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that explains it. on the full car list on the page it lists 720cars but does not list the sileighty. on the downloadable pdf file, the sileighty is all the way on the bottom.
so i guess 721 is the right number
How many is it really?
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that explains it. on the full car list on the page it lists 720cars but does not list the sileighty. on the downloadable pdf file, the sileighty is all the way on the bottom.
so i guess 721 is the right number
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i was just going thru the list of cars on the prima game guide and realized that the game guide is not 'complete' as they state. they are missing cars from an entire manufacturer; Peugeot (12cars). Peugeot is not even in the 'manufacturer Analysis' section of the guide.
how can they call a guide missing an entier manufacturer complete? the main reason i bought the damn book was that i could have a complete list of cars with their hp/weight stats long side them. booooooo, time to get on excel.
how can they call a guide missing an entier manufacturer complete? the main reason i bought the damn book was that i could have a complete list of cars with their hp/weight stats long side them. booooooo, time to get on excel.
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Hi everyone.
Having just gotten to the end of GT4 and attempting to get all the cars, I stumbled upon this thread and figured I would share with you what I found. I used the Prima Official Game Guide which states that there are 721 cars in the game. This seems consistent with the official car checklist which can be found online until it was later changed. (Keep in mind that I am talking about the North American version of the game.) While other ways of counting cars are just as valid, I will presume that a full checklist would mean all cars with different names regardless of how they were acquired. (Something which threw me off about the GTP list.) Thus at my count there are actually 733 unique cars in the game. This is because Peugeot is missing from the official checklists of which (to my knowledge) there are 12 unique cars which is supported by the new updated online checklist:
Peugeot 106 Rallye ('03)
Peugeot 106 S16 ('03)
Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 ('85)
Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Evolution 2 Rally Car...
Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Rally Car ('85)
Peugeot 206 CC ('01)
Peugeot 206 Rally Car ('99)
Peugeot 206 RC ('03)
Peugeot 206 S16 ('99)
Peugeot 307 XSi ('04)
Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 Coupé ('98)
Peugeot 905 Race Car ('92)
Also, a car which is missing from the Prima checklist is a Mazda MX-Crossport '05. However, this does not affect the total count since there seems to be an extra car on the checklist: Nissan Fairlady Z Version S (Z33) '02.
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Having just gotten to the end of GT4 and attempting to get all the cars, I stumbled upon this thread and figured I would share with you what I found. I used the Prima Official Game Guide which states that there are 721 cars in the game. This seems consistent with the official car checklist which can be found online until it was later changed. (Keep in mind that I am talking about the North American version of the game.) While other ways of counting cars are just as valid, I will presume that a full checklist would mean all cars with different names regardless of how they were acquired. (Something which threw me off about the GTP list.) Thus at my count there are actually 733 unique cars in the game. This is because Peugeot is missing from the official checklists of which (to my knowledge) there are 12 unique cars which is supported by the new updated online checklist:
Peugeot 106 Rallye ('03)
Peugeot 106 S16 ('03)
Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 ('85)
Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Evolution 2 Rally Car...
Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Rally Car ('85)
Peugeot 206 CC ('01)
Peugeot 206 Rally Car ('99)
Peugeot 206 RC ('03)
Peugeot 206 S16 ('99)
Peugeot 307 XSi ('04)
Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 Coupé ('98)
Peugeot 905 Race Car ('92)
Also, a car which is missing from the Prima checklist is a Mazda MX-Crossport '05. However, this does not affect the total count since there seems to be an extra car on the checklist: Nissan Fairlady Z Version S (Z33) '02.
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Renault Clio Sport V6 24V ('00) Renault Clio Sport Trophy V6 24V Race Car ... Renault Clio Sport 2.0 16V ('02) Renault Clio Sport V6 Phase 2 ('03)
The Clio Sport 2.0 16v is an almost totally different car to the V6's, the only shared components are 3 body panels (roof, hood and boot), the front interior and the front suspension & steering (which was very heavely revised). The rest is all unique in the Clio range to the V6.
Renault Mégane 2.0 IDE Coupé ('00) Renault Mégane 2.0 16V ('02)
The '02 Megane is a completely new car (designed & built as such), the '00 Megane actually started life as the '96 Coupe, with the '00 model being a facelift.
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The Clio Sport 2.0 16v is an almost totally different car to the V6's, the only shared components are 3 body panels (roof, hood and boot), the front interior and the front suspension & steering (which was very heavely revised). The rest is all unique in the Clio range to the V6.
Renault Mégane 2.0 IDE Coupé ('00) Renault Mégane 2.0 16V ('02)
The '02 Megane is a completely new car (designed & built as such), the '00 Megane actually started life as the '96 Coupe, with the '00 model being a facelift.
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The Clio 2.0 16V may be very different, but it is still the same chassis and generation of Clio, no? Separating it due to drivetrain/visual/suspension modifications would call into question many of the other merges.
Okay, so the '02 Megane is a newer generation. They have been separated.
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Wolfe2x7The Clio 2.0 16V may be very different, but it is still the same chassis and generation of Clio, no? Separating it due to drivetrain/visual/suspension modifications would call into question many of the other merges.
The chassis may have started life as the same item, but it underwent major modification when adapted for the V6, both front and rear pick-up points were revised and moved. Strengthening was added to the rear to carry the additional weight of the drivetrain.
I have driven both genertaions of Clio V6 and Renaultsport Clio 2.0 16v, they may be from the same generation of Clio and share the same interior, but thats just about all they have in common.
Its not a case of drivetrain/visual/suspension modifications; the entire drivetrain is unique in the Clio range to the V6 (if GT4 had the Renault Laguna V6 it would make more sense to put the Clio V6 with that, as the drivetrain originated in the Laguna), visualy (in the metal) the cars do look very different, as I say they share only 2 body panels with the rest of the Clio range, and 3 with the 2.0 16V (the aluminum bonnet/hood).
The rear suspension is again unique to the V6 and the front units underwent substantial modification to handle the massive change in weight distribution (from approx f60:r40 to f40:r60).
They drive, ride, handle and need to be driven in totaly different ways, the Clio V6 could have been given a different bodyshell and interior and sold as a totally unique model and no-one would have complained. Its Clio bodyshell is as much about marketing as anything else.
Sorry Wolfe, but to put the 2.0 and V6 Clio's together and claim that one is a modification of the other is not correct. By that argument the Lotus Elise and Vauxhall/Opel VX220 range need to go together, after all, the VX220 has a lengthened and widened Elise chassis and was built in the same plant.
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Nope, the Vanquish and DB9 are totally different models (with a price difference of over £50k), they sit on completely different platforms. The DB9 is longer (by 45mm) narrower (by 48mm) and lower (by 48mm), its also 165kgs lighter; all very big differences.
I can understand the confusion with the current Aston Martin range, as the family look on all the models is quite similar. However, in the 'metal' the DB9 does look quite different to the Vanquish and is in effect a totally different car.
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Alright, alright, I suppose the Clio merge was a bit much. Extensive body- and chassis-work is one thing (I've grouped the drift cars and racecars with their roadgoing cousins), but with that drivetrain switch (which I was already aware of), I might as well group the AE86 and AW11...
Fixed. Also, the Vanquish and DB9 are fixed.For the original list, with my limited time and slow computer (at school, between classes) my "research" for the Astons involved hopping on the Aston website, and noting that they all looked exactly the same.
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Wolfe2x7Alright, alright, I suppose the Clio merge was a bit much. Extensive body- and chassis-work is one thing (I've grouped the drift cars and racecars with their roadgoing cousins), but with that drivetrain switch (which I was already aware of), I might as well group the AE86 and AW11...
For the original list, with my limited time and slow computer (at school, between classes) my "research" for the Astons involved hopping on the Aston website, and noting that they all looked exactly the same.
No worries, and thanks for the change. The Aston one is understandable, as at a quick glance the two do look almost identical. Quite strangely, the more you look at them in the metal, the less alike they look.
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There are 730 car with 981 name. Maybe 251 redundan name for the exact same car.
some example:
23 Mercedes-Benz A 160 Avantgarde `98
1E Mercedes A 160 Avantgarde `98
2B Volkswagen Karmann Ghia Coupe (Type-1) `68
23 VW Karmann Ghia Coupe (Type-1) `68
37 Honda HSC "The 37th Tokyo Motor Show Concept Car" `03
0E Honda HSC `03
1A Marcos Mini Marcos GT `70
13 Mini Marcos GT `70
34 Nissan SKYLINE Hard Top 2000 RS-X Turbo C (R30) `84
28 Nissan SKYLINE HT 2000 RS-X Turbo C `84
27 Nissan SKYLINE HT 2000 RS-X Turbo C`84
3C Subaru IMPREZA Premium Sport Coupe 22B-STi Version (GC) `98
26 Subaru IMPREZA Coupe 22B-STi Ver. `98
BTW, I dont see this car on Wolfe2x7 list:
23 Audi Abt Audi TT-R Touring Car `02
1E Abt Audi TT-R Touring Car `02
edit: oops, I don't know that this is an old thread
, forgive me.
some example:
23 Mercedes-Benz A 160 Avantgarde `98
1E Mercedes A 160 Avantgarde `98
2B Volkswagen Karmann Ghia Coupe (Type-1) `68
23 VW Karmann Ghia Coupe (Type-1) `68
37 Honda HSC "The 37th Tokyo Motor Show Concept Car" `03
0E Honda HSC `03
1A Marcos Mini Marcos GT `70
13 Mini Marcos GT `70
34 Nissan SKYLINE Hard Top 2000 RS-X Turbo C (R30) `84
28 Nissan SKYLINE HT 2000 RS-X Turbo C `84
27 Nissan SKYLINE HT 2000 RS-X Turbo C`84
3C Subaru IMPREZA Premium Sport Coupe 22B-STi Version (GC) `98
26 Subaru IMPREZA Coupe 22B-STi Ver. `98
BTW, I dont see this car on Wolfe2x7 list:
23 Audi Abt Audi TT-R Touring Car `02
1E Abt Audi TT-R Touring Car `02
edit: oops, I don't know that this is an old thread
, forgive me.
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