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I would also make Hwy 140 from Catheys Valley to Mariposa. It's not a great road but it does have some nice sweeping turns and elevation changes going on. I get to drive it at least once a week right now to work and back.

I feel jealous sometimes for not giving myself a chance to explore the west coast. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade my kids or life for anything but, these are the conversations that stir all of the "what ifs".
 
I feel jealous sometimes for not giving myself a chance to explore the west coast. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade my kids or life for anything but, these are the conversations that stir all of the "what ifs".

I live in a nice spot. I can get to the coast or the mountains inside of a two hour drive easily. There are a ton of rural roads around here that you can do pretty much whatever you want on them. The west coast isn't as old as the east coast but there's plenty of history out here. I have spent many days just driving up into the hills and visiting small towns that have been around since the gold rush.

Game over. No more posts for me.
 
Important Announcement

We have had the opportunity to join S.N.A.I.L. with our own little idea that turned into something bigger then @euclid58 ever thought would happen. So here is our master plan:)

We made this series to have a little of TUDOR United SportsCar Championship and a little PWC in it and we came up with this. We are still working out some things but it is close to being done. The races will be Split into two classes GTLM/GTD (More info on the site) And will consist of 2 30 minute long races and we will add some rain for extra measure. The car list is set and can be subject to change, also the seasons will have 4 weeks of races in each one and there will be a race every other week, dates of the races are by their respective tracks. Please come join and make this series great!!!

@zer05ive your PM is still on the board:)
 
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Agreed. Some things HAVE to change. Here are some ideas off the top of my head:
  1. Penalty Limit - Once a division reaches a certain number of penalties, we stop issuing any more penalties
  2. New SNAIL OLR - Let's re-write our OLR to eliminate any non-contact penalties
  3. A "wink" Policy - Keep the OLR the same, but add a ;) next to the rules that you don't really have to follow
  4. A "big big friend" Policy - If any driver quits, we ask his besties to post their favorite memories/stories of him
I'm not sure which idea I like the most, but #3 is my early favorite. ;)


Im a noob , it being only my 3rd week as a SNAIL driver (D6) but what if you enforced penalties by reducing the HP that particular person can run. For someone who is over a certain penalty limit reduce their HP by X amount for X # of weeks. Just an idea to have the penalties inflict more real world consequences...
 
I Wish that I could post a link to the Great Sacandaga Lake (north end around Stewart's Pond) for the track creator. Good challenging parts and great elevation changes. Love it in my GTI. I can put up GPS coords for Google Earth though:

43°18'30.05"N
73°54'7.94"W
 
Collected my Birthday car today...... Am I one lucky b:censored:d or what!!

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This almost ended up at Eiger short once upon a time...
 
Wow. I missed alot. I'll just say this here. If the OLR states 2 tires must remain on the racing surface at all time(including inner/out rumble stripes) and you penalize a driver while obiding by the OLR but hits a pylon is wrong. You are wrong for penalizing and not conforming to the OLR as a steward or the OLR needs to be changed in that regards. It is point blank. The is no if ands or but about it.

I know at many autox events I go to, there is typically a white line and pylon is typically place 3 feet away from said pylon. You hit the pylon and there is a penaly. But the OLR needs to reflect that. Saying 2 tires must remain on the racing is a very broad spectrum when rumble strips are included as track boundaries.
 
Wow. I missed alot. I'll just say this here. If the OLR states 2 tires must remain on the racing surface at all time(including inner/out rumble stripes) and you penalize a driver while obiding by the OLR but hits a pylon is wrong. You are wrong for penalizing and not conforming to the OLR as a steward or the OLR needs to be changed in that regards. It is point blank. The is no if ands or but about it.

I know at many autox events I go to, there is typically a white line and pylon is typically place 3 feet away from said pylon. You hit the pylon and there is a penaly. But the OLR needs to reflect that. Saying 2 tires must remain on the racing is a very broad spectrum when rumble strips are included as track boundaries.

It's clearly stated. From the ORL:

15: Track Boundaries:

A:

Colliding with or using walls, fences, cones, brake markers or any other obstacle that is outside the track surface is forbidden, whether time is gained or not.
 
No but if we ever get one you guys will get some sweet point to point tarmac stages.

Santiago Canyon Road.
Hwy 74 Ortega Hwy.
Hwy 1 PCH Corona del Mar to Dana Point.

Any of my neighbors in LA feel free to chime in.
Mulholland ?

Edit: swapped out Laguna Canyon for PCH.
That's my Orange County Rally.
Unfortunately I believe an event creator would be necessary to do that.
 
Some folks have been trying to tell you that for almost 3 years now beal.

Yes, I was an I told you so, for everyone that has. :sly: ;) :D.

We all love you beal, and you're the nicest SNAIL ever, but, you can be amazingly stubborn. I really hope your issues with GT clear up for the most part. There will still be problems that are network related, but you've done what you can to make sure your equipment is as strong and reliable as you can make it. :cheers:

Collected my Birthday car today...... Am I one lucky b:censored:d or what!!

Since I think we were born the same year, I suppose I can expect that car when I log in on or after my birthday later this year. Don't know whether to be happy to know or sad it's a Ford. EG :sly:
 
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Monday Night Pack Racing


Yes I know....the thread is late..that is because the co- hosts (Vertigo and Nail) want it to be as close to perfect as possible.

Final preseason test will be Monday Night at @ 9:45. There will be two rooms ...Room 1 will be the Alien Room (Divisions 1-5) and Room 2 (Divisions 5-8). We are going to have a full race night with dry runs on hosting, score keeping, and replay uploads. The night format will be 2 Races for the Miata of 25 Minutes each, followed by a 40 minute enduro for the Miata Touring Car.

We currently have 23 (soon to be 24 as @GTP_Patrick1 is in the process of registering as we speak) registered drivers....we will accept a total of 36.. After which we will take Reserves.

If possible would all Registered drivers ( and anyone else who is up for a night of awesome racing) plan to be in the appropriate room ASAP after opening. Room 1 Host will be @GTP_Vertigo and Room 2 host will be @joe_diben .

Cheers and Check 6
 
Monday Night Pack Racing


Yes I know....the thread is late..that is because the co- hosts (Vertigo and Nail) want it to be as close to perfect as possible.

Final preseason test will be Monday Night at @ 9:45. There will be two rooms ...Room 1 will be the Alien Room (Divisions 1-5) and Room 2 (Divisions 5-8). We are going to have a full race night with dry runs on hosting, score keeping, and replay uploads. The night format will be 2 Races for the Miata of 25 Minutes each, followed by a 40 minute enduro for the Miata Touring Car.

We currently have 23 (soon to be 24 as @GTP_Patrick1 is in the process of registering as we speak) registered drivers....we will accept a total of 36.. After which we will take Reserves.

If possible would all Registered drivers ( and anyone else who is up for a night of awesome racing) plan to be in the appropriate room ASAP after opening. Room 1 Host will be @GTP_Vertigo and Room 2 host will be @joe_diben .

Cheers and Check 6
36 or 32? 16x2 is 32..
 
It's clearly stated. From the ORL:

15: Track Boundaries:

A:

Colliding with or using walls, fences, cones, brake markers or any other obstacle that is outside the track surface is forbidden, whether time is gained or not.
As zero mentioned earlier, this would be an example of what I consider a re-think and rewritten OLR.
Why penalize a driver further when they lose positions or are gained upon by other drivers, after hitting a wall or obstacle.?

Penalize a driver for driving OB where momentum/speed is maintained or gained.
 
As zero mentioned earlier, this would be an example of what I consider a re-think and rewritten OLR.
Why penalize a driver further when they lose positions or are gained upon by other drivers, after hitting a wall or obstacle.?

Penalize a driver for driving OB where momentum/speed is maintained or gained.
I got this.

The rule cited as needing changing was put in place to address what the rest of Section 15 does not, but is addressed in what I think is an often overlooked or forgotten rule, taking for granted that everyone has read the SNAIL OLR. Those two rules have been in the OLR for as long as SNAIL has adopted the GTP OLR. Those two rules are as follows;

01: S.N.A.I.L. OLR General Rules:

C:

You are expected to compete in a fair and honest manner. Fair and honest means according to the S.N.A.I.L. online racing rules, not according to your own interpretation of fair and honest.
D:
You are expected to drive responsibly in a way that’s not likely to ruin the racing enjoyment of your fellow drivers.

To re-enforce why rule 15A was put in place I will cite a not so hypothetical situation.

Driver A is in front of Driver B by whatever margin. For the sake of argument, will call it 3 seconds. Driver A uses specific objects outside the defined track surface to decide braking and turn in points. Driver B on the other hand, does not. After driver A passes one of these points, Driver B, all the while maintaining strict adherence to the rest of Track Boundary rules, knocks down those brake or turn in markers driver A uses, neither gaining or losing time that lap. Driver A continues on his lap keeping an eye on the splits, if he or she is in first place, gets back to that place and that marker they just used a lap earlier is no longer there. Driver A blows the brake or turn in point, trying to adjust, slides off in to the sand or grass, or just keeping his, or her, car on the track, and Driver B, who was 3 seconds back is now, if not passing driver A, made up that 3 seconds. It doesn't even matter if driver B knows driver A uses those markers for reference points, it matters that he exploited the OOB rules and gained that 3 seconds or more on the driver ahead. Rule 15A closes that exploit.

Don't try to tell me it hasn't happened in exactly this way. I've watched it happen, both in races I've been in and in many replays I've watched. The stewards hashed this particular rule out the last time the OLR was modified, which was last January. All of those rules in that post have been there for at least 9 months and the majority of it has been there for much longer.

So far as I'm concerned, that rule has a valid reason for being there and I will always vote in its favor of staying, exactly as written.
 
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