Supercar Challenge Help

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The Supercar Challenge is the last Professional Event I need to knock out before the Championship. However, with the sports tire requirement, my Ford GT is practically undriveable, making the races nearly impossible. I don't want to turn driving aids on, so I can't win. B-Spec Bob always comes in last as well, because he can only win 1 point races.

My question: Which car should I use for the Supercar challenge that can brake fairly well with Sports tires, but can still compete with the likes of the Nardo and the GT?
 
The Ford GT should be more than capable of competing in the Supercar Challenge. It's probably one of the faster cars you can use in this event, and IMO it's overkill. Just brake earlier and get on the power earlier.
 
An M5 on S2 or S3 tires with a bit of work done should make you rather happy (while being overkill, stockers CAN do this). I've run them at full power on N3 tires and had it at least driveable before.
 
slowman
The Ford GT should be more than capable of competing in the Supercar Challenge. It's probably one of the faster cars you can use in this event, and IMO it's overkill. Just brake earlier and get on the power earlier.
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Yes, that's all correct, but for someone who evidently doesn't have experience driving very fast cars like these, such advice isn't particularly helpful. When you aren't used to braking early, just having someone tell you to brake earlier won't be of much use. Lamrock, I suggest that you take the GT to any of the tracks in the Supercar Challenge and run laps with it, experimenting with different braking points and lines and trying to get the best lap time you can. I bet that if you take that seriously, you can blow the AI away in the race.
 
Well,this car doesn't brake well but,I used a fully tuned(not real tuning) 2000 Pagani Zonda C12S. I did it with that car and I nearly beat a Cien but was let down by tires so I put hards on (I think and this is sport tires) and watch out for Midfield,the first corner you well fly!!! so try your brakes!!! And I'm nine.
 
Austin343
Yes, that's all correct, but for someone who evidently doesn't have experience driving very fast cars like these, such advice isn't particularly helpful. When you aren't used to braking early, just having someone tell you to brake earlier won't be of much use. Lamrock, I suggest that you take the GT to any of the tracks in the Supercar Challenge and run laps with it, experimenting with different braking points and lines and trying to get the best lap time you can. I bet that if you take that seriously, you can blow the AI away in the race.
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I'm here to just second exactly what Austin343 has said, the Ford GT is definitely the right car for the championship, and if I recall correctly, I used it myself to complete these races. However, if you don't have much experience in the faster cars with the Sports tires, drop back to arcade mode, and try a few races with different levels of AI, trying with the aids on and off, and see what suits you. It also helps that you have to use Sports tires when running the GT in arcade mode, so you'll get used to the feel of the car. 👍
 
Lamrock
The Supercar Challenge is the last Professional Event I need to knock out before the Championship. However, with the sports tire requirement, my Ford GT is practically undriveable, making the races nearly impossible. I don't want to turn driving aids on, so I can't win. B-Spec Bob always comes in last as well, because he can only win 1 point races.

My question: Which car should I use for the Supercar challenge that can brake fairly well with Sports tires, but can still compete with the likes of the Nardo and the GT?
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Lamrock, I'm not sure how much money you have or the number of cars available to you, but if you are just trying to win this event a number or cars come to mind:

A BMW M3 GTR '03 with a bit of upgrades does very well and handles nicely. A slightly more interesting choice would be a Callaway C12 with some extra horsepower and some weight reductions (the Callaway is a little tail happy under power because it has a lot of torque, but otherwise does well). If you really want to smack the competition, either the Pagani Zonda C12S or the Pagani Zonda C12S 7.3 with upgrades would dominate. I have not driven a BMW M5 in this series, but like Rotary Junkie says, I suspect that with a weight reduction, the M5 would do quite nicely.

You mention that you are driving with the aids on zero. I recommend that you set them to 1,1,1 or even 2,2,2 for cars like these with so much power when you are running on sport tires (until you get used to them).

Thinking outside the box, I just tried a Spyker C8 Laviolette '02 at Fuji '90 in the Supercar Festival and was able to easily beat the field. I was actually able to catch the last place car (a Proto Motors Spirra 4.6 V8) before it crossed the finish line on lap six. I purchased a number of upgrades for my Spyker so my Laviolette had 543HP and weighted 1005kg. I purchased the Stage 2 NA tune, a sports exhaust, a racing chip and had the dealer perform a "port polish" and a stage 1 weight reduction. I ran on S3 tires and had racing brakes, supspension and transmission. Of course this doesn't give you many A-spec points.:grumpy:

Best of luck.

GTsail290
 
Thanks for the help everybody. I'm not sure I would classify the GT as overkill, seeing as how it is always one of the contestants and usually finishes in the middle of the pack. Granted, the CPU cars are pretty poor drivers.

Anyway, I managed to win all the races except for New York. I always lose my leads on the corners, and the car constantly redlines/spins in first gear. B-Spec Bob fares even worse, losing by a full minute on average.
 
Don't go down to first gear, then. Stay in second or even third. Brake early, coast to the apexes a little, and squeeze the power on.
 
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Lamrock
I always lose my leads on the corners, and the car constantly redlines/spins in first gear. B-Spec Bob fares even worse, losing by a full minute on average.
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Are you using auto or manual gears? If you're using auto drop it and learn to use manual gears as you can use higher gears to help remove wheelspin by changing up sooner. Also if you are using a DS2 pad the buttons are pressure sensitive but it does take a little while to adjust. I'd never go back now though to auto gears as manual will give you much better control of your car.

As with most things putting time aside to practice the above will help you a lot in the long run especially if you start chasing 200 A-spec points and passing License tests at Gold level. :)
 
Duke
Don't go down to first gear, then.
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Solid advice right here. 👍
Staying in second and moderating acceleration until 3rd gear is the best way to handle Supercars with no driving aids on. You only really need 1st gear when starting from a standstill (or getting out of the grass/sand etc!).
 
Lamrock
Thanks for the help everybody. I'm not sure I would classify the GT as overkill, seeing as how it is always one of the contestants and usually finishes in the middle of the pack. Granted, the CPU cars are pretty poor drivers.

Anyway, I managed to win all the races except for New York. I always lose my leads on the corners, and the car constantly redlines/spins in first gear. B-Spec Bob fares even worse, losing by a full minute on average.
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I know what you mean, B-spec Bob has trouble at New York (especially the 90 degree right hand turn). My B-spec Bob almost always stuffs himself into the armco at this turn and loses 2 seconds each lap. B-spec Bob also has trouble at Le Sarthe in the Mulsanne Corner and at Fuji in turn one.

Even my tuned Spyker C8 Laviolette has trouble in B-spec mode at New York in the Supercar Festival. Bob was able to win against two different fields (2 seconds over the Cadillac Cien '02, and then 6 seconds over the Audi Nuvolari quattro '03), but lost when a Pagani Zonda C12S 7.3 '02 showed up.

GTsail290
 
Lamrock, I really think there's no way that Bob could be losing by that amount if you're using him correctly. My guess is that you have it set on pace 5, which is very counterproductive because it overdrives every corner and either crashes or takes a "fast in, slow out" line. You may also be forgetting to turn Overtake on, making Bob get stuck behind the slowest car. I'm glad you could win, but it sounds like you still have a lot of room for improvement in driving supercars, and I urge you to practice in Arcade Mode Time Trial. You'll improve hugely in very little time.
 
I guess I did sort of come in here, reply quick, and not offer any real solutions. :( Sorry about that Lamrock.

I would suggest getting used to the manual transmission first and foremost. I would practice by yourself on a technical track that is easy to remember such as Deep Forest or Trial Mountain. Take it slow at first and then gradually speed up. I would also recommend turning on the ghost so you can run with him and see where you were faster or slower. Trying to beat your own ghost is one of the best ways to become very good at a particular track.

Good luck. :)
 
I use Manual transmission, and will try just doing it in second and third. And I always have Bob set at 3-Overtake, unless he is winning, yet he still crashes about 20 times a lap on NY. :P

Its too bad you can only qualify in championship races, but I'll put in some practice, trying to not use gears 2 and 3 and hope for the best. Thanks for all the input everybody. Much appreciated.
 
If I remember correctly, I won using the Saleen. I tried the GT and many others. I got so frustrated trying to ramp up the HP to overtake the AI on BSpec. But Bob sucks on NY reverse IMHO. He kept slamming into the walls on the 90 degree turns that I just went over to arcade like Austin343 mentioned and practiced for awhile. I think I was in first after lap 1 or 2?

Might go back over there if I get the chance to try it with reduced HP. I'm a much improved driver now. That was at least 7-8 mos ago. Same with Infineon Sports. Did it initially BSpec. Should be a breeze after all the time I put in during the current GTPLMS and Nascar, GT4 style.
 
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I remember trying to use the SLR for this..but the car was pretty useless with sports tyres, and it took forever to stop the car. WHich is why i switched over to the Saleen.
 
Useless with sports tyres? Most definitely not. One of the fastest car on sports I've ever driven in the game.



Try that one and you'll see that it's far from hopeless. Average lap times kill those of a stock Ford GT by approximately five seconds and you probably won't deny the GT being fast.
 
Lamrock
I use Manual transmission, and will try just doing it in second and third. And I always have Bob set at 3-Overtake, unless he is winning, yet he still crashes about 20 times a lap on NY. :P

Its too bad you can only qualify in championship races, but I'll put in some practice, trying to not use gears 2 and 3 and hope for the best. Thanks for all the input everybody. Much appreciated.
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Lamrock, if you are still trying to win at New York in your Ford GT '05, I would suggest going to your Ford dealer and adding the following upgrades:

A sports exhaust, a sport racing chip, racing brakes, a brake controller set at 18/15, semi-racing suspension set with springs at 8.9/9.4, ride height at 92, shocks at 6/5, camber at 1.0/0.5, a custom transmission with the Auto on 4, a twin-plate clutch, a semi-racing flywheel, set the driving aids to 2,2,2, buy a wing and set the downforce to 19/41, and purchase the 2-way Ltd slip diff., use zero ballast, but set the balance to -5 (which puts a little more weight to the front of the car), have the Ford dealer perform the "port polish" on the engine and have them do the "engine balancing" and finally do all three stages of weight reduction. You can buy the stage 1 NA tune as well, but since this only increases horsepower by six, it is not really necessary. After all these changes your Ford GT should have about 593HP and weight 1276kg. Put S3 tires on your Ford GT and take it to New York in the Supercar Festival and you should be able to win in both B-spec mode and with a little practice in A-spec. In A-spec mode, stay out of first gear.

In B-spec mode, you should be able to win by 2 to 6 seconds over everyone except maybe the Zonda C12S 7.3, so select a different lineup if the Zonda shows up. As you know, New York is a tough course in B-spec mode, so the tricks that I have learned are that you should use pace 4 to accelerate past each car but then throttle back to pace 3 for the next corner. The exception to this is the 90 degree right turn where you should throttle back to pace 1 about half way down the straight. The exception to this is if you are following a car or just catching up to a car on this straight before the 90 degree right turn. If you are in this situation, I turn off the overtake mode so your car will slow down and follow the car in front (you can leave the pace setting at either 2 or 3 in this situation). This will usually mean that the car in front will smack the wall and you will slide past quite easily, without smacking the wall yourself.:) And then be sure to turn on the overtake mode again.

Good luck

GTsail290
 
I was disappointed by these races. 👎 I remember thinking they didn't seem challenging enough. :(
 
Parnelli Bone
I was disappointed by these races. 👎 I remember thinking they didn't seem challenging enough. :(
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What car did you use for this championship, and how many A-spec points did you get? Tune up a car to get above the horsepower limit, then de-tune it before the race - makes for some exciting racing. :) 👍
 
I used a BMW M5 with LW1, race suspension, a chip, and NA1 tuning on S3 tires. At New York I beat the Zonda C12S by just under 3 seconds, but I got low double-digit A-spec points. Not that I really care(d) about A-spec points since they are so wildly arbitrary in some cases.
 
Meh, The only problem I remember when useing the Ford GT is the rear end always slides out alot. No matter what tires the Car has serious grip issues on the back end thats for sure.
 
Greycap
Useless with sports tyres? Most definitely not. One of the fastest car on sports I've ever driven in the game.



Try that one and you'll see that it's far from hopeless. Average lap times kill those of a stock Ford GT by approximately five seconds and you probably won't deny the GT being fast.
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Thanks. I forgot to mention that i raced using the stock settings. I normally only tune the car, settings, etc for enduro races. :)
 
Parnelli Bone
I was disappointed by these races. 👎 I remember thinking they didn't seem challenging enough. :(
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Many members have said it before, and I will say it again. It's kinda pointless to race with the AI, because the skill stays the same level, whether be driving low powered or really fast cars (Supercars in this case). I hope GT5 changes that. It would make for a whole better game. 👍

Duke
Not that I really care(d) about A-spec points since they are so wildly arbitrary in some cases.
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One of the two reasons I never bothered to get all the A-Spec points, the other one being I lack the patience to do so. :lol:
 
Same here I used the BMW M5 but modified it to include a racing clutch, racing flywheel, stage 1 NA, racing brakes, brakes controller, propeller shaft, racing exhaust and racing chip for 200 A-spec points up against the following:

VW Nardo Concept
Cadillac Cien
Ford GT
Tommy Kaira ZZ-II
Mclaren Mercedes SLR

It is a tough field but is manageable and you need to make the time up in the corners. It handles pretty well but has a touch of oversteer if you brake too hard. A stock M5 will do fine in this event but not really up against this field.

The reason why people struggle in this event is because they are used to lower bhp cars and then they have to make the jump to something that is 500bhp+. I would recommend you practice some laps with the car you want to use around the tracks in the Supercar Festival and then try your luck at it. If you cannot control a 500bhp properly and you lost time, then you are not ready yet as simple as that. But much learn to brake properly and use the brakes efficient to make up time on the AI, drive smoothly, do not lock the tyres with too much hard braking and you will be fine.

Remember you cannot use race cars, tuning cars or concept/prototype cars (with the exception of the NSX-R LM Prototype Road Car)

You should have tried to use the search engine before posting this thread up as there were a number of threads already discussing the Supercar Festival on here. Some are listed below if you need more help:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=60024
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=76238
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=58425
 
Won the race fairly handily, after some practice and never shifting down to first; Thanks for all your help.

Follow up question: In the races without rolling start, my car redlines and loses a couple seconds out of the starting gates. I think I am doing something wrong during the countdown. Can anyone shed some light on this?
 

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