Million+ Car List (Currently cannot be traded)

Big Thanks to Garbuckle for his hard work on his GT5 Matrix. Information obtained from here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=168769

This list is not finial and will update as needed.

76 cars total. 22 can be won through ASpec/BSpec events. That leaves 54 cars that you'll have to shell out cash for.

Ferrari 330 P4 Race Car '67 20,000,000
Ford Mark IV Race Car '67 20,000,000
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2010 20,000,000
Jaguar XJ13 Race Car '66 20,000,000
Ford GT40 Race Car '69 19,829,700
Lamborghini Miura P400 Bertone Prototype CN.0706 '67 15,000,000
Chaparral 2J Race Car '70 14,446,126
Ferrari F2007 12,500,000
Chaparral 2D Race Car '67 12,038,626
Alfa Romeo GIULIA TZ2 carrozzata da ZAGATO CN.AR750106 '65 10,000,000
Ferrari F10 '10 10,000,000
Citroën GT by Citroën Race Car 5,600,000
Bentley Speed 8 Race Car '03 5,534,605
Mazda 787B Race car '91 5,260,000
Mercedes-Benz Sauber Mercedes C9 Race Car '89 5,167,699
Audi R8 LMS Race Car '09 5,054,359
Audi R8 LMS Race Car (Team PlayStation) '09 5,053,939
Lancia STRATOS Rally Car '77 4,945,100
Gran Turismo Formula Gran Turismo 4,819,100
Audi R10 TDI Race Car '06 4,750,000
Jaguar XJR-9 LM Race Car '88 4,572,160
Toyota Toyota 7 Race Car '70 4,391,753
Peugeot 905 Race Car '92 4,362,889
Audi R8 Race Car '01 4,110,196
Toyota MINOLTA Toyota 88C-V Race Car '89 4,099,305
Nissan R92CP Race Car '92 4,000,000
Peugeot 908 HDi FAP - Team Oreca Matmut '10 4,000,000
Peugeot 908 HDi FAP - Team Peugeot Total '10 4,000,000
Jay Leno Tank Car '03 3,997,280
Pescarolo Sport Pescarolo-Courage - Judd GV5 Race Car '04 3,969,860
Pescarolo Sport Courage C60 - Peugeot Race Car '03 3,964,000
Audi R8 Race Car (Audi PlayStation Team ORECA) '05 3,851,280
Pescarolo Sport Pescarolo C60 Hybride - Judd Race car '05 3,851,220
BMW V12 LMR Race Car '99 3,758,884
Gran Turismo Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car 3,600,000
BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car '97 3,575,862
Mercedes-Benz CLK-GTR Race Car '98 3,560,976
Nissan R89C Race Car '89 3,463,460
Panoz Esperante GTR-1 Race Car '98 2,989,725
Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car '98 2,989,710
Toyota GT-ONE Race Car (TS020) '99 2,927,445
Pagani Zonda R '09 2,600,000
Ford Ford GT LM Race Car 2,500,000
Ford Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II 2,410,038
Bugatti Veyron 16.4 '09 2,000,000
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R (C5) '00 2,000,000
Citroën GT by Citroën Concept '08 2,000,000
Citroën GT by Citroën Road Car 2,000,000
Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca Race Car #91 '00 1,998,290
Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca Race Car #51 '00 1,994,740
Lancia DELTA S4 Rally Car '85 1,994,480
Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Evolution 2 Rally Car '86 1,993,810
Chevrolet Camaro LM Race Car 1,975,770
Lister Storm V12 Race Car '99 1,968,280
Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Rally Car '85 1,964,540
Ford RS200 Rally Car '85 1,957,210
Jaguar XJ220 LM Race Car 1,950,520
Suzuki ESCUDO Dirt Trial Car '98 1,946,300
Gillet Vertigo Race Car '04 1,943,180
Honda NSX-R Prototype LM Race Car 1,746,973
Mitsubishi STARION 4WD Rally Car '84 1,735,738
Ferrari SP1 '08 1,500,000
Cadillac CIEN Concept '02 1,499,498
Volkswagen W12 Nardo Concept '01 1,499,468
Audi Le Mans quattro '03 1,498,193
Audi Nuvolari quattro '03 1,497,780
Audi Pikes Peak quattro '03 1,497,780
Mazda Furai Concept '08 1,497,765
Opel Calibra Touring Car '94 1,492,192
Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI '93 1,484,790
Vauxhall Calibra Super Touring Car '94 1,475,963
Mercedes-Benz AMG 190 E 2.5 - 16 Evolution II Touring Car '92 1,300,000
Ford AU 2000 Ford Falcon XR8 1,238,356
Mercedes-Benz CLK Touring Car '00 1,238,206
Ferrari Enzo Ferrari '02 1,000,000
McLaren F1 '94 1,000,000

Cars under 1,000,000
I've only verified the FTO ST after the original update but will confirm and update as needed.

Ford GT '02 999,740
Viper GTS R Concept '00 999,665
Zonda C12S 7.3 '02 999,645
GT-R Concept (Tokyo Motor Show 2001) '01 999,425
R390 GT1 Road Car '98 999,425
GT-R Concept LM Race Car 998,755
350Z Concept LM Race Car 998,635
RX-8 Concept LM Race Car 997,970
Fairlady Z Concept LM Race Car 997,560
5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car '85 996,875
RSC Rally Raid Car 993,075
FTO Super Touring Car 991,940
Abt Audi TT-R Touring Car '02 991,270
Astra Touring Car (Opel Team Phoenix) '00 991,200
Zonda LM Race Car 991,005
M3 GTR Race Car '01 990,015
NSX-R Prototype LM Road Car 990,000
RX-7 LM Race Car 985,320
Astra Super Touring Car '00 984,000

I do wonder about the FTO Touring Car you mentioned earlier. On my list, it's under a million, but you say yours is nearer to 2 million? I got most/all my prices from mygranturismo.net, so I can't confirm how accurate the prices are.

Edit: I'm going to add these here as well, seeing as most (all?) can not be traded as well, probably due to the fact that they are worth a million when new.

Ford GT '02 999,740
Viper GTS R Concept '00 999,665
Zonda C12S 7.3 '02 999,645
GT-R Concept (Tokyo Motor Show 2001) '01 999,425
R390 GT1 Road Car '98 999,425
GT-R Concept LM Race Car 998,755
350Z Concept LM Race Car 998,635
RX-8 Concept LM Race Car 997,970
Fairlady Z Concept LM Race Car 997,560
5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car '85 996,875
RSC Rally Raid Car 993,075
FTO Super Touring Car 991,940
Abt Audi TT-R Touring Car '02 991,270
Astra Touring Car (Opel Team Phoenix) '00 991,200
Zonda LM Race Car 991,005
M3 GTR Race Car '01 990,015
NSX-R Prototype LM Road Car 990,000
RX-7 LM Race Car 985,320
Astra Super Touring Car '00 984,000

Less than 10% of the cars in the game, but only 19 of these cars are always available to buy. Out of these 76 cars, 23 of them are prize cars (with overlaps to those always available to buy).

i love the new update, keeps the rare cars rare... good job pd

garbuckle

I do wonder about the FTO Touring Car you mentioned earlier. On my list, it's under a million, but you say yours is nearer to 2 million? I got most/all my prices from mygranturismo.net, so I can't confirm how accurate the prices are.

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I might be wrong too. I'm at work at the moment so I cannot confirm. I thought that was what I paid for it.

You cannot trade them but you can still gift them.

Price does not necessarily indicate exclusivity. The Tommykaira ZZII was extremely rare to me (just found one in the UCD a few days ago), yet is very affordable.

Yup, keep the rare cars rare and make people actually WORK for them

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Can you not gift them either?

You can borrow/loan them from a friend's garage to use, but you can not gift/trade them (i.e. you can not transfer ownership).

Edit: let's keep this thread as an information only thread. It's good to have a list for people to see which cars can not be traded/gifted anymore. There are plenty of other threads that can be used for opinions on the update itself.

shelbyz4u2nv

i love the new update, keeps the rare cars rare... good job pd

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true, but now its gonna be harder to get the rare cars

shelbyz4u2nv

i love the new update, keeps the rare cars rare... good job pd

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+1

Haters gonna hate! I just can laugh at them.

fissionproject

Yup, keep the rare cars rare and make people actually WORK for them

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Excellent words. You deserve a beer or a cookie.👍

Pretty short list, if you think about it.

diegorborges

Excellent words. You deserve a beer or a cookie.👍

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How about both

tezster

Pretty short list, if you think about it.

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It is a short list indeed, who knew that 7.3% of cars in the game were the only reason that 95% of people felt any urge to actually play the game?

It is not the percentage of actual cars that are difficult to obtain that ticks most people off. It is the actual hours of mindless grinding that it takes to obtain them. If they could be obtained via challenging 30-60 minute races it would be fine.
It is illogical to say that the game is designed to be a grind. The game is designed to be a cheat! Easy A-spec and B-spec races that you can "tune" into an easy win in exchange for cash and cars? That is a cheat. If the game was designed to be 100% about rewarding improved driving skills, there would be no tuning and just one make races against tough AI opponents. But they build in cheats, and then they force you to grind away for eons if you want to obtain some cool cars. Silliness. If they are going to stick with this new rule, they need to publish new races with high payouts, challenging, sure, but not impossible, or just increase the amount of credits exponentially for the extreme series races. The endurance races are silliness for most gamers (I relish the idea of someday attempting the 24 Hrs at Lemans with some of my friends, but it is silliness to expect a single player to do it with no save mode.)
By my very rough calculations, you would have to grind at Indy 2,200 times in order to purchase to 20 most expensive cars on this list (and I rounded up to 100,000 credits from whatever it actually is). Assuming 5 minutes per grind, I think that adds up to over 180 hours of grinding. Assume we are not mindless robots and can maybe spend 5 hours a week doing this on average, and most people will take 36 weeks of GRINDING (not, you know, enjoying the game) just to earn enough credits to purchase the most expensive 20 cars in the game.
That is idiotic.
I really enjoy racing online with my friends, I like the physics engine. But gamers should have access to 100% of the cars and paints after playing through the extreme A-Spec races, the licenses, and the special events.

You can't go by that list, or the price of the cars to determine what is and is not tradable. There are many cars costing less than 1 million credits that are also not tradeable. This, like many aspects of this game seems to be completely random and either not thought out at all, or has some mysterious and unlexplained reasoning behind it.

You can still trade tickets, so getting expensive cars is not completely dead. The one trade per day per console is going to hurt people who have more than one child, friend, spouse, etc. that uses the same console.

I believe I have worked out what exactly is the cutoff limit in terms of value of the car determining if it can be traded (courtesy mygranturismo.net). It is NOT just the 76 cars, there are 18 more that cannot be traded as well. This includes the FTO Super Touring Car, all but 2 Paganis, and most LM cars. The most expensive car that should be tradeable is the Audi A4 Touring Car 2004. I will test this out tomorrow to see if that is indeed the cutoff.

"It is the actual hours of mindless grinding that it takes to obtain them." THIS im beyond happy rare cars are becoming rare. I never duped or anything my trades were real. But the fact i cant say, win a car, sell it, an repeat for cash ticks me off.

Thanks, Blitz. If that's the case, then it's probably these ones as well:

Ford GT '02 999,740
Viper GTS R Concept '00 999,665
Zonda C12S 7.3 '02 999,645
GT-R Concept (Tokyo Motor Show 2001) '01 999,425
R390 GT1 Road Car '98 999,425
GT-R Concept LM Race Car 998,755
350Z Concept LM Race Car 998,635
RX-8 Concept LM Race Car 997,970
Fairlady Z Concept LM Race Car 997,560
5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car '85 996,875
RSC Rally Raid Car 993,075
FTO Super Touring Car 991,940
Abt Audi TT-R Touring Car '02 991,270
Astra Touring Car (Opel Team Phoenix) '00 991,200
Zonda LM Race Car 991,005
M3 GTR Race Car '01 990,015
NSX-R Prototype LM Road Car 990,000
RX-7 LM Race Car 985,320
Astra Super Touring Car '00 984,000

I can confirm that the Renault 5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car '85 cannot be traded.

Stated by Bombe32, and I agree: It's possible the million dollar limit applies to the *new* value of a car (i.e. a new 0-mile Veyron is 20 million, but a used one is less). So while a car may be just below a million, the value of the car is a million, and therefore can no longer be traded (like the Maxi 5, FTO, and probably the others I listed above)

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diegorborges

+1

Haters gonna hate! I just can laugh at them.

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Same here, especially when I am out in the track with the rare car they never will touch, lol.

saleenf5

But the fact i cant say, win a car, sell it, an repeat for cash ticks me off.

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aha.. Win X2010 carbon, give it to someone and try to win again

garbuckle

Price does not necessarily indicate exclusivity. The Tommykaira ZZII was extremely rare to me (just found one in the UCD a few days ago), yet is very affordable.

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Me too! I haven't seen the ZZII in the UCD for over 1,000 game days! Only the ZZ-S popped up the most! I was lucky that my friend traded the car for one of my Silver Chromes

fissionproject

Yup, keep the rare cars rare and make people actually WORK for them

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That's what I'm doing right now on the game -- grinding to reach 15 or 20 million, just to make sure if the Chaparral 2J/2D ever pops up on the UCD/OCD. If it's taking too long, then I have to spend it on those LMPs or LM/JGTC Race Cars or touring cars or collect an entire make (already did that for the Lancers).

shelbyz4u2nv

i love the new update, keeps the rare cars rare... good job pd

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People duping cars (such as the X1 and the 370z GT Academy Edition) didn't help keep these cars rare .
Had PD not allow the copy of game saves (as it did towards release time), this wouldn't be happening .

there's allready a thread sticky on the marketpplace of this

garbuckle

Thanks, Blitz. If that's the case, then it's probably these ones as well:

Ford GT '02 999,740
Viper GTS R Concept '00 999,665
Zonda C12S 7.3 '02 999,645
GT-R Concept (Tokyo Motor Show 2001) '01 999,425
R390 GT1 Road Car '98 999,425
GT-R Concept LM Race Car 998,755
350Z Concept LM Race Car 998,635
RX-8 Concept LM Race Car 997,970
Fairlady Z Concept LM Race Car 997,560
5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car '85 996,875
RSC Rally Raid Car 993,075
FTO Super Touring Car 991,940
Abt Audi TT-R Touring Car '02 991,270
Astra Touring Car (Opel Team Phoenix) '00 991,200
Zonda LM Race Car 991,005
M3 GTR Race Car '01 990,015
NSX-R Prototype LM Road Car 990,000
RX-7 LM Race Car 985,320
Astra Super Touring Car '00 984,000

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I was able to send the nsx-r prototype LM road car just now. Don't know if it makes a difference, but I bought it from the UCD. Somewhere around 400k I believe. I performed engine and chassis rebuilds and sent it off. Its definitely after the cutoff too, because it would no let me send off the R8 race car.

EDIT: It was 488,499 credits. pp567. 205km. Honda. LV 14 requirement.