Mad FinnTuners Co.™ - Finished 301010 with GT-Rdammerung - BIG THANKS everyone!

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Rotary Junkie
Hommel Berlinette RT:

It's not easy to drive.
It's not fast or consistent.
It's a helluva challenge to get a handle on, though!

Anyhow, my impressions: There is some slight understeer on entry to some corners, isually at low speed. Others the tail will simply snap out and bite you.
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All I can say is, must be driving styles or controller differences. Or the fact that the car just doesn't want to turn under braking, all the braking must be done before turning in and it'll behave much better.

But, I do believe, a good driver (And I mean REALLY good) would be able to set some very nice laptimes with it; and when you DO get a corner right in it, it feels bloody awesome. Tail just slides a little bit, perfectly arcing through the turn...

Just don't expect it to do that every corner every lap. If you put the car one inch off the perfect line, it will bite you.
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I think that with my game stats I'm the wrong person to say anything at this but still... I drove laps of about half a second apart. Both on Grand Valley and Trial Mountain (low to high 1'31 times). If you look at our lap time list you'll see that this pesky fibre glass sled runs neck to neck with quite a lot of cars with more power and/or better tyres. I guess certain cars just suit some people better than others and this one certainly suits me.

Still yet to test the original setup, but I know MFT would never release something worse than stock.
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It depends on what you mean by better. If better is faster, this is undoubtedly better. If better is easier to drive, I'm not so sure as it depends on the driver.

So, while it scores low as a race vehicle (too unpredictable and ultimately lacking in power to make up for that), probably about a 6.5/10, as a toy and atool to improve oneself, it gets an easy 8.5-9/10. 👍
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I guess the "trackday racer" is quite fitting then. While it can't keep up with true racing cars as they all have more power, in its own power class it fares pretty well. Of our own cars only the Elise beats it with less power, and with a considerably better power to weight ratio.

Thanks for the review, you know the rules! 👍
 
Most likely driving style differences as I run a Driving Force Pro.

Gotta put more seat time in it, though. I just gotta make a clean lap somewhere!

Most likely the main reason I can't drive this car is because my skin is not bright green and I don't literally plug in to the PS2. Like you. You alien.

No request for y'all to do as of right now... I've never really had one other than the cheapskate racecar which got me pointed to Gekko Jr., :lol:
 
nd 4 holden spd
I'll think I'll try the Wolf R32, I couldn't help but notice the irony whether intended or not that in some countries an R32 is called a Rabbit and wolves EAT rabbits so this is gonna EAT a standard Golf judging by that.
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Well, Wolf R32 IS leaner and meaner version of the Rabbit/Golf.. expect better handling and faster laptimes, and much more grip and neutral behavior.:)
 
well, i'm still waiting for Wolf's review, and possibly few others that have been neglected almost completely.
 
At this point in time I became the "Wolf", anything he was capable of so was I, I found a rabbit and ate it alive (not really, couldn't find one). I talk of the R32 Wolf, it is a very predictable car and I really like it, I haven't had an AWD car like this for a long time. The car doesn't let you forget it is AWD with over 300hp on sport tyres though sometimes seeming a little reluctant to turn, but stay on the race line and you are fine.I thought this was a seemingly different direction for MFT is some small respects, like the fact it has a rigiditity increase and it is lower than standard, but I like it, lower = better looks of the car, and now I won't have to worry about overusing it and warping the body. It may not have the speed to keep up with more powerful RWD cars but it has the character to be driven again, and again and again, whalloping the competiton if you're driving it where it should be driven.
In case you didn't catch it, the only thing I don't like is the high speed understeer, but that probably can't be helped with the AWD. Yet another good creation from the Finns.
 
nd 4 holden spd
At this point in time I became the "Wolf", anything he was capable of so was I, I found a rabbit and ate it alive (not really, couldn't find one).
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Lucky rabbit, I'd say. ;) :lol:

I talk of the R32 Wolf, it is a very predictable car and I really like it, I haven't had an AWD car like this for a long time. The car doesn't let you forget it is AWD with over 300hp on sport tyres though sometimes seeming a little reluctant to turn, but stay on the race line and you are fine.I thought this was a seemingly different direction for MFT is some small respects, like the fact it has a rigiditity increase and it is lower than standard, but I like it, lower = better looks of the car, and now I won't have to worry about overusing it and warping the body.
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Better get used to it, I've been applying the chassis rigidity a lot recently, as it seems to bring out the remaining abilities of the suspension, that would otherwise be hidden by the softer stock chassis. And while it is over 300bhp awd on sports tyres, it is remarkably neutral and behaves well on the limit. there's almost no way you could spin it, unless you try really hard.

It may not have the speed to keep up with more powerful RWD cars but it has the character to be driven again, and again and again, whalloping the competiton if you're driving it where it should be driven.
In case you didn't catch it, the only thing I don't like is the high speed understeer, but that probably can't be helped with the AWD. Yet another good creation from the Finns.
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Ah, music to my ears. I'm glad that the Wolf got your attention for longer time than just for one session. High speed understeer was unfortunately unavoidable, due the lack of wing and R-grade tyres, but then again, it looks better without a wing. I'm extremely satisfied with your fine review, and I wish that we'll see you here more often. 👍



As I mentioned earlier, our next cars will also be ripping the tarmac from all four corners, but this time, both will be assisted by turbo's. Grey will have more modern FWD-biased base version of a WRC car, whereas mine will be RWD-biased and older. Stay tuned, they'll be here this week after few more reviews! :sly:
 
i also liked the Wolf, really a good car. mostly neutral, great cornering, some high-speed-understeering, just as nd 4 holden speed said. i really enjoyed the ride with the R32, although i'm not a big VW-fan!

i'm still waiting for Rex Jr. and the EVO IV to show up in my used-car-lot.....

viper
 
BTW, RJ, just to let you know: if you can't find the 6.2 mile/10km special, feel free to use the million mile one. it'll be bit easier to handle, thanks to less power and torque.
 
I used the million-mile RX-7. Maybe that was the problem... My biggest issue with the car was that it lost momentum while sideways. Perhaps I should add 20hp somehow, and try again?
 
Leonidae
BTW, RJ, just to let you know: if you can't find the 6.2 mile/10km special, feel free to use the million mile one. it'll be bit easier to handle, thanks to less power and torque.
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There is... A 6.2 mile special '92 RZ?!?!?

AHHHHHH!!!

Surely it's only in PAL...
 
that is quite likely it.. the lack of power. and yes, there indeed is plenty of 6.2 mile cars on PAL ( like the last gen Supra that can reach 904bhp and ridiculous amount of torque, plenty of RX-7's etc.. ) that aren't available on NTSC..:guilty:

okay, time to narrow it down.. sort of.. 2 liters, 4 cylinders, 4wd, turbo, made in the 90's and is sometimes referred as funny, big dog. ;)
 
Funny, big dog? I'm stumped.

Can't wait for the new release, and I'll have time to test some of the ones that have been neglected on Wednesday. I know you said you revised two of your cars. Frost, and... what was the other one? I think it'll be fun to test something half-old, half-new!
 
Just on the note of the R32 wolf again, I remember saying that it couldn't take on more powerful RWD cars- woops, this car can beat Zondas and SLR Mclarens with just 329hp, if anyone hasn't tried this yet I strongly recommend that you do.👍
 
Couldn't get a Scotia White one or the wheels, but I made my own version using the Satellite Silver Metallic and Enkei's number 46 wheels which look like they were made for any of the Evos!! The car is awesome you guys and it gets a 10 out of 10 from me! :) Its good, really inexpensive fun with the car.... but...

The setup (on the diff, ayc, and suspension) does not work for me unless I am on dirt or snow. It works great on there, but once I hit the road, it drives too loose and squirrelly for my liking. I may be a wuss that uses all the aids still and AYC is not for me either, nor is the Full-Customize LSD (give me a 1.5 way please, that's how I build my rides usually, btw.) As for suspension, I take this thing was setup for driving on snow, ice, and dirt, right? I'm also not a big fan of the FC suspension either. I usually buy the sports, semi-racing, or Original suspension if that is offered because I never get the rebound/bound right. I know for a fact that my road setup wouldn't work for you or anyone else, because its my setup and the way I like it! By the way, can you Brilliant Finns give this long time American GT Veteran some tips and tricks to FC racing suspension? :dopey: 💡

Now for the Wolf that acts like a rabbit.. testing commencing in Seattle, then the snow of Chamonix, and the dirt of the Maze! :D\

At Seattle... Awesome! Drives wonderful though the corners, has enough speed to get down the straight, and enough power to get up the hills....
At Chamonix... That was awesome!.. I was drifting completely sideways not giving a care about the time at the end of the session, and that was a blast!!:dopey:
At Da Maze... was da Bomb!! :D I had so much fun it wasn't even funny... the Wolf rules!! :D

I loved reviewing your cars MFT and I hope to get to do it real soon again! :D Thanks guys!

Randy Woods Morgan
 
The Wolf outruns Zondas? I'd already decided I'd test the Evo IV from Greycap, I guess I'll have to try out the R32 from Leonidae as well.
 
ranhammerR34
Couldn't get a Scotia White one or the wheels, but I made my own version using the Satellite Silver Metallic and Enkei's number 46 wheels which look like they were made for any of the Evos!!
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They're indeed the very same ones as the Evo VIII stock wheels. For Evo V looks, OZ030 does the trick. 👍

The car is awesome you guys and it gets a 10 out of 10 from me! :) Its good, really inexpensive fun with the car.... but...

The setup (on the diff, ayc, and suspension) does not work for me unless I am on dirt or snow. It works great on there, but once I hit the road, it drives too loose and squirrelly for my liking. I may be a wuss that uses all the aids still and AYC is not for me either, nor is the Full-Customize LSD (give me a 1.5 way please, that's how I build my rides usually, btw.) As for suspension, I take this thing was setup for driving on snow, ice, and dirt, right?
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Aids? Noo... they drive the car for you!

The car was made to be fully drivable and competitive on all surfaces, it's not a specialized tarmac setup but not a full blown rally setup either. Something of a cross between those two, and that's undoubtedly contributing to some of the problems you've come across.

The looseness though, it was a wanted thing. The stock models are way too unresponsive to my liking so I improved the manoeuvrability a great deal. The steering inputs needed are now much smaller, driving it like the stock model leads to huge slides and bleeding off the speed. This was also the reason to fitting the AYC, it's an important factor in the real world Evos and it gives a lot less understeer than the other LSD options. Try the 1.5 way differential on the car and you'll see that it doesn't turn nearly as well. ;)

I'm also not a big fan of the FC suspension either. I usually buy the sports, semi-racing, or Original suspension if that is offered because I never get the rebound/bound right. I know for a fact that my road setup wouldn't work for you or anyone else, because its my setup and the way I like it! By the way, can you Brilliant Finns give this long time American GT Veteran some tips and tricks to FC racing suspension? :dopey: 💡
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Driving style is definitely something that has to be taken into account. Some of my cars are undrivable for other people because they just can't get them going in a straight line... but I can throw them in any way I like. It sounds this may be the case with the Evo too, it's a loose car made for my loose style.

By dropping the FC suspension you're dropping quite a big part of suspension tuning, the fine tunable dampers can make a huge difference. You can give the car different handling characteristics under braking or acceleration by dampers alone. PM me and we'll begin by making that Lancer suit you better, going through the suspension tricks at the same time. :)

Here ends my part, the Wolf wasn't my car so I'll let the maker handle it. Thank you for the review! 👍

I loved reviewing your cars MFT and I hope to get to do it real soon again! :D Thanks guys!

Randy Woods Morgan
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If our next cars go as planned, you'll soon have two of the toughest competitors of the Evo in its heyday to be driven. To drop some more info of mine, I'll say that it has twice the vision of most other cars. ;)
 
Hmm... Gotta give Leo a review... Luckily, I have an unmolested '92 RZ!


So I'll start building that up, followed by the Lancer and Wolf.


And... We have a dumb mutt and an eagle in the works... :lol: (Sorry, Leo, but... "Big, funny dog"=dumb mutt. :P)
 
Notes from the edge on Rex Jr.:

Fired it up, got pleasantly surprised by a little slideways action. On the corner coming onto the main straight at GVS, I lifted, tapped the brakes, let the rear slide a bit and got on the throttle. The rear was sliding, yes, but so was the nose!

Back to garage. Made a few more laps, my biggest gripe is that this car seems to stay unsettled too long; making some sections tricky to say the least. Maybe a bit stiffer on the front shocks, but... You guys don't want to hear me go on about what you should do. That and I don't know if it would change the character of the car to the point of it losing it's identity.

So I'm doing some runs at Trial Mountain now, to get a better feel for the car.

Okay, did some more runs at Trial Mountain. Car is lots of fun to slide around, but the shocks mess with it quite often

So, overall, an 8/10 from me, just because it likes to unsettle itself when braking is needed after a shallow corner and drifts can't be corrected/exited well due to excessive snapback. Otherwise, she's awesome, Leo!

Well, hang on.. I can't make it any better... Hehehe. I can see that it was the best compromise. 8.5/10.

~Kyle.

EDIT: Smooth move on my part. Sorry for the double.
 
EA11R
The Wolf outruns Zondas? I'd already decided I'd test the Evo IV from Greycap, I guess I'll have to try out the R32 from Leonidae as well.
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Certainly not in a straight line but around a track, absolutely, I wonder if the Finns new this when they made it. Actually that was a question guys, did you?:dopey:
 
Nd 4 Holden Spd: I'd love to say that I knew how good Wolf is, but I didn't. I knew that as long as the driver trusts the Wolf and drives with confidence to the cars abilities, it can take on much more powerful cars. I can believe the SLR ( it being the understeery, overweight whale for a car) but Zonda's? :dunce::scared: I think i've created yet another sleeping monster.

Rotary: Rex Jr is tricky to drive, and I recall warning about it. but when you get used to the car, it can beat tuner car cup for you. just be careful with the RUF's, they'll beat you in the straights. and it performs such a great and smooth drifts on most of the tracks.. but get it unsettled and it WILL hurt you unless you have both hands and feet of Drift King. :sly: :mischievous: And don't call this dog dumb.. it'll hurt you just as eagerly as Rex Jr. it's THAT twitchy despite 4wd.

RanhammerR34: I'm glad that you enjoyed of the Wolf! I'm rather surprised to hear that the setup works well for rallying too.👍
 
Yes, as fast as we can get them out. The first one tonight if everything goes to the plan. 👍
 
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