GTP NASCAR Winston Cup S1 Official Thread

GTP NASCAR Winston Cup Series


Welcome to the Inaugural Season of the GTP NASCAR Winston Cup Championship!

Part of the GTP NASCAR Association! To read more on GTP NASCAR Association: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7402082#post7402082


INTRODUCTION
The idea is to re-create Vintage Muscle Car/Stock Car racing. This series will be primarily raced on Oval Tracks. But the one element that will set this series apart from others is its Roots to Grass-Roots Racing. I will feature a few created tracks or "Home Tracks" into this series.

This series will copy from the 1971 NASCAR season. In this season they held combined, mixed-division races due to low attendance and dis-interest. Examples from the '71 season include "Texas 500" at Texas World Speedway (old defunct 2.0mi SuperSpeedway) where Winston Cup cars raced with Grand American spec'd cars. Also the "Miller High Life 500" when Winston Cup combined raced with the Winston West Series spec'd cars. Other examples date pre-1970 when Winston West would combine with Late Model Sportsman Divisions and/or Pacific Coast Late Model Sportsman Divisions.

This season will consist of 9 races. All races will be combined/mixed-division races. Drivers will be racing for the Driver's Championship in their respective Division(s). Division I is the "Winston Cup Driver's Championship" & Division II is the "Division II Stock Cars Driver's Championship". All drivers will drive for one make only and will contribute to the "Make's Championship".



Drivers Registration Here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7357168#post7357168



Car Spec's Here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7357106#post7357106
Regulations, Restrictions & Rules Here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7357110#post7357110



Races will be held at 8pm CDT Weekday Nights (Start Date & Race Day TBD). One race a week. Will hold Public Poll with Options of Mon, Tues, Wed or Thurs.

Public Lobby Hosted by me. Send PSN Friend Request to "Crazy_bassist_83" if you wish to race in this series.

8pm CDT - Free Run/Tuning/Practice for 15min.
8:15pm CDT - Track reset and Qualifying begins. Qualifying lasts approximately 10min.
8:25pm CDT - Pre-Race Inspection / Post-Qualifying Regulations (See Qualifying/Inspection Procedure)
8:30pm CDT - Race Begins (Races will last approximately 30 minutes).

Race Day will only be 1 hour long with Free Run, Qualifying/Inspection & Race.



Schedule Here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7357121#post7357121


Championship's


Standings Here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7357165#post7357165

Winston Cup Championship

Div. II Stock Cars Championship

*A driver can only chose one Division. All drivers choose only one Make.*

Makes Championship (combines Top 2 points in combined field from each make)

Driver's Championship Points Breakdown:

Points will be awarded as follows for each Driver's Championship:

1st place - 20 points
2nd place - 18 points
3rd place - 16 points
4th place - 14 points
5th place - 12 points
6th place - 11 points
7th place - 10 points
8th place - 9 points
9th place - 8 points
10th place - 7 points
11th place - 6 points
12th place - 5 points
13th place - 4 points
14th place - 3 points
15th place - 2 points
16th place - 1 point

+1 point for leading a lap
+1 point for leading the most laps (only one driver can earn this)
+1 point for Pole Position (only one driver can earn this)

EXPLAINATION OF POINTS SCORING:

Only one driver can win a race, so some races will have Winston Cup winners and some will not. Instead they may be won by a Grand Am driver. If a Grand Am driver wins, they get first place points. And if a Winston Cup driver comes in second to the Grand Am driver, they would receive only 2nd place points.

Interest Check Thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7305363#post7305363

Car Spec's

CAR SPECS

Parts/Tuning/Mods allowed:
Engine Upgrades 1,2 & 3***
Weight Reduction Stage 1,2 & 3 (or less if noted) **1400KG RESTRICTION**
Window Weight Reduction
Carbon Hood
Chassis Reinforcement
Full Upgraded Drivetrain
Custom Transmission
Custom Suspension
Exhaust Parts***
Intake Parts***
Superchargers & Aerodynamics (allowed only on certain cars).*

Supercharger* is allowed only on the Camaro SS & Camaro Z/28.

Rear Aero* is allowed(permitted) on Winston West Spec Cars only if it's not a big wing, can be a small spoiler.

Rear Aero* is not allowed(prohibited) on Winston Cup Spec Cars (except Superbird with non-adjustable stock Wing) and Late Model Sportsman (can't add on GTO & Cougar only has option for a Big Wing).

Front Aero* and Rear Aero* is allowed(permitted) on Grand American Spec Cars.

To summarize what cars with Rear Aero*(small Spoilers) is allowed(permitted) on is the Camaro Z/28, Mustang Mach 1, Challenger, Super Bee & Cuda.


Oil Change as much as needed
Recommend Rebuild Chassis & Engine


***Tuning the engine is free. Can use restrictor plates, stock engines or engine upgrades.***

Testing Log Here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7307616#post7307616

Winston Cup & Div. II
- No 6 Speed GearBoxes (No Buick)
- No add-on GT-Auto Wings (unless otherwise noted) or Hideous, Huge Wings (Big Wings)
- Ballast is allowed to tune weight.

Winston Cup Only
- No Front Aero Options; Rear Aero not allowed to install; only car to have a wing is "Superbird"

Grand American Only
- Front Aero Allowed (non-adjustable) (Camaro Z28, Mustamg Mach 1 & Challenger R/T allowed.)
- Rear Aero Allowed (No Hiedeous, Huge Wings. Small "Stock" Style Wings allowed.)


NASCAR Winston Cup Series

**1400KG RESTRICTION**

Division I - Winston Cup (Winston Cup Championship)
SPECS: 1400kg 190mph or 49.7-49.9 / lap @ Daytona
NO AERO / NO GT AUTO WINGS / NO ECU / NO SUPERCHARGER


FORD

1970 Ford Mustang Trans-Cammer (Ford-Ford Motors Co.)
427cu.in. SOHC V8 661HP Stock (6998cc)
Stock Engine @ 64.1% + Racing Exhaust = 440HP
WR3/WWR/CR/No Ballast (1470kg)/514PP
Top Speed @ Test Track: 190.9mph
Daytona Top Speed:
Daytona Lap Time:


CHRYSLER

1970 Plymouth Superbird (Plymouth-Chrysler)
426cu.in. HEMI V8 419HP Stock (6981cc)
Engine Stage 3 @ 85.4% + Racing Exhaust = 510HP
WR3/WWR/CR/+77kg Ballast/525PP
Top Speed @ Test Track: 190.4mph
Daytona Top Speed:
Daytona Lap Time: 50.1 (need to re-test & add more HP)

1970 Dodge Charger 440 R/T (Dodge-Chrysler)
440cu.in. OHV V8 375HP Stock (7210cc)
Engine Stage 3 @ 99.1% + Racing Exhaust/SEM/CC = 580HP
WR3/WWR/CR/+57kg Ballast/539PP
Top Speed @ Test Track: 190.4mph
Daytona Top Speed:
Daytona Lap Time: 49.7


GMC

1971 Chevrolet Chevelle 454 SS (Chevrolet-GMC)
454cu.in. L56 V8 495HP Stock (7440cc)
Engine Stage 3 @ 99.6% + Racing Exhaust/SEM/CC/SIM = 670HP
WR3/WWR/CR/+71kg Ballast/548PP
Top Speed @ Test Track: 190.4mph
Daytona Top Speed:
Daytona Lap Time: 49.8



Division II - Winston West / Late Model Sportsman / Grand American (Div. II Stock Cars Championship)
SPECS: 1400kg 190mph or 50.2-50.3 / lap @ Daytona
NO ECU / NO AERO or WINGS unless noted / NO SUPERCHARGER unless noted


FORD

1970 Ford Mustang Trans-Cammer (Ford-Ford Motors Co.) (Winston West)
427cu.in. SOHC V8 661HP Stock (6998cc)
Stock Engine @ xxx% + Racing Exhaust = xxxHP
WR3/WWR/CR/No Ballast (1470kg)/xxxPP
Top Speed @ Test Track: xxxxmph
Daytona Top Speed:
Daytona Lap Time:

1971 Ford Mustang Mach 1 (Ford Mustang-Ford Motors Co.) (Grand American)
351cu.in. RAM AIR V8 300HP Stock (5752cc)
Engine Stage 3 @ xxx% + Racing Exhaust = xxxHP
WR2/WWR/CR/+22kg Ballast/ F & R AERO / xxxPP
Top Speed @ Test Track: xxxxmph
Daytona Top Speed:
Daytona Lap Time:

1967 Mercury Cougar XR-7 (Mercury/Ford-Ford Motors Co.) (Grand American & Late Model Sportsman)
390cu.in. V8 330HP Stock (6391cc)
Engine Stage 3 @ xxx% + Racing Exhaust = xxxHP
WR1/WWR/CR/+106kg Ballast/xxxPP
Top Speed @ Test Track: xxxxmph
Daytona Top Speed:
Dayton Lap Time:


GMC

1971 Chevrolet Chevelle 454 SS (Chevrolet-GMC) (Winston West)
454cu.in. L56 V8 495HP Stock (7440cc)
Engine Stage 3 @ xxx% + Racing Exhaust/SEM/CC/SIM = xxxHP
WR3/WWR/CR/+71kg Ballast/xxxPP
Top Speed @ Test Track: xxxxmph
Daytona Top Speed:
Daytona Lap Time:

1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS (Chevrolet-GMC) (Winston West)
396cu.in. L35 V8 321HP Stock (5737cc)
Engine Stage 3 @ 87.8% + Racing Exhaust/SEM/CC/SIM/RAF/SUPERCHARGER = 485HP
WWR/CR/+9kg Ballast/523PP
Top Speed @ Test Track: 190.9mph
Daytona Top Speed:
Daytona Lap Time:

1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 (Chevrolet Camaro-GMC) (Grand American)
320cu.in. OHV V8 290HP Stock (4949cc)
Engine Stage 3 @ 99.6% + Racing Exhaust/SEM/CC = 480HP
WR1/WWR/CH/CR/+114kg Ballast/ F & R AERO / 539PP
Top Speed @ Test Track: 190.2mph
Daytona Top Speed:
Daytona Lap Time: 50.2

1964 Pontiac Tempest Le Mans GTO (Pontiac-GMC) (Late Model Sportsman)
389cu.in. OHV V8 325HP Stock (6375cc)
Engine Stage 3 @ xxx% + Racing Exhaust = xxxHP
WR1/WWR/CR/+104kg Ballast/xxxPP
Top Speed @ Test Track: xxxxmph
Daytona Top Speed:
Daytona Lap Time:


CHRYSLER

1971 Charger Super Bee 426 Hemi (Dodge-Chrysler) (Winston West)
426cu.in. HEMI V8 330HP Stock (6981cc)
Engine Stage 3 @ xxx% + Racing Exhaust = xxxHP
WR3/WWR/CR/+11kg Ballast/xxxPP
Top Speed @ Test Track: xxxxmph
Daytona Top Speed:
Daytona Lap Time:

1971 Plymouth Cuda 440 Six Pack (Plymouth-Chrysler) (Winston West)
440cu.in. Six Pack V8 405HP Stock (7210cc)
Engine Stage 3 @ 81.0% + Racing Exhaust = 470HP
WR2/WWR/CR/+55kg Ballast/520PP
Top Speed @ Test Track: 190.3mph
Daytona Top Speed:
Daytona Lap Time: 50.3

1970 Dodge Challenger R/T (Dodge-Chrysler) (Grand American & Late Model Sportsman)
426cu.in. HEMI V8 xxxHP Stock (6981cc)
Top Speed @ Test Track: xxxxmph
Daytona Top Speed:
Daytona Lap Tme:

*Note - These are suggested tunings. Engine tuning and weight tuning is free. HP is Mandatory!
Only restrictions are NO ECU / NO AERO or WINGS unless noted / NO SUPERCHARGER unless noted.

Regulations / Race Rules & Etiquette

REGULATIONS
ABS @ 1
No Other Driving Aids
Tire Wear OFF or ON - pending track
Grip LOW
Light Damage - pending, may be turned OFF
Slipstream WEAK
Boost OFF

**1400KG RESTRICTION**

SPORTS SOFT TIRES ARE TO BE THE ONLY COMPOUND USED

Races will have one or two opening pace laps for tire warmup, regriding and formation.
Grid Start with 2 or more Formation Laps (Pace Laps)(See Pace Lap Procedure)
Competition Caution at 1/3rd Race Distance (See Competition Caution Procedure)
Most or All Races will be Double File Start and ReStart.


RACE CLEAN - It's OK (and expected) to let off of the gas (or even lightly brake) so you don't run over someone in a turn. This is especially true at oval tracks, where high-speed drafting can cause issues with drivers being spun out in corners.

Bumpdrafting is LEGAL. Please be careful when bumpdrafting, as bumping in corners is sometimes dangerous.

No speed limit is enforced upon entering pit road. Be warned that GT5 can sometimes assess a 10-second penalty for entering pit road too quickly, but it is entirely dependent on the track and where your pit box is located specifically. Please give other drivers space and courtesy to enter pit road safely.

While exiting pit road, every driver must remain in the single furthest inside lane. Drivers are not required to run the apron/service road until the back straightaway, but they are required to stay in the very inside lane when they do merge on to the racing surface. At Daytona, you must stay below the thick yellow line before merging up to the inside lane.

ALL PAVED SURFACES INCLUDING RUMBLE STRIPS ARE CONSIDERED LEGAL RACING SURFACES.
NO CROSSING YELLOW LINE AT DAYTONA.
CAN PASS BELOW WHITE LINE AT TOKYO BAY CREATED TRACKS.

PROCEDURES
SEE QUALIFYING https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7357112#post7357112
SEE POST QUALIFYING / PRE RACE INSPECTION https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7357114#post7357114
SEE PRE RACE PACE LAPS https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7357116#post7357116
SEE COMPETITION CAUTION https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7357118#post7357118
SEE ADDITIONAL YELLOW FLAG/CAUTION https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7357120#post7357120

Qualifying Procedure

Qualify for 10minutes. Stay in pitbox when done with laps.

The host will write the lap times down in grid order and set pole position.

Driver on Pole will receive +1pt. Bonus to the Race Points they accumulate.

The host will then call everyone off the track.

The host will reset the track and start the Post-Qualifying/Pre-Race Inspection Procedure.

Drivers will be able to switch to race tune sheet in their settings at this time.

Post-Qualifying/Pre-Race Inspection Procedure

Combined Division I & II races. Set weight restriction to 1400kg. Enter each car model by HP restriction starting with the lowest HP restriction first and enter each car model with each change in restriction. No car that passes restriction is to leave the pit-box and enter the lobby. If you do so it will be deemed as cheating.

I will be clear on voice chat and type chat to when you are to have your car spec'd and I will give you an additional minute to go through your settings one last time. If someone leaves the pitpox they have forfeited the race as we will not waste our time going through the restrictions once more. It needs to be done in order to be done efficiently and effectively.

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***THIS WILL CHANGE ONCE EVERY CARS HP IS FINALIZED***

***Important*** Once a driver is called to track, they are not to leave the pit box at all.

EXAMPLE -

I.)Set Regulations: 350hp 1400kg
Call Cars to Track: Mustang Mach 1 (1400kg)

II.)Set Regulations: 365hp 1400kg
Call Cars to Track: Cougar XR-7

III.)Set Regulations: 380hp 1400kg
Call Cars to Track: Cuda 440 Six Pack

IV.)Set Regulations: 385hp 1400kg
Call Cars to Track: Camaro Z28

V.)Set Regualtions: 405hp 1400kg
Call Cars to Track: LeMans GTO

Pre-Race Pace Laps Procedure

If this is a 30 lap Race. We will add +3 Laps to the beginning. Thus making it 33 Laps.


Lap 1 - Red Flag. Host will call out Grid Formation in Order from Qualifying. The driver who's name is called is to pull to back stretch in position/order they are/were called in.

Lap 2 - Yellow Flag. This is a Parade Lap. Speed Limit TBD per track. Typically 55mph.

Lap 3 - Final Parade Lap; Race Start at Start Line. driver's are to accelerate up to Top Speed Once they reach the Front Stretch. No Passing Till After Turn 1. Race Begins.

Competition Caution Procedure

Will be held at 1/3rd of Race Distance. If this is a 30 lap Race with +3 Laps for Pre-Race Pace Laps = 33 Laps. We will add an additional 3 Laps to the Total Lap Count. Thus Equaling 36 Laps.
(3 Pre-Race Pace Laps / 30 Race Laps + 3 Laps Under Competition Caution = 36 Laps)

With the Competition Caution being held at 1/3rd Race Distance we will use this model:
30 Race Laps with Competition Included (33 Laps) =
(10 Opening Race Laps / 3 Laps Under Competition Caution / 20 Closing Race Laps).

And if you include the Pre-Race Pace Laps a Typical 30 Lap Race will be broken down such as:
3 Pre-Race Pace laps / 10 Opening Race Laps / 3 Laps Under Competition Caution / 20 Closing Race Laps =
Total 36 Laps. This way we get to drive the full race distance.


Once the Lead driver passes the line on the starting lap of the Competition Caution, he is to slow down to the appropriate, pre-determined speed limit. All cars one lap down may take a "Go-Around" but may not pass another lapped-car for position.


Lap 1 - Re-Formation / Lapped cars get one lap back

Lap 2 - Parade Lap

Lap 3 - Final Parade Lap & Race Restart

ADDITIONAL YELLOW FLAG / CAUTION PROCEDURES

If there is any accident on Lap 1 of Race Start or on lap 1 after the Competition Caution Race Restart we will do another Caution for 3 Laps as Outlined in the Competition Caution or Pre-Race Pace Laps. With the exclusion to "Go-Arounds", Only one "Lucky-Dog" Driver may take a pass around and get a lap back if needed.

If there is a major wreck that involves 33% of the field (5/16 cars) there will be any additional Caution periods. These types of Cautions will have a Red Flag. All cars will Stop in Order. Only a "Lucky Dog" may get a wave around during this Red Flag. No Cars are to change position.

Now these additional Cautions should not be a problem. As we are not driving full power NASCARs.


GUIDE-LINES FOR RACING INCIDENTS
If there is an incident between two drivers, you are to stay off the driving line to the side of the track until traffic clears. Then the driver who caused the incident must let the victim driver ahead of him for at least one full lap till he may attempt to pass him again.

If any one driver gets loose or spun around on his own, he is to follow the same procedure as above to stay out of traffic.

Any serious two to four car incidents after Competition Caution will be reviewed for possible Post-Race Penalties. Penalties may include loss of finishing position or a time deduction up to 30 seconds. Penalties will be at Host's discretion.

Individuals involved in any said incidents should PM me your concerns and to be as specific so the Host can Review as effectively as possible.

Schedule TBD

Schedule Concept
Combined Division I & II races. Set weight restriction to 1400kg. Enter each car model by HP restriction starting with the lowest HP restriction first and enter each car model with each change in restriction. No car that passes restriction is to leave the pit-box and enter the lobby. If you do so it will be deemed as cheating.

I will be clear on voice chat and type chat to when you are to have your car spec'd and I will give you an additional minute to go through your settings one last time. If someone leaves the pitpox they have forfeited the race as we will not waste our time going through the restrictions once more. It needs to be done in order to be done efficiently and effectively.

There will be 10 minute Qualifying Session before Race. Bonus Point will be given to Pole Sitter. Grid will be set by Pole Position. Pace Laps are in place to set correct Grid Positions.

Race ## Div. I / Div. II Combined Race

Race #1 WINSTON CUP / WINSTON WEST
Race #2 WINSTON CUP / GRAND AMERICAN
Race #3 WINSTON CUP / LATE MODEL SPORTSMAN
Race #4 WINSTON CUP / WINSTON WEST
Race #5 WINSTON CUP / LATE MODEL SPORTSMAN
Race #6 WINSTON CUP / GRAND AMERICAN
Race #7 WINSTON CUP / LATE MODEL SPORTSMAN
Race #8 WINSTON CUP / GRAND AMERICAN
Race #9 WINSTON CUP / WINSTON WEST

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TRACK SELECTION

Race ## Div. I / Div. II Combined Race

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"Daytona 100" 40 laps @ Daytona
Race #1 WINSTON CUP / WINSTON WEST
@ Daytona SuperSpeedway
-SERIES KICK-OFF / SERIES PREMIERE
-FIRST GTP NASCAR MIXED DIVISION RACE
*TIRE WEAR ON (Provisional)

"Motor Trend 50" 20 laps @ Riverside
Race #2 WINSTON CUP / GRAND AMERICAN
@ High Speed Ring (in place of Riverside)
-"ROAD COURSE" SERIES FEATURE RACE
*TIRE WEAR ON (Provisional)

"Myers Brothers 30" 100 laps @ Bowman-Gray
Race #3 WINSTON CUP / LATE MODEL SPORTSMAN
@ Bowman-Gray (created Tokyo Bay Left Turn .30mi Oval)
-"SHORT TRACK" SERIES FEATURE RACE
*TIRE WEAR OFF

"Miller High Life 100" 40 laps @ Ontario
Race #4 WINSTON CUP / WINSTON WEST
@ Indy Motor Speedway (this is in place of Ontario Speedway, CA "Indy of the West")
-"THROW-BACK" SERIES FEATURE RACE
*TIRE WEAR ON (Provisional)

"Fair Stock 50" 50 laps @ Milwaukee Mile
Race #5 WINSTON CUP / LATE MODEL SPORTSMAN
@ Milwaukee Mile (created Tokyo Bay Left Turn .89mi Oval)
-"1 MILE OVAL" SERIES FEATURE RACE
*TIRE WEAR OFF

"Lincoln 40" 30 laps @ Illinois State Fairgrounds
Race #6 WINSTON CUP / GRAND AMERICAN
@ Illinois State Fairgrounds (created Leige (Gravel) Course Right Turn Only 1.3mi Dirt Oval)
-"GRAVEL TRACK" SERIES FEATURE RACE
*TIRE WEAR ON (Provisional)

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SEMI-FINALS

"Greenville 50" 100 laps @ Greensville-Pickens
Race #7 WINSTON CUP / LATE MODEL SPORTSMAN
@ Greensville-Pickens (created Tokyo Bay Left Turn .49mi Oval)
-"Late Model Sportsman Championship"
*TIRE WEAR OFF

"Rebel 50" 34 laps @ Darlington
Race #8 WINSTON CUP / GRAND AMERICAN
@ Motegi Speedway (this is in place of Darlington Speedway)
-"Grand American Championship"
*TIRE WEAR ON (Provisional)

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FINALS

"Copper State 50"50 laps @ Phoenix
Race #9 WINSTON CUP / WINSTON WEST
@ Phoenix International Raceway (created Tokyo Bay Left Turn .87mi Kidney Bean Oval)
-Winston Cup Driver's Championship
-Div. II Stock Cars Driver's Championship
-Make's Championship
-"Winston West Championship"
*TIRE WEAR OFF



*Note - Tire Wear will be set OFF at all Tokyo Bay created tracks. Tire Wear will be ON Provisionally until confirmed officially at HSR, Daytona, Indy, Motegi & Leige Gravel (created).

NASCAR Winston Cup Championship Standings


Winston Cup Driver's Championship Points Standings


Division II Stock Cars Driver's Championship Points Standings

Winston West Championship

Grand American Championship

Late Model Series Championship


Makes' Championship Points Standings

Driver/Division/Make Registration

NASCAR Winston Cup Series

Championships
Winston Cup Championship (Div. I Driver's Points Championship)
Div. II Stock Cars Championship (Div. II Driver's Points Championship)
Makes Championship (GMC/Ford Motors Co./Chrysler)


Division I - Winston Cup (Winston Cup Championship)
SPECS: 1400kg 190mph or 49.7-49.9 lap @ Daytona

FORD
1970 Ford Mustang Trans-Cammer (Ford-Ford Motors Co.)

CHRYSLER
1970 Plymouth Superbird (Plymouth-Chrysler)
1970 Dodge Charger 440 R/T (Dodge-Chrysler)

GMC
1971 Chevrolet Chevelle 454 ss (Chevrolet-GMC)


Division II - Winston West / Late Model Sportsman / Grand American (Div. II Stock Cars Championship) SPECS: 1400kg 190mph or 50.2-50.3 lap @ Daytona

FORD
1970 Ford Mustang Trans-Cammer (Ford-Ford Motors Co.) (Winston West)
1971 Ford Mustang Mach 1 (Ford Mustang-Ford Motors Co.) (Grand American)
1967 Mercury Cougar XR-7 (Mercury/Ford-Ford Motors Co.) (Grand American & Late Model Sportsman)

GMC
1971 Chevrolet Chevelle 454 SS (Chevrolet-GMC) (Winston West)
1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS (Chevrolet-GMC) (Winston West)
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 (Chevrolet Camaro-GMC) (Grand American)
1964 Pontiac Tempest Le Mans GTO (Pontiac-GMC) (Late Model Sportsman)

CHRYSLER
1971 Charger Super Bee 426 Hemi (Dodge-Chrysler) (Winston West)
1971 Plymouth Cuda 440 Six Pack (Plymouth-Chrysler) (Winston West)
1970 Dodge Challenger R/T (Dodge-Chrysler) (Grand American & Late Model Sportsman)


EXPLAINATION OF CAR REGISTRATION

Driver's are to pick a Division and pick a make.

If you are in Division I you will be driving one car all series if you are in a Ford or a Chevy. If you are Div. I Chrysler you can switch between the Dodge and the Plymouth.

For Division II drivers you pick a make. Now each Make is a little unique. If are with Chrysler you will have the choice between Plymouth or Dodge for the Winston West Series and only the Challenger for the Late Model Sportsman & Grand American Series'. GMC drivers will have their choice between the Chevelle or Camaro SS in Winston West, a Pontiac GTO in Late Model Sportsman & a Camaro Z/28 in Grand American. GMC has the greatest selection in Div. II. Ford drivers in Div. II will have the Mustang Trans-Cammer in Winston West, a choice between the Mercury Cougar or Mustang Mach 1 in Grand American and only the Mercury Cougar in Late Model Sportsman.

Division I cars have more Top Speed and Torque (slightly faster on straights). They also carry the heaviest engines. Division II cars have greater acceleration and less Horse-Power. Division I is meant for a Cup Driver who is looking to master their car on all circuits, fight for Cup Points and race hard for their make. Division II drivers are a little more accomplished, needing to know three disciplines. Division II will be fun for the experienced and difficult for the novice drivers.

Division II doesn't have any drawbacks to it (slightly faster in corners). All cars in this series are spec'd at 1400kg. So handling will truely depend on the car's individual tendencies. And Top End Speed has been reduced a little from it's Cup Car counter-part to ensure better handling for all drivers of skill level.

TomMcD

So, do the 2nd tier races run as support races separate to the main series or do they run multi class? I didn't think multi-class and NASCAR particularly mixed so I thought I'd understood it wrong.

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They run the same race together. Division 1 is for a driver who wants to fine tune one "Cup Car" for all 9 races. Division II is for drivers who like a challenge of tuning multiple cars over the course of the series (Div. II is meant for a Muscle-Head & Div. I is for a strong competitor).

NASCAR did do mixed racing in 1968-1972, not all races were mixed, maybe ten were in a season. Only one driver can win a race, so some races will have Winston Cup winners and some will not. Instead they may be won by a Grand Am driver. If a Grand Am driver wins, they get first place points. And if a Winston Cup driver comes in second to the Grand Am driver, they would receive only 2nd place points. They did do that in 1968-1972. This lead to controversial wins, as you might suspect.

I will be racing in Div.II; All interested drivers are to select a division and a make. Division II drivers will be driving various cars for their make only.

The Superbird needs more power.

Like I said dude, awesome stuff but times are no good for me unfortunately. Good luck 👍

MustangRyan

The Superbird needs more power.

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They will get more

TomMcD

Like I said dude, awesome stuff but times are no good for me unfortunately. Good luck 👍

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Thanks Tom, I don't think I could work anything around to make this Euro-Friendly unfortunately. I think the start time would be 3 a.m. in your time-zone.

what day would this be on?

rustyMercedes

what day would this be on?

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Launch is still not ready yet. But I would like to do Tuesday. Also, I am open for Monday thru Thursday. We will decide which day once we get more drivers. It will however be at 8pm cdt regardless of which day it is.

Which make and division are thinking of going for?

well I've had my eye on that Chevelle so I may do winston cup but I also like the GTO so I may do the General Motors division II cars, don't know yet, I would do the Ford division II as well so I'll have to check out the cars and narrow down my decision.

Everything looks good man 👍

rustyMercedes

well I've had my eye on that Chevelle so I may do winston cup but I also like the GTO so I may do the General Motors division II cars, don't know yet, I would do the Ford division II as well so I'll have to check out the cars and narrow down my decision.

Everything looks good man 👍

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All the cars are fairly equal in terms of Top Speed & Lap Times. I did some Open Lobby Testing the other night with a few guys and the cars were real competitive. The biggest difference I noticed were each cars difference in handling. Also I think the added little bit of ballast can be used to your advantage with some of their handling characteristics.

Overall with the heavy front end of these cars and the Sports Soft Tires, they become a whale in the corners. It takes a lot to make them turn, kinda like steering the Titanic around Daytona lol. This is fun though, more realistic. You have to hold your line and can't push too hard and deep. You need to let off a little to avoid accidents. So skill and patience is needed.

I still need to test all the cars at Daytona in an Open Lobby and record the Lap times & Top Speeds. And make any final adjustments from there. Once that data is recorded and cars have gone through their final tweaks in specs then I can move forward.

I will then test select cars at select tracks to gather data on lap times and top speeds. Once that has all been done, practice sessions will start in the weeks prior leading up till this series launch. Hopefully we get more Interest in this series before then.

I am also monitoring tire wear. Tire Wear will be on at Daytona, Indy, Motegi & Leige custom Gravel Course (Illinois State Fairgrounds) only if I think the tires don't degrade too far. I don't mind having a pit stop mid-race.

But since we are doing 30 minute races, I would prefer one pit stop rather than two. If I see two stops becoming an issue, than Tire Wear will be OFF at that track. And a mandatory pit stop may be issued. Or may not, depending on number of laps raced and when the competition caution is held.

Changed Series Title, now an official sub-league of GTP NASCAR Association https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7402082#post7402082