BESTuners Gallery | Updated October 28th, 2006 - DB9 by ChromeBallz
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damn dude, that track is normally so bland and plain, but it looks vivid and exciting in your pics, sweet job duck. Oh, and about the shifting, a good way to solve that problem is by training a monkey to tie your shoes and get the paper while its shifting, after the monkey is fully trained and has retrieved the paper, maybe 3 or for years later, you will be in gear, good luck.!
Driver - Scaff
Car - Mazda AZ-1 Autozam
Deep Forest Time - 130.294
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The AZ-1 started life as a simple purchase to get me through the races that needed a Kei car; second-hand, cheap and not front wheel drive it met my basic needs. The problems started when I drove it after a mild tune. While it was quite clear that it was not going to challenge for any land speed records (at time it could barely challenge the speed limit), what it did provide was a very entertaining drive.
The amount of money I have spent on the AZ-1 may seem like madness to some, but this was my project car, and it took on a life of its own. Not to tune it for acceleration or outright speed, but simply to tune it as a fun drive.
Scaffs 👍
Quite simply its a joy to drive; running on the S2 tyres the little Mazda can be steered on the throttle at will. The first corner at Deep Forest being a classic example; you brake firmly down for a third gear approach, allowing the car a moment to settle before turning in. Maintaining a balanced throttle until just before the apex, when you can start to feed the power back on, as you do the rear starts to gently slide out, balancing the rear and front ends with the throttle around the remainder of the corner. While the AZ-1 has little in the way of snap-oversteer as the tail returns, it still needs good control of the power to bring the rear in cleanly.
The initial balance is very mild understeer on turn in which quickly but progressively turns to oversteer; as the back steps out the car can be balanced on the throttle around entire corners. Given the low overall speeds the car achieves this means that for the majority of a lap around Deep Forest only minimal braking is required and most of that is trimming the speed and balance of the car for the next corner.
The AZ-1 also serves as an excellent training tool for those who find mid-engined cars tricky on the limit, as all the basic principles that are needed can be learnt here, just at lower speeds, which allows the driver more time to react.
As already mentioned, top speed is not exactly the cars strong point, but overall it is very quick for its 125bhp; fitted with R5 racing rubber we clocked a time of 130.294 around the Deep Forest track. Given the circuits two lengthy straights its an impressive time for such a small car, gaining what it looses on the straights with simply amazing ability around corners. On a track with shorter straights and more turns it has the potential to humble much more powerful cars.
Scaffs 👎
Dynamically the Mazdas biggest issue is one that almost no tuning can resolve; its a very light mid-engined car with a very short wheelbase, as a result once the back end has gone past a certain point nothing is going to save it. Its an issue inherent in all mid-engined cars, a side effect of the reason why they turn and corner so well; the Mazdas short wheelbase just exaggerates the issue.
However, from a dynamic perspective very little else can be found to criticise the car, its twitchy over surface irregularities and rumble strips, again a factor of its light weight. Further softening the car would remove some, but not all of this, however the overall balance of the car would be spoilt. Just keep of the rough stuff.
Its also arguably not the most attractive car in the world; but as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, lowered and with the after-market red trimmed alloys and purely cosmetic wing Ive grown quite fond of how it looks. Im quite sure other will find it vulgar and over the top, but the world would be boring if we all liked the same things.
The single biggest problem with the AZ-1 is cost; yes you can find up nice used examples very cheap, but once the chassis has been restored and all the required modifications fitted, the final bill is sometimes hard to swallow. Particularly for a car that will only just top 100mph.
Overall
If you justify the price and are not just looking for straight line speed, then this is one of the most entertaining little cars you can sit yourself in.
Simply buckle up and on the right track you can spend hours with the car rarely travelling in a straight line and permanent grin on your face. And, for the truly silly among you, slap on a set of R5 racing tyres and take it for a spin, your own mini Le Mans racer. The speed may not be present, but that has nothing to do with fun and entertainment value. To top it all off its a great tool to learn the skills required to get the most out of all youre other mid-engined cars.
Look at it in this way and the price seems to get more and more reasonable (or Im just looking for reasons to convince myself).
Spec
125bhp@6,500rpm
101.19ft/lb@4,000rpm
655kg
Modifications
Oil Change
Racing Exhaust
Chip
S2 and or R5 Tyres
Stage 3 turbo
Large Racing Intercooler
Brake Balance Controller
Racing Suspension
Fully Customisable Transmission
Triple Plate Clutch
Racing Flywheel
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Port Polish
Engine Balance
Stiffness & Chassis Refresh
Fully Customisable LSD
My car is also fitted with aftermarket alloys and a wing, no downforce is used in the settings below as the car doesnt reach speeds at which is would be of great effect. Therefore these two modifications are purely cosmetic and can be omitted if required.
Setting
All are shown Front then Rear
Spring Rate 4.0 / 4.4
Ride Height 115 / 115
Damper
Bound 1 / 2
Rebound 2 / 4
Camber 2.0 / 1.0
Toe 0 / 0
Stabilisers 2 / 2
Downforce 0 / 0
VCD 10 / 30 / 20
Brake Balance 4 / 3
Gearbox Auto 10
Be careful if changing gearbox settings as Auto 10 helps to keep the car right in the powerband.
Car - Mazda AZ-1 Autozam
Deep Forest Time - 130.294
Report
The AZ-1 started life as a simple purchase to get me through the races that needed a Kei car; second-hand, cheap and not front wheel drive it met my basic needs. The problems started when I drove it after a mild tune. While it was quite clear that it was not going to challenge for any land speed records (at time it could barely challenge the speed limit), what it did provide was a very entertaining drive.
The amount of money I have spent on the AZ-1 may seem like madness to some, but this was my project car, and it took on a life of its own. Not to tune it for acceleration or outright speed, but simply to tune it as a fun drive.
Scaffs 👍
Quite simply its a joy to drive; running on the S2 tyres the little Mazda can be steered on the throttle at will. The first corner at Deep Forest being a classic example; you brake firmly down for a third gear approach, allowing the car a moment to settle before turning in. Maintaining a balanced throttle until just before the apex, when you can start to feed the power back on, as you do the rear starts to gently slide out, balancing the rear and front ends with the throttle around the remainder of the corner. While the AZ-1 has little in the way of snap-oversteer as the tail returns, it still needs good control of the power to bring the rear in cleanly.
The initial balance is very mild understeer on turn in which quickly but progressively turns to oversteer; as the back steps out the car can be balanced on the throttle around entire corners. Given the low overall speeds the car achieves this means that for the majority of a lap around Deep Forest only minimal braking is required and most of that is trimming the speed and balance of the car for the next corner.
The AZ-1 also serves as an excellent training tool for those who find mid-engined cars tricky on the limit, as all the basic principles that are needed can be learnt here, just at lower speeds, which allows the driver more time to react.
As already mentioned, top speed is not exactly the cars strong point, but overall it is very quick for its 125bhp; fitted with R5 racing rubber we clocked a time of 130.294 around the Deep Forest track. Given the circuits two lengthy straights its an impressive time for such a small car, gaining what it looses on the straights with simply amazing ability around corners. On a track with shorter straights and more turns it has the potential to humble much more powerful cars.
Scaffs 👎
Dynamically the Mazdas biggest issue is one that almost no tuning can resolve; its a very light mid-engined car with a very short wheelbase, as a result once the back end has gone past a certain point nothing is going to save it. Its an issue inherent in all mid-engined cars, a side effect of the reason why they turn and corner so well; the Mazdas short wheelbase just exaggerates the issue.
However, from a dynamic perspective very little else can be found to criticise the car, its twitchy over surface irregularities and rumble strips, again a factor of its light weight. Further softening the car would remove some, but not all of this, however the overall balance of the car would be spoilt. Just keep of the rough stuff.
Its also arguably not the most attractive car in the world; but as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, lowered and with the after-market red trimmed alloys and purely cosmetic wing Ive grown quite fond of how it looks. Im quite sure other will find it vulgar and over the top, but the world would be boring if we all liked the same things.
The single biggest problem with the AZ-1 is cost; yes you can find up nice used examples very cheap, but once the chassis has been restored and all the required modifications fitted, the final bill is sometimes hard to swallow. Particularly for a car that will only just top 100mph.
Overall
If you justify the price and are not just looking for straight line speed, then this is one of the most entertaining little cars you can sit yourself in.
Simply buckle up and on the right track you can spend hours with the car rarely travelling in a straight line and permanent grin on your face. And, for the truly silly among you, slap on a set of R5 racing tyres and take it for a spin, your own mini Le Mans racer. The speed may not be present, but that has nothing to do with fun and entertainment value. To top it all off its a great tool to learn the skills required to get the most out of all youre other mid-engined cars.
Look at it in this way and the price seems to get more and more reasonable (or Im just looking for reasons to convince myself).
Spec
125bhp@6,500rpm
101.19ft/lb@4,000rpm
655kg
Modifications
Oil Change
Racing Exhaust
Chip
S2 and or R5 Tyres
Stage 3 turbo
Large Racing Intercooler
Brake Balance Controller
Racing Suspension
Fully Customisable Transmission
Triple Plate Clutch
Racing Flywheel
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Port Polish
Engine Balance
Stiffness & Chassis Refresh
Fully Customisable LSD
My car is also fitted with aftermarket alloys and a wing, no downforce is used in the settings below as the car doesnt reach speeds at which is would be of great effect. Therefore these two modifications are purely cosmetic and can be omitted if required.
Setting
All are shown Front then Rear
Spring Rate 4.0 / 4.4
Ride Height 115 / 115
Damper
Bound 1 / 2
Rebound 2 / 4
Camber 2.0 / 1.0
Toe 0 / 0
Stabilisers 2 / 2
Downforce 0 / 0
VCD 10 / 30 / 20
Brake Balance 4 / 3
Gearbox Auto 10
Be careful if changing gearbox settings as Auto 10 helps to keep the car right in the powerband.
Scaff
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- ScaffUK
I'd like to thank everyone who voted for me, and also thanks to the guys at BESTuners for getting me set-up.
I have put the AZ-1 tune & test in here to keep it with all the other cars and to allow those who may have missed it a quick look and also to give people a chance to provide some feedback.
Thanks again & regards
Scaff
I have put the AZ-1 tune & test in here to keep it with all the other cars and to allow those who may have missed it a quick look and also to give people a chance to provide some feedback.
Thanks again & regards
Scaff
Driver - Scaff
Car - Mines Skyline R34
Deep Forest Time - 1'11.449
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The Mines Skyline has always been a car that has rightly been admired and feared in equal measure by all that drove it. So its with some trepidation that I strapped myself into todays test car, this was no ordinary Mines Skyline, a statement that in itself is worrying.
While the exterior of the car has always looked stunning, with its simple and some would say subtle decals combined with the R34s brutal looks, the interior of this car has had a slight makeover. All the interior trim and facia are gone, the result of a dramatic diet for the car, in its place a full race spec-roll cage and the tall, upright lever of the new sequential gearbox.
Earlier we had a chance to pop the bonnet and while the majority of the work is still the 'stock' Mines Skyline, they have uped the game with the fitment of a turbo the size of a small European city state, add to that the full race suspension system and this could get very silly.
Scaff's 👍
Pulling out of the pits I started my warm-up lap with a set of S3 sports tyres fitted, to get to grips with the car and expose any weakness of the set-up (see below for these). My first big concern was that the car would suffer from a lack of torque at the low end, however the gearing has kept turbo lag to a minimum, an impressive feat given the size of the damn thing.
Getting up to speed it becomes quite clear that despite a low ride height the car copes with the bumps and undulations around Deep Forest well. You still don't want to catch the car on full boost as you crest a rise, but with good throttle control its rarely an issue.
For such a powerful car its actually remarkably easy to drive quickly, to easily as at time you find yourself approaching a corner far faster than sane folk would recommend. Keep calm however and the car will help keep things in check, as long as the entry speed is slightly less than warp speed.
Overall its a quick and tidy car, easy to drive quickly, highly recommended.
Scaff's 👎
Its impossible to escape two blunt facts about this car, its very big (over 4.5m in length) and even after its 'Slimfast diet' its still no lightweight, in fact at 1,299kgs is still a bit of a porker. With over 800bhp on tap and a bumpy track like Deep Forest the car can be a bit reluctant to change direction if your speed is too high. Its not an accident waiting to happen, as it is easy to recover from, but it does hamper a clean lap.
On a smoother circuit such as Grand Valley its far more compliant to direction changes and indeed even get a tad tail happy in slower corners, even with the S3 tyres fitted.
The only other issue I had was with the first two gears, very careful throttle control is needed, even with racing rubber, to keep wheel spin in check. As a result second gear corners need care and patience, given that, once the apex is passed and the car straightens the shove from the back as you open the throttle wide on the corner exit is stunning.
Overall
If you want silly levels of power is a (relatively) easy to drive package this car certainly needs a look. Its not a car for the tail happy drifter (not with this set-up anyway), but if fast laps and silly cornering speeds are the stuff you dream of, then join the line.
Highly recommended.
Spec
818bhp@7,400rpm
575ft/lbs@5,400rpm
1,299kgs
1/4 Mile - 10.307
Top Speed - 234.23mph
Modifications
Racing Exhaust
S3 tyres (R5 for lap time)
Stage 4 Turbo
Brake Balance Controller
Racing Suspension
Fully Customisable Transmission
Fully Customisable LSD
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Stiffness
Oil Change
Settings
All are shown Front then Rear
Spring Rates = 12.2 / 11.1
Ride Height = 80 / 80
Damper
Bound = 4 / 3
Rebound = 6 / 5
Camber = 2 / 1
Toe = 1 / 0
Stabilisers = 2 / 3
VCD = F 10 / 30 / 20
R 10 / 30 / 20
Brake Balance = 5 / 4
Gearbox = Auto 16 (adjust as required)
Car - Mines Skyline R34
Deep Forest Time - 1'11.449
Report
The Mines Skyline has always been a car that has rightly been admired and feared in equal measure by all that drove it. So its with some trepidation that I strapped myself into todays test car, this was no ordinary Mines Skyline, a statement that in itself is worrying.
While the exterior of the car has always looked stunning, with its simple and some would say subtle decals combined with the R34s brutal looks, the interior of this car has had a slight makeover. All the interior trim and facia are gone, the result of a dramatic diet for the car, in its place a full race spec-roll cage and the tall, upright lever of the new sequential gearbox.
Earlier we had a chance to pop the bonnet and while the majority of the work is still the 'stock' Mines Skyline, they have uped the game with the fitment of a turbo the size of a small European city state, add to that the full race suspension system and this could get very silly.
Scaff's 👍
Pulling out of the pits I started my warm-up lap with a set of S3 sports tyres fitted, to get to grips with the car and expose any weakness of the set-up (see below for these). My first big concern was that the car would suffer from a lack of torque at the low end, however the gearing has kept turbo lag to a minimum, an impressive feat given the size of the damn thing.
Getting up to speed it becomes quite clear that despite a low ride height the car copes with the bumps and undulations around Deep Forest well. You still don't want to catch the car on full boost as you crest a rise, but with good throttle control its rarely an issue.
For such a powerful car its actually remarkably easy to drive quickly, to easily as at time you find yourself approaching a corner far faster than sane folk would recommend. Keep calm however and the car will help keep things in check, as long as the entry speed is slightly less than warp speed.
Overall its a quick and tidy car, easy to drive quickly, highly recommended.
Scaff's 👎
Its impossible to escape two blunt facts about this car, its very big (over 4.5m in length) and even after its 'Slimfast diet' its still no lightweight, in fact at 1,299kgs is still a bit of a porker. With over 800bhp on tap and a bumpy track like Deep Forest the car can be a bit reluctant to change direction if your speed is too high. Its not an accident waiting to happen, as it is easy to recover from, but it does hamper a clean lap.
On a smoother circuit such as Grand Valley its far more compliant to direction changes and indeed even get a tad tail happy in slower corners, even with the S3 tyres fitted.
The only other issue I had was with the first two gears, very careful throttle control is needed, even with racing rubber, to keep wheel spin in check. As a result second gear corners need care and patience, given that, once the apex is passed and the car straightens the shove from the back as you open the throttle wide on the corner exit is stunning.
Overall
If you want silly levels of power is a (relatively) easy to drive package this car certainly needs a look. Its not a car for the tail happy drifter (not with this set-up anyway), but if fast laps and silly cornering speeds are the stuff you dream of, then join the line.
Highly recommended.
Spec
818bhp@7,400rpm
575ft/lbs@5,400rpm
1,299kgs
1/4 Mile - 10.307
Top Speed - 234.23mph
Modifications
Racing Exhaust
S3 tyres (R5 for lap time)
Stage 4 Turbo
Brake Balance Controller
Racing Suspension
Fully Customisable Transmission
Fully Customisable LSD
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Stiffness
Oil Change
Settings
All are shown Front then Rear
Spring Rates = 12.2 / 11.1
Ride Height = 80 / 80
Damper
Bound = 4 / 3
Rebound = 6 / 5
Camber = 2 / 1
Toe = 1 / 0
Stabilisers = 2 / 3
VCD = F 10 / 30 / 20
R 10 / 30 / 20
Brake Balance = 5 / 4
Gearbox = Auto 16 (adjust as required)
- 738
nice stuff scaff, but never really thought that that car was anything special, just a gtr with some cheesy decals, maybe i'll give it a shot, but if it isn't enjoyable as you say, you must die, buahahahhaha, muhahaha. JK, glad you joined the team, you are a welcome new tuner, i hope you have fun doing this! BTW, wedssport celica should be posted up today.
- 667
Nice review with some great pics. I'll have to try the setup. I really like some of the new angles you've tried out.
One thing though... a car with that power-to-weight should achieve a lap time easily 2 seconds faster than that. My Evo 8 with 'only' 561bhp did a lap only 2 hundredths of a second slower than that round deep forest. The ride height looks low, so maybe that was due to bottoming out. Sorry to have a moan, as this dosen't affect the review at all, but i rekon it should be quicker than that.
One thing though... a car with that power-to-weight should achieve a lap time easily 2 seconds faster than that. My Evo 8 with 'only' 561bhp did a lap only 2 hundredths of a second slower than that round deep forest. The ride height looks low, so maybe that was due to bottoming out. Sorry to have a moan, as this dosen't affect the review at all, but i rekon it should be quicker than that.
Scaff
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identti
Thanks for the feedback.
The ride height isn't the issue (don't worry that one I checked out), raising the ride height does little for the lap time. Don't be too decieved by the high bhp as its a steep power curve and you only get the full beans at 7,400rpm; at least the torque arrives earlier.
I don't doubt that the car could be quicker around Deep Forest, its not my favorite track in GT4 (but it is the official course for BESTuners) so I'm sure someone could shave a bit off that time. I'm going to need to get into the 'zone' with regard to this track, as I normally use Grand Valley, Midfield and Apricot Hill for my testing.
The HPA R32 that 440cuda tested set a time that was only 0.555 seconds quicker, now the PTW ratio of the R32 is lower, but the engine torque is far greater (717 vs 575). Given the smaller size and slightly lower weight of the HPA R32 (both of which are major advantages on this track) I don't think that the Mines Skyline time is that far off the mark.
I should also point out that I don't use any driver aids at all (never have) and traction control would certainly help with first and second gears, but for me that would take away some of the fun.
440cuda9sec
Thanks 440, I only bought the car after I saw it on Best Motoring and it just looked like such a monster, I just wanted to see how silly I could get it.
BTW - cool, my first death threat and I've only been with BESTuners 5 minutes, look forward to plenty more of those. LOL
And yes putting these together is great fun, just hope that the people reading know that any set of settings may need to be tweaked to each drivers style. That said I enjoy getting the feedback, good or bad doesn't matter, as it will all help me get better.
Regards
Scaff
Scaff
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identti
👍 Let me know what you get (and do try the car on other tracks).
The one I'm waiting for is to see if anyone is as daft as me and spends silly on the AZ-1, I promise people its worth it.
Buy one, follow the tune & settings and get ready to smile.
Regards
Scaff
Scaff
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identti
It is a bit of an ugly bugger, but as GT4 makes use rich in under 10 minutes, moneys not an issue.
You may hate it, but you won't know until you try
.GreycapI spent as much money on the Suzuki Alto Works as you did on the AZ-1, it's a nice little giant-slayer too. Beats a WRX easily with 129 bhp.
P.S. Pictures of it in my gallery.
Another fan of the silly small car, it is great fun taking a shopping trolly and turning it into a monster.
As your Alto works kicks out a whole 4bhp more than my AZ-1 I may have to give one a try; may I also recomend the Peugeot106 Rallye, another fun car.
Regards
Scaff
- 667
Hi scaff.
I hate this car. Not the setup, the car. It just can't stick to the road. On the crest before the first corner at deep forest the car flies and when it lands it just spins out. I modifed your settings quite a lot though. On a normal track your settings work well, but deep forest is a completely different equation. I wanted less understeer which came quite easily, but more stability was harder to come by. I have an OK setup now for this track. Still is hard to control and i had many 'moments.' On a shabby lap i got a 1'09.597, but i still rekon that a 1'08 or less is easily achievable.
I hate this car. Not the setup, the car. It just can't stick to the road. On the crest before the first corner at deep forest the car flies and when it lands it just spins out. I modifed your settings quite a lot though. On a normal track your settings work well, but deep forest is a completely different equation. I wanted less understeer which came quite easily, but more stability was harder to come by. I have an OK setup now for this track. Still is hard to control and i had many 'moments.' On a shabby lap i got a 1'09.597, but i still rekon that a 1'08 or less is easily achievable.
Scaff
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As I said, different people, different driving styles, that and I need to get more time on Deep Forest.
BTW - identti you could have just edited your original post rather than putting four in a row, thats generally a good way to wind up the mods.
Regards
Scaff
BTW - identti you could have just edited your original post rather than putting four in a row, thats generally a good way to wind up the mods.
Regards
Scaff
Driver: .Duck.
BESTuners RUF 3400S 00 Report:
Deep Forest Laptime: 112.663
NOTE: Review tested with S2s, laptime tested with R4s.
Exterior:
Go ahead and say it, its a Boxter. Even though its tuned, its still a Boxter. The headlights stayed, the taillights stayed, nearly everything stayed except for the body kit, and even still its hard to tell them apart, unless you cheat and look at the badges, or if you hold two pictures of both of them side by side.
It sucks that the top cant go down. Whats the point of having a convertible when you cant look up and see the blue sky? The answer: theres no point. If PD makes this mistake for GT5, its going to be about as worthless as a Skyline with a special color. Ill be driving my Cayman, without the butt-ugly black cloth on the roof. And Ill be winning awards for looks, and sticking my tongue out at the Boxter for having silly mechanical problems.
The Good :
Cosmetics aside, its peppy, and can go from standstill to remarkably fast in a matter of seconds. The Boxter can swiftly and easily pass up cars in and above its class. It grips well when cornering, and can easily go inside your pushing, slow opponent. It can link corner after corner near flawlessly, and it makes for good replays. With the braking, its just average with Sport tires, but when you equip some slicks, itll stop on a dime.
Its a great trainer car. Just use my set-up and equip it with Racing tires, even R2s, and it can help people that are new to Gran Turismo learn to drive like a pro. Its a fun little car to throw around.
And the bad:
Yeah well, let me take off my rose tinted glasses and examine it again. Oh wait, theres some understeer when you push it hard. And theres that roof. No, Im not going to go there.
Theres a lack of speed in it, too. Or at least the sensation of it. Im cruising at 170 MPH, and I feel like a slug. Cruising around in my Audi Nuvolari at 170 MPH brings different results. I feel like Im invincible. I feel like Im going a million miles per hour.
Conclusion:
If youre new to GT, then get it; the 3400S (or Boxter) is a great trainer car for the reasons listed above. But its an average car. It handles the same as any other car. It has no characteristic features, and Ill probably never drive this car again. Its just another car.
The Set-up:
RUF 3400S Set-up
Thanks for reading, and please comment!!
BESTuners RUF 3400S 00 Report:
Deep Forest Laptime: 112.663
NOTE: Review tested with S2s, laptime tested with R4s.
Exterior:
Go ahead and say it, its a Boxter. Even though its tuned, its still a Boxter. The headlights stayed, the taillights stayed, nearly everything stayed except for the body kit, and even still its hard to tell them apart, unless you cheat and look at the badges, or if you hold two pictures of both of them side by side.
It sucks that the top cant go down. Whats the point of having a convertible when you cant look up and see the blue sky? The answer: theres no point. If PD makes this mistake for GT5, its going to be about as worthless as a Skyline with a special color. Ill be driving my Cayman, without the butt-ugly black cloth on the roof. And Ill be winning awards for looks, and sticking my tongue out at the Boxter for having silly mechanical problems.
The Good :
Cosmetics aside, its peppy, and can go from standstill to remarkably fast in a matter of seconds. The Boxter can swiftly and easily pass up cars in and above its class. It grips well when cornering, and can easily go inside your pushing, slow opponent. It can link corner after corner near flawlessly, and it makes for good replays. With the braking, its just average with Sport tires, but when you equip some slicks, itll stop on a dime.
Its a great trainer car. Just use my set-up and equip it with Racing tires, even R2s, and it can help people that are new to Gran Turismo learn to drive like a pro. Its a fun little car to throw around.
And the bad:
Yeah well, let me take off my rose tinted glasses and examine it again. Oh wait, theres some understeer when you push it hard. And theres that roof. No, Im not going to go there.
Theres a lack of speed in it, too. Or at least the sensation of it. Im cruising at 170 MPH, and I feel like a slug. Cruising around in my Audi Nuvolari at 170 MPH brings different results. I feel like Im invincible. I feel like Im going a million miles per hour.
Conclusion:
If youre new to GT, then get it; the 3400S (or Boxter) is a great trainer car for the reasons listed above. But its an average car. It handles the same as any other car. It has no characteristic features, and Ill probably never drive this car again. Its just another car.
The Set-up:
RUF 3400S Set-up
Thanks for reading, and please comment!!
- 1,671
Sexxxy stuff .Duck. and Scaff. I am finally seeing people take some interest in this. I won't be able to do ish for a day or two being that my PC is very messed up (It won't load into Windows at all) So I'm using my sister's laptop, but that's messed up too. It's slow and it doesn't think correctly sometimes 
POPUPS!! Well any ways, great donation Scaff. I like the picture you have showing the vertical pic with the Mine's Signature on it. It looks hella tight.
KEEP IT UP Y'All!!
POPUPS!! Well any ways, great donation Scaff. I like the picture you have showing the vertical pic with the Mine's Signature on it. It looks hella tight.KEEP IT UP Y'All!!
Scaff
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ekmatt9
Thanks 👍 , I am very happy with the way the pictures of the Mines came out, they needed little work as well.
.Duck.
Its a nice set-up, just the car, which as you say just does not feel fast enough. Much like a Boxter, wonderful handling car, just needs more go.
Raghavan
Thanks, glad you liked it, what with it being my first 'real' test for BESTuners I was a bit nervous about how it would go down.
Regards
Scaff
Driver: speedy_2
BESTuners BMW M5 05 Report:
Deep Forest Raceway Time: 109.984
Intro
The 05 BMW M5 is a gorgeous car. I personally prefer the pre 04 models myself. But, as I drove the 05 I began to accept its styling more. Naturally, I chose this vehicle, since I really have a passion for mid sized luxury cars. Especially, ones that can move out of their own way. And, the 05 M5 can certainly do that. Stock, it weighs 1,715kg/3,780lbs. So, getting that weight up to speed is going to require some power. You get 508HP from the factory, but we all know, there can never be enough HP. Thats where the work begins .
The Good..
At first you would think that such a heavy, long, 4 door sedan wouldnt do too much performance wise. Once fitted with the performance parts the M5 goes through a transformation. Stiffer springs and stabilizer bars make body roll(an expected behavior from a luxury car) virtually nonexistent. For some, it may be too stiff. Uneven road surfaces can cause the rear end to get squirrely at speed. Personally, I think it adds to the fun factor of this car. The handling is impressive. A little too hot coming into a corner and its going to push. Not a problem. A slight tap on the brakes and youre back in line. Very little input is needed from the gas and brakes to get this car going where you want it. Always remember, Smooth is fast. Erratic or 100% braking can really upset the suspension. Smooth, subtle input from the driver will yield a very enjoyable driving experience. One of the most impressive things I noticed is the way the car behaved coming out of a turn. Give it gas and it would turn. Push harder and ..It would turn more. It likes to turn with the accelerator. With a slight ASM set for over steer you wont have to worry about spinning out while doing this. Now, the Power. Theres plenty of it. 761 HP to be exact. This is not just a 4 door freeway cruiser anymore. No matter where you are in the RPM range theres power waiting to be unleashed. Oh, and with the 7 speed transmission 200mph is no problem for this beast. 0-400M is done in 10.36 seconds.
The Bad..
As I said before, at speed, it starts to get scary. Get into some bumps over 100mph and youre at the mercy of the tires. I found myself picking grass out of my teeth after topping a few jumps on Nurburgring. Yet, on other occasions it would clear the jump, even with all the jittery stuff going on in the rear. Remember where imperfections are on the tracks and youll be fine. A little too much speed coming in or carrying too much out and the car will really push to the outside. Brakes will help but only too a certain extent. Too much braking will only worsen the problem. Weight would be another downfall of this car to some people. I can accept it since it is a 4 door luxury car. But, we all know, this amount of power in something lighter would be awesome.
Verdict
Want a 4 door luxury car in your collection that doesnt drive like a 4 door luxury car? This is it. The weight of the BMW M5 is no longer a factor. The HP increase and suspension mods make this feel more like a sports car. Even in its stock form, its an impressive car. Naturally, modifying it would just make things better. As I said before, once youre moving at a high rate of speed things get a little crazy. This is due to the fact that I didnt add a wing. I just couldnt bring myself to put a wing on such a nice looking vehicle. With a wing Im sure there would be much more high speed stability.
BESTuners BMW M5 05 Report:
Deep Forest Raceway Time: 109.984
Intro
The 05 BMW M5 is a gorgeous car. I personally prefer the pre 04 models myself. But, as I drove the 05 I began to accept its styling more. Naturally, I chose this vehicle, since I really have a passion for mid sized luxury cars. Especially, ones that can move out of their own way. And, the 05 M5 can certainly do that. Stock, it weighs 1,715kg/3,780lbs. So, getting that weight up to speed is going to require some power. You get 508HP from the factory, but we all know, there can never be enough HP. Thats where the work begins .
The Good..
At first you would think that such a heavy, long, 4 door sedan wouldnt do too much performance wise. Once fitted with the performance parts the M5 goes through a transformation. Stiffer springs and stabilizer bars make body roll(an expected behavior from a luxury car) virtually nonexistent. For some, it may be too stiff. Uneven road surfaces can cause the rear end to get squirrely at speed. Personally, I think it adds to the fun factor of this car. The handling is impressive. A little too hot coming into a corner and its going to push. Not a problem. A slight tap on the brakes and youre back in line. Very little input is needed from the gas and brakes to get this car going where you want it. Always remember, Smooth is fast. Erratic or 100% braking can really upset the suspension. Smooth, subtle input from the driver will yield a very enjoyable driving experience. One of the most impressive things I noticed is the way the car behaved coming out of a turn. Give it gas and it would turn. Push harder and ..It would turn more. It likes to turn with the accelerator. With a slight ASM set for over steer you wont have to worry about spinning out while doing this. Now, the Power. Theres plenty of it. 761 HP to be exact. This is not just a 4 door freeway cruiser anymore. No matter where you are in the RPM range theres power waiting to be unleashed. Oh, and with the 7 speed transmission 200mph is no problem for this beast. 0-400M is done in 10.36 seconds.
The Bad..
As I said before, at speed, it starts to get scary. Get into some bumps over 100mph and youre at the mercy of the tires. I found myself picking grass out of my teeth after topping a few jumps on Nurburgring. Yet, on other occasions it would clear the jump, even with all the jittery stuff going on in the rear. Remember where imperfections are on the tracks and youll be fine. A little too much speed coming in or carrying too much out and the car will really push to the outside. Brakes will help but only too a certain extent. Too much braking will only worsen the problem. Weight would be another downfall of this car to some people. I can accept it since it is a 4 door luxury car. But, we all know, this amount of power in something lighter would be awesome.
Verdict
Want a 4 door luxury car in your collection that doesnt drive like a 4 door luxury car? This is it. The weight of the BMW M5 is no longer a factor. The HP increase and suspension mods make this feel more like a sports car. Even in its stock form, its an impressive car. Naturally, modifying it would just make things better. As I said before, once youre moving at a high rate of speed things get a little crazy. This is due to the fact that I didnt add a wing. I just couldnt bring myself to put a wing on such a nice looking vehicle. With a wing Im sure there would be much more high speed stability.
Settings:
Horsepower: 761
Torque 546 ft. lbs
Parts
~ Exhaust & Air Filter: Racing
~ Racing Brakes & Brake Controller
~ NA Tuning: Stage 3
~ Port Polish
~ Engine Balancing
~ Racing Chip
~ Transmission: Full Customize
~ Clutch: Triple Plate
~ Flywheel: Racing
~ Limited-Slip: Full Customize
~ Carbon Driveshaft
~ Suspension: Full Customize
~ Racing Tires: Medium (R3)
~ Weight Reduction: Stage 3
~ Increase Rigidity
~Custom Wheels BBS 019
~Total Cr. Spent on Modifications: $249,800
Suspension:
Spring Rate 11.5 | 12/3
Ride Height 80 | 82
Shock (Bound) 7 | 8
Shock (Rebound) 7 | 8
Camber Angle 2.5 | 1.0
Toe Angle 0 | -1
Stabilizers 4 | 5
Transmission
Final 3.800
Auto 14
LSD
Initial 8
Acceleration 10
Deceleration 12
Brake Controller
Front 5
Rear 4
Driving Aids
ASM Oversteer 1
ASM Understeer 1
TCS Controller - 3
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