lldantell tuning garage red bull x2010

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• Apr 29, 2012

• #1

hey im being tuning my cars but this is my first tuning thread so i gonna show you some tunes and i tune my cars with a dfgt wheel.i want to make my car turn sharper and grip better and my driving style is fast but smooth.i drive my cars with no aids on

mitsubishi evo x tc

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7026113#post7026113

Jaguar xjr-9(the premium one)

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7026473#post7026473

audi r8 4.2 fsi drift

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7026474#post7026474

blitz dunlop er34

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7028010#post7028010

mazda roadster tc

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7028297#post7028297

nissan pennzoil skyline

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7029303#post7029303

red bull x2011 prototype

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7026113#post7026113

lexus lfa

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7032932#post7032932

toyota prius tc

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7038564#post7038564

honda crz tc

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7042331#post7042331

ferrari 458 italia

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7050772#post7050772

mclaren mp4-12c

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7050772#post7050772

pagani zonda r drag tune

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7055078#post7055078

subaru impreza tc

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7057396#post7057396

nissan skyline gtr r34 tc

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7062146#post7062146

lotus elise 111 rm

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7066712#post7066712

mercedes sls amg

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7069785#post7069785

lotus evora drift tune

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7076025#post7076025

mitsubishi fto super touring car

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7081624#post7081624

nissan skyline gtr r33 tc

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7109202#post7109202

lamborghini aventador lp 700 4 '11

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7109202#post7109202

Honda integra type r touring car

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7113446#post7113446

gillet vertigo race car

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7135765#post7135765

mazda 787b

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7150191#post7150191

lexus is-f rm

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7158216#post7158216

aston martin v12 vantage

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7170849#post7170849

honda integra type rm

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7182425#post7182425

chevy camaro rm

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7203914#post7203914

high end performance g37

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7203914#post7203914

citroen gt by citroen concept

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7235234#post7235234

Nissan gtr black edition

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7240646#post7240646

mclaren f1 gtr race car

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7252062#post7252062

nissan leaf g(gt academy)

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7301719#post7301719

nissan silvia spec-r areo(gt academy)

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7334102#post7334102

Pagani zonda r

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7342017#post7342017


Pescarolo courage c60-peugeot race car

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7349045#post7349045

scion fr-s

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7351586#post7351586

nissan skyline gt-r r32 v spec ll(gt academy) '94

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7362640#post7362640


nissan 370z(gt academy)

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7393631#post7393631


nissan gtr black edition

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7240646#post7240646

ferrari enzo

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7419756#post7419756

nissan skyline gtr v spec ll nur(gt academy)

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7424222#post7424222

subaru cusco dunlop subaru impreza

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7440653#post7440653


mazda furai

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7451013#post7451013

lexus lfa nurburgring replica

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7452581#post7452581

ford ford gt

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7465301#post7465301

lister storm race car

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7469421#post7469421

nissan gtr black edition tuned car(gt academy)

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7489181#post7489181

re amemiya amemiya fd3s rx-7

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7483406#post7483406

chapperal 2j race car

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7505829#post7505829

nissan 370z tuned car(gt academy)'12

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7520728#post7520728

Tvr Cerbera speed 12

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7521035#post7521035

Nissan n24 schulze motorsport "omg"

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7559808#post7559808

toyota minolta toyota 88c-v race car

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7579359#post7579359

Chapperal 2d

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7586391#post7586391

lexus sc300

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7598573#post7598573

Dodge viper gts-r team oreca race car #51

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7615769#post7615769

peugeot 908 hdi fap - team peugeot total '10

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https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7620442#post7620442

peugeot 905 race car

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7638825#post7638825

nissan gtr n24 gt academy '12

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7650292#post7650292

Suzuki escudo dirt trial car

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7572012#post7572012

subaru brz

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7667755#post7667755

nissan silvia spec-r areo rm

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7691488#post7691488

toyota weider hsv-010

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7662469#post7662469

ferrari f2007

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7713546#post7713546

volkswagen w12 nardo concept

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7708008#post7708008

amuse s2000 gt1 turbo(scary and good one)

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7760909#post7760909

lamborghini miura p400 bertone prototype cn.076

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7782161#post7782161

gran turismo formula gran turismo

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https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=251792&page=8

tvr speed 12

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=251792&page=8

art morrison corvette

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=251792&page=8

bentley speed 8 race car

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=201649&page=253

corvette c7 test prototype

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7851299#post7851299

gran turismo ford gt lm spec ll test car

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7872851#post7872851

ruf ctr yellowbird

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7886965#post7886965

lancer evolution x tc[/I

downforce 15/35

Specs
549 hp
1115kg
600pp

Parts to buy
engine tuning stage 3
high rpm turbo

transmission
1st 3.233
2nd 2.218
3rd 1.638
4th 1.266
5th 1.025
6th 0.870
final 2.880
top speed 174

torque split differential
50/50

suspension
ride height -5/0 camber angle 0.00/0.00
dampers 12.0/12.0 toe angle -0.20/0.00
dampers extension 7/8
dampers compression 6/7
antiroll bars 6/7

tires racing soft

This thing is really sharp and there is almost no understeer in this thing.

 

Last edited: Sep 7, 2013

Milldrum

3,826

Melbourne

Milldrum

• Apr 29, 2012

• #2

I look forward to trying your tunes. Well done for this thread and good luck. 👍

 

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• Apr 29, 2012

• #3

thanks

 

shmogt

5,812

shmogt

• Apr 29, 2012

• #4

Do a new post for each car. A lot easier for people to quote when referring to something. Also are you an amazing driver?

 

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• Apr 29, 2012

• #5

shmogt

Do a new post for each car. A lot easier for people to quote when referring to something. Also are you an amazing driver?

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im not the fastest driver and im new making this thread so i dont know how to put some links in the first page which take you you to the tune and how to put pics up on my thread

 

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• Apr 29, 2012

• #6

jaguar xjr-9 lm race car '88(the premium version)

downforce 60/85

Ballast
amount 47
position -50

Specs
1005 hp
941kg
717pp

Parts to buy
high rpm turbo

transmission
1st 3.579
2nd 2.301
3rd 1.605
4th 1.173
5th 0.906
final 2.856
top speed 217

lsd
inital torque 7
acceleration sensitivity 9
braking sensitivity 30

suspension
ride height -10/-10 camber 2.5/2.0
spring rate 17.4/17.6 toe angle -0.20/0.37
damper extension 6/7
damper compression 7/8
antiroll bar 6/7

brakes 7/8

tires racing soft

This thing is really quick and it much easier to drive but, be careful with the throttle because if you give it 50% of the throttle you gonna spin out.

 

Last edited: Dec 11, 2012

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• Apr 29, 2012

• #7

audi r8 4.2 07' fsi drift tune

downforce 10/25

Ballast
Amount 71
Position 50

Specs
695 hp
1264 kg
613 pp

Parts to buy
Weight reduction stage 3
Window weight reduction
Carbon hood
Chassis reinforcement
engine tuning stage 3
ecu tuning
sport intake manifold
racing air filter
sport exhaust manifold
catalyic conveter sport
titanium racing exhaust
high rpm turbo
Carbon shaft
Flywheel semi racing
Twin plate clutch

transmission
1st 4.837
2nd 3.598
3rd 2.870
4th 2.263
5th 1.822
6th 1.533
final 2.499
top speed 143
lsd
10/38
10/41
10/18

torque sensing differential
10/90

suspension
ride height -7/-20 camber angle 0.0/0.0
spring rate 6.3/15.9 toe angle 0.00/-0.37
dampers extension 2/8
dampers compression 4/6
antiroll bars 3/7

tires comfort hard

I love this car so much because it is such a good drift car. It's controllable and it could do some big drifts.

 

Last edited: Jan 30, 2013

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• Apr 29, 2012

• #8

Blitz Dunlop er34 skyline 07'

Downforce 20/50

Specs
599 hp
1252kg
596pp

Parts to buy
high rpm turbo

transmission
1st 3.019
2nd 2.078
3rd 1.537
4th 1.196
5th 0.950
6th 0.768

LSD
Intial torque 7
Acceleration sensitivity 30
Braking sensitivity 15

Suspension
Ride height -15/-10 Camber angle 2.5/2.0
Spring rate 10.0/12.0. Toe angle -0.20/0.00
Dampers extension 6/5
Dampers compression 6/6
Antiroll bars 6/7

Tires racing soft

This thing handles like a f1 car, Its really sharp and it got tons of grip. It might look like a drift car but, it's a racing car now.

 

Last edited: Dec 11, 2012

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• Apr 29, 2012

• #9

mazda roadster tc

downforce 20/50

ballast
amount 84
position 50

Specs
267 hp
879 kg(light car)
500pp

Parts to buy
engine tuning stage 3
high rpm turbo

transmission
1st 3.281
2nd 2.303
3rd 1.710
4th 1.283
5th 1.012
final 3.092
top speed 162

lsd
initial torque 8
acceleration sensitivity 12
braking sensitivity 20

suspension
ride height -20/-20 camber 3.0/2.0
spring rate 10.0/11.0 toe angle -0.20/0.00
damper extension 6/7
damper compression 7/8
antiroll bars 6/7

brakes 2/7

I love this car because it like a go kart to drive, but it is a lot gripper and there is no understeer in this thing. It handles almost perfectly and that's why i love this car

 

Last edited: Dec 11, 2012

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• Apr 29, 2012

• #10

nissan pennzoil nismo gtr 99'

downforce 35/60

Specs
564 hp
1200kg
617pp

Parts to buy
high rpm turbo

transmission
1st 3.347
2nd 2.255
3rd 1.647
4th1.261
5th 1.013
6th 0.853
final 3.545
top speed 193

lsd
inital torque 8
acceleration sensitivity 16
braking sensitivity 20

suspension
ride height -15/-10 camber angle 3.0/4.5
spring rate 17.0/16.0 toe angle -0.20/0.30
dampers extension 8/8
dampers compression 8/8
antiroll bars 6/7

brakes 6/7

tires racing soft

Now this is what a racing car should handle, Sharp steering, Good front and rear grip but be careful with the throttle as it will launch into a controlled slide.

 

Last edited: Dec 11, 2012

obsessive rules

(Banned)

2,002

CARLISLEcumbria

warmachine277-

• Apr 29, 2012

• #11

Good luck with the garage. Little tip, the best advertising would be to get someone like c-zeta to review your tunes, it can also be any popular review thread, lots of people will see it and if it's good, go to your garage. \[°°]/ yay!

 

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• Apr 30, 2012

• #12

red bull x2011 prototype 11'

downforce
79/105

Ballast
Amount 57
Position -50

Specs
1634,hp
602 kg
973 pp

transmission
1st 7.344
2nd 4.168
3rd 3.267
4th 2.456
5th 1.854
6th 1.496
7th 1.245
final 3.111
top speed 311

Initial torque 14
Acceleration sensitivity 18
Braking sensitivity 21

suspension
ride height 0/0 camber 0.9/1.2
spring rate 18.0/18.1 toe angle -0.50/0.39
dampers extension 5/6
dampers compression 4/7
antiroll bars 7/7

brakes 5/5

tires racing soft

i think im the only one here that did a tune for this thing at spa. it's a real powerhouse, you can go 290 mph real easy and this is the grippest car ever, however if you drive over some grass then you gonna spin out. But this is my favorite car i ever tuned and is a real speed machine. This car is for people that use a wheel instead of a controller, it might be undriveable with a controller.

 

Last edited: Dec 28, 2012

praiano63

12,629

paracuru

praiano63

• Apr 30, 2012

• #13

Well done my friend, good to see a new garage. Let´s race our tunes together and have fun, like we did this last days.
Good luck.

 

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• Apr 30, 2012

• #14

Thanks praiano I just did a lfa tune around the nurburgring it pretty easy to drive and man this thing screams.it rev up to 10,000 rpm but I have to put the tune up tomarrow because it's my bed time now so good night

 

Last edited: Apr 30, 2012

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• Apr 30, 2012

• #15

i think at like 3:30 i gonna post the lfa tune

 

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• Apr 30, 2012

• #16

Lexus lfa 10'

Ballast
Amount 45
Position 50

Specs
617 hp
1525 kg
554 pp

Parts to buy
Ecu tuning
Racing air filter
Sport intake manifold
Sport exhaust manifold
Catalytic converter
Titanium racing exhaust
Twin plate clutch
Semi racing flywheel
Carbon shaft

Transmission
1st 4.452
2nd 2.993
3rd 2.287
4th 1.765
5th 1.403
6th 1.163
Final 3.267
Top speed 217

LSD
Initial torque 15
Acceleration sensitivity 17
Braking sensitivity 20

Suspension
Ride height -8/-10 Camber 2.5/1.8
Spring rate 12.9/12.0 Toe angle -0.10/0.00
Dampers extension 3/4
Dampers compression 4/5
Antiroll bars 5/6

Brakes 6/4

Tires racing soft

It took some time try to tune this thing because it was pretty unstable when I try to tune it. But now it's much more stable and gripper and it stays planted. I love the noise of this thing with the standard exhaust, this thing revs up to 10,000 rpm and it absolutely screams like a f1 car.

 

Last edited: Dec 27, 2012

M

Mac1972

10

72300

MANOSAXL

• May 1, 2012

• #17

Nice garage.Keep the good work

 

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• May 1, 2012

• #18

Mac1972

Nice garage.Keep the good work

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Thanks I hope

 

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• May 1, 2012

• #19

how to put videos in my thread

 

Bogger

101

bog_bosworth

• May 1, 2012

• #20

lldantell

audi r8 4.2 07' fsi drift tune

downforce 10/25

Specs
695 hp
1264 kg
613 pp

Parts to buy
engine stage 3
ecu tuning
sport intake manifold
racing air filter
sport exhaust manifold
catalyic conveter sport
titanium racing exhaust
high rpm turbo
Carbon shaft
Flywheel semi racing
Twin plate clutch

transmission
1st 4.837
2nd 3.598
3rd 2.870
4th 2.263
5th 1.822
6th 1.533
final 2.499
top speed 143

lsd
10/60
10/50
10/40

torque sensing differential
10/90

suspension
ride height -10/-20 camber angle 0.0/0.0
spring rate 6.3/15.9 toe angle 0.00/-0.37
dampers extension 3/10
dampers compression 2/10
antiroll bars 4/7

tires comfort hard

i love this car it such a good drift car. it controllable and it could do some big drifts

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Firstly I would like to say good luck on your tuning and thread.

I am a tuner also but I dont have a thread. I like to try other peoples tunes too. (Will give feedback)

Could you tell me a bit more info please.
Brake balance? and do you use Rigidity Improvement?

I dont really do drift tunes but I will defiantly give this one a try..

Thank you for sharing

 

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• May 1, 2012

• #21

Bogger

Firstly I would like to say good luck on your tuning and thread.

I am a tuner also but I dont have a thread. I like to try other peoples tunes too. (Will give feedback)

Could you tell me a bit more info please.
Brake balance? and do you use Rigidity Improvement?

I dont really do drift tunes but I will defiantly give this one a try..

Thank you for sharing

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I use the chassis reinforcement and the brake balance is 5/5 and I use weight reduction stage 3,window weight reduction,and carbon hood

Sorry about that

 

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• May 2, 2012

• #22

prius tc

downforce
20/50

ballast
amount 79
position -50

specs
228 hp
1114 kg
472 pp

parts to buy
engine tuning stage 3

lsd
inital torque 30
acceleration sensitivity 50
braking sensitivity 30

suspension
ride height 0/0 camber 4.0/3.0
spring rate 10.0/11.0 toe angle -0.20/0.00
dampers extension 7/8
dampers compression 6/7
antiroll bars 5/7

brake balance 5/5

tires racing soft

Im not a fan of the Prius, I always think it's slow but, this thing accelerates and grips like no other Prius. No race car, x1 aside, grips better then this car, it go around a corner at 120 mph and it doesn't understeer because of the ballast and the downforce. I love this thing, it's one of my favorite race cars.

 

Last edited: Nov 9, 2012

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• May 3, 2012

• #23

Honda cr-z tc

downforce
20/50

ballast
amount 100
position 50

specs
297 hp
1010 kg
510 pp

parts to buy
engine tuning stage 3
high rpm turbo

transmission
1st 3.913
2nd 2.546
3rd 1.947
4th 1.507
5th 1.157
6th 0.942
final 3.608
top speed 149

lsd
inital torque 7
acceleration sensitivity 15
braking sensitivity 32

suspension
ride height 0/0 camber 2.2/2.3
spring rate 12.0/11.0 toe angle -0.10/0.00
dampers extension 7/8
dampers compression 6/7
antiroll bars 5/7

brakes
5/5

tires racing soft

The front tires feel like it on rails!!! it sometimes understeers and grips. It's easy to drive but this is more of beginners car than a real drivers car.

 

Last edited: Nov 9, 2012

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• May 4, 2012

• #24

Ferrari 458 italia

ballast
amount 56
position -50

downforce
10/40

specs
672 hp
1288 kg
604pp

parts to buy
weight reduction stage 3
window weight reduction
carbon hood
chassis reinforcement
ecu tuning
engine tuning stage 3
sports intake manifold
racing air filter
sport exhaust manifold
catalytic converter
titanium racing exhaust

transmission
1st 3.312
2nd 2.512
3rd 2.033
4th 1.651
5th 1.387
6th 1.155
7th 1.016
final 3.920
top speed 155

lsd
inital torque 10
acceleration sensitivity 20
braking sensitivity 30

suspension
ride height -20/-15 camber 2.3/2.7
spring rate 15.0/16.0 toe angle -0.20/0.30
dampers extension 7/8
dampers compression 6/7
antiroll bars 6/7

brakes
6/7

tires racing soft

Man this car feels good to drive. I think this is why people like praiano,shmo gt,vtiroj,etc. want to tune this car.it such a good drivers car!!! the front feel connected to the road. It is pretty bumpy around the nurburgring this thing is really stiff however it feels safe now.

 

Last edited: Nov 9, 2012

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• May 5, 2012

• #25

mclaren mp4-12c

ballast
amount 83
position -50

downforce
0/13

specs
868 hp
1202 kg
622 pp

parts to buy
weight reduction stage 3
window weight reduction
carbon hood
chassis reinforcement
engine tuning stage 3
ecu tuning
sports intake manifold
racing air filter
sports exhaust manifold
catalytic converter sport
titanium racing exhaust
high rpm turbo

transmission
1st 4.762
2nd 3.294
3rd 2.443
4th 1.898
5th 1.498
6th 1.204
7th 0.998
final drive 3.294
top speed 217

lsd
inital torque 10
acceleration sensitivity 14
braking sensitivity 11

suspension
ride height -17/-14 camber0.0/0.0
spring rate 13.1/11.9 toe angle -0.09/-0.14
dampers extension 3/4
dampers compression 2/3
antiroll bars 4/4

brakes
7/6

tires racing soft

This is one tricky car to drive and a tricky car to tune because I spent all of my time tuning the suspension but i gave up so i looked up the best tuner ever, use the tuners suspension and then adjust it a bit. Then i finally got a suspension setup. This is by far tricker to drive than the 458 but it still driveable.

 

Last edited: Mar 19, 2013

Milldrum

3,826

Melbourne

Milldrum

• May 5, 2012

• #26

I think you might need to put links in the first post to your tunes now. Or a list of the post number for each tune. Some sort of order to it all. But good job so far.

 

Blank101

(Banned)

101

Under the Hood

jth_101

No way!

• May 5, 2012

• #27

Nice job, man!

 

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• May 5, 2012

• #28

Milldrum

I think you might need to put links in the first post to your tunes now. Or a list of the post number for each tune. Some sort of order to it all. But good job so far.

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I don't know how

 

lldantell

3,299

Westchester,il

ishawi

• May 5, 2012

• #29

Blank101

Nice job, man!

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Thanks

 

Milldrum

3,826

Melbourne

Milldrum

• May 6, 2012

• #30

Edit: Maybe PM someone from FITT. Those guys are very helpful.