Wondered why I kept getting blown-out!

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I don't like tuning cars. I really prefer to drive/race them as they are. To me you get a more natural normal feel of that particular car. Yet, it seems "everyone" races with suped up-max tuned cars. So that's what I did to a couple vehicles and finally became competitive. However, that's very disappointing.

What kind of racer are you? Stock or Tuned?
 
I'm not sure, but I get the feeling this has been covered before... But for the record, I love racing stock, by which I mean cars I haven't tuned; I seriously love the tuner cars in GT5. I do have some cars I've tuned that I still race, but not usually online. I really want to find some people to race Best Motoring style with, i.e. stock, mostly JDM's, mostly at Tsukuba, but I haven't actually tried looking yet. Been busy.


shmogt
I max everything out. Gives the true potential of the car. If I want it stock I'll buy another one
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I guess that's what it comes down to. I was watching Best Motoring the other night and they were saying that Honda designed the DC5 (I think it was the DC5) so that when an average weight driver is sitting in it, there's almost perfect 50:50 weight distribution between the left and right halves of the car. In another, the designer of the 350Z said it had 53:47 front/rear distribution so that when you brake into a corner there's more weight on the front axle to help turn-in, then as you accelerate through the turn the weight evens out to 50:50 for perfect balance. Things like that make me very hesitant to modify cars because you never know what you're going to mess up by tuning them, a lot of performance cars are actually very, very well considered and designed so that all aspects work in harmony. Renowned tuners like Amuse and RE Amemiya spend a lot of time on their tunes, I don't, therefore if I want to drive a tuned car I'll take one of theirs... Now, anyway, about a month ago I didn't care. So what I'm saying is if I tune a car I just buy all the parts and leave it at that, so it's just too vague for me. Each to their own, of course.

Also it's way cheaper to race stock!
 
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I prefer to tune suspension, tires and weight with maybe only an exhaust. Otherwise the car becomes to fast and boring. I like my cars around 450-550 PPs.
 
I max out cars. I can always remove parts online, but it's harder to add if they aren't there. A maxed out Audi wagon makes me giggle every time.
 
fully upgrading doenst make it better, things like Turbos & drivetrains can make or break a car. using the right parts are key. even suspensions, fully customs get slower times then a sports or even stock. even when you tune you suspension
 
TeddyBear-420
fully upgrading doenst make it better, things like Turbos & drivetrains can make or break a car. using the right parts are key. even suspensions, fully customs get slower times then a sports or even stock. even when you tune you suspension
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Correct, for some cars. The Speed 12 for instance, turned into "Tank Car II" with max tuning. LOL.

But some cars just rock fully tuned--GT-R, Vette, etc.
 
I always drive all my cars stock, and enter rooms with PP limits and aids off. It's more competitive and more fun. Plus more of the horrible kid drivers online aren't there because they're too busy driving 300mph in an X1 on SSR7. It's only the good drivers left in the lobbies I join.
 
neema_t
Things like that make me very hesitant to modify cars because you never know what you're going to mess up by tuning them, a lot of performance cars are actually very, very well considered and designed so that all aspects work in harmony.
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Most vehicles are also designed with slight or heavy understeer because most drivers don't know how to countersteer when they encounter oversteer. Look what Honda did with the AP1 S2000 because of the neutral/oversteer handling. They nerfed it and tuned in more understeer because people can't drive.
 
I tune my cars by the pp range i inted to race them in or by possible weaknesses that i have observed in them. No max tunes for me(except for that Silvia S13). Some of the stock settings seem bit questionable though, like many of the sports cars coming with zero camber. S2000 for example come out of the factory with front camber of 0.5 and rear of 1.5 while in GT5 it comes with zero...
 
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I drive mostly stock. I like the cars the way they were designed. I might throw on an ecu tune, air filter, exhaust or some forced induction on some cars, but I rarely go full out. Btw, to any of you fellow stock drivers, feel free to shoot me a message or a friend request because I need some other stock drivers.
 
I don't believe I have any cars that are tuned to the max. However, I always buy items that can be removed (ecu chip, racing flywheel, filter, etc.) so that I can adjust my car according to which race I'm entering. I also buy the racing suspension but only to remove the 0.20 rear toe that is in every single car in the game. I'm not good at suspension setups so that's usually the only tune I make in that area.
dtn23
Btw, to any of you fellow stock drivers, feel free to shoot me a message or a friend request because I need some other stock drivers.
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You can add me if you wish. 👍
 
It depends. For personal use, it really depends on the car, whether I feel it to be too slow stock. For tune requests, it depends what the client wants.
 
Nowadays I find myself mostly racing only three cars. The RUF RGT, RUF Yellowbird and RUF BTR. All of these are just perfect as they are (with sports hard, the tyres they came with) so I daren't touch the settings. I have a couple cars I've tuned but racing stock is much more enjoyable for some reason especially when I can beat tuned cars.
 
I love to drive stock, but I have a few Tuning Specials... such as mt Lambo and Lexus-destroying Cobra... :sly:
 
Milldrum
I max out cars. I can always remove parts online, but it's harder to add if they aren't there. A maxed out Audi wagon makes me giggle every time.
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Haha I too maxed out the Audi (RS6 premium model), it really does make you grin really wide does it 👍

Back to the topic, I'm really variable on this subject. Sometimes I just feel like driving everything stock, sometimes the car simply needs more power. That's why the tuning system is in the game, something for everyone!
 
I love racing stock cars, in fact I run a weekly event called: Saturday Stock Car Series, come & join in the fun!

This Saturday we're racing a stock GT-R '07 on 4 tracks that have changeable weather which will be running for up to an hour at a time, so who knows what will happen!



:)
 
i run stock mostly.
We have 1k Cars available from every niche in automotive so tuning a BMW CSL for example is uneccesary cause you can jump into the DTM car.

I have of course cars where i bought a suspension, lsd and transmission, but those are rare.

there are a couple (handful) of cars fully tuned (like the Sambabus) but in any of these cases, i have the same car in stock settings also.

im driving mostly stock because i want to have fun while racing clean.
Im not having fun when i take a maxed out car and lower the pp to give me an advantage over other stock drivers.

I would maybe be more into fine tuning (lsd, suspension tranny) if it would not involve so much time testing the optimal setup.
 
I don't care much about engine upgrades, but I find that many cars need extensive suspension and drivetrain modifications in order to be competitive for a given PP level.
 
I'll usually do a mild tune for power, but will leave the suspension alone on street cars. I raced a bunch of tuner guys at the short Nordwand track and beat the pants off them.
 
It depends on the car and what it needs. Every car has a threshold, and finding that threshold and turning up to it is a challenge in itself. I enjoy slowly modifying the car until I get there. Typically I'll cross that line a little bit with HP and then go into my LSD and make it manageable. The reason for this is because I feel I get more controllable power later in the power band that doesn't upset the control of the vehicle at that point.
 
In the real world, there aren't many races for stock cars aside from AutoX, and even in stock categories, people will run high-performance tires and brake pads.

By racing completely stock/untuned, it seems that you're trying to apply driving in a rather unrealistic way to track racing.
 
VBR
I love racing stock cars, in fact I run a weekly event called: Saturday Stock Car Series, come & join in the fun!

This Saturday we're racing a stock GT-R '07 on 4 tracks that have changeable weather which will be running for up to an hour at a time, so who knows what will happen!

:)
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Wish I could do Saturdays. Alas it's impossible!
 
How can you handle a tuned car if you can't manage it stock first? Stock cars all the way. Gotta learn to crawl before you learn to fly.
 
McClarenDesign
Gotta learn to crawl before you learn to fly.
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Aaaaaaaaand all those kids online just dropped their ds3 in a pouting fit.

Me, I love stock racing. Especially the stock evo and suburu. I do find it funny that the subie beats the evo around nuremburg(?) just about every time. Or the gtr beating the zr1 in every way imaginable.

NOTE: I do not want a zr1 gtr debate. Just stating an observation.
 
DJones
Aaaaaaaaand all those kids online just dropped their ds3 in a pouting fit.

Me, I love stock racing. Especially the stock evo and suburu. I do find it funny that the subie beats the evo around nuremburg(?) just about every time. Or the gtr beating the zr1 in every way imaginable.

NOTE: I do not want a zr1 gtr debate. Just stating an observation.
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yeah, subaru is a bit faster on the nurb than the evo. Better tourque distribution over a rpm range. But i like the transmision sound of the evo though.
 

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