Restrict cars yourself...

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I'm not the best racer, but I'm not terrible. I used to be. How did I get from terrible to un-terrible?

I don't unnecessarily tune the hell out of my cars.

I have read people complain about the lack of tuning restrictions in the latest seasonal events. The solution is simple, buy the stock car, don't tune it, and try the race.

Maybe you'll lose. That's ok; it's a part of racing. When your car is a little slow and your tires are crap, you get to know track (and the car) intimately. If you try the race twice and it is obvious that you need to tune, do some moderate tuning. Maybe an engine chip, a sport muffler, a sprinkle of turbo.

The point is the game is much more fun when you moderate yourself! Don't go tuning your car so that it has more horsepower than a civil war calvary unit and tires that are softer than a silk bag full of puppy ears. Go bit by bit. You'll become a better driver and the game won't be as bad as you make it out to be.
 
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Agree. I remember I went crazy tuning my first cars, but realized that it wasn't much of a game if I was winning without even trying. So I took off as much mods as I could and did the races again (and in one case bought a new car because the engine mods that were un-undoable were just too strong) and actually had some fun fighting for the win.

Now I don't claim to be a good racer or that I win races with stock cars, but at least I've stopped entering the sunday cup with a 700 bhp Ferrari ;o)
 
NO!
This is preposterous!

PD should make winning impossible to 99% of the ones that bought the game in order to appease that 1% that can't be arsed to learn some self restraint.

GT5: the real niche of a niche simulator. 💡
 
I don't know, man... that sounds like a lot of work. Taking an M249 SAW to a knife fight is so much easier than challenging myself to improve my skills, and possibly increasing my enjoyment of the game. I'd much rather baby myself in A-Spec with overpowered cars, and then have a rude awakening online when I find out how horrible I am, when I can't overpower the other cars in rooms with power, weight, and tire restrictions.

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Abriael
NO!
This is preposterous!

PD should make winning impossible to 99% of the ones that bought the game in order to appease that 1% that can't be arsed to learn some self restraint.

GT5: the real niche of a niche simulator. 💡
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I agree this game would be better if it took me 100 attempts of driving a toyota prius around grand valley in order for me to get a gold that doesn't show up anywhere and doesn't count toward game progression.


O wait no it wouldn't.
 
I put craploads of upgrades on my cars and blast past the opposition. But then again, thats because im still kind of doing the amateur races and im sick of having my brilliant exit speed (and overtaking strategy) in an underpowered and challenging car ruined by the AI Braking on the exit of a corner for absoloutely no reason at all.

I did my first high level race last night, the all stars series, and it was brilliantly fun, because the AI Actually drove a decent speed!
 
I'd still like it (A-Spec) better if PD put some thought and testing in the game like they did in GT1, GT2, GT3, and GT4, and make it at least a little bit of a challenge.

What they did in GT5 is just lazy and lame.

Yes I agree w/ OP, but I still think GT5 should be like that w/o me having to impose restrictions on myself. I paid them to figure all that out in the development of GT5. I don't want to have to be the guinea pig in every single A-Spec race just to figure out what mods if any make the race fun and challenging, but still "win-able". They should have already done that through testing. They could just have a difficulty slider or OPTION to run race restriction free for slow people-- but also reward the more difficult way with more Cr.

Not to mention the general lack of A-Spec races compared to GT4.. look at my damn sig. That decrease in content is a disgrace on it's own, not even considering the fact that they left the difficulty balance testing completely out of the game.
 
I agree that giving yourself restrictions is the way to go but as I haven't got the patch which tells you what the hp of the AI cars is, much of the time I can only assume that the AI cars showing on the top of the screen are stock. Now, sometimes they are, other times they aren't but nothing let's me know this, I've just got to buy a car and pray that it will be competitive stock (don't like tuning cars)
 
Yes give me absolutely nothing to aim for bhp wise so i have to guess where to pitch.my car to win the event.

and presume that because I like a challenge that I am incapable of not overturning a car? Where did this train of thought come from?

How about you all learn to play gt and try to get some skills yourself before accusing people of things that make little sense and that are unsubstantial.
 
Under typical opponents prior to entering a race, it will give you the hp of the cars that you'll be racing. And yes, some of them have more hp than the stock car that they're driving. It's easy enough to figure out.
 
What before during or after the race?

Surely its the same tough challenge for everyone if there bhp limits. Like gt2.
 
Sounds great and it's what I do when playing FM3, but with THIS game's AI there's nothing fun about getting rammed off the road by brain-dead AI. I tried it a few times and promptly went and got me some "good" tires , air filters and whatever else can get me miles away from the pack.
 
There's usually a "Rabbit" AI that is faster than the rest which makes tuning even more of a crap shoot.

The HP figures in the typical opponents screen is useless because you never know which cars from that list will actually be in the race or what level of tune they might happen to have even if they do show up in the race.

You can tell by the sound in the race that some have modded exhaust and some don't. Hard to say what other parts they all have.

That's why PD should have balance tested the game for difficulty and adjusted restrictions accordingly. They are the only ones that know what stage tune the opponent cars have, we don't..
 
Sum1s2pid
I don't know, man... that sounds like a lot of work. Taking an M249 SAW to a knife fight is so much easier than challenging myself to improve my skills, and possibly increasing my enjoyment of the game. I'd much rather baby myself in A-Spec with overpowered cars, and then have a rude awakening online when I find out how horrible I am, when I can't overpower the other cars in rooms with power, weight, and tire restrictions.

:lol:
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I was actually quite proud of myself last night coming in 5th out of 10 in a 2 lap race with super cars only on the Nurburgring beating all the dead stock cars and a couple slightly modded ones in a stock 458. Yeah its not a win, but at least the car didn't cost me a half a mil and still not be a race car.
 
shadders84
I'm not the best racer, but I'm not terrible. I used to be. How did I get from terrible to un-terrible?

I don't unnecessarily tune the hell out of my cars.

I have read people complain about the lack of tuning restrictions in the latest seasonal events. The solution is simple, buy the stock car, don't tune it, and try the race.

Maybe you'll lose. That's ok; it's a part of racing. When your car is a little slow and your tires are crap, you get to know track (and the car) intimately. If you try the race twice and it is obvious that you need to tune, do some moderate tuning. Maybe an engine chip, a sport muffler, a sprinkle of turbo.

The point is the game is much more fun when you moderate yourself! Don't go tuning your car so that it has more horsepower than a civil war calvary unit and tires that are softer than a silk bag full of puppy ears. Go bit by bit. You'll become a better driver and the game won't be as bad as you make it out to be.
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I don´t think, that the problem is over-tuning of cars but the computer choice of opponents. I often have a look at the opponent list. But sometimes you choose a car for a race and there are one or two opponent with much stronger cars....or everybody else is under-powered. So you have to quit nd choose another car and maybe the same thing happens.

There wouldn´t be any of that discussions or problems, when PD have had teached their computer to choose opponents after characteristics of the player car.

There shouldn´t be any problem for the computer to check my actual driven car and see what characteristics or tuning parts it has (or even which car it is) and choose some fittable cars.

When my car is stock, the opponents one should be...when mine is over-tuned, the opponents one should also....when I use racing tyres, same for my opponents.
 
it's like playing a football game and make 5 own goals to make it more challenging.. that's not the way of playing, they must put restrictions also because you don't know how tuned will be the cars will race with you, they gave you just the hp.. and the ai it's so fake. I don't fell motivated in making an hard race if i know that if i fail i can do it with tuning... the best events in the game in fact are amg, vettel challange and licences.
 
Ryan81
I agree that giving yourself restrictions is the way to go but as I haven't got the patch which tells you what the hp of the AI cars is, much of the time I can only assume that the AI cars showing on the top of the screen are stock. Now, sometimes they are, other times they aren't but nothing let's me know this, I've just got to buy a car and pray that it will be competitive stock (don't like tuning cars)
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Er..

First of all, I don't think there's a non-stock AI car in any event in GT5. If there is, you won't mind proving it.

Second: The power and weight of the AI cars are both clearly in the list, unless I'm going insane.
 
Corrigan
Er..

First of all, I don't think there's a non-stock AI car in any event in GT5. If there is, you won't mind proving it.

Second: The power and weight of the AI cars are both clearly in the list, unless I'm going insane.
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There most certainly is all you have to do is listen to some of them to tell they aren't running stock exhausts. So who knows what other upgrades they are running.

Edit: Perhaps you might wanna check out the power and weight of that list and tell me how cars that are supposedly "stock" are running almost 500hp?
 
shadders84
I'm not the best racer, but I'm not terrible. I used to be. How did I get from terrible to un-terrible?

I don't unnecessarily tune the hell out of my cars.

I have read people complain about the lack of tuning restrictions in the latest seasonal events. The solution is simple, buy the stock car, don' tune it, and try the race.

Maybe you'll lose. That's ok; it's a part of racing. When your car is a little slow and your tires are crap, you get to know track (and the car) intimately. If you try the race twice and it is obvious that you need to tune, do some moderate tuning. Maybe an engine chip, a sport muffler, a sprinkle of turbo.
The point is the game is much more fun when you moderate yourself! Don't go tuning your car so that it has more horsepower than a civil war calvary unit and tires that are softer than a silk bag full of puppy ears. Go bit by bit. You'll become a better driver and the game won't be as bad as you make it out to be.
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I have bolded where you are entirely wrong and it's exactly what made the seasonal events so great...

Most of the seasonal events I didn't even place until my 6th or 7th try... by your logic I would have then gone and upgraded my power until I won.

They were specifically so great because you got to take a race that at first seems unwinable, but be assured your many tries and hours put into it won't be for naught because it is winnable.

This is not something you can get by simply feeling out races...

I don't want to spend hours trying only ton finally conclude "yeah, I won't win without a least a suspension upgrade". The restrictions took care of that potential negative for me... I get to know the race is possible, now it's up to me to become good enough...

Tell me honestly, in any of the previous seasonal events, would you not have tuned your car to higher hp/better tires after a few tries if you were just feeling it out to see if you felt it was winnable? I think so.. and that's why the suggestion to just limit yourself isn't the same as having restrictions.
 
"Restrict cars yourself"?




I'm sorry sir, but they don't allow that kind of talk around here. People have things to whine about you know.
 
Devedander
I have bolded where you are entirely wrong and it's exactly what made the seasonal events so great...

Most of the seasonal events I didn't even place until my 6th or 7th try... by your logic I would have then gone and upgraded my power until I won.

They were specifically so great because you got to take a race that at first seems unwinable, but be assured your many tries and hours put into it won't be for naught because it is winnable.

This is not something you can get by simply feeling out races...

I don't want to spend hours trying only ton finally conclude "yeah, I won't win without a least a suspension upgrade". The restrictions took care of that potential negative for me... I get to know the race is possible, now it's up to me to become good enough...

Tell me honestly, in any of the previous seasonal events, would you not have tuned your car to higher hp/better tires after a few tries if you were just feeling it out to see if you felt it was winnable? I think so.. and that's why the suggestion to just limit yourself isn't the same as having restrictions.
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Very well said.👍
 
You actually upset me with the bag of puppy ears comment. Poor little puppies being slaughtered just for you to use as a metaphor :(

As for your point, I do agree to an extent. No point entering a race against mediocre cars with a track monster. But on the flip side, PD should've put some basic restrictions on the races in the first place.

I enter with cars equal to my opponents when I can, fwiw.
 

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