Distracted by birds and bees, impeded by cats, surprised by snakes: I love GT4!

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I have finished all four Gran Turismo's, all gold licenses on each despite being only an average driver and tuner. My chief weapon has been time. I try over and over until I get it. This was what made mission 34 so hard for me - that 2 minute wait sucks real bad when you have to run the test over a hundred times. If anyone wants suggestions on what to do during that wait, I've got a number of them :-)

After two weeks of dedicating my life to mission 34, I had the black formula 1 car and finally I could get down to what Gran Turismo is really all about. At this point, people seem to separate into different camps. There are the listers and cataloguers who help guide the rest of us through the game (most of whom finished GT4 last spring). There are the skill testers trying to beat the hardest races with the most under-spec cars possible or setting lap times for others to aspire to. There are the efficiency seekers trying not to spend money or buy cars; finding the most elegant solutions to Polyphony Digital's challenge. GT4 has brought out the photographers and the point accumulators too. But the camp I like is the collectors. Some collectors like to just get their hands on EVERYTHING. Some only like particular makes or eras or types - like JGTC or LeMans cars. In previous GT's, we had to have multiple memory cards to get all 4 colors of NISMO 400 R's - we needed multiple garages, multiple games - we needed massive patience! I never did win the red Lancia Stratos in GT2 because the Apricot Hill endurance race had several possible prize cars which was almost never the Stratos and you didn't have B-Spec so it was 10 times more devastating to see that you had won a repeat prize car for the 6th time. (On the other hand, you could buy a racing package for your Stratos and voila! the famous Alitalia rally car.)

First I readied my garage: anything I didn't like or didn't want was sold (or gotten "rid of") - everything else was tuned appropriately (IMO) and left washed and ready to go. No clutter. This step also involved wheel choosing that took a big chunk of time - used wheels on a 29 day cycle - very nice touch PD.

During the game I had kept watch on the used car lots through several cycles so I already had what I wanted from there (all of the NSX type S-Zero colors, NSX type R colors, Elise 190 colors etc.) but I had purchased relatively few "new" cars. So I had this lurking need to try out those dealerships. I bought an AC Cobra and a Cusco Impreza for starters, but before I could move on to some others (like the Red Bull Audi's) I somehow got sidetracked and trapped in the American Hall trying to win a good color of Plymouth Super Bird. I really hate those dark greens and the various tans that are so prevalent in the old Dodge cars. I finally won a "Lime Light" green one and thought I was happy. But when I tried it out in the Muscle Car championship, I raced against an orange one and I had to have it!



I was enjoying the muscle cars so I didn't B-spec much and found my favorite car to use was a Dodge Charger Super Bee 426 Hemi '71. I love the replays of these with their stock suspensions diving and rolling all over the place. I liked my "Citron Yella" one but thought maybe a purple one would be pretty sweet too so now I'm B-speccing the New York Endurance race and using any passable color I won to enter the muscle car races where again any passable color Super Bird would be used to run muscle car races again. Then when I ran out of new colors to run in the muscle car races it was back to the New York Enduro and etc. This took longer than you might expect! And in the meantime I developed a small obsession with obtaining the BLACK Super Bee. This was the killer. Once I had all the colors of Super Birds I wanted (8), there was no reason to keep doing the muscle car races and I started ONLY B-speccing the New York Enduro. I should have taken a picture of my garage list at this time. I had 4 pages of Super Bees and no black one. These pages didn't include the thirty or so Bee's I had discarded along the way. Thank you PD for B-spec. If you would have given me 29 colors of Super Bee's to win and only A-spec enduros to do it with, well who know what disaster that might have been. Can you imagine if there were also a couple other possible prize cars for that race in multiple colors each too? Puts alot of the frequently lodged (and often justified) complaints about GT4 into perspective!

Now when the John Elway led Broncos finally won a Super Bowl I was happier than when that Black Super Bee finally showed up, but it wasn't by all that much. It's one of those satisfied feelings where you don't jump around or even necessarily say "hell yeah!" but you're happy for quite awhile and it improves the outlook of life in general.



...but - you can only play around with them so much after you win them so I was off to get a '61 E-Type Jaguar as I had sold my ugly grey one cleaning out the garage. This is also a great car for replays. I was thinking British Racing Green, although Sherwood Green and Opalescent Silver Blue Metallic looked pretty nice too. Here we go again... this time it was Imperial Maroon that I couldn't get my hands on. Five pages of E-types later, I was watching Nurburgring replays of my various Jaguars.



I found the Europe Classic Car League was sorta fun for the Jag though it was way too easy. I was leisurely guiding my Indigo Blue E-type toward the Karussell when I noticed in the corner of my screen I was running second place. Second? Behind who? I started paying attention and the margin between me and him was growing - alot! I finished a full 35 seconds behind an AC Cobra - what the?

I changed my tires from Sports hard to Sports soft and cut his margin to 15 seconds. They put a Carmen Ghia and a Fiat 500F in the same race as an AC Cobra? This was worse than having that damn Buick Special in the Muscle Car races. Totally unfair! But I was using a pretty nice Jag, maybe racing tires would do the trick (not allowed, standard or sports tires required, reset game). Nitrous? Doesn't seem right on such a classic. Stage 1 NA not enough (for me anyway), Stage 3 overkill - Stage 2 NA tune and I stumbled into the best race I've had since I started this game in March! I will give you ONE guess how many points this race was worth.

So now I'm enjoying my Birds, Bees, and Jaguars - wondering if it's time to try out those Red Bull Audi's yet - after all, I've accumulated 72,374,364 credits screwing around with these color collections - I can buy whatever I want. But it just occurred to me that I sold my white '54 Corvette convertible because I really would prefer a blue one (or maybe black) and BTW there's also the Orange Formula One Car, and the Blue one too - I know I need those...
 
Great story. It would make a great magazine article. I, too, share the passion for collecting. The navy blue Chevelles aren't going to win themselves, and niether is the black Cizeta, or the red Alfa Guila Sprint GTA, or the white, green and red Fourmula Gran Turismo, or the...
 
Toronado, you beat me to the exact same comment!

Very good story, a nice read, especially the millions upon millions of Super Bees in search of a black one, that really shows determination/devotion on your part!

I too am a collector but in a more specialised way like you said, I collect each and every different Skyline there is. I don't go for different colours of each one but if I see one that has a name one letter different to one I've already got my hand goes straight to my virtual wallet!

All the JGTC Skylines and the old '60s and '70s ones too, every single one is what I'm after. As the Skylines are my favourite car, ever, I figure that if I own every variety in the game I can finally find the car I truly love!

DE

EDIT - My points guess for the NA2 Jag at the Nurb : 36pts
 
next someone is going to tell me they have found a different speed 8 - 14 in my garage and all the same (shame there isn't a black one hiding somewhere) ... my red R8 was the 11th in line (also 13th and 14th ;)), and i am still unsure as whether i have all the colours of the F1s... but a page and a half of them should be sufficient...

will have to check thru for my super bee colour - but i have a strange suspicion my one and only is black!?! and i am sure i have that black cizetta. may have to start an e-type collection. i can't remember the colours i have now, but they are proof that a dodgey paint job can ruin even the most beautiful of vehicles.
 
MAD WRITEUP DUDE, SHEER MADDNESS!!!

Though, a very interesting read I must say... I haven't collected many cars though, except for the 10 Minolta's I have in my garage from b-Specing El Captain while I sleep... I sell them when I need to to buy and mod new drifting cars...

Drift car collection... Must have about 30 Drift cars, all set up and ready to slide...
 
Heh Vixen I got something similar to that, my collection of CLK-GTRs from doing the DTM (Deutsche Tourwagen Meistershaft / German Touring Car Championship) about ten times over for the money! Most people B-Spec it though, which I don't think is really right as it only takes an hour or so to A-Spec your way to 9,000,000cr!

As for drift cars, I have only the one (an old Skyline R32 M-Spec, from before they became 4WD) because it means I can get to know it really well!

oh BTW why does everyone seem to call the 88C-V by it's sponsor name :confused:

DE
 
Awesome! Excellent read! :D:tup:

The Write...er..Race Reports forums has been slow lately. Nice jumpstart. :cheers:
 
It sure would kenny...

AlfaAlfa, I wanted to ask you (since you like collecting colours) if you know if the NSX LM Road car comes in different colours... Cos if it does, I may just become a colour nbut like you on this one... :)

Let us know about your next venture into the car collecting business K... :)
 
ViXeN
It sure would kenny...

AlfaAlfa, I wanted to ask you (since you like collecting colours) if you know if the NSX LM Road car comes in different colours... Cos if it does, I may just become a colour nbut like you on this one... :)

Let us know about your next venture into the car collecting business K... :)
It does. it comes in the same colors of the S2000 GT1: Silver, Black, White (same shades and everything).
 
kennythebomb
Cool stuff. I don't have time or devotion to get all the colors I want, but it would sure help my photography!
Ever heard of arcade mode? ;) You can get any color you want there :) It's ok, I never give it a second thought, but if you really want a car in a different color it's there. Unless you want to take pics at photo travel locations, then you're outta luck.
 
Thanks for the positive feedback, I haven't really done anything this week besides mess around with the jags on nurburgring (and a little on Apricot Hill).


Toronado - I only have two Chevelles, Desert Sand Metallic and Astro Blue Metallic. The Desert Sand one looks almost exactly like a Chevelle my mom had in the 70's and I had no idea how cool a car it was back then. She used to always say "I don't know why I burn out the clutch so easily in this car". Of course now it's "duh!" - that much hp in that heavy a car :lol:


Dark Elite - your points guess is 35 too high! (am I that bad of a driver or are the points really messed up for some races?)


Ezz777 - I knew there was somebody out there who got the black one right away - I hope you value it highly ;)


ViXeN - I like the idea of a drift car collection 'cause it has a purpose. BTW, you can always check color availability by either going to a dealership and looking (they show alot of the prize cars but give the same info as if you could buy it) - or by going to arcade mode and choosing the model you're curious about. It will show you all the colors possible for that car.


Kenny - I spend alot of time in the photo mode forum just looking and I'm glad you're taking pics rather than dinking around b-speccing races over and over. I'm not a good photo mode person 'cause I get too caught up in how nice a certain car looks and disregard other important factors that make up a whole shot. But photo mode is one of the coolest ideas PD has had. I'm sorta surprised they actually put something so offbeat in the game. I can imagine Sony execs saying "and who do you expect will want to take pictures of imaginary cars with an imaginary camera?" But half the time the photo forum is the most active part of GT Planet! And it deserves to be...
 
AlfaAlfa
Dark Elite - your points guess is 35 too high! (am I that bad of a driver or are the points really messed up for some races?)
Nah. The AC is just cheap. At least you didn't cave and pour 200 grand into a Dodge Charger like I did.
 
AlfaAlfa
Kenny - I spend alot of time in the photo mode forum just looking and I'm glad you're taking pics rather than dinking around b-speccing races over and over. I'm not a good photo mode person 'cause I get too caught up in how nice a certain car looks and disregard other important factors that make up a whole shot. But photo mode is one of the coolest ideas PD has had. I'm sorta surprised they actually put something so offbeat in the game. I can imagine Sony execs saying "and who do you expect will want to take pictures of imaginary cars with an imaginary camera?" But half the time the photo forum is the most active part of GT Planet! And it deserves to be...

I'm pretty certain another game came out with the photo feature, also - might be a need for speed??

Yeah, there are many great galleries now here on the planet, it amazes me what people come up with. It's one of my favorite aspects of the game and I hope they expand it's power in GT5.
 
AlfaAlfa
ViXeN - I like the idea of a drift car collection 'cause it has a purpose. BTW, you can always check color availability by either going to a dealership and looking (they show alot of the prize cars but give the same info as if you could buy it) - or by going to arcade mode and choosing the model you're curious about. It will show you all the colors possible for that car.

Yeah I noticed that, never though about the arcade mode thing... hehe... Silly blonde me!!!

Anyway, I'm on my 3rd B-Speccing of Motegi 8 hour now, I have the black and silver NSX LM Road Cars, now I NEED the white one... Perhaps I'll get two of each so I can keep one of each with 0 km on the clock...
 
What's the point in keeping a car with 0.0 miles on it? The cars are there to be driven & driven as hard as possible! If you could afford several really nice or fast cars in real life, lets say for sake of argument, an NSX, a Vanquish, a Skyline and a Viper, would you seriously keep any of them with 0.0 miles on?!!!! (Anyone who answers yes to that is insane!)
 
Smallhorses
What's the point in keeping a car with 0.0 miles on it? The cars are there to be driven & driven as hard as possible! If you could afford several really nice or fast cars in real life, lets say for sake of argument, an NSX, a Vanquish, a Skyline and a Viper, would you seriously keep any of them with 0.0 miles on?!!!! (Anyone who answers yes to that is insane!)

YES!!! hahaha, Joking...

Why I said that was that obviously I'm gonna abuse them when I get them. hee heee... So I wanna win two of a kind so that when one's abused to it's max (starts loosing power and chassis goes) I can park it and abuse the next one...;)
 
Smallhorses
What's the point in keeping a car with 0.0 miles on it? The cars are there to be driven & driven as hard as possible! If you could afford several really nice or fast cars in real life, lets say for sake of argument, an NSX, a Vanquish, a Skyline and a Viper, would you seriously keep any of them with 0.0 miles on?!!!! (Anyone who answers yes to that is insane!)

The point is.... well there is no point!

I just happens that I haven't had the time to drive it. I have 140 odd cars, about 40 of which I have not driven at all and another 30 or so that I have driven less than 10 miles. The 'Scrooge does GT4 series' takes all of my playing time so once I won the american series (and the bee) I had no reason to drive it.
 
Great story. Ive started to pay a lot more attention to the race reports section of the forum recently and its proven to have a lot of fun reads. Thanks dude.
 
I ran the Old Muscle Car Cup for about a dozen times to get my Jamaica Blue Superbird. Then I got it and haven't driven it since as it's so beautiful to look at, i don't want it to wear out...
 
I remember racing that thing in the WRS,
I couldn't stand driving such a powerful car without a LSD, even if it does come in some pretty pimpin' colours lol. I only did like 4 laps and took 18th in Div 3, not even close to the best of my finishes but I was still in the points so I was a happy man. I like that black Charger that AlfaAlfa has a pic of in his write up.
 
that was a fun read--good job... :dopey:

i'm somewhat of a collector myself... today i finally got the color i wanted for the Honda NSX-R LM Prototype Road Car... black... finally... after selling white after white after white after silver after white versions... so what's that mean? well--now i have 99.79% of every color for every dealer/tuner Honda/Acura for my GT garage... 37 Acuras (i can't get the other DN-X in white?! BOO!!)... 416 Hondas (!!)... 7 Mugens... 7 Spoons... 30 Amuses... 1 Opera... wow, that's a lot of cars... 498 (!!)... um, yeah... and why'd i do this? because they were there!! heheh... :dunce:

and i also finally got the #5 red Clio Race Car for a full set of those--even pink... and a full set of the Motorsport Elises--nice flickable ride those are... all Corolla and Trueno AE86s... she-e-esh... :scared:

so now i find myself being 14 cars away from seeing if 1,000 is the magic number for the amount of cars one can hold in their garage... i'm hoping it isn't, because i still have to finish collecting at least one car of every make from every dealer in at least one color... :nervous:

if you find a car you like in GT4, i say collect em all! heheh... 👍
 
Sum1s2pid
so now i find myself being 14 cars away from seeing if 1,000 is the magic number for the amount of cars one can hold in their garage... i'm hoping it isn't, because i still have to finish collecting at least one car of every make from every dealer in at least one color... :nervous:

if you find a car you like in GT4, i say collect em all! heheh... 👍
That's the spirit! 416 Honda's 👍 Wow! Sounds like you're ready to start game save #2 - let us know if you bump into that 1000 car wall (even though I'm only at 308) :)



Greycap
I ran the Old Muscle Car Cup for about a dozen times to get my Jamaica Blue Superbird. Then I got it and haven't driven it since as it's so beautiful to look at, i don't want it to wear out...
But it will look even better on the replays and you might win a spare one in the process :D



vtec_guy
I couldn't stand driving such a powerful car without a LSD, even if it does come in some pretty pimpin' colours lol.
I like driving it largely because of how it looks, and since I've spent so much time in Gran Turismo's driving tight suspension, highly tuned cars - it's a nice switch hauling that beastly thing around the 90 degree corners of New York and watching the replays. It looks so realistic the way it leans and everything :-)
 
to all those hating me for having a black bee, well i don't. seems it was a very dark blue one. now i can update that i am totally hooked on getting this black bad boy. didn't realise all the fun colours it comes in - have 8 now, still no black one.

incidentally, has anyone worked out how to keep cars in order (once sorted by name) so you can look at the colour of one, then come back out and have them in the same order. when i do this on my f1s (still unsure how many diff colours i have), i go into one car to see the colour scheme, then come out and the order of the rest of them has changed.
 
:lol: @ you all... since my fetish is for small vintage cars, I spend most of my time scouring the used car lots for classics...

I already have my red Alfa Romeo Sprint Giula Speciale... I've collected most of the Isuzu Bellet colors, and am currently hunting for more KPGC Skylines...

I also have more Datsun 510s and Fiat 500Rs than I know what to do with... :lol: ...I think so far, I've only driven one of those 510s.

About keeping 0km, I like having non-used cars, so I try to get 10km specials whenever I can, and I usually keep a 0km version of each car I like in my garage, but as soon as I realized that car mileage resets to zero when you buy the car from the "Trade" menu... (from yourself or from another card)... I forgot all about it... I beat the crap out of them now...
 
Sum1s2pid
i'm somewhat of a collector myself... today i finally got the color i wanted for the Honda NSX-R LM Prototype Road Car... black... finally... after selling white after white after white after silver after white versions... heheh...

SHAME MAN!!! hehe, I ran the race 3 times...
1. NSX LM Road Car (BLACK)
2. NSX LM Road Car (Silver)
3. NSX LM Road Car (White)

I guess my PS2 was just really kind to me this weekend... I got all the colours I wanted (and possible) in just three runs of the race...

;)

My next will be looking for the RX7 LM car colours, sept I don't know where to find it yet... YET!!!
 
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