I'm finding the whole GT4 experience a bit too much been there, done that, seen it all before. It's a fantastic gam but I'm fast losing the desire to play it. I'm only just over 25% and I got it on the day it came out. I've driven a lot of the cars I want to drive in the game. I feel too many of the cars seem obsolete, I do enjoy driving the cars stock, and unlike GT3 there doesn't seem to be a varied series, barring the manufacturer races ofcourse. For example I raced my stock Carlton in the FR cup today and I hammered the AI, it was only a 10 point race after all. Barring the spot races where do race a stock Carlton competitivly? I'm finding this is the problem with too many of the cars I was looking forward to using. For example in GT3 you had 3 levels of the FR cup, slower cars, faster cars and faster cars still, theres only one level of that cup in GT4 and the fastest car I've seen in it is the 300C which can't keep up with a decent FR car. Anyone else feel the same way?