush job. So, Verbal, don't take this next bit as a hostile challenge, because it's not. It's simply a friendly request : I admit that I don't know that much about Aston Martins, so if you can prove to me that the Aston Martins aren't just slight variations on the same exact chassis/model, I'll separate them and update the number. (btw, grouping the Astons together was a bit of a joke anyway. )

You seem to have some duplicates in the list, is there a reason to that?

There are also some weird things, are there really two different Mazda 110S models?

These just caught my attention.

Congrats to Falango: not only had he found the search button , but also he hit on a topic that got onto page 2 in about 30 hrs!!

Welcome to GTP!

You'll go far, young Skywalker...

Wolfe2x7

(...)The racing/street combos make more sense when you consider the fact that Gran Turismo allows some very race-worthy modifications to the cars, and the fact that these racecars don't serve all that much of a purpose in the game (they're restricted from production-car-only races, and they're slower than other, more dedicated racecars, like the LMPs).(...)

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Well, yeah, but they drive differently, so they should count as seperate cars. I don't think 'being useful' for completing the game should be a criterion.
There's a lot of cars in the game that aren't strictly needed, but having fun driving them is a purpose as good as any to me (most of the time I'm just doing free runs on the Ring anyway).

Sure, the R32 GT-R has AWD and the RB26DETT, while the R32 GTS-T has only RWD and an RB25DET, but does that make them more than just two different trim levels? The little amount of work it took the 3D modelers to change one into the other says "no."

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If you just go by the looks that's true. I'd be more interested inhow they drive.

(...)So, Verbal, don't take this next bit as a hostile challenge, because it's not. It's simply a friendly request : I admit that I don't know that much about Aston Martins, so if you can prove to me that the Aston Martins aren't just slight variations on the same exact chassis/model, I'll separate them and update the number. (btw, grouping the Astons together was a bit of a joke anyway. )

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Aston Martin V8 Vantage ('99) : This was the high performance version of the Virage, the last of the old school coach built Astons introduced in the late 80s. Engine was a supercharged version of the old V8 first used in the DBS.

Aston Martin DB7 Vantage Coupe ('00): The DB7 was a new car introduced in the early 90s, based on a Jaguar platform (both companies are owned by Ford), with a straight six engine. In the late 90s it got a newly developed V12, this was the Vantage version.

Aston Martin Vanquish ('04): New top model above the DB7, introduced in '01.

Aston Martin DB9 Coupe ('03): DB7 replacement introduced last year. New chassis, same V12 as the Vanquish, but with less power.

That's surely no proof, but then I'm not interested in proving anything. Do some research, or you'll have to just take my word for it....

FastEddie12

Congrats to Falango: not only had he found the search button , but also he hit on a topic that got onto page 2 in about 30 hrs!!

Welcome to GTP!

You'll go far, young Skywalker...

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Haha, I know how it feels to get asked the same questions numerous times. I know there are tons of people out there that don't bother to use the search, or just don't know how to use it properly. I intend to go very far in this game, 100% with every car in my garage, break 300mph (want to since I've seen a thread about it), and give you guys some nice pictures to look at from my collection. I have been away from the series since GT2, and boy did I miss it! It's great to see what some people have done in this game, and the times people post are looking pretty amazing. I hope to be up there amongst soon.

Greycap

You seem to have some duplicates in the list, is there a reason to that?

There are also some weird things, are there really two different Mazda 110S models?

These just caught my attention.

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I acquired the list from GTP, which contains some identical entries...the reason for this is that some cars are listed as both "New" and "Used"...including the Mazda 110S. Doesn't affect the condensed count, so whatever...

Verbal

Well, yeah, but they drive differently, so they should count as seperate cars. I don't think 'being useful' for completing the game should be a criterion.
There's a lot of cars in the game that aren't strictly needed, but having fun driving them is a purpose as good as any to me (most of the time I'm just doing free runs on the Ring anyway).

If you just go by the looks that's true. I'd be more interested inhow they drive.


Aston Martin V8 Vantage ('99) : This was the high performance version of the Virage, the last of the old school coach built Astons introduced in the late 80s. Engine was a supercharged version of the old V8 first used in the DBS.

Aston Martin DB7 Vantage Coupe ('00): The DB7 was a new car introduced in the early 90s, based on a Jaguar platform (both companies are owned by Ford), with a straight six engine. In the late 90s it got a newly developed V12, this was the Vantage version.

Aston Martin Vanquish ('04): New top model above the DB7, introduced in '01.

Aston Martin DB9 Coupe ('03): DB7 replacement introduced last year. New chassis, same V12 as the Vanquish, but with less power.

That's surely no proof, but then I'm not interested in proving anything. Do some research, or you'll have to just take my word for it....

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Checked Wikipedia, and you're right, the V8 Vantage is a completely different car. The DB7 Vantage, Vanquish, and DB9 are all similar, but the DB7 is a different generation DB. So, I'll split the marque into three.

Anyway, no need to be so serious about this...'tis all in good fun... 👍

NikZer

The Official US site has a list of 720 cars: http://www.us.playstation.com/Content/OGS/SCUS-97328/Site/

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my Prima game guide lists 721 cars. ummmm....

Wolfe2x7

(...)The DB7 Vantage, Vanquish, and DB9 are all similar, but the DB7 is a different generation DB. So, I'll split the marque into three.

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The Vantage version of the DB7 has a similar engine and has been styled by Ian Callum. That's all it has in common with the DB9 and Vanquish. DB9 and Vanquish may look similar, but the Vanquish is to the the (100,000$ cheaper) DB9 what, say, a ferrari 575 is to the 430. The DB9 is also 4 years younger and sits on Aston's new variable size platform, which is also used for the entry level V8 Vantage (in shorter form) as well as for the Vanquish successor which is due to come out in 3 years.[/quote]

Anyway, no need to be so serious about this...'tis all in good fun... 👍

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No problem, talking cars is always fun.

Verbal

The Vantage version of the DB7 has a similar engine and has been styled by Ian Callum. That's all it has in common with the DB9 and Vanquish. DB9 and Vanquish may look similar, but the Vanquish is to the the (100,000$ cheaper) DB9 what, say, a ferrari 575 is to the 430. The DB9 is also 4 years younger and sits on Aston's new variable size platform, which is also used for the entry level V8 Vantage (in shorter form) as well as for the Vanquish successor which is due to come out in 3 years.

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I thought the '04 Vanquish was a special DB9...?

Greycap

You seem to have some duplicates in the list, is there a reason to that?

There are also some weird things, are there really two different Mazda 110S models?

These just caught my attention.

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Yup, there are two different models because they have different engines.. 110S (10B) is slightly more powerful than (10A). maybe the B has better spark plugs on it, and no miles..

IIRC, one of the Cosmos is built on a longer wheelbase too. I'd check if my PS2 were with me.

Slightly still-on-topic, but the official US site is missing out on at least one car: the Sileighty.