Declassified Documents: Saddam Had Terror Connections

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I just read this article this morning:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200908,00.html

It appears that Saddam's regime had multiple meetings and communications with the Taliban in Afghanistan and other Al Qaeda officials.



This is the second declassified document to show that Saddam was doing what the US originally accused him of. Why is it barely getting reported? They have been mentioned in Congress and are a matter of public record. Anyone can look them up. So, what's the deal?
 
In my opinion, the media is anti-war, and is not interested in anything that actually justifies the conflict, or makes Bush look like he actually knew what he was doing. Perhaps a bit generalized, but the press these days is more into slant and editorializing than the reporting of facts. They have to "help us" understand the news by slanting it the way they want it to be.

The media, again generalizing, has a very short memory. They are interested in sellings ads, not reporting news, and ad sales are generated by viewership, which is raised by either sensationalizing the news or by reporting what people like to hear.

All of these "pull our boys out" people do not understand that if our boys come home, the bad guys will follow them in, and this conflict will be here at home, just as bloody, just as messy, just as scary. What will they do then? Why, they'll burn the government for not doing something about it before it got that bad.

The "bad guys" are not interested in being left alone. They will not accept our withdrawal as a sign of peace, they will see it as a sign of weakness to be exploited. They are not interested in peace, they are interested in the total destruction of all cultures not like them. They think it's their mission from God to destroy Infidels. Not avoid, not convert, but Destroy.
 
This is only the tip of the iceberg....they are only through 10 percent or so of the tons of captured documents .
 
ledhed
This is only the tip of the iceberg....they are only through 10 percent or so of the tons of captured documents .
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It will be curious to see what all was actually going on. Now if more than one organization would just report on it.


Wait...that would mean admitting they were wrong and the reasons behind the war were actually there.
 
Quite honestly, Foolkiller, I think the media may be ignoring it because his connections to the Taliban are more or less common knowledge. It was heavily assumed by everyone that Saddam was involved with the Taliban, if only because he is a leader of a mid-eastern country.
 
Toronado
Quite honestly, Foolkiller, I think the media may be ignoring it because his connections to the Taliban are more or less common knowledge. It was heavily assumed by everyone that Saddam was involved with the Taliban, if only because he is a leader of a mid-eastern country.
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He also made contact with Al -queda...but there is no proof he had anything to do with 9-11 or any other terrorist acts USING Al -Queda.

Saddam was covering his bases.
 
Toronado
Quite honestly, Foolkiller, I think the media may be ignoring it because his connections to the Taliban are more or less common knowledge. It was heavily assumed by everyone that Saddam was involved with the Taliban, if only because he is a leader of a mid-eastern country.
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All I ever hear from the anti-war crowd is that there were no WMDs and Saddam had no connections to any terror organizations, thus the war is illegal and wrong.

Documents come out saying he had both the WMDs that he supposedly destroyed and his administration was holding multiple meetings with terror leaders to help train people and to aid them and suddenly no one wants to dicsuss it.

I think it is an important issue to be brought up because our president never said, "If you helped with 9/11 we will hunt you down." He said (paraphrasing) that if you aid terrorists then we will hunt you down. To me these documents are begining to show that the reasons I saw for going to war were there and the fact that it is being swept quietly under the carpet is disturbing.
 
How the worm turns? I remember at the start of the war, every time I turned to a US news network, they'd have patriotic banners and catchy war slogans up the wazoo. Like I've said before, the only non-spin news on the war I saw then was on BBC, but only because they carried reports from both Allied and Arab sources.

The news networks may be contributing to the current anti-war fever, but remember, the media is only pro-media, and whatever noise they report is noise that is already there.

And personally, the war itself, whether justified or not, was a very dubious venture, anyway. They went in expecting it to be a cakewalk, when any analyst worth his salt could have told you the eventual outcome before the first shot was fired.

The situation in Iraq now is exactly as I would have envisioned it to be at the start of the operation. Pockets of guerilla resistance and insurgents slowly wearing down the US War Machine. What's sad is that no one seems interested in winning this war anymore... merely in pulling out and cutting their losses, when the only true answer is to reinforce the troops over there and wage a decisive campaing to wipe out the insurgency.

Just leaving it half-assed isn't the answer. The answer was and always will be, either do it completely or don't do it at all. Thanks to the political see-saw, neither course of action was followed.
 
niky
They went in expecting it to be a cakewalk, when any analyst worth his salt could have told you the eventual outcome before the first shot was fired.
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If I recall, President Bush himself said it would be long and hard. They never made any WWII style promises (home by Christmas).

What's sad is that no one seems interested in winning this war anymore... merely in pulling out and cutting their losses, when the only true answer is to reinforce the troops over there and wage a decisive campaing to wipe out the insurgency.

Just leaving it half-assed isn't the answer. The answer was and always will be, either do it completely or don't do it at all. Thanks to the political see-saw, neither course of action was followed.
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Um, the president's entire administration is saying that they don't intend to pull out anytime soon or even give a timetable to do so. Many of the Democrats in Congress are trying to force this to happen. John Kerry proposed a motion to have all the troops out in one year, ironic since during the election he accused President bush of having a cut and run policy at one point.

I do agree that more troops is the answer. Even if it is just so that the troops can rotate out duty more often and stay better rested.

Well, that was moderatly off-topic, or at least belongs in the America thread.

I'm going to halt all war debate in here. If we wish to do that I suggest moving to the America thread.
 
All right... not interested in arguing anyway... :) .

Actually, what I meant is the public was expecting it to be another Desert Storm, quick and painless. It's only in the long garrisson that followed that public support started to grow thin.

While Bush is standing firm, it's sickening to see support from other sectors wane just when it's most needed.

Not debating here. I'm just stating that though I didn't support the war, I do recognize that crushing the insurgency is very important for global security. :)
 
niky
While Bush is standing firm, it's sickening to see support from other sectors wane just when it's most needed.

Not debating here. I'm just stating that though I didn't support the war, I do recognize that crushing the insurgency is very important for global security. :)
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I agree on both counts.
 
It's amazing how all the Bush haters still won't budge at all even though undeniable proof of his reasons for the war have been released. It's amazing what the media can do...when it really wants to. :sly:
 
Swift
It's amazing how all the Bush haters still won't budge at all even though undeniable proof of his reasons for the war have been released. It's amazing what the media can do...when it really wants to. :sly:
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More info is on the way...its going to be steady trickle . since they declassified more captured papers , needless to say Saddam was worse than we thought and was involved in more than we knew .
 
ledhed
More info is on the way...its going to be steady trickle . since they declassified more captured papers , needless to say Saddam was worse than we thought and was involved in more than we knew .
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Good. But I'm sure the left wing people are going to ask radically stupid questions like "Why wasn't this let out before" and "If this is the case, why hide it?"

I don't know...national security, security of the military operations and a whole host of other reasons.

Not that Bush is 100% right(he's off his rocker with the illegal immigrant stuff) but with Iraq he was right on and nobody wants to admit it.
 
Toronado
Quite honestly, Foolkiller, I think the media may be ignoring it because his connections to the Taliban are more or less common knowledge. It was heavily assumed by everyone that Saddam was involved with the Taliban, if only because he is a leader of a mid-eastern country.
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:odd:

Um, no. That's definitely not what the anti-Bush crowd "assumed".
 

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