1997 Jeep Cherokee...?

I must say that I admit to being jealous if you have a mostly-stock Cherokee that can outrun GMC Typhoons.


It's far from stock bud. FAR. Gets about 8 miles to every gallon and that's about all I'm going to say. This truck makes me a LOT of money. I tone it down with the kelly's for winter. Strokers go a long way with these.

Future plans are to scrap the swiss cheese body and build a slammed rod out of the entire drivetrain. It's time to retire it's mudding days. There ain't a whole lot of four wheeling rat rods out there :sly:
 
If you're ever in the area I'd be more than happy to race whatever you have. How's 100 bucks sound? Should sound like an easy hundred for you since this isn't fast at all.
 
Since its so fast you run it at the strip all the time, right?


Think you'd beat a 4spd LS1 GTO?
 
There is no way that runs a 14 second 1/4 mile. Even with the stroker, it can't be making over 240hp, and with all the drive train losses and everything, and its weight being higher than an E36 M3's, there is just no way it is as fast. And that isn't even looking at gearing or the absurdly large tires in comparison.

Otherwise, post up a slip. Winning from a stop light doing a full 1/4 mile are also way different.
 
Since its so fast you run it at the strip all the time, right?




Think you'd beat a 4spd LS1 GTO?

Lol, strip... Depends on what the LS1 has going for it.

it can't be making over 240hp

Yeah, there's no possible way. You're absolutely right.

its weight being higher than an E36 M3's, there is just no way it is as fast.

The stock curb weight of these XJ's are about 500 lbs heavier than the E36. Ooooooohhhhhh so heavy, it's like a tank. I have friends that weigh more than that. 500 pounds wasn't hard to shed.

And that isn't even looking at gearing or the absurdly large tires in comparison.

Here, I'll pull apart the diff for you so you can measure.

Otherwise, post up a slip.

Yeah, because I'm going to drive 300 miles to the nearest strip and clock it for you. Your approval is so important to me.

Winning from a stop light doing a full 1/4 mile are also way different.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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This car right here does 11.5

Prove me wrong. Looks can be deceiving, so resist temptation to argue with the big boys.
 
You can't say this:
I haven't clocked her but she'll do at least a 14 second quarter as is.
...and then say this:
Yeah, because I'm going to drive 300 miles to the nearest strip and clock it for you. Your approval is so important to me.

I, too, am extremely skeptical. 14.0 at the strip is a damn quick car...somewhere between a stock 350Z and E46 M3...and is 3-4 seconds faster than what your Jeep will run stock. If you've put all that time and money into it, why wouldn't you want to drive 300 miles to see what she'll do?
 
Yes, I can. I know what 14 seconds feels like. I didn't write it in stone. It could do 15's on a cold day, or with the tools under the hatch. Who cares?


I, too, am extremely skeptical. 14.0 at the strip is a damn quick car...somewhere between a stock 350Z and E46 M3. If you've put all that time and money into it, why wouldn't you want to drive 300 miles to see what she'll do?

Because I don't care about the numbers... It's not about "HURRDURR LOOK AT MY NUMBERS!!!111one"

It's about the work, and the drive. Those numbers are what's killing this sport. It used to be fun, now all anyone cares about is shaving off that extra thousandth of a second by taking a dump before the stage.

Boring in my opinion.
 
The stock curb weight of these XJ's are about 500 lbs heavier than the E36. Ooooooohhhhhh so heavy, it's like a tank. I have friends that weigh more than that. 500 pounds wasn't hard to shed.

500 pounds not hard to shed? Did you fully strip the interior and gut all the sound deadening, pull the spare, have power nothing, and removed any accessories? Because now it just looks like you are making numbers up.
 
It is theoretically possible to do a 14.xx quarter mile given the claimed horsepower and going by the stock Cherokee's weight of 3,479lbs. However, with a 200lb driver, fuel (20 gallons, 166lbs), a lift kit and bigger tires and you are talking a serious amount of weight added. Not to mention the performance parts and all the crap one keeps in their vehicle. So you're probably around 4,200lbs in weight and that puts you theoretically into the 15's.

This is all assuming the best possible conditions too and that your tires don't spin (which they will because they are useless on pavement). You also have extreme squat to deal with considering the raised suspension, axle wrap, and a worse aerodynamic coefficient.

And I'm guessing you must be a Yooper, people don't street race Jeep's in the part of Michigan where we speak correctly. :lol:
 
And I'm guessing you must be a Yooper, people don't street race Jeep's in the part of Michigan where we speak correctly. :lol:

I was going to say something about that, then I realized what I saw happened in Redford. Never mind. :lol:
 
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This car right here does 11.5

Prove me wrong. Looks can be deceiving, so resist temptation to argue with the big boys.

And?

I have a crappy backyard built yet fast turbo FWD too.


What does this have to do with your (slow, no-forced-induction) Jeep?

If you actually lived anywhere near driving distance I'd run you.
 
500 pounds not hard to shed? Did you fully strip the interior and gut all the sound deadening, pull the spare, have power nothing, and removed any accessories? Because now it just looks like you are making numbers up.

Now it looks like you're just being a jagoff. It isn't hard to simply look in my door jam and read it's weight, then look up the weight of the aformentioned BMW. Oh wait, I removed the little aluminum plate with all that info, it was too much weight. Now it should do nines.

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It is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

It is theoretically possible to do a 14.xx quarter mile given the claimed horsepower and going by the stock Cherokee's weight of 3,479lbs. However, with a 200lb driver, fuel (20 gallons, 166lbs), a lift kit and bigger tires and you are talking a serious amount of weight added. Not to mention the performance parts and all the crap one keeps in their vehicle. So you're probably around 4,200lbs in weight and that puts you theoretically into the 15's.

This is all assuming the best possible conditions too and that your tires don't spin (which they will because they are useless on pavement). You also have extreme squat to deal with considering the raised suspension, axle wrap, and a worse aerodynamic coefficient.

And I'm guessing you must be a Yooper, people don't street race Jeep's in the part of Michigan where we speak correctly. :lol:

I've removed the entire interior aside from driver and passenger seats and run on less than a quarter tank. You're trying to tell me I've tacked on 700 pounds with a lift and tires? Performance parts don't necessarily add weight. Lol... Maybe if I added another engine then it would be of concern.

And these tires are very useful on tarmac... They sent a blown 350 r700 cherokee down for a 10 second quarter, I'll see if I can find that video.

Again, I wasn't insisting upon 14. It was simply an educated guess. I don't understand the need to pick it apart.



You did hit the nail right on the head on one thing... I do live in the UP unfortunately, but I'm from Chicago. :lol: I refuse to pick up the accent here seeing as long drawn ooooout words annoy me. Eh?
 
Performance parts don't necessarily add weight.
True. But I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that the type of performance parts that one would equip to a vehicle to enhance off-road ability aren't the type of performance parts that one would equip to a vehicle to decrease weight.

Again, I wasn't insisting upon 14. It was simply an educated guess. I don't understand the need to pick it apart.
Probably has something to do with how you keep claiming that you "don't care about numbers" while at the same time repeatedly insisting that it is capable of those numbers and how we are uneducated fools for disagreeing.
 
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