Mad FinnTuners Co.™ - Finished 301010 with GT-Rdammerung - BIG THANKS everyone!

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ugh.. ugliest Evo's ever. on the other hand, my experience tells me that ugly cars are faster.. *cough*Alpine*cough*
 
Finnish Vs American tastes, I guess.

Although.. The nose on the V-VI looks much better than that of the VII/VIII//IX. I'm just nice to my competitors. I don't force them to look at Aunt Matilda's rear end. :lol:
 
There was the great (and unfortunately now late) Peter "Possum" Bourne who won just about everything possible in Australian rallying and also raced in the WRC in the mid nineties. The problem is, he drove a Subaru. :D
 
There was the great (and unfortunately now late) Peter "Possum" Bourne who won just about everything possible in Australian rallying and also raced in the WRC in the mid nineties. The problem is, he drove a Subaru. :D

Chris Atkinson could be quick if he was consistent, I love watching him showing pace then uh oh, that was a ditch......and that was a tree, oh well. I follow circuit racing more, V8 Supercars to be exact. If you have pay TV you should watch it some time next year, we get it on normal TV in Oz obviously.

Edit: Just thought I'd let you know something you may already know, but my CIEN developed and improved in conjunction with Rotary Junkie, is quicker than all except 2 of your cars, Grim R34per has over 100hp extra though and only mangages to be one second quicker and R390, well that's just got more power and way less weight combined, that thing's lethal, but watch out Grim R34per, I think the CIEN's better and I'm only comparing my lap times to your posted ones, if only I had a better driver, maybe just maybe........ I'm letting you know this in regard to a comment you guys made earlier somewhere that RRV was your only competition, letting you know that Aussie Tuners is still here mate..........(you may say that the CIEN is partly RRV anyway thanks to RJ, but since he started helping I've only bested my lap time by 0.1sec so it was all me before that)- He has probably made it a lot easier to drive though. No this is not a threat, just a friendly reminder that Aussie Tuners are still in town.
 
If Grim R34per is one second quicker, you're doing low 1'39 times with the Cien? Sorry to spoil your fun, but with the same tyre compound the R390/870GT cut below 1'33 - 1'32,761 to be exact. That's around six and a half seconds so you have some way to go. :P
 
If Grim R34per is one second quicker, you're doing low 1'39 times with the Cien? Sorry to spoil your fun, but with the same tyre compound the R390/870GT cut below 1'33 - 1'32,761 to be exact. That's around six and a half seconds so you have some way to go. :P

Boy have I got news for you, no I haven't beaten the r390 time, but I just made 1.38.921 with the CIEN, and I'm not immortal like some drivers, plus I finally drove the r389, yes that's right, and guess what, I don't like it. The only place, literally other than maybe high speed cornering, it gets the CIEN is straights. If that R390 had the same acceleration as my CIEN I bet I'd win. Not to mention CIEN's tardy gearbox and grim r34per obviously had over 100hp extra to play with too, so I tell you what, once we're done I'll post a finished version and you can drive it see how you like it. Btw, with the r390, you can't charge in guns a blazin or you spin, even with the brake balance, you can't charge out of a corner guns a blazin or you spin, and unless you've got the perfect throttle pressure it understeers, the only way to correct it is give it more gas, but then you spin:yuck::P
 
Greycap, Leo, are you guys interested in having another test driver for your garage? I'd be glad to help.
 
We don't have any "official" test drivers, some people just have come to stay. Welcome aboard if you want to! 👍
 
We don't have any "official" test drivers, some people just have come to stay. Welcome aboard if you want to! 👍

Alright! For the times in the banners on your OP, are those times that you and Leo made or that others made with the cars?
 
I've driven all* those times, for consistency reasons as it enables comparing the cars. Different drivers with different skill levels would produce incomparable results. :)

*Scooby-Doo's time was driven by Leonidae, I haven't found the car yet.
 
I've driven all* those times, for consistency reasons as it enables comparing the cars. Different drivers with different skill levels would produce incomparable results. :)

*Scooby-Doo's time was driven by Leonidae, I haven't found the car yet.

I see. Have you ever thought of putting, maybe in parentheses, the best time that had been achieved by the car in its banner or near it?
 
Actually, no. People have driven the cars on numerous tracks, some have even changed settings slightly. The advantage gained of the new times would be close to non-existant, after all the times are there only for giving an idea of the cars' performances compared to each other.
 
Actually, no. People have driven the cars on numerous tracks, some have even changed settings slightly. The advantage gained of the new times would be close to non-existant, after all the times are there only for giving an idea of the cars' performances compared to each other.

I see where you are comin' from. Well I'll just make some runs with different cars and PM you the times if they beat the time you have listed. Sound good?
 
Boy have I got news for you, no I haven't beaten the r390 time, but I just made 1.38.921 with the CIEN, and I'm not immortal like some drivers.

Funny that you mentioned immortal drivers.. We happen to know one who is damn close to that status. he is annoyingly fast and keeps beating both me and Grey with quite a margin. And it's always up to driver and driver preferences how shockingly fast times he can put up.

There is also some others who can drive our cars faster than we can, which I find ironical and slightly annoying. :irked:

MustangGT90210, I think that you should give a thought for the amount of the cars.. and the amount of people who have tested them. Some have even been faster than we have with our cars, as I stated above. Still we haven't put up "a hall of fame", as that laptime collection could be called, because then we would need to search through way over 1000+ posts, make up some sort of form for the laptimes etc, and that would take time from the thing we do best. In addition, those times are meant to put the cars in order, and that will work only if only one driver has driven them all, so we can count out differences in driving style.
 
Funny that you mentioned immortal drivers.. We happen to know one who is damn close to that status. he is annoyingly fast and keeps beating both me and Grey with quite a margin. And it's always up to driver and driver preferences how shockingly fast times he can put up.

There is also some others who can drive our cars faster than we can, which I find ironical and slightly annoying. :irked:

MustangGT90210, I think that you should give a thought for the amount of the cars.. and the amount of people who have tested them. Some have even been faster than we have with our cars, as I stated above. Still we haven't put up "a hall of fame", as that laptime collection could be called, because then we would need to search through way over 1000+ posts, make up some sort of form for the laptimes etc, and that would take time from the thing we do best. In addition, those times are meant to put the cars in order, and that will work only if only one driver has driven them all, so we can count out differences in driving style.

Understood. You make a great point. Just keep with your tuning, love the cars!
 
Hommell Berlinette RT '99 Review – “the Berlinette isn’t confined by GT4s monotonous predictability”


Admittedly I knew very little about this car and in rushing to find it, I looked at the garage of every other peculiar make in Europe other than those of the French. Eventually after reading the description properly I quickly bought the car and figured I might as well give it a good test in stock form (whilst also using the car to earn its own credits for tuning).

After a few laps in stock form I was almost worried that any tuning would in fact ruin what appeared to be a naturally fun and lively car to drive. Other thoughts I had in mind were I just wished it had more power and a more accessible power band, hoping that MFTs setup would provide.

Taking the car to GVS, the power hike and weight reduction gave the car a real chance to shine. It felt decisive and nimble making an already impressive car even more accessible to drive. On the approach to the main straight the car proved to be stable, not exposing the ‘nervous’ feeling that I find is typical of light weight cars. It was also obvious that this car wouldn’t like contact with the curbs at all which would more often than not cause the car to slide and lose time; at times this made driving the car a frustrating affair as the slides, which were admittedly very controllable, sapped the car of the engines power and speed (which was exhausting to get since it was only really available high in the rev range).

At the first corner the brakes were well weighted and the whole package worked well with the S3 tyres, managing to keep the car in check even under some harsh braking. This allowed an iterative process of later and later braking which also demonstrated the good weight balance of the car, which didn’t shift in an abrupt manner, but rather a smooth action that was inducive to effortless cornering.

Into the next complex of fast corners the extra downforce and mechanical grip were put to good use. Initially braking on entry into the right-left s bend, I soon found that all was needed was a slight lift off the throttle. This was surprising at first since it was only initially done as a desperate attempt to get a few tenths off my lap time, but then it occurred to me that it wasn’t just a fluke but was in the main easily repeatable.

Having now hit the slower complex of corners, the mechanical grip was put to the test. At the sharp hairpin the car stayed composed and didn’t fidget even under some keen acceleration. Into the corners that followed the car was able to follow the intended lines without too much fuss, and over the short curbs, the damping was spot on keeping the car stable and the tyres in good contact with the surface of the track. The latter being particularly helpful as it made the car more responsive to all inputs without the drama of too much sliding and virtually no understeer.

For the rest of the lap the car pretty much drove itself to the finish line without any problems. My only niggle with the car is that the car likes to slide perhaps a bit too much at speed, and as said before, this is frustrating since even in the healthy part of the power band you can almost feel the energy being wasted away. Considering it doesn’t have all that much power even after tuning, every little bit helps (especially when you can see your ghost powering away :mad:).

Overall I found this car particularly rewarding and enjoyable to drive. Rewarding in the sense that the setup encouraged risk taking and more often than not you would get away with it. This was a breath of fresh air since it appears that the Berlinette isn’t confined by GT4s monotonous predictability in terms of finding a cars limits, and as an extra, gave enjoyable results by way of the extra speed gained or the kudos in having taken a more creative line.

[Hotlap replay] Hommell Berlinette RT '99 @ GVS - 1'56.472

Pyrelli
 
and our next cars will be small, 3-door front-wheel drive hatchbacks. One from Japan and one from Europe, and again, we've aimed to best possible handling with S3 tyres and no wing.
 
and our next cars will be small, 3-door front-wheel drive hatchbacks. One from Japan and one from Europe, and again, we've aimed to best possible handling with S3 tyres and no wing.

Oh crap, hot hatches, maybe if there was an Astra VXR there but I steer clear of these when I can.
 
:lol: Put your prejudices aside.. even if they don't have big, rumbling pushrod V8's from the dark ages or leafsprings from horse carriages, they might surprise.. just like my FD-R was faster than C740R..
 
oh, wait.. my bad.. FD-R is second slower that C740R. but still.. that's 1.3l engine versus 5.7l engine.. torqueless wonder versus american muscle.. and yet, difference is so small despite power and torque differences..
 
and our next cars will be small, 3-door front-wheel drive hatchbacks. One from Japan and one from Europe, and again, we've aimed to best possible handling with S3 tyres and no wing.

I sware if it's a civic..:nervous::nervous:

Do they have an Opel Astra in the game? If so, that's my guess for the euro hatch.
 
Nope, not a Civic. Something related to it, though. And no Astras that I know of, the European car is my choice so I'll say it's one of the unknown warriors of the game.
 
Nope, not a Civic. Something related to it, though. And no Astras that I know of, the European car is my choice so I'll say it's one of the unknown warriors of the game.

Well, when I first came here and saw that the Spirra was considered UNKNOWN, I was a bit taken aback. Well, you call it unknown, therefore I have probably raced it and just dont remember... =/

On the JP car, tell me it ain't no Levin/ Trueno
 
By unknown I don't mean exactly unknown as a car, but unknown as a capable car. It's considered to be more of a run-of-the-mill hatchback than a Type R killer, which it is though. Even without downforce it's capable of taking on a winged Civic with more power and coming out on top.

No no, no Levins or Truenos. Front wheel drivers this time, and yes I know that the later models under those names were FF but they weren't hatchbacks.
 
By unknown I don't mean exactly unknown as a car, but unknown as a capable car. It's considered to be more of a run-of-the-mill hatchback than a Type R killer, which it is though. Even without downforce it's capable of taking on a winged Civic with more power and coming out on top.

No no, no Levins or Truenos. Front wheel drivers this time, and yes I know that the later models under those names were FF but they weren't hatchbacks.

:dunce: I can't believe I forgot the old (AE86's) were FR!

Well, I'm out of guesses
 
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