GTP_WRS Week 24 : Official Results

Got myself a three week podium streak going! :sly: Though I have to admit there are some guys missing from D4 this week that could likely best me by a long way. Congrats to everyone that got times in and survived the week of walls! :eek:

NTSC replay below, numbered 002. Just one close call at the start of T2 but logger looks clean. Surprised even myself there the first time through. :dopey:

I am curious as to how it is determined if a replay needs to be submitted or not. Is it random or calculated by handicap or such? Or do you guys have some brews and toss darts at the list? :lol:
 

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Tires and times correct, and the lap is easily clean! 👍

Nice work, DB. Would love to give advice, but you and I were very similar except for 0.2 in T1. We both missed more than 0.5 in T3, which I'm still at a loss to find (need to look at top guys' replays). Keep this up and you'll be in D3 soon!
 
Congratulations to everyone who entered this week. I'm pretty pleased with my showing, top T2 time in Div 3, 4th in Div 3 and 3rd in the handicap.

Here's my PAL replay, numbered 11. The first sector is not good but that allowed me to relax and I went through the left-right in T2 as fast as I ever did and then I somehow pulled out a PB in T3 too.

All the best,

S
 

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Congrats everybody!!! :bowdown:
This was a tough one
I didn't submit cause I was way off pace.
 
Here is my PAL replay. Really pleased with my first D2 win because I haven't performed too well in the last few events. Now I get to watch some replays to see where I was loosing time in T2 👍

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Clean lap (Green flag isn't working for me for some reason)
I noticed that you didn't take all of the curb at turn1 and this lost some time because you had to steer quite hard to the right when coming out to miss the wall. You're T2 was nice and smooth and you took the chicane faster than I could manage. Well run lap 👍
 

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I really wanted to watch your lap as I couldn't pull off what you could with the handbrake. Turn 1 was really nice with the handbrake. The chicane was also well taken, but you couldn't even have come a millimeter closer or you would have touched the wall. In one of the few laps I got that close I lost time in the following right-hander. So you got to be careful with that. The right-hander was nice, but you lost time taking it in 2nd. What I tried to do was get the back around, so I could step on the gas early. I used brake bias 7/10. That way I had seen a 15.228 sector 2. I wonder why you couldn't think of that with all the handbrake use.:)
T3 was just really nice, only a bit wide in the first 90 degrees corner.

A well deserved division win and overall podium.👍
 
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Nice lap, I wouldn't be able to replicate that with a controller.
I'll try to give some advice (you may already know). It could be a little mistake, too late braking, but you really have to use all the curb in the first corner or you will lose lots of time there. The chicane was really nice, the way I would take it. In the next corner you could have stepped on the gas earlier. That cost you some time. You really have to use every inch, every millimeter of the track. In the 2nd corner of the last sector you went wide and you had to get back to the left quickly, that caused weight shift and you couldn't take much speed in the next corner that way. And that corner was more important than the previous one. The last corner I took in 3rd, but looking at the replay I don't think you lost much (if any) time there.

This is just my take on the lap. Congrats on 2nd place.👍


Jack, I tried to check your replay, but I think you changed the name of the folder too quickly. You can change the name of the folder after you zipped it, I don't think you can change it before you zip it.
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Wes - thank you for green flagging first and foremost. Seconly, thanks for the advice and tips too - I was trying to do most of the things that you advise, honest :) - Just lacked the skill to do them perfectly :D. Interesting that you stayed in third for the last turn - the right hander leading to the end of T2 and the last turn of the lap I flicked down to 2nd just to get the engine braking for turn in, maybe it lost a little speed but it felt comfortable and always made me hit apexes easier, I always find and I dunno if it's a DS3 thing that I have to change down a lot then back up for SOME turns on a lot of tracks, or I can't seem to slow the car down enough or get it "pointed" in the right place.

Definitely braked too late for Turn 1 though - you're right there, but I must have thundered across the line because it led to a fairly good T1 split despite not getting on the power early enough - although I did see faster for sure when running fully across the curbs.

I managed a 13.967 best T1 and the fastest I saw at T2 was 29.450 - however my posted lap with a 26.120 T3 split was the 2nd fastest I ever got and the combination of 14.041 / 15.524 / 26.120 turned out to be just too solid, the best I could have hoped for was a tenth in each at the most but that would have been a one-in-a-thousand lap and was overwhelmingly unlikely.

Anyway - thanks for the detailed analysis, much appreciated :)
 
millross
Wes - thank you for green flagging first and foremost. Seconly, thanks for the advice and tips too - I was trying to do most of the things that you advise, honest :) - Just lacked the skill to do them perfectly :D. Interesting that you stayed in third for the last turn - the right hander leading to the end of T2 and the last turn of the lap I flicked down to 2nd just to get the engine braking for turn in, maybe it lost a little speed but it felt comfortable and always made me hit apexes easier, I always find and I dunno if it's a DS3 thing that I have to change down a lot then back up for SOME turns on a lot of tracks, or I can't seem to slow the car down enough or get it "pointed" in the right place.

Definitely braked too late for Turn 1 though - you're right there, but I must have thundered across the line because it led to a fairly good T1 split despite not getting on the power early enough - although I did see faster for sure when running fully across the curbs.

I managed a 13.967 best T1 and the fastest I saw at T2 was 29.450 - however my posted lap with a 26.120 T3 split was the 2nd fastest I ever got and the combination of 14.041 / 15.524 / 26.120 turned out to be just too solid, the best I could have hoped for was a tenth in each at the most but that would have been a one-in-a-thousand lap and was overwhelmingly unlikely.

Anyway - thanks for the detailed analysis, much appreciated :)
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With that in mind you could have tried downshifting to 2nd to get the nose pointed and then immediately upshift when you get back on the gas. Sometimes that's really usefull.

Anyway here's my replay:
 

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I really wanted to watch your lap as I couldn't pull off what you could with the handbrake. Turn 1 was really nice with the handbrake. The chicane was also well taken, but you couldn't even have come a millimeter closer or you would have touched the wall. In one of the few laps I got that close I lost time in the following right-hander. So you got to be careful with that. The right-hander was nice, but you lost time taking it in 2nd. What I tried to do was get the back around, so I could step on the gas early. I used brake bias 7/10. That way I had seen a 15.228 sector 2. I wonder why you couldn't think of that with all the handbrake use.:)
T3 was just really nice, only a bit wide in the first 90 degrees corner.

A well deserved division win and overall podium.👍
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You have no idea how many times I did restart because I did come that millimeter extra (some times more) closer to the wall there :lol:

I did try early on with using the BB bias to the rear but found I was turning the car too easily when I didn't want it too. That's when I knocked it back to 5/5 for braking stability in conjunction with the HB. I think the chicane was the hardest part of this track, because if you got it slightly wrong you were off line for the next corner.

I also don't know if you did the same in the last corner of T3, but I was very slightly swerving left into the small area of extra road after the wall where the temporary barriers begin before then turning right. I found it seemed to give a better exit onto the finish line.
 
sidplayos2
You have no idea how many times I did restart because I did come that millimeter extra (some times more) closer to the wall there :lol:

I did try early on with using the BB bias to the rear but found I was turning the car too easily when I didn't want it too. That's when I knocked it back to 5/5 for braking stability in conjunction with the HB. I think the chicane was the hardest part of this track, because if you got it slightly wrong you were off line for the next corner.

I also don't know if you did the same in the last corner of T3, but I was very slightly swerving left into the small area of extra road after the wall where the temporary barriers begin before then turning right. I found it seemed to give a better exit onto the finish line.
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I don't know if I did the same.:sly:
 
Great lap Peter - handbrake-tastic 👍 A very well deserved D2 win and Podium mate :cheers:
 
sidplayos2
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Clean lap (Green flag isn't working for me for some reason)
I noticed that you didn't take all of the curb at turn1 and this lost some time because you had to steer quite hard to the right when coming out to miss the wall. You're T2 was nice and smooth and you took the chicane faster than I could manage. Well run lap 👍
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Thanks for checking. Yes, turn 1 was poor, I was generally getting 14.1s through T1 and even saw a couple of 13.9s but I wasn't consistent enough through the rest of the lap to take advantage.
 
w-g-e
I don't know if I did the same.:sly:
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Whats with the green flag not working, or it's just me?
Anyway clean lap, and I can see what you mean in T2 now. By going to close to the wall I actually ruined the line a little bit for the right hander. I can see that even though you didn't go really close, that allowed you to keep slightly going left and then could turn right from a shallower angle. When I came out of the chicane too close I needed to go a bit right (to avoid hitting the wall) but then I can't get that shallow angle for the right hander. Everytime I tried to go into that left hand area I was pointing the wrong way, watching your replay it's as clear as day now 👍

BTW, you did go into that left hand part of the track after the barrier, the difference being you probably do it subconsciously without even realizing it, while I need to concentrate hard to do it. :sly:

@Vagabond
Thanks Chris, i'll try to use a more convential style in the next one, but no promises :D
 
EDK
C'mon, that's not the point of the rule. 👎

It's so someone who does not follow the rules is not able to come waltzing into the thread after the results are posted, and say, "I ran a 54.750, so I would have beaten you, Twissy. Oh, well".

The people whose results appear in the thread followed the rules, and the quality of their effort should not be diminished by someone who is not qualified to participate or was not able to meet the deadline.

The exceptions due to our quirky Fetchbot's need for a zero are different, those folks submitted on time, and we can verify that.

If you really just have to know that time that doesn't require a replay to prove it, just PM the guy.
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Whilst I understand and respect this rule, why is this written in the qualifier thread?

Once you have submitted your qualification time you are then free to begin participating in any current GTP race event regardless of whether you know your division yet or not.
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Just saying, it's a bit mis-leading for new members. I bet this happens near every week :) It means I and a couple of other guys put quite some effort into it thinking we could post in the results thread to see how we did, even if we weren't recognised in the results. (Only to be shot down)
 
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Some amazing results people, well done! Scary to see how close the times are among a large part of the D2 drivers. :scared:

One thing is clear: I'm way off the pace for a D2 gold driver and must have put waaaaaay too much time into the qualifier. :dopey:
 
sidplayos2
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Whats with the green flag not working, or it's just me?
Anyway clean lap, and I can see what you mean in T2 now. By going to close to the wall I actually ruined the line a little bit for the right hander. I can see that even though you didn't go really close, that allowed you to keep slightly going left and then could turn right from a shallower angle. When I came out of the chicane too close I needed to go a bit right (to avoid hitting the wall) but then I can't get that shallow angle for the right hander. Everytime I tried to go into that left hand area I was pointing the wrong way, watching your replay it's as clear as day now 👍
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Thanks for checking and I'm glad it's totally clear now.👍
I actually screwed that right-hander up a bit. It should have looked differently if I didn't, but sometimes I find it hard to bring the rear out. I'm not a drifter, not even close.
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BTW, you did go into that left hand part of the track after the barrier, the difference being you probably do it subconsciously without even realizing it, while I need to concentrate hard to do it. :sly:
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Haha yes, I just steer to the left and hope I don't hit the barrier.
 
DigitalBaka
I am curious as to how it is determined if a replay needs to be submitted or not. Is it random or calculated by handicap or such? Or do you guys have some brews and toss darts at the list? :lol:
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The top 3 in each division need to submit a reply. Then everyone who beat their handicap by more than a certain margin, I think it's -0.5. Then, any first timer who wasn't required to supply a reply of their qualifier. I think that's it, although admins can request a replay from anyone they want.
 
Seismica
Whilst I understand and respect this rule, why is this written in the qualifier thread?



Just saying, it's a bit mis-leading for new members. I bet this happens near every week :) It means I and a couple of other guys put quite some effort into it thinking we could post in the results thread to see how we did, even if we weren't recognised in the results. (Only to be shot down)
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It doesn't happen that frequently, but I will spend some time clarifying the language in the thread.
 
EDK
It doesn't happen that frequently, but I will spend some time clarifying the language in the thread.
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Thankyou 👍 It seems like just an outdated rule that directly contradicted the WRS rule in question. It just needs clarifying in the qualifier thread to avoid confusion in future.
 
sidplayos2
Whats with the green flag not working, or it's just me?
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Vagabond
I can't see any green flags Kev - just the image placeholder icon. I can't load the imageshack page for the green flag either.
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The image seems to be removed / moved to another server. We'll have to upload it again. The fact that it was still working for Kevin was probably his browser cache.
 
well done everyone again...

here's my slow replay 👎

not getting much time with the WRS at the mo with a new baby in da house....
 

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Tires and times correct, and the lap is easily clean! 👍

Nice work, DB. Would love to give advice, but you and I were very similar except for 0.2 in T1. We both missed more than 0.5 in T3, which I'm still at a loss to find (need to look at top guys' replays). Keep this up and you'll be in D3 soon!
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Thanks for the check. 👍 I had that .2 many times but couldn't string it with a good lap behind. I'm sure T3 will be very enlightening from the top folks. :)

the_wilco
The top 3 in each division need to submit a reply. Then everyone who beat their handicap by more than a certain margin, I think it's -0.5. Then, any first timer who wasn't required to supply a reply of their qualifier. I think that's it, although admins can request a replay from anyone they want.
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I figured it had something to do with the handicaps. Just curious really. I'm one of the type that takes things apart just to see how it works. :lol:
 
0'56.656---GTP_kitesurfer replay verified 👍..

dont know how the green flag thingy works but all i know is the replay is clean... nice lap but if you cut the corners more your lap would of been alot quicker
 
Congrats to all the podium and division winners.

I didn't have enough time to devote to it, so sat it out. Needed a break anyway.
 
jack5428
Thanks for reviewing my lap T13R. Yeah I think I did the chicane right but I was a little off on the entry to the last big corner in T2 and ended up wide of the apex. I had to hit the throttle and try to throttle steer it but it wouldnt, then I knew i was going to smack the wall so I had to let off and floor it again. It worked and I didnt touch the wall.

Always little things like that were happening every lap thru a few of the corners. Made it real hard to beat your ghost at the end altho you new it was still possible because it makes mistakes.:)


Edit: Just want to say awesome job getting a lower time than me, I didnt realise you had before and with a DS3 and you only had half an hour to run outside upto the edges of the wall. Really nice.👍
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Thanks Jack. I had noticed you were wide of the apex in the long right hander before T2, but you had some nice car control and kept it off the wall 👍

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Nice run. 👍

You had me scared for a minute there in the first left hander, but loaded it in the logger and everything checked out.

I'm normally in the habit of giving feedback, but I only got in one session of this combo, and your lines and execution here at London were quite good. Not to mention that you are driving with a controller.
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Thanks for checking EDK.
 
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