H2O Cooling Build Log (Retiring) 4-way SLI - Successful

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Thanks to this wonderful forum and the enthuseastic members here, I have water cooled and overclocked just about everything I can get my hands on lately. Dude to a small series of unfortuneate events, my 780i FTW board is no longer functioning. Now at this point I can either replace that board or build a new system. What can I say, if I'm going through all the work for outfitting a new motherboard, it might as well be for a i7 system right? :D


What the final system will consist of is:
  • Asus Rampage II mobo
  • 965EE
  • Corsair 1833 2x3gb Dominator Ram w/ fan.
  • PC Power and Cooling 1200w Single 12v Rail PSU
  • BFG GTX280 [Tri-SLI]
  • 2x150g Raptor Drive SATA Raid0
  • 500g WD storage Drive SATA
  • Optical Drive
  • Cosmos Customized Case
  • Simple Fan controller for Rad's
Loop 1 - 120.3 Swiftech Rad + MCP355 with Acrylic Top. 1/2" Fittings for Graphics Cards.

Loop 2 - 120.3 Swiftech Rad + Swiftech GTZ block w/ Adapter, Koolance NB/SB block, MCP355 with Acrylic top. 1/2" Fittings




This thread has been hijacked by a water cooling build log as a result of the heat generated by 3-way SLI configuration.

Build log pictures HERE.


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Hanns·G HG-281DPB Black 28" 3ms Widescreen LCD HDMI Monitor 500 cd/m2 800:1 Built in Speakers
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With VGA and HDMI, I have my computer and PS3 hooked up. I'll be getting a HDMI switch soon to make switching between the PC and the PS3 easier. At a full resolution of 1920x1200, this monitor looks fantastic. The only major complaint the is the LCD "X" that can be seen during darker sections of game play. This shouldn't surprise me as every LCD monitor I've owned seem to have this.

As a precursor to the monitor, I built a new gaming rig:

*Intel E6850 Core 2 Duo 3.0 GHZ 4mb Cache, 1333FSB
*2gb OCZ Reaper Ram, @1066ghz stable.
*150gb Raptor Drive
*eVGA 680i Mobo (supports 3 PCI-E 16x graphics cars :embarrassed:), 1333FSB supported.
*Dual BFG OC 8800GTX 768mb Graphics cards in SLI
*1000w OZ PSU, support for up to 72 amps of delivered power!!!
*Vista Ultimate (DirectX 10 fully supported)




What can I say, this machine is a beast. By far the fast machine I've seen to date (then again, I don't get out much). In short, I'm running Crysis at 1920x1200 full everything averaging 25 FPS. Still waiting for EA to release the patch that is supposed to speed things up on this game. Booting takes seconds and seems to handle sleep mode the way it's supposed to (thanking Vista for that).

I built this machine as a hard core gaming rig, with plans on adding another Raptor drive in the near future. Cooling is an issue with this machine. The processor, ram, and especially the dual 8800 GTX video cards creates a tremendous amount of heat. Not that it's related, but I ended up frying a stick of ram a week after the build. Perhaps it was faulty, not sure....but it was covered and I have new ram installed now and it's running better than ever. We ran a benchmark yesterday for 6 hours without one crash. Added another fan to the case to try and suck some of that nasty heat out...., we'll see how effective it is. I may have to look to burnout on some suggestions for a liquid cooled system if I can't seem to get it to cool down. Right now nothing is over-clocked. Using nVidia's nTune software, I had the ram over 1200mhz, but have sense dropped it back down to 1066 stock. The Front Side Bus us running a stable 1333 and the video cards are also running stock clock speeds. My main reason for building this rig was for Crysis and Farcry 2. If the patch doesn't help, I may have to start tweaking to get it overclocked to help achieve an average of 45 fps which would be very nice for that game...., 60 would be ideal, but I could live with 45.

Just for a little fun, the case has built-in speakers that makes an engine starting sound when you first turn on the PC. It's a fun little novelty the first time or two turning it one, I have sense turned it down to not hear it.

Enabling and disabling SLI has also gotten easier. Back in the old days, you had to manually install or remove the SLI bridge for the different modes but it can now be changed using software, namely the nVidia display control panel.
 
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Awesome. 👍

What size case is that? It looks rather small. Could that be your overheating problem, or do you think you need a fan to blow cool air in there?

Why no sound card? I guess gaming PCs don't need one? I'd need one for recording guitar tracks, wouldn't I? I don't have one now and you can tell my recordings sound, meh.

I want something like this, but I don't need two video cards. One is more than enough, since I don't game. But, I'm waiting for HTCP, BDRs, HDMI video cards and a few other fun HDTV things.

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Awesome. 👍

What size case is that? It looks rather small. Could that be your overheating problem, or do you think you need a fan to blow cool air in there?

Why no sound card? I guess gaming PCs don't need one? I'd need one for recording guitar tracks, wouldn't I? I don't have one now and you can tell my recordings sound, meh.

I want something like this, but I don't need two video cards. One is more than enough, since I don't game. But, I'm waiting for HTCP, BDRs, HDMI video cards and a few other fun HDTV things.

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I'm using on board audio, which surprisingly would be adequate to record some single tracks with and offers 7.1 HD audio at 192k specs. Not too shabby for on board audio. It also overs SPDIF and Optical output!

The case really isn't that small. Consider that the video cards are about 10" long, it gives some size perspective. In all honesty, I'm not too impressed with the case. Originally I was going to put my existing hardware in this case, and put all the new hardware in my old Antec P-170 case which is far superior to this one. If heat becomes an issue, I may still do that.

A graphics card with HDMI out really isn't necessary any more. You can get DVI to HDMI adapters, or for that matter, the monitor listed above came with a 6' DVI to HDMI cable for DVI PC to HDMI TV hookup. For a home theater PC, I would probably go a different route for sure. For instance, I wouldn't 3 Graphics Cards inputs, PCI inputs for HD tuner cards, audio cards, etc would be more important to me. Also, more Hard Drive space would be a must. I wouldn't need to get that crazy with the power supply, or ram either, although the system specs out nicely multiple streaming applications. For recording, a peripheral like the Digi002 going hooked up via Firewire is a sure way to go. Comes with 4 mic preamps and an additional 4+db inputs. Also supports lightpipe in for an additional 8 tracks with an outboard preamp that has lightpipe out (Digimax, Focusrite Octopre). The rack mount version has come down quite a bit since they first came out.

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So, those HDMI/DVI adapters work good? I never completely trust adapters.

OK, so now video cards with HDMI. Sounds silly, but oh well.

I figured the onboard sound cards are good enough for recordings, these days. The motherboard I have doesn't have a good one, so I was wondering if I needed one for better guitar recordings. I guess I don't.
 
I've never tried the dvi/hdmi adapters, but I will have my PC hooked up to the monitor with the DVI/HDMI cable. For what it's worth, I've seen video cards with HDMI output, not sure if it just carries the video and no audio, of if there's a header on the card for the digital audio as well.... I hate adapters to, just one more connection to go bad, but have more trust in the cables that have the correct ends. For single track recordings, I don't know why on-board audio wouldn't work given a reliable source, what gets so picky with sound cards/onboard audio chipsets alike, is the lack of preamp options. You have to have your signal just perfect going in or it's garbage coming out.
 
I noticed your recordings are more dynamic than mine, and I have a decent mic pre-amp/audio converter. Also, my CDs aren't very dynamic on my HDD. I've received songs from others who put their CD songs on their own HDD and sent me a song that sounds better than what I have.

I always thought it was a lousy CD driver. Now, it sounds like a bad (cheap) onboard sound card.
 
You're using the stock CPU cooler?! I wouldn't OC the processor without changing that. Nice rig!
The C2D line actually has a fairly established history of successful overclocks to around 3.4 with stock cooling on certain steppings and models.
 
The C2D line actually has a fairly established history of successful overclocks to around 3.4 with stock cooling on certain steppings and models.
After market Heatsinks are cheap enough and Pako already said He is dealing with heat. I would think a good air cooler would work better than jumping into water cooling. Although those 2 video cards are pumping out a ton of heat all by themselves.
 
I'll get all that and better at half the price in a year :P J/K. System looks great dude!

Jerome
 
I'll get all that and better at half the price in a year :P J/K. System looks great dude!

Jerome
Ain't that the truth. I seem to get 2-3 years out of my systems before I hand them down to my wife or kid(s) so it works out I guess.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106061

Looks like a beast, pushes a ton of air, but it might not fit, might hit you optical drives
Yeah, it's hard buying online without knowing if it will fit or not. The Thermalright does say it's compatible with my mobo, with the only drawback being that I have to remove the motherboard to mount the back plate for the HSF.

I'll guess I should wait and see how much I need the extra computing power before I go this route.
 
Yeah, it's hard buying online without knowing if it will fit or not. The Thermalright does say it's compatible with my mobo, with the only drawback being that I have to remove the motherboard to mount the back plate for the HSF.

I'll guess I should wait and see how much I need the extra computing power before I go this route.

*The point where Burnout will recommend watercooling*

Nice rig, as usual Pako. 👍
 
Hey I've never had fittment issues with waterblocks. :sly:

:lol: It took you long enough!

Now I'm not saying I will, but if I did, what would I be looking at without getting a new liquid cooled ready mobo, vcards, etc...?
 
Pako, I run a Tuniq Tower 120 HSF on my E6600. It ran plenty cool at 3.1Ghz.


And that PC...damn. You'd probably need a Koolance 1200W liquid cooled PSU if you went triple 8800GTX. :lol:
 
I actually tried a different HSF for the CPU yesterday but it was too big, it actually was touching the motherboards heat sink, which I am told can cause some weird frequencies, or transference from the cpu to the mobo and visa versa.

Here's what I tried to put in:
http://www.coolermaster.com/products/product.php?act=detail&tbcate=1&id=3096

It was just a tad too big.

In reading some reviews, the Termalright Ultra-120 seems like a good product to try out.
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Thats the best Air cooler on the market right now but its huge. I've thought of buying it many times but went with the Thermaltake V1.
 
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